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== HR Resource Page ==
== '''This work has now moved to Talk page of List of Day pages''' ==
=== New HR Resources Page ===
* [[Talk:List of Humanity Rising Day Pages]]
[https://othernetworks.org/New_Humanity_Rising_Resource_Page Malini's New HR Resources Page]


=== Episodes List of Day Pages ===  
= Other Julie Wiki Notes =
* [[User talk:JulieWolf]]
 
= How to Make an Internal Back to TOP Link =
* Update 1/24/21 <nowiki>[[#top]]</nowiki> goes to actual top without needing headers or #anchors
* See [[Template:TopBottom Links]]
* If you use this: <nowiki>[[#Section Name| TOP]]</nowiki> the TOP link jumps up the page faster.
* Using an internal # anchor link, lets it jump up the page without opening in a new tab and reloading the page.
* # is created with headers as an internal anchor text link. See any Table of Contents links.
* Note the space works fine in a Section Name.
* 1/2/2021 I (JW) fixed the Day Page S-Templates and the 3 "List-of" pages so TOP jumps to the top of the page as follows:
** by placing <nowiki>[[#.| TOP]]</nowiki> at the bottom, and <nowiki>= . =</nowiki> near the top of the page.
* The <nowiki>= . =</nowiki> used to be used for Video-Chat table Navigation link. So I replaced <nowiki>= . =</nowiki> with <nowiki>= - =</nowiki> (a dash) which I am now using for Video-Chat in Navigation Row.
* On the 3 "List-of" pages I fixed TOP Links as follows:
** by placing <nowiki>[[#May_2020_-_Days_001_to_010|| TOP]]</nowiki> to replace all TOP links, its fixed because <nowiki>= May_2020_-_Days_001_to_010 =</nowiki> is the header near the top of the page.
== Stan improved : ==
** <nowiki>[[#Top Links| Top Links]] & [[#TOC| TOC]] & [[#Cats| Cats]]</nowiki> ; ''Cat'' for Categories are Links to Bottom. Thanks Stan!
** Top & Bottom sections can use these codes:
*** <nowiki>== Top Links ==
:[[#Cats| GoTo Bottom]]
{{HRBackTo}}
__TOC__</nowiki>
*** <nowiki>= Cats =
:[[#Top Links|  GoTo Top Links]]</nowiki>
*** Or throughout page: <nowiki>[[#Top Links| GoTo Top]]</nowiki>
== Julie made TopBottom Links Template: ==
* [[Template:TBL]]
* '''<nowiki>{{TBL}}</nowiki>''' to make Top and Bottom Links and GoTo Top links in Sections of long pages.<>br
*** List of All Templates is  here: https://othernetworks.org/Special:AllPages?from=&to=&namespace=10 which is found from Special pages, choose All pages, select namespace = Template from pull-down and hit GO.
*** ([[Special:UnusedTemplates|Unused Templates like S-Templates here]])
 
= How to Make a ''Day Page''=
* ''''''Steps''' - See also [[Talk:List of Humanity Rising Day Pages]] - where we update things on the [[Talk:List_of_Humanity_Rising_Day_Pages|Talk Page here]].'''
# Make New Day page from ''List of Day Pages'', by clicking the red hyperlinked words. [[List of Humanity Rising Day Pages| - Start by clicking here: <u>List of Day Pages</u>]].
# In Edit source, add S-Template (subst:S-HRDay) in double squigglies to new Day page, then save.
# Use the Table at the Top to open other pages needed to fill in the page (Week, 10Day, Chats, etc).
# In Edit source, delete the (HRBackTo) in double squigglies at the top (optional). Keep bottom one in Links Section.
 
:'''NOTE:''' Does not matter if Day Pages made by the 3 of us are different, as it evolves.
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How to make Chat page - Malini knows already:
# Add these Templates to the new chat pages:
##(subst:S-HRChat) in squiggle brackets
##(subst:S-AfterChat) in squiggle brackets
# Finish the 2 Chats (Malini or Stan pasting nice format)
##HRChat and
##AfterChat
# Check page links, proof read and you are done!
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= New HR Resource Page =
[https://othernetworks.org/New_Humanity_Rising_Resource_Page Malini's New HR Resource Page]
* Its clean. Only 3 sections:
# The 10 Day Table-Pages
# The Week Table-Pages
# HR Partners page
* what else do we need?
 
