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| 10:53:49 From Stan Pokras to Host and Panelists:
| | 00:05:49 diana: André!! HR Day 707 29 May 2023 Urgent Call to Mothers & Grandmothers: War Stops Now. (and Daughters!!) |
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| Dzvenyslava Novakivska Joined us in the AfterChat yesterday and was both heartwarming and sad. | | 00:07:16 diana: You can find it on YouTube. Or Stan's Collection of HR |
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| 10:54:20 From Kateryna Yasko to Host and Panelists:
| | 00:07:51 Dr.Barbara Leger: our work in Ukraine is planting today for our lives and nation tomorrow - curriculum is partially based on non violent communication and values based living in public school curriculum called The Understanding PEACE Project and seeding a new mindset with freedom, responsibility, creativity and over 100 words that are stepping stones of peace and possibility by both seeing the importance of planting what you want to live with and support. so power of conscious choice, acknowledging the opposites and choice what feels more constructive and then support to learn how to cultivate a heart at peace and possibility and find new ways to settle our differences and relieve us of automatic judgment and blame and encourage self-awareness, curiosity, respect and the power of conscious breathing instead of reacting. |
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| yes, she is a good friend of ours | | 00:08:56 Stanley Pokras: This is the AfterChat for Day 744 |
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| 10:56:41 From Kateryna Yasko to Host and Panelists:
| | 00:15:07 Leo Jacoby: <nowiki>https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/779095.Abolishing_War</nowiki> (Abolishing War: Dialogue with Peace Scholars Elise Boulding and Randall Forsberg 1998) |
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| she will hopefully join today as well | | 00:17:44 Leo Jacoby: <nowiki>https://archive.org/details/abolishingwarcul0000boul</nowiki> (borrow: Abolishing war : cultures and institutions by Boulding, Elise 1998) |
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| 11:06:27 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
| | 00:19:32 Andre Sheldon: Andre@GlobalStrategyofNonviolence.org |
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| Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising! | | Please ask me about Beatrice Fihn. I believe she is the most Powerful Peace Activist in the World! |
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| 11:08:39 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
| | 00:22:08 Leo Jacoby: > <nowiki>https://watchlist.org/wp-content/uploads/20200420-watchlist-press-release-credible-list-report-final.pdf</nowiki> (UN: Name and Shame All Parties that Violate Children’s Rights) |
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| So wonderful to see you again Kateryna!🌹🌻🌹 | | 00:22:58 Leo Jacoby: Beatrice Fihn is a Swedish lawyer. She was the Executive Director of the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons from 2014 to 1 February 2023. Wikipedia |
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| 11:11:41 From Yuliya Shtaltovna to Everyone:
| | 00:23:40 Kat Haber: I am a great grandmother. YEs, bring in the wisdom of the elder women who have brought life into life. |
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| What a great intro! Greetings to you all | | 00:25:05 Leo Jacoby: <nowiki>https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/</nowiki> (The 2022 Nobel Peace Prize is awarded to human rights advocate Ales Bialiatski from Belarus, the Russian human rights organisation Memorial and the Ukrainian human rights organisation Center for Civil Liberties. They document war crimes, human rights abuses and the abuse of power.) |
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| 11:12:01 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
| | 00:25:46 Kat Haber: COLLABORATION is a muscle that shemanity can offer our communities. |
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| Today is Day 744 of Humanity Rising, thank you for joining us. | | 00:28:28 Leo Jacoby: > <nowiki>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAvQTgP7kZ8</nowiki> (58:58 Nobel Peace Prize Winner: Beatrice Fihn | Full Q&A | Oxford Union) |
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| 11:12:26 From Charles Betterton to Everyone:
| | 00:28:52 Kat Haber: Peace & Climate movements have been happening for decades behind the scenes. Neither of these generate $. In capitalistic global economy, it is difficult to get the attention of those struggling to survive. |
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| great to see you with us today dear Katya - thank you for taking this challenge and opportunity for us all to better understand the reality in Ukraine | | 00:32:54 Leo Jacoby: Links file for today |
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| 11:13:22 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
| | 00:32:58 Kat Haber: Good questions! |
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| Welcome Kateryna. Thank you for joining us in the AfterChat on Monday, and for bringing Valerii. I treasure the opportunity to see a bit into the minds of the people of the Ukraine. | | 00:35:28 Dr.Barbara Leger: it won't change until we engage with it all - i.e. see it is possible for the government/media or whoever we see as the blocks-to be part of the solution. if we engage in it in all the phases of democracy - if we feel it is too late it is.... I plant non violent seeds of peace working in public school with sharing the humanistic values and using their opposites to feel and sense where we want to live. |
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| 11:13:31 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
| | 00:38:13 kathryn davison: BTW I drive a gasoline-powered car still, so — fully cognizant of my ‘participant observer’ part in this collective dilemma. |
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| With Love... | | 00:39:07 Kat Haber: Multitudes of perspectives-many chaotic, insane, traumatized… |
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| Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session. | | 00:39:22 Kat Haber: I am quite aware. |
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| You can join the After Chat here: | | 00:44:02 diana: Kathryn : "BTW I drive a gasoline-powered car still, so — fully cognizant of my ‘participant observer’ part in this collective dilemma." 👍 This whole Thing with electricity :-( :-( :-( |
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| | 00:44:15 Kat Haber: Good things are underway…& we are distracted by war at a moment we need to be focused working together to address the Xistential threat of climate that is right now blinking out half of the world’s species. We are part of that circle… |
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| Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451 | | 00:46:34 Paul Flansburg: Is he saying “let Russia lose” by giving ukraine weapons? |
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| Passcode: 919541 | | 00:48:18 kathryn davison: Really good point, Barbara, and I see now that sometimes I get ‘exercised’ about these things b/c I never had a forum to simply say that and ask the question, ‘why?’ |
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| ..oOo.. | | 00:48:23 Paul Flansburg: China seems closest to producing what does not destroy, yes? I mean, between super powers? |
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| 11:20:58 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
