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Humanity Rising Day 744 After Chat – Wednesday July 19, 2023
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00:05:49 diana: André!! HR Day 707 29 May 2023 Urgent Call to Mothers & Grandmothers: War Stops Now. (and Daughters!!)
00:07:16 diana: You can find it on YouTube. Or Stan's Collection of HR
00:07:51 Dr.Barbara Leger: our work in Ukraine is planting today for our lives and nation tomorrow - curriculum is partially based on non violent communication and values based living in public school curriculum called The Understanding PEACE Project and seeding a new mindset with freedom, responsibility, creativity and over 100 words that are stepping stones of peace and possibility by both seeing the importance of planting what you want to live with and support. so power of conscious choice, acknowledging the opposites and choice what feels more constructive and then support to learn how to cultivate a heart at peace and possibility and find new ways to settle our differences and relieve us of automatic judgment and blame and encourage self-awareness, curiosity, respect and the power of conscious breathing instead of reacting.
00:08:56 Stanley Pokras: This is the AfterChat for Day 744
00:15:07 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/779095.Abolishing_War:: (Abolishing War: Dialogue with Peace Scholars Elise Boulding and Randall Forsberg 1998)
00:17:44 Leo Jacoby: ::https://archive.org/details/abolishingwarcul0000boul:: (borrow: Abolishing war : cultures and institutions by Boulding, Elise 1998)
00:19:32 Andre Sheldon: Andre@GlobalStrategyofNonviolence.org
Please ask me about Beatrice Fihn. I believe she is the most Powerful Peace Activist in the World!
00:22:08 Leo Jacoby: > ::https://watchlist.org/wp-content/uploads/20200420-watchlist-press-release-credible-list-report-final.pdf:: (UN: Name and Shame All Parties that Violate Children’s Rights)
00:22:58 Leo Jacoby: Beatrice Fihn is a Swedish lawyer. She was the Executive Director of the International Campaign to Abolish Nuclear Weapons from 2014 to 1 February 2023. Wikipedia
00:23:40 Kat Haber: I am a great grandmother. YEs, bring in the wisdom of the elder women who have brought life into life.
00:25:05 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/peace/:: (The 2022 Nobel Peace Prize is awarded to human rights advocate Ales Bialiatski from Belarus, the Russian human rights organisation Memorial and the Ukrainian human rights organisation Center for Civil Liberties. They document war crimes, human rights abuses and the abuse of power.)
00:25:46 Kat Haber: COLLABORATION is a muscle that shemanity can offer our communities.
00:28:28 Leo Jacoby: > ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sAvQTgP7kZ8:: (58:58 Nobel Peace Prize Winner: Beatrice Fihn | Full Q&A | Oxford Union)
00:28:52 Kat Haber: Peace & Climate movements have been happening for decades behind the scenes. Neither of these generate $. In capitalistic global economy, it is difficult to get the attention of those struggling to survive.
00:32:54 Leo Jacoby: Links file for today
00:32:58 Kat Haber: Good questions!
00:35:28 Dr.Barbara Leger: it won't change until we engage with it all - i.e. see it is possible for the government/media or whoever we see as the blocks-to be part of the solution. if we engage in it in all the phases of democracy - if we feel it is too late it is.... I plant non violent seeds of peace working in public school with sharing the humanistic values and using their opposites to feel and sense where we want to live.
00:38:13 kathryn davison: BTW I drive a gasoline-powered car still, so — fully cognizant of my ‘participant observer’ part in this collective dilemma.
00:39:07 Kat Haber: Multitudes of perspectives-many chaotic, insane, traumatized…
00:39:22 Kat Haber: I am quite aware.
00:44:02 diana: Kathryn : "BTW I drive a gasoline-powered car still, so — fully cognizant of my ‘participant observer’ part in this collective dilemma." 👍 This whole Thing with electricity :-( :-( :-(
00:44:15 Kat Haber: Good things are underway…& we are distracted by war at a moment we need to be focused working together to address the Xistential threat of climate that is right now blinking out half of the world’s species. We are part of that circle…
00:46:34 Paul Flansburg: Is he saying “let Russia lose” by giving ukraine weapons?
00:48:18 kathryn davison: Really good point, Barbara, and I see now that sometimes I get ‘exercised’ about these things b/c I never had a forum to simply say that and ask the question, ‘why?’
00:48:23 Paul Flansburg: China seems closest to producing what does not destroy, yes? I mean, between super powers?
00:51:03 Kat Haber: @Paul I’ve just spent last week with a few Chinese at high levels in policy and business. I am looking more deeply into a broader overview…beyond the us/them mindset.
00:53:15 Paul Flansburg: I asked sincerely before. What do people disagree with regarding what I’ve been saying in comments?
00:54:38 Dr.Barbara Leger: great handout Kat
00:55:41 Paul Flansburg: Right @Stanley Pokras, movements can command press coverage. The thing is press disallows movements when they begin.
00:57:02 diana: Paul, in Terms of your comments being taken negatively, I think it's the attitude of "only two sides". Antagonism. Taking comments defensively and not as Points of discussion
00:57:55 Dr.Barbara Leger: Paul 0 do you know Charles Betterton - he is working with this biggest view of possibility with China
01:00:19 Paul Flansburg: Diana, Gorbachev was upheld by Sachs. His influence, didn’t he allow perestroika to progress? Our speaker seemed more critical.
01:00:23 Dr.Barbara Leger: And I call New Dimensions The Library of Consciousness www.newdimensions.org
01:02:17 Paul Flansburg: “Creativity” vs propaganda. We have to identify propaganda, don’t we? Someone was advocating for this, yes?