= List of Pages =
== List of Day Pages ==
*[[List of Humanity Rising Day Pages]]
*[[List of Humanity Rising Day Pages]]
*Malini's [[Humanity_Rising_Episodes_List| '''Episodes List Page''']]
 
*Julie's Naming Convention [[List of Humanity Rising Day Pages| '''List of Day Pages''' - with Naming Convention 'Day_ Title']]
== Lists of Chat Pages: ==
 
*[[List of HR Chat Pages| List of HR Chat Pages]] - Malini using to make HRChat pages.
*[[List of After Chat Pages| List of After Chat Pages]] - Malini using to make AfterChat pages.
 
= Naming Conventions =
 
== New Tool - List of Pages ==
Once we have decided the new pages naming conventions, (or need to make a mass change), I made a  spreadsheet to access a list of Pages & Topics, (Day and  Chat Pages) to easily change them for all HRDays/Rows on the 'List of Pages' pages.
* Page Names Tool (a spreadsheet): I populated the List pages for perfectly consistent Name Convention form - from this [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VIATBC0WmSXfm_b50YE5lo4fRqdZyS53BV4hDR0jCVI/edit#gid=0 Google Sheet here].
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== Day Page Names==
Update 12/6/2020 - Meeting with Stan and Malini:
* We are close to finalizing Day page Design; see [[Template:S-HRDay|Testing Day Page Design]] (temporarily on Template:S-HRDay). And also the Name...
:'''Close to finalizing Day page Name and URL.'''
:* Keep in mind, Malini has already made many Chat Pages with links back to Day page (before we knew the Day Page naming)
:* As we consider Stan's shortcut ideas in choosing Day Page names to fix issues with Chat pages created,  note that ...
:* Malini pointed out the Templates for the 2 different Chat page types - are different - so look at the source code to find ...
:* Has Link : ''*Back to (DayPageTitle| Humanity Rising Day81 Science as a Radical Collabrative Endeavor) in [[]]'' and
:* Has Link : ''*Back to (Humanity Rising Day 078) in [[]]''
:::* Also has (in source code), a comment
:::* (!-- Replace contents of double brackets with Title of the Day Page from https://othernetworks.org/List_of_Humanity_Rising_Day_Pages --)
::# After Chat: 'DayPageTitle'                in the url/naming convention maybe?
::# HR Chat:    'Humanity Rising Day 078'    in the url/naming convention maybe?
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== Day page Names we have considered ==
*'''HR!Day000''' : 12/10/2020 Stan likes and is close to choosing this! Title will be a header and visable on the List of Day pages still, url will be very short.
*'''Day000 Title''' :
::* Pros: Malini relied on the HR Topic in the title in making chat page. May be useful in making Day pages.
::* Cons: Russ & Stan have convinced Julie the Title will be found in the body header and not needed in the url. Can still have title on List of Pages page for us to copy and paste or refer to.
*Day-000 ---> Using 001 format would list numerically vs 1, 10, 100 (effects 1-99)
*HRDay000
*Day000HR  ---> matches HR chat page names 
**'''11/18/20''' Stan & I started to think about how clicking 'Category-Is HR Day' would list in order nicely.
:'''Idea From Russ:''' Have the date in the body of the page will show in search results. I'll add dates to Templates. See Date-Style tests on this page.
:'''Stan's Advise''' - One word '''Day_''' - no space so the # is not alone, search results would be better, not include every page with just the number.
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:*See Day Page Naming Conventions [[https://othernetworks.org/HRChat_Day_Page_QuickNotes#Naming_Conventions| Here]]<br>
'''[https://othernetworks.org/HRChat_Day_Page_QuickNotes Go to Top]'''
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*Stan showed us how to easily use this Episode list to create new Day Pages.(See source code of page.)
== Chat Page Names: ==
*But we must first decide how to name them. Search for a Day works best in the OneWord form, example Day136, as Stan explains.<br>
#Day000HRChat
#Day000HRAfterChat
*Note: Searching by date or HRDay# or presenter name or topic keywords...
* As the Chat Pages will be named something like 'Day083', I am thinking Day pages can be similar.
* If we add the date to the Chat page title, we do need it in the title of a Day page. With the Date in the page body (Template), its not needed in the Title of either kind of chat page.  
* Stan told me today 11/21/10 that naming pages Day# like oneword, would give search results better, not having the # separate. Stan approved Chats be on their own pages. Still designing them 11/19/20