| | 00:51:03 Kat Haber: @Paul I’ve just spent last week with a few Chinese at high levels in policy and business. I am looking more deeply into a broader overview…beyond the us/them mindset. |
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| Russia’s backward, but Ukraine isn’t? | | 00:53:15 Paul Flansburg: I asked sincerely before. What do people disagree with regarding what I’ve been saying in comments? |
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| 11:21:43 From Kateryna Yasko to Everyone:
| | 00:54:38 Dr.Barbara Leger: great handout Kat |
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| Paul, Auke’s Monday presentation addressed exactly that question | | 00:55:41 Paul Flansburg: Right @Stanley Pokras, movements can command press coverage. The thing is press disallows movements when they begin. |
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| 11:22:07 From Auke van Nimwegen to Everyone:
| | 00:57:02 diana: Paul, in Terms of your comments being taken negatively, I think it's the attitude of "only two sides". Antagonism. Taking comments defensively and not as Points of discussion |
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| @Paul, not backward but looking to the past. Russia has stronger purple/red values, less blue/orange/green compared to Ukraine | | 00:57:55 Dr.Barbara Leger: Paul 0 do you know Charles Betterton - he is working with this biggest view of possibility with China |
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| 11:23:03 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
| | 01:00:19 Paul Flansburg: Diana, Gorbachev was upheld by Sachs. His influence, didn’t he allow perestroika to progress? Our speaker seemed more critical. |
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| different level of cultural development | | 01:00:23 Dr.Barbara Leger: And I call New Dimensions The Library of Consciousness www.newdimensions.org |
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| 11:23:18 From Paul Flansburg to Host and Panelists:
| | 01:02:17 Paul Flansburg: “Creativity” vs propaganda. We have to identify propaganda, don’t we? Someone was advocating for this, yes? |
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| Now China’s bad too? | | 01:04:53 Paul Flansburg: In Peru, during liberation theology fight, there was an effort to fight the “non-person” identity with the identity as one from a collective. I recall his from a maryknoll priest, anyway. |
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| 11:23:46 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
| | 01:06:18 kathryn davison: Replying to "In Peru, during libe..." |
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| 11:23:55 From Auke van Nimwegen to Everyone:
| | 01:09:08 Paul Flansburg: I gotta go soon |
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| @Paul, it is not about bad or good, it is about what values drives them | | 01:09:23 Dr.Barbara Leger: bye paul |
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| 11:24:38 From Charles Betterton to Everyone:
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| different history and motivation and culture and purpose felt | | 01:09:51 Dr.Barbara Leger: barbara@goldenpathofpeace.org |
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| 11:27:44 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
| | 01:12:04 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: Meet Us in #TheGathering . An Open Arms Convergence Room for "The 99 Days of Peace Through Unity" . Home of the Heal the Earth Initiative, we gather every Wednesday and Thursday at 2:oo to 4:oo pm CDT. The topic this week is … "The Lighting of the Beacons" . Establishing a Digital Smoke Signal Network. |
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| Then vs now. USA involvement is essential to consider
| | The Gathering Convergence Room . <nowiki>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89641414392</nowiki> |
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| 11:27:59 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
| | 01:12:12 Kat Haber: Thanks everyone! Be happy. |
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| not about polarities; just different levels of development under concept of Spiral Dynamics | | 01:15:11 Dr.Barbara Leger: stan I have a diagram to share with you today on creativity - can you let me share screen |
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| 11:29:06 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
| | 01:20:25 diana: Apologies - have to take care of something.before the "shop" Closes. |
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| Now it’s Gorbachev’s fault? | | 01:23:35 Leo Jacoby: Shawnda, do you have a link for Earth Mother Network? |
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| 11:29:47 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
| | 01:24:11 Dr.Barbara Leger: i must leave and thank you so much everyone |
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| USA is also currently headed "backward" -- in terms of cultural development | | 01:28:31 Leo Jacoby: <nowiki>https://www.facebook.com/SoulStoryProductions</nowiki> |
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| 11:30:12 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
| | 01:32:55 Leo Jacoby: Shawnda, Which link? <nowiki>https://nihcoa.com/</nowiki> OR <nowiki>https://nationalihc.org/</nowiki> OR ??? |
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| Deep Listening matters! The "blame game" paradigm is NOT USEFUL. Clearly, this presentation IS WAY beyond that notion. | | 01:33:50 Leo Jacoby: Not related to Shawnda?: |
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| 11:31:03 From Charles Betterton to Everyone:
| | <nowiki>https://www.earthmothercommunity.org/</nowiki> |
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| this is what we must understand in US both for Russian' aggression in Ukr and for home issues in USA
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| 11:31:12 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:
| | <nowiki>https://www.facebook.com/groups/earthmotherstudio/posts/1335878803596004/</nowiki> |
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| But we also need to listen to Ukrainians. | | 01:34:24 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: TexasIHC.com EarthMotherStudio.org |
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| 11:31:32 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
| | 01:35:23 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: Shawnda Clawson . Earth Mother Network . TexasIHC@gmail.com . 806-782-7862 |
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| DEEP listening is always required! | | 01:37:10 Leo Jacoby: <nowiki>https://texasihc.com/</nowiki> |
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| 11:31:53 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
| | 01:37:53 Leo Jacoby: <nowiki>https://earthmotherstudio.org/</nowiki> |
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| So he’s not saying Gorbachev was fundamental to decline of Russia? | | 01:39:26 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: EarthMother@Live.com |
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| 11:31:59 From Yuliya Shtaltovna to Everyone:
| | 01:39:45 Carol Sue Engleman Facebook Sarah Sue in Belize: Carol Sue Engleman on Facebook 760-437-5299 |
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| <nowiki>https://sustainablepeacemanifesto.org/</nowiki> | | 01:42:11 Carol Sue Engleman Facebook Sarah Sue in Belize: +501-614-6889 WhatsApp |
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| 11:32:47 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
| | 01:42:44 Bob Hayes: Shawnda, |
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| Excellent presentation, THANK YOU!