01:04:53 Paul Flansburg: In Peru, during liberation theology fight, there was an effort to fight the “non-person” identity with the identity as one from a collective. I recall his from a maryknoll priest, anyway.
01:06:18 kathryn davison: Replying to "In Peru, during libe..."
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01:09:08 Paul Flansburg: I gotta go soon
01:09:23 Dr.Barbara Leger: bye paul
01:09:26 Dr.Barbara Leger: :)
01:09:51 Dr.Barbara Leger: barbara@goldenpathofpeace.org
01:12:04 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: Meet Us in #TheGathering . An Open Arms Convergence Room for "The 99 Days of Peace Through Unity" . Home of the Heal the Earth Initiative, we gather every Wednesday and Thursday at 2:oo to 4:oo pm CDT. The topic this week is … "The Lighting of the Beacons" . Establishing a Digital Smoke Signal Network.
The Gathering Convergence Room . ::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89641414392::
01:12:12 Kat Haber: Thanks everyone! Be happy.
01:15:11 Dr.Barbara Leger: stan I have a diagram to share with you today on creativity - can you let me share screen
01:20:25 diana: Apologies - have to take care of something.before the "shop" Closes.
01:23:35 Leo Jacoby: Shawnda, do you have a link for Earth Mother Network?
01:24:11 Dr.Barbara Leger: i must leave and thank you so much everyone
01:28:31 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.facebook.com/SoulStoryProductions::
01:32:55 Leo Jacoby: Shawnda, Which link? ::https://nihcoa.com/:: OR ::https://nationalihc.org/:: OR ???
01:33:50 Leo Jacoby: Not related to Shawnda?:
01:34:24 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: TexasIHC.com EarthMotherStudio.org
01:35:23 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: Shawnda Clawson . Earth Mother Network . TexasIHC@gmail.com . 806-782-7862
01:37:10 Leo Jacoby: ::https://texasihc.com/::
01:37:53 Leo Jacoby: ::https://earthmotherstudio.org/::
01:39:26 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: EarthMother@Live.com
01:39:45 Carol Sue Engleman Facebook Sarah Sue in Belize: Carol Sue Engleman on Facebook 760-437-5299
01:42:11 Carol Sue Engleman Facebook Sarah Sue in Belize: +501-614-6889 WhatsApp
01:42:44 Bob Hayes: Shawnda,
Is kenaf related to okra family botanically?
01:44:35 Bob Hayes: Kenaf - Wikipedia
Kenaf [etymology: Persian], [2] Hibiscus cannabinus, is a plant in the family Malvaceae also called Deccan hemp and Java jute. Hibiscus cannabinus is in the genus Hibiscus and is native to Africa, though its exact origin is unknown. [1] The name also applies to the fibre obtained from this plant.
01:44:59 Bob Hayes: Kenaf
Kenaf [etymology: Persian], Hibiscus cannabinus, is a plant in the family Malvaceae also called Deccan hemp and Java jute. Hibiscus cannabinus is in the genus Hibiscus and is native to Africa, though its exact origin is unknown. The name also applies to the fibre obtained from this plant. Kenaf is one of the allied fibres of jute and shows similar characteristics
01:45:55 Bob Hayes: ::https://www.uky.edu:: › ccd › production › crop-resources › GFFOF › kenaf
Kenaf | Center for Crop Diversification - University of Kentucky
Kenaf (Hibiscus cannabinus) is a warm-season annual row crop in the same plant family as okra and cotton (Malvaceae). Kenaf plants are capable of growing to a height of 20 feet under favorable conditions; however, heights generally average 8 to 14 feet in a growing season of 4 to 5 months.
01:48:15 Leo Jacoby: Updated links file
01:49:28 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: ::https://www.facebook.com/michaelelley::
01:52:12 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: ::https://www.facebook.com/ShawndaClawson/::
01:56:24 Leo Jacoby: Added Shawnda's Facebook links
01:59:48 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.spiritualityandpractice.com/explorations/teachers/view/156/jose-hobday:: (Born in Texas to a Seneca-Iroquois mother and a Southern Baptist father, Sister Jose Hobday was a Seneca elder and a Sister of the Franciscan Order. Died April 5, 2009, at age 80)
02:03:00 Leo Jacoby: ::https://dailymeditationswithmatthewfox.org/2020/07/03/speaking-of-simpler-lifetyles-wisdom-from-sr-jose-hobday/::
02:05:34 Leo Jacoby: > ::https://www.ncronline.org/blogs/road-peace/simple-life-jose-hobday:: (by John Dear May 19, 2009)
02:06:40 Leo Jacoby: > ::https://grateful.org/resource/a-beggars-gift/:: (by Jose Hobday)
02:08:07 Leo Jacoby: Shawnda, did you send links just now "to everyone"?
02:09:34 Leo Jacoby: > ::https://texasihc.com/:: (Welcome to The National Industrial Hemp Coalition)
02:10:06 Leo Jacoby: > ::https://earthmotherstudio.org/:: (Permaculture is an Ethically Based Whole-System Design Approach that Uses Concepts, Principles and Methods Derived from Eco-Systems, Indigenous Peoples and Time Tested Practices)
02:11:33 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: Meet Us in #TheGathering . An Open Arms Convergence Room for "The 99 Days of Peace Through Unity" . Home of the Heal the Earth Initiative, we gather every Wednesday and Thursday at 2:oo to 4:oo pm CDT. The topic this week is … "The Lighting of the Beacons" . Establishing a Digital Smoke Signal Network.
The Gathering Convergence Room . ::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/89641414392::
02:13:21 Bob Hayes: So long folks!
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