=== ChatPeople Pages Include: ===
== HR Chat Pages ==
==== Chat Page Lists ====
* To create Chat page, add S-Template. Then fill in the Dates, Topic, Presenters & Chat page links.
*[[List of HR Chat Pages| List of HR Chat Pages]] to make new pages with naming convention.
* The [[List of HR Chat Pages| <u>List of HR Chat Pages Here</u>]], is an easy way to make new pages with correct names.
*[[List of After Chat Pages| List of After Chat Pages]] to make new pages with correct name.
* Dates are not in the page titles, and are in the page body.
* Dates have to be consistent so I made a [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VIATBC0WmSXfm_b50YE5lo4fRqdZyS53BV4hDR0jCVI/edit#gid=0| GoogleDoc <u>here</u>] to copy and paste dates in a consistent format for pasting onto pages.
* Here is a [[List of HR Chat Pages|List of HR Chat Pages]]


==== Stan's Pages Include ====
== After Chat Pages ==
* ChatPeople Images - image file(s) of the Zoom Gallery view - to place a face with a name.
* AKA Chat People Chat pages; After Chat seemed shorter. (Malini and Stan approved).
* ChatPeople Chat - Text of chat (.txt).
* Here is a [[List of After Chat Pages|List of After Chat Pages]]
* ChatPeople Video - After chat video.
* Note: Dates have to be consistent so I made a [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VIATBC0WmSXfm_b50YE5lo4fRqdZyS53BV4hDR0jCVI/edit#gid=0| GoogleDoc <u>here</u>] to copy and paste dates in a consistent format for pasting onto pages.  
* Humanity Rising Presenters - image files(s) of the Zoom Gallery view - to place a presenter face with a name.
* Humanity Rising Chat - Text of chat (.rtf)
* HR Q&A - Text of chat (.rtf) ''(when available)''
* Humanity Rising Video - on YouTube (Ubiquity University YT channel).
* Video Start Time Link - a presenter starts here (a YouTube time-stamp link) ''(when available)''.
*  Ubiquity University Site ubiverse.org  - Resource Link for HR Day with recording (video for logged in members), included Topics, Description, Categories, Participants and Publish Date.






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== How to Make a ''Day Page''==
Old Stuff Below... except Templates at the bottom can be useful still... https://othernetworks.org/HRChat_Day_Page_QuickNotes#Templates<br>
My first step is...<br>
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I made for myself a handy webpage (OneTab) not including this in the general "Steps".  
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So I open a [https://www.one-tab.com/page/XEVsxw7KSPas4A2LwDUTSg OneTab webpage] to open all the OtherNetworks Pages I need.
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=== Steps ===
'''[https://othernetworks.org/HRChat_Day_Page_QuickNotes Go to Top]'''
{{NBS}}
# Get data from Stan's https://othernetworks.org/HR_Chat_People_Day_134-138
# Make the 3 new pages; (1 Day & 2 Chat pages; Brilliant trick Stan!) from the lists pages, with Names of Pages already done:
## List of Day Pages (or Episode List) (see link in [https://othernetworks.org/HRChat_Day_Page_QuickNotes#New_Tools_-_List_of_Pages New Tools - List of Pages])
## List of HRChat Pages (see link in [https://othernetworks.org/HRChat_Day_Page_QuickNotes#New_Tools_-_List_of_Pages New Tools - List of Pages]) - (Note : Malini and Stan made a design on (temporary) [[Template:SRP Hr Chat]] I like.
## List of After Chat Pages (see link in [https://othernetworks.org/HRChat_Day_Page_QuickNotes#New_Tools_-_List_of_Pages New Tools - List of Pages])
# Add these Templates to the 3 New Pages respectively (1 Day & 2 Chat pages) :
##(subst:S-HRDay) in squiggle brackets
##(subst:S-HRChat) in squiggle brackets
##(subst:S-AfterChat) in squiggle brackets
# Day page needs to be filled in (still a little tedious but can be improved), using Stan's Data and links to the 2 Chat pages.
# Finish the 2 Chats (Malini' pasting nice format)  -
##HRChat and
##AfterChat
###(Is this ok? I changed the name from ChatPeopleChat to AfterChat - let me know if 'AfterChat' works for you - it happened when making the last Template for the Chat page).
# Check page links, proof read, search test and use where ever needed.
# The Episode or Day Lists can be linked to on the HR Resources maybe... or where ever you all think.
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=== New Tools - List of Pages ===
List of Pages and Spreadsheet Tool, '''used to''' :
# Make New pages by clicking the red hyperlinked words and then creating the page as instructed, plus adding the S-Templates.
# A spreadsheet to access a list of Titles AND also to easily change the naming convention for all Days/Rows on these List of Pages pages.
Here are the New Tools:
* [[List of Humanity Rising Day Pages| List of Day Pages]] to make new pages with correct naming convention. (as or 11/25/20 testing Naming Conventions, keep Topic in url, try searches with 'HRDay___' variations).
* [[List of HR Chat Pages| List of HR Chat Pages]] to make new pages with correct naming convention.
* [[List of After Chat Pages| List of HR After Chat Pages]] to make new pages with correct name.
* Page Names Tool (a spreadsheet): I populated the List pages for perfectly consistent Name Convention form - from this [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VIATBC0WmSXfm_b50YE5lo4fRqdZyS53BV4hDR0jCVI/edit#gid=0 Google Sheet here].
{{NBS}}
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==  Edit Existing Pages & Make New Pages ==
=  Edit Existing Pages & Make New Pages =
11/10/20: Malini and I Julie started this work - Phase 1  
11/10/20: Malini and I Julie started this work - Phase 1  