| | Is kenaf related to okra family botanically? |
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| 11:34:50 From Charles Betterton to Everyone:
| | 01:44:35 Bob Hayes: Kenaf - Wikipedia |
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| | Kenaf [etymology: Persian], [2] Hibiscus cannabinus, is a plant in the family Malvaceae also called Deccan hemp and Java jute. Hibiscus cannabinus is in the genus Hibiscus and is native to Africa, though its exact origin is unknown. [1] The name also applies to the fibre obtained from this plant. |
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| 11:35:26 From Charles Betterton to Everyone:
| | 01:44:59 Bob Hayes: Kenaf |
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| | Kenaf [etymology: Persian], Hibiscus cannabinus, is a plant in the family Malvaceae also called Deccan hemp and Java jute. Hibiscus cannabinus is in the genus Hibiscus and is native to Africa, though its exact origin is unknown. The name also applies to the fibre obtained from this plant. Kenaf is one of the allied fibres of jute and shows similar characteristics |
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| 11:40:00 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
| | 01:45:55 Bob Hayes: <nowiki>https://www.uky.edu</nowiki> › ccd › production › crop-resources › GFFOF › kenaf |
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| US prisons are 20% (more?) of global population.
| | Kenaf | Center for Crop Diversification - University of Kentucky |
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| 11:40:28 From Valerii Pekar to Host and Panelists:
| | Kenaf (Hibiscus cannabinus) is a warm-season annual row crop in the same plant family as okra and cotton (Malvaceae). Kenaf plants are capable of growing to a height of 20 feet under favorable conditions; however, heights generally average 8 to 14 feet in a growing season of 4 to 5 months. |
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| More details about scenarios for Russia: | | 01:48:15 Leo Jacoby: Updated links file |
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| <nowiki>https://neweasterneurope.eu/2022/12/21/scenarios-for-the-russian-federation/</nowiki> | | 01:49:28 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: <nowiki>https://www.facebook.com/michaelelley</nowiki> |
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| 11:40:43 From Elke Fein to Everyone:
| | 01:52:12 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: <nowiki>https://www.facebook.com/ShawndaClawson/</nowiki> |
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| Hi Auke, great that you bring this perspective in. Much needed corrective! :-) | | 01:56:24 Leo Jacoby: Added Shawnda's Facebook links |
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| 11:41:05 From Valerii Pekar to Host and Panelists:
| | 01:59:48 Leo Jacoby: <nowiki>https://www.spiritualityandpractice.com/explorations/teachers/view/156/jose-hobday</nowiki> (Born in Texas to a Seneca-Iroquois mother and a Southern Baptist father, Sister Jose Hobday was a Seneca elder and a Sister of the Franciscan Order. Died April 5, 2009, at age 80) |
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| More details about Russian colonialism: | | 02:03:00 Leo Jacoby: <nowiki>https://dailymeditationswithmatthewfox.org/2020/07/03/speaking-of-simpler-lifetyles-wisdom-from-sr-jose-hobday/</nowiki> |
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| <nowiki>https://neweasterneurope.eu/2022/09/07/the-deconstruction-of-russia-and-reconstruction-of-a-post-russia-space-a-risky-but-inevitable-scenario/</nowiki> | | 02:05:34 Leo Jacoby: > <nowiki>https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/road-peace/simple-life-jose-hobday</nowiki> (by John Dear May 19, 2009) |
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| 11:43:21 From Mark Babson to Everyone:
| | 02:06:40 Leo Jacoby: > <nowiki>https://grateful.org/resource/a-beggars-gift/</nowiki> (by Jose Hobday) |
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| 'We' apparently means people in the West? | | 02:08:07 Leo Jacoby: Shawnda, did you send links just now "to everyone"? |
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| 11:44:17 From Mark Babson to Everyone:
| | 02:09:34 Leo Jacoby: > <nowiki>https://texasihc.com/</nowiki> (Welcome to The National Industrial Hemp Coalition) |
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| It's time for the West to give up its illusion of superiority and learn from traditional societies | | 02:10:06 Leo Jacoby: > <nowiki>https://earthmotherstudio.org/</nowiki> (Permaculture is an Ethically Based Whole-System Design Approach that Uses Concepts, Principles and Methods Derived from Eco-Systems, Indigenous Peoples and Time Tested Practices) |
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| 11:44:18 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone: | | 02:11:33 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: Meet Us in #TheGathering . An Open Arms Convergence Room for "The 99 Days of Peace Through Unity" . Home of the Heal the Earth Initiative, we gather every Wednesday and Thursday at 2:oo to 4:oo pm CDT. The topic this week is … "The Lighting of the Beacons" . Establishing a Digital Smoke Signal Network. |
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| So much that I cannot accept , but that is Life. Our guys are good guys the other is rotten evil, no point talking, just carry on the fight...….