===  Phase 1 : Stan's Chat People Pages ===
==  Phase 1 : Stan's Chat People Pages ==
On '''[https://othernetworks.org/HR_Chat_People Chat People pages], Julie will do the 1st 8 pages until Day 103 and Malini will do the next 8 pages.'''
On '''[https://othernetworks.org/HR_Chat_People Chat People pages], Julie will do the 1st 8 pages until Day 103 and Malini will do the next 8 pages.'''


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We broke Stan's email links. Topic can be put below date/Day line to fix the broken links in all the email sent out. However this still needs deciding on, Malini likes topic in the Table of Contents at the top.
We broke Stan's email links. Topic can be put below date/Day line to fix the broken links in all the email sent out. However this still needs deciding on, Malini likes topic in the Table of Contents at the top.


===  Phase 2: New Pages ===
==  Phase 2: New Pages ==
''' Make New Day Pages, a page for each day, with everything on it. '''
''' Make New Day Pages, a page for each day, with everything on it. '''


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== Chat & Day Pages ==
= Chat & Day Pages =


'''Goal:''' Our goal is to add value and make everything searchable and more easily find-able.
'''Goal:''' Our goal is to add value and make everything searchable and more easily find-able.
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* Chat Pages - Only the Chat - 2 Types: HR and People chat.
* Chat Pages - Only the Chat - 2 Types: HR and People chat.


=== Idea 1:''' Chat Only Pages''' ===  
== Idea 1:''' Chat Only Pages''' ==  


:::* Create 1 or 2 templates for the Chats. They can be one template to use with either chat type (HR or ChatPeople), choosing which to use, deleting whats not needed. Or make 2 templates if that is more useful, one for each chat type.
:::* Create 1 or 2 templates for the Chats. They can be one template to use with either chat type (HR or ChatPeople), choosing which to use, deleting whats not needed. Or make 2 templates if that is more useful, one for each chat type.
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=== Idea 2:''' Day Pages''' ===
== Idea 2:''' Day Pages''' ==


:::* Create a <u>Complete</u> Humanity Rising '''Day Page''' for each Day.  
:::* Create a <u>Complete</u> Humanity Rising '''Day Page''' for each Day.  
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== '''Testing:''' Examples & Design ==
= '''Testing:''' Examples & Design =
==== '''Chat Pages''' ====
== '''Chat Pages''' ==


* Example: 'HR' Chat Page > https://othernetworks.org/HR_135_Chat  
* Example: 'HR' Chat Page > https://othernetworks.org/HR_135_Chat  
* Example: 'ChatPeople' Chat aka 'After Chat' > (do I have a template for that?)
* Example: 'ChatPeople' Chat aka 'After Chat' > (do I have a template for that?)
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===== Search Tests: =====
=== Search Tests: ===
# Search 'Day 135'. Shows us that 'Day' is not needed in page name. Search results showed page 'HR 135' == Humanity Rising Day 135 ==.
 
# Search 'Day 135'. Shows us that 'Day' is not needed in page name. Search results showed page 'HR 135' = Humanity Rising Day 135 =.
# Searching Nov 10th, did not find Day 135 nor November 10th. You have to search for the date format exactly. (See Date Formater). Add more date formats pm pages?  
# Searching Nov 10th, did not find Day 135 nor November 10th. You have to search for the date format exactly. (See Date Formater). Add more date formats pm pages?  
# ...
# ...
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=== '''Day Pages''' ===  
== '''Day Pages''' ==  
Day 83 Example:<br>
Day 83 Example:<br>


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=== Dates Formats ===
== Dates Formats ==
 
* What is the common way people search for a date?  
* What is the common way people search for a date?  
* Here is Wikipedia's answer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country
* Here is Wikipedia's answer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country
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* This ([https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Date_Formatter Date Formatter]) can make sure all forms of dates searched are recognized.
* This ([https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Date_Formatter Date Formatter]) can make sure all forms of dates searched are recognized.