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| 11:44:55 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
| | 02:13:21 Bob Hayes: So long folks! |
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| 11:44:59 From Elke Fein to Everyone:
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| Do you think Russia is a traditional society?
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| 11:45:10 From Mark Weinstein to Everyone:
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| The United States has 800 military bases around the world. This fact is a worthy subject for research, inquiry, reflection.
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| 11:46:26 From Richard Page to Everyone:
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| Journalists with divergent views in the West are not jailed, but silenced through the Google algorithm and outright removal of YouTube interviews as happened to Chris Hedges. RY today was shut down
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| 11:46:55 From Richard Page to Everyone:
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| RT today was taken off the air in the USA
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| 11:47:26 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
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| 11:47:45 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:
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| Important discussion today for insights of the existential global crisis.
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| 11:48:07 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
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| 11:48:25 From Mark Babson to Everyone:
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| 11:48:45 From Mark Babson to Everyone:
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| 11:48:49 From Valerii Pekar to Everyone:
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| We Ukrainians are in a permanent dialogue with Russians wanting democracy as well as with Tatar, Bashkir, Buryat, Kalmyk, Yakut, Chechen and two dozens of other peoples wanting freedom. But it's hard to imagine a dialogue with imperial chauvinists wanting to kill as much Ukrainians as possible.
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| 11:49:04 From Charles Betterton to Everyone:
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| 11:50:05 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
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| I was distracted by a phone call. Can we hear for like minded people in Russia? I mean, there were people in Nazi Germany who opposed Hitler. Are those who oppose this aggression free to speak?
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| 11:51:35 From Valerii Pekar to Everyone:
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| Yes, there are some but they had to left the country. Treating opposition in modern Russia is rather like Stalin than Hitler
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| 11:52:44 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
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| 11:54:23 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
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| Many excellent points made, Auke! Thank you!
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| 11:54:25 From Charles Betterton to Everyone:
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| exactly Auke self defense for a culture and nation and future possibility and for our own learning
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| 11:54:34 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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| Thank you so much for coming to speak to us, all of you. It is present in my mind that anything can happen at any time. I see you beautiful thoughtful intelligent people, and know you are at greater risk than I… than us. I honour the risks that you take, and the path you walk.
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| 11:57:12 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
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| Founding MOTHER! Thank you Olga for your courageous dissidence, and for being here!
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| Message for Stan. Very sorry I wont be able to join the After Chat today. Please greet the Participants for me. Blessings and Love
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| 12:02:01 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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| Hyacinth, you will be missed. And I know that all agree with you that Peace is the only acceptable outcome of the conflict that is ongoing.
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| > <nowiki>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gII6JEuwLq0</nowiki> (6:08 Gangaji: Let the whole world break your heart. "It's usual that people seek to avoid a broken heart, and live in broken-heartedness. When you allow the heart to be broken over and over, there is living in love. Let the whole world break your heart.")
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| > <nowiki>https://www.youtube.com/@Gangaji-Video</nowiki> (YouTube channel 249 videos)
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| 12:04:17 From Auke van Nimwegen to Everyone:
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| @Leo, thx
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| 12:06:12 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
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| Lukashenko?
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| 12:07:02 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
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| > <nowiki>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyL5cSwv9og</nowiki> (10:00 Embracing the brokenness of the world, with Eli Jaxon-Bear And Gangaji - Futureseeds Ep.8)
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| 12:08:46 From Charles Betterton to Everyone:
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| yes Leo thanks - a great healing process is possible individually and some of my friends in Russia are totally heart broken, afraid and hope for humanity to rise in consciousness and compassion and somehow tip the scales
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| 12:09:07 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
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| Hello Tom,
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| Namaste! MIR!
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| Valerii said we need to create a sustainable peace! I humbly submit that Gandhi and King lived and died to teach us nonviolence is the answer and therefore propose a Global Movement of Nonviolence ( a people movement – an EMERGENCY PLAN) to stop the war in Ukraine and establish trust and respect among nations and people. The world needs it now!
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| The plan is ready now and would be led by WOMEN, the best representatives of nonviolence possible! According to deceased U.S historian and peace activist Howard Zinn, “no doubt women represent nonviolence best!” This is designed to be different!
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| As Kateryna stated, to resolve the crisis, the intricacies are complex, but there is simplicity in setting the movement in motion. The world must unite under one umbrella.
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| 12:09:21 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
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| The plan is one last step away from beginning. Would anyone on the panel support it and help to set the last step in motion? There are many segments of the plan. Please ask me about U.N. Sec-General Guterres.
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| Andre@GlobalStrategyofNonviolence.org
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| 12:09:37 From Elke Fein to Everyone:
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| The "taking two sides" comment is coming from a good intention, but lacking a differentiated understanding of the actual qualitative differences between these two sides, their situation and their action logics...
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| 12:15:19 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
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| Women must take the World Stage!
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| 12:15:22 From Valerii Pekar to Everyone:
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| The non-violence approach is practiced now by colonized peoples of Russia, especially the Buddhist ones (Buryats, Kalmyks, etc.). They are now practically being genocided by Putin regime. There is a risk that these peoples will cease to exist.
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| 12:16:49 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
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| Send me a link about violence against Buddhists?
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| 12:17:39 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
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| In Iran, the women protested across the whole country. For women to rise up in Russia and Ukraine, they must see the whole world is participating and supportive! Please ask me about the marketing plan that is designed to capture and KEEP the attention of the media!
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| Andre@GlobalStrategyofNonviolence.org
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| 12:18:26 From Auke van Nimwegen to Everyone:
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| @Paul, one way these minorities are being killed is by sending them to the war.
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| 12:18:30 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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| Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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| You can join the After Chat here:
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| ::::::::<nowiki>https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09</nowiki>::::::::
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| Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
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| Passcode: 919541
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| ..oOo..
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| 12:18:56 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
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| Olga, and everyone: You would be a great addition to the Peacemakers Circles. Please accept this gift of membership in the PeaceMakers Circles/Network. PeaceMakers do it in Everything. BEING THE BEST ANCESTOR to 7 Generations ahead.
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| We are thrilled that after 50 years of working globally with success techniques and leadership skills to have an opportunity to build the PeaceMakers Circle/Network. We already have people in Africa, Asia, Europe, and N. America. We are, for the first time, bringing ancient wisdom together with the best leaders and the best tools of the 21st century.
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| Register now so we can do it even faster with the PeaceMaker MasterHeart Circles ~ to be all you can be in bringing Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace: <nowiki>https://noblegoldman.com/fun/intentional-change-network/kurtkrueger</nowiki>. ONCE REGISTERED you will receive an email with all the links to the PeaceMakers Circles, so that WE participate in creating Peace.
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| 12:19:10 From Auke van Nimwegen to Everyone:
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| <nowiki>https://www.aljazeera.com/features/2022/10/25/russia-putin-is-using-ethnic-minorities-to-fight-in-ukraine</nowiki>
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| 12:20:03 From Valerii Pekar to Everyone:
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| @Paul,
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| This is a story of Stalin time:
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| <nowiki>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deportation_of_the_Kalmyks</nowiki>
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| There are no publications on current events as far as Western media don't like to discuss colonized peoples of Russia.
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| 12:20:21 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
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| Peace builders we’re not hearing? Are some who “promote peace” dominating? If so, who are dominating?
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| 12:20:58 From Auke van Nimwegen to Everyone:
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| @Paul in Russia you go to jail if you speak against Putin or call for peace
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| 12:21:15 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
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| What if playing a simple game with 5 to 8 people in your community (or perhaps even online) could lead to greater individual, community, and global peace?
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| And what if playing that game would also generate meaningful individual and collective benefits as a result of the specific ACTIONS participants take during the 7 activities as John Perkins so frequently encourages?
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| If you would like to help bring peace, harmony, and unity to your community, please attend the July 19th information session to learn more about the Peace on Earth by 2030 Game <nowiki>https://peace2030.earth/</nowiki>
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| 12:21:23 From Valerii Pekar to Everyone:
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| Genocide includes not only murder but also ban on identity, language and culture, artificial change of identity
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| 12:23:07 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
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| We are on a planetary mission for Peace on Earth by 2030. We're inviting all social change Jedis who want to create peace and harmony in their communities and on earth, and heal the divides that separate us to join us. | |
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| Please visit the website to learn more <nowiki>https://peace2030.earth/</nowiki>
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| 12:23:19 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
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| The whole world is waiting for something good to happen. If women promote nonviolence and promote working together for humanity, it will change the world!
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| Martin Luther King wrote, “Nonviolence is the answer to the crucial political and moral questions of our time; the need for mankind to overcome oppression and violence without resorting to oppression and violence. Mankind must evolve for all human conflict a method which rejects revenge, aggression, and retaliation.
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| The Power is from Nonviolence and Women together - everywhere.
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| If women do not rise-up, there will be no change.
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| 12:23:27 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
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| Kind of off topic, but US will gift cluster bombs. A good gift? What about depleted uranium?
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| 12:25:03 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
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| I think I understand something. We missed our chance to support peace uprising in Belarus, yes?
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| 12:25:20 From Auke van Nimwegen to Everyone:
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| @Paul yes!
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| 12:26:44 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
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| q André - are you coming to the AfterChat?
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| 12:26:44 From Kateryna Yasko to Everyone:
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| Paul, yes!
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| 12:28:55 From Mark Babson to Everyone:
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| the world did not allow the people of Africa, Asia, and the Americas to be free
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| They claimed their freedom
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| 12:29:46 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
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| Valeri’s point about genocide. This was behind the iron curtain in the late 80’s too?
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| 12:30:27 From Valerii Pekar to Everyone:
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| As well as right now
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| 12:30:59 From Olga Karatch to Host and Panelists:
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| @Paul, you are right, especially about depleted uranium. But my opinion the strategy must be developed including the support men who doesn not want to go to the army. About Belarus. Yes, but not to bring peace but it was no support of peacebuilding activities. It is true
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| 12:31:18 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
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| During (I can’t spell) peristroyka?
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| 12:31:33 From Elke Fein to Everyone:
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| Partly due to widespread western ignorance about Eastern European and Eurasian societes, partly also due to the assumption that it is impossible to interfere with Russia's "zone of influence" without provoking the bear....
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| 12:31:37 From Elke Fein to Everyone:
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| Perestrojka
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| 12:31:41 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
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| Diana, I can join for a short time. I'm preparing for a big meeting tomorrow morning. Thx
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| 12:31:42 From Valerii Pekar to Everyone:
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| @Paul
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| No, earlier, during Brezhnev time
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| 12:33:30 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
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| @Val. We could have supported perestrojka, but we didn’t?
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| 12:33:37 From Olga Karatch to Everyone:
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| @Paul, you are right, especially about depleted uranium. But my opinion the strategy must be developed including the support men who doesn not want to go to the army. About Belarus. Yes, but not to bring peace but it was no support of peacebuilding activities. It is true
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| 12:34:46 From Linda to Everyone:
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| Olga and Kateryna- can you share your emails with us?
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| 12:34:59 From Kateryna Yasko to Everyone:
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| kateryna@uintegral.com
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| 12:35:06 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
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| A special strategy is prepared to create a Cease-Fire in Ukraine. Please ask about Sec-General's call for a Global Cease-Fire.
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| 12:35:09 From Valerii Pekar to Everyone:
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| @Paul
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| The West supported perestroika (renovation) and especially glasnost (freedom of speech) but didn't support national aspiration of Ukrainians, Estonians and so on for freedom
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| 12:35:17 From Olga Karatch to Everyone:
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| info@nash-dom.info
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| 12:35:30 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
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| PLEASE COME TO THE AFTERCHAT. I can only stat until 15 minutes to the hour. 🙂 Or connect with todays PeaceMakers Circle. We are unifying incredible diverse people’s to bring Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace.
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| 12:35:33 From Jøran Solberg to Everyone:
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| I don't think we should be optimistic about the values underpinning the US military. Look at what their think tanks are talking about. They see the mind as the battlefield.
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| 12:36:07 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
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| Excellent points, Auke.
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| 12:36:31 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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| It is important that the fact that we are watching this program is shared among more people on all sides… All too often the lack of debate, the silence, is all that people know.
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| 12:36:35 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
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| Thanks for your life’s work for a thriving life for all. Together in collaboration, coagulation, and dialogue, we get to prompt the world back into thriving for ALL our relations.
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| Kurt Krueger, AnotherU, PeaceMakersCircles at gmail.com
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| See how we can bring Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace even faster with the PeaceMaker Master Heart Circles while being all we can be to : <nowiki>https://noblegoldman.com/fun/intentional-change-network/kurtkrueger</nowiki>
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| Founding Member of Peace Lab: www.OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab
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| The World Fest, www.theWorldFestOrganization.org for FUN cultural transformation
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| 12:37:59 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
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| Is there support for Ukrainian men who do not want to fight?
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| 12:38:19 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
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| WOMEN have the power… read Aristophanes’ play, Lysistrata. 🙂
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| 12:38:35 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
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| Same Thing for Russian men who do not want to fight
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| 12:38:45 From Charles Betterton to Everyone:
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| we need listening circles for how to be ..i.e. only for peace when another country has one aim which is to destroy the culture and the country or could peace hold self defense or is letting someone destroy us a peaceful thing??? and how .there is a great term in Ukraine for a moment of cardinal change - a turning point - and do the best in this moment - and this is the moment
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| 12:38:53 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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| It’s sad to see that the “peace movement” is not active. One way to revive a movement for peace is to reinstitute the draft. That would get the attention of young people.
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| 12:39:05 From Valerii Pekar to Everyone:
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| The 3rd week of July (which is now) is a regular Captive Nations Week for many years. You can see demonstrations of colonized nations of Russia in New York and some other cities.
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| 12:39:41 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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| Not to say that I want to reinstitute the draft. But understanding the psychology is important.
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| 12:39:56 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
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| Kateryna, <nowiki>http://uintegral.com/</nowiki> yields message: "Subscription ended! Payment due"
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| 12:40:07 From Auke van Nimwegen to Everyone:
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| @Paul Ukrainian men have to stay in the country but don’t have to fight in the front line if they don’t want to
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| 12:40:19 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
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| Stan, you are meaning in countries like the US, Canada, Australia, Britain???
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| 12:40:19 From Paul Flansburg to Host and Panelists:
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| Oh, so Belarus men are picked to fight for Russia
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| 12:40:44 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
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| military recruiters in US are short on recruits -- due to physical as well as mental health of today's youth
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| 12:41:53 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
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| View this video to ZOOM Peace when you meet or greet someone. It is called the Peace Salute, <nowiki>https://youtu.be/iLqxBwH9Plk</nowiki>
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| 12:42:05 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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| Diana, I only know how people in the U.S. feel. Here there is nothing motivating young people to examine their opinions on peace or war. It’s just an invisible issue.
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| 12:42:52 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
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| Correct, Stan - as in those other countries, I mentioned. Germany, too
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| 12:43:02 From Olga Karatch to Everyone:
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| @Paul, yes. But I am for the right of any man doesn't go to the army
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| 12:43:29 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
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| Yes thank you for these sessions, the information and perspectives. Appreciate each of you and the other panelists, too. In Gratitude!
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| 12:43:30 From Linda to Everyone:
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| Perhaps we can send ongoing messages of encouragement and support to Olga and the others who have been courageous enough to speak to us during these 3 days.
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| 12:43:49 From Charles Betterton to Everyone:
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| yes linda
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| 12:44:17 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
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| QUESTION
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| Namaste! MIR!
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| Valerii said we need to create a sustainable peace! I humbly submit that Gandhi and King lived and died to teach us nonviolence is the answer and therefore propose a Global Movement of Nonviolence ( a people movement – an EMERGENCY PLAN) to stop the war in Ukraine and establish trust and respect among nations and people. The world needs it now!
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| The world must unite under one umbrella -- NONVIOLENCE.
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| The plan is one last step away from beginning. Would anyone on the panel support it and help to set the last step in motion? There are many segments of the plan. Please ask me about U.N. Sec-General Guterres.
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| Thank you.
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| Andre@GlobalStrategyofNonviolence.org
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| 12:44:47 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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| The idea that we must have “peace” at any cost in human lives makes little sense to me.
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| 12:45:00 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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| 12:45:11 From Valerii Pekar to Everyone:
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| Thank you for your attention
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Humanity Rising Day 744 After Chat – Wednesday July 19, 2023
Chat from AfterChat Zoom from HR Day 744:
aka ChatPeople Chat
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00:05:49 diana: André!! HR Day 707 29 May 2023 Urgent Call to Mothers & Grandmothers: War Stops Now. (and Daughters!!)
00:07:16 diana: You can find it on YouTube. Or Stan's Collection of HR
00:07:51 Dr.Barbara Leger: our work in Ukraine is planting today for our lives and nation tomorrow - curriculum is partially based on non violent communication and values based living in public school curriculum called The Understanding PEACE Project and seeding a new mindset with freedom, responsibility, creativity and over 100 words that are stepping stones of peace and possibility by both seeing the importance of planting what you want to live with and support. so power of conscious choice, acknowledging the opposites and choice what feels more constructive and then support to learn how to cultivate a heart at peace and possibility and find new ways to settle our differences and relieve us of automatic judgment and blame and encourage self-awareness, curiosity, respect and the power of conscious breathing instead of reacting.
00:08:56 Stanley Pokras: This is the AfterChat for Day 744
00:15:07 Leo Jacoby: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/779095.Abolishing_War (Abolishing War: Dialogue with Peace Scholars Elise Boulding and Randall Forsberg 1998)
00:17:44 Leo Jacoby: https://archive.org/details/abolishingwarcul0000boul (borrow: Abolishing war : cultures and institutions by Boulding, Elise 1998)
00:19:32 Andre Sheldon: Andre@GlobalStrategyofNonviolence.org
Please ask me about Beatrice Fihn. I believe she is the most Powerful Peace Activist in the World!
00:22:08 Leo Jacoby: > https://watchlist.org/wp-content/uploads/20200420-watchlist-press-release-credible-list-report-final.pdf (UN: Name and Shame All Parties that Violate Children’s Rights)
00:22:58 Leo Jacoby: Beatrice Fihn is a Swedish lawyer. She was the Executive Director of the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons from 2014 to 1 February 2023. Wikipedia
00:23:40 Kat Haber: I am a great grandmother. YEs, bring in the wisdom of the elder women who have brought life into life.
00:25:05 Leo Jacoby: https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/ (The 2022 Nobel Peace Prize is awarded to human rights advocate Ales Bialiatski from Belarus, the Russian human rights organisation Memorial and the Ukrainian human rights organisation Center for Civil Liberties. They document war crimes, human rights abuses and the abuse of power.)
00:25:46 Kat Haber: COLLABORATION is a muscle that shemanity can offer our communities.
00:28:28 Leo Jacoby: > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAvQTgP7kZ8 (58:58 Nobel Peace Prize Winner: Beatrice Fihn | Full Q&A | Oxford Union)
00:28:52 Kat Haber: Peace & Climate movements have been happening for decades behind the scenes. Neither of these generate $. In capitalistic global economy, it is difficult to get the attention of those struggling to survive.
00:32:54 Leo Jacoby: Links file for today
00:32:58 Kat Haber: Good questions!
00:35:28 Dr.Barbara Leger: it won't change until we engage with it all - i.e. see it is possible for the government/media or whoever we see as the blocks-to be part of the solution. if we engage in it in all the phases of democracy - if we feel it is too late it is.... I plant non violent seeds of peace working in public school with sharing the humanistic values and using their opposites to feel and sense where we want to live.
00:38:13 kathryn davison: BTW I drive a gasoline-powered car still, so — fully cognizant of my ‘participant observer’ part in this collective dilemma.
00:39:07 Kat Haber: Multitudes of perspectives-many chaotic, insane, traumatized…
00:39:22 Kat Haber: I am quite aware.
00:44:02 diana: Kathryn : "BTW I drive a gasoline-powered car still, so — fully cognizant of my ‘participant observer’ part in this collective dilemma." 👍 This whole Thing with electricity :-( :-( :-(
00:44:15 Kat Haber: Good things are underway…& we are distracted by war at a moment we need to be focused working together to address the Xistential threat of climate that is right now blinking out half of the world’s species. We are part of that circle…
00:46:34 Paul Flansburg: Is he saying “let Russia lose” by giving ukraine weapons?
00:48:18 kathryn davison: Really good point, Barbara, and I see now that sometimes I get ‘exercised’ about these things b/c I never had a forum to simply say that and ask the question, ‘why?’
00:48:23 Paul Flansburg: China seems closest to producing what does not destroy, yes? I mean, between super powers?
00:51:03 Kat Haber: @Paul I’ve just spent last week with a few Chinese at high levels in policy and business. I am looking more deeply into a broader overview…beyond the us/them mindset.
00:53:15 Paul Flansburg: I asked sincerely before. What do people disagree with regarding what I’ve been saying in comments?
00:54:38 Dr.Barbara Leger: great handout Kat
00:55:41 Paul Flansburg: Right @Stanley Pokras, movements can command press coverage. The thing is press disallows movements when they begin.
00:57:02 diana: Paul, in Terms of your comments being taken negatively, I think it's the attitude of "only two sides". Antagonism. Taking comments defensively and not as Points of discussion
00:57:55 Dr.Barbara Leger: Paul 0 do you know Charles Betterton - he is working with this biggest view of possibility with China
01:00:19 Paul Flansburg: Diana, Gorbachev was upheld by Sachs. His influence, didn’t he allow perestroika to progress? Our speaker seemed more critical.
01:00:23 Dr.Barbara Leger: And I call New Dimensions The Library of Consciousness www.newdimensions.org
01:02:17 Paul Flansburg: “Creativity” vs propaganda. We have to identify propaganda, don’t we? Someone was advocating for this, yes?
01:04:53 Paul Flansburg: In Peru, during liberation theology fight, there was an effort to fight the “non-person” identity with the identity as one from a collective. I recall his from a maryknoll priest, anyway.
01:06:18 kathryn davison: Replying to "In Peru, during libe..."
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01:09:08 Paul Flansburg: I gotta go soon
01:09:23 Dr.Barbara Leger: bye paul
01:09:26 Dr.Barbara Leger: :)
01:09:51 Dr.Barbara Leger: barbara@goldenpathofpeace.org
01:12:04 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: Meet Us in #TheGathering . An Open Arms Convergence Room for "The 99 Days of Peace Through Unity" . Home of the Heal the Earth Initiative, we gather every Wednesday and Thursday at 2:oo to 4:oo pm CDT. The topic this week is … "The Lighting of the Beacons" . Establishing a Digital Smoke Signal Network.
The Gathering Convergence Room . https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89641414392
01:12:12 Kat Haber: Thanks everyone! Be happy.
01:15:11 Dr.Barbara Leger: stan I have a diagram to share with you today on creativity - can you let me share screen
01:20:25 diana: Apologies - have to take care of something.before the "shop" Closes.
01:23:35 Leo Jacoby: Shawnda, do you have a link for Earth Mother Network?
01:24:11 Dr.Barbara Leger: i must leave and thank you so much everyone
01:28:31 Leo Jacoby: https://www.facebook.com/SoulStoryProductions
01:32:55 Leo Jacoby: Shawnda, Which link? https://nihcoa.com/ OR https://nationalihc.org/ OR ???
01:33:50 Leo Jacoby: Not related to Shawnda?:
https://www.earthmothercommunity.org/
https://motherearth-network.org/
https://www.facebook.com/groups/earthmotherstudio/posts/1335878803596004/
01:34:24 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: TexasIHC.com EarthMotherStudio.org
01:35:23 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: Shawnda Clawson . Earth Mother Network . TexasIHC@gmail.com . 806-782-7862
01:37:10 Leo Jacoby: https://texasihc.com/
01:37:53 Leo Jacoby: https://earthmotherstudio.org/
01:39:26 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: EarthMother@Live.com
01:39:45 Carol Sue Engleman Facebook Sarah Sue in Belize: Carol Sue Engleman on Facebook 760-437-5299
01:42:11 Carol Sue Engleman Facebook Sarah Sue in Belize: +501-614-6889 WhatsApp
01:42:44 Bob Hayes: Shawnda,
Is kenaf related to okra family botanically?
01:44:35 Bob Hayes: Kenaf - Wikipedia
Kenaf [etymology: Persian], [2] Hibiscus cannabinus, is a plant in the family Malvaceae also called Deccan hemp and Java jute. Hibiscus cannabinus is in the genus Hibiscus and is native to Africa, though its exact origin is unknown. [1] The name also applies to the fibre obtained from this plant.
01:44:59 Bob Hayes: Kenaf
Kenaf [etymology: Persian], Hibiscus cannabinus, is a plant in the family Malvaceae also called Deccan hemp and Java jute. Hibiscus cannabinus is in the genus Hibiscus and is native to Africa, though its exact origin is unknown. The name also applies to the fibre obtained from this plant. Kenaf is one of the allied fibres of jute and shows similar characteristics
01:45:55 Bob Hayes: https://www.uky.edu › ccd › production › crop-resources › GFFOF › kenaf
Kenaf | Center for Crop Diversification - University of Kentucky
Kenaf (Hibiscus cannabinus) is a warm-season annual row crop in the same plant family as okra and cotton (Malvaceae). Kenaf plants are capable of growing to a height of 20 feet under favorable conditions; however, heights generally average 8 to 14 feet in a growing season of 4 to 5 months.
01:48:15 Leo Jacoby: Updated links file
01:49:28 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: https://www.facebook.com/michaelelley
01:52:12 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: https://www.facebook.com/ShawndaClawson/
01:56:24 Leo Jacoby: Added Shawnda's Facebook links
01:59:48 Leo Jacoby: https://www.spiritualityandpractice.com/explorations/teachers/view/156/jose-hobday (Born in Texas to a Seneca-Iroquois mother and a Southern Baptist father, Sister Jose Hobday was a Seneca elder and a Sister of the Franciscan Order. Died April 5, 2009, at age 80)
02:03:00 Leo Jacoby: https://dailymeditationswithmatthewfox.org/2020/07/03/speaking-of-simpler-lifetyles-wisdom-from-sr-jose-hobday/
02:05:34 Leo Jacoby: > https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/road-peace/simple-life-jose-hobday (by John Dear May 19, 2009)
02:06:40 Leo Jacoby: > https://grateful.org/resource/a-beggars-gift/ (by Jose Hobday)
02:08:07 Leo Jacoby: Shawnda, did you send links just now "to everyone"?
02:09:34 Leo Jacoby: > https://texasihc.com/ (Welcome to The National Industrial Hemp Coalition)
02:10:06 Leo Jacoby: > https://earthmotherstudio.org/ (Permaculture is an Ethically Based Whole-System Design Approach that Uses Concepts, Principles and Methods Derived from Eco-Systems, Indigenous Peoples and Time Tested Practices)
02:11:33 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: Meet Us in #TheGathering . An Open Arms Convergence Room for "The 99 Days of Peace Through Unity" . Home of the Heal the Earth Initiative, we gather every Wednesday and Thursday at 2:oo to 4:oo pm CDT. The topic this week is … "The Lighting of the Beacons" . Establishing a Digital Smoke Signal Network.
The Gathering Convergence Room . https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89641414392
02:13:21 Bob Hayes: So long folks!
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