==== Common Date Formats ====
== Common Date Formats ==
 
*YYYY-MM-DD
*YYYY-MM-DD
*DD-MM-YYYY
*DD-MM-YYYY
<br>Others:
<br>Others:
**Monday  01-Jun-20  
**Monday  01-Jun-20  
**01-06-2020  
**01-06-2020  
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**See also Naming Conventions for Templates [https://othernetworks.org/HRChat_Day_Page_QuickNotes#Template_Naming_convention_: here]
**See also Naming Conventions for Templates [https://othernetworks.org/HRChat_Day_Page_QuickNotes#Template_Naming_convention_: here]


== Naming Conventions ==
= Templates =
=== Day Page Names===
== Template Names ==
*'''Day___ Title'''  ... final....
* Find a [[List_of_Humanity_Rising_Day_Pages|List_of_Humanity_Rising_Day_Pages NEW page for List of Day Pages Here]] with this naming convention.
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>'''11/18/20''' Stan & I started to think about how a search of Category-Is HR Day would list in order nicely.
*2020.05.06 Day __ (Title) - This would sort well by date, even different years, but it adds 20 characters before keywords, so still testing before creating [[Humanity_Rising_Episodes_List| Episode List page]].
*Day ___ Title - is the shortest. Using 001 format would list numerically vs 1, 10, 100 - thinking that would not matter too much to a human.
*Day___ Title - FINAL.
 
>'''11/20/20''' Julie is assigned to do search tests of different naming  of pages and chats. Stan & Julie decide and email to Malini. I thought of naming chats short (i.e. HRChat 83) and adding the date either in the title, spelled out long form, or in the body (Template)
 
:'''Idea From Russ:'''  Have the date in the body of the page will show in search results. I'll add dates to Templates. See Date form tests on this page.
:'''Stan's Advise''' - One word '''Day_''' - no space so the # is not alone, search results would be better, not include every page with just the number.
 
=== Chat Page Names: ===
I hope Chat Pages will have short names like "HR 83"
<br>'''TESTS:'''<br>I am going to test naming different Days in the different ways ... and see how searching looks. 
 
Searching  by date or HRDay# or presenter name or topic keywords...
 
As the Episode List is going to be named something like 'Day 83 Title', I am thinking Chat pages can be similar.
 
If we add the date to the Chat page title, maybe we do need it in the title of a Day page.<br>Better yet, with the Date in the page body (Template), its not needed in the Title of either kind of page.
 
:Here are Title Ideas:
::* Day83 HR Chat
::* Day83 Chat People Chat
::* Day83 After Chat
 
'''Note:''' Stan told me today 11/21/10 that naming pages Day# like one word, , would give search results better, not having the # separate. Stan approved Chats be on their own pages. Still designing them 11/19/20
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==== HR Chat Pages ====
I made a [[List of HR Chat Pages| <u>List of HR Chat Pages Here</u>]], like the Episode list page. This is an easy way to make new pages with correct names.
* I named these HR Chat pages : '''Day __ HR Chat''' (for my 1st test ...)
* My first test is searching dates after trying different Page names.
* 1st Test is with dates not in the page titles, and dates are in the page body. Add Template. Then fill in the Dates, Topic, Presenters & Chat text at the bottom.
* Note: Dates have to be consistent so I made a [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VIATBC0WmSXfm_b50YE5lo4fRqdZyS53BV4hDR0jCVI/edit#gid=0| GoogleDoc <u>here</u>] to copy and paste dates in a consistent format for pasting onto pages.
* Here is a [[List of HR Chat Pages| List of HR Chat Pages]]  .... https://othernetworks.org/List_of_HR_Chat_Pages
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==== After Chat Pages ====
AKA Chat People Chat pages. After Chat seemed shorter. I hope not confusing - I will chat with Malini and Stan.
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I made a [[List of After Chat Pages| <u>List of After Chat Pages Here</u>]]. This is an easy way to make new pages with correct names.
* I named these 'Chat People Chat' pages : '''Day __ After Chat''' (for my 1st test ...)
* My first test is searching dates after trying different Page names.
* 1st Test is with dates not in the page titles, and dates are in the page body. Add Template. Then fill in the Dates, Topic, Presenters & Chat text at the bottom.
* Note: Dates have to be consistent so I made a [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1VIATBC0WmSXfm_b50YE5lo4fRqdZyS53BV4hDR0jCVI/edit#gid=0| GoogleDoc <u>here</u>] to copy and paste dates in a consistent format for pasting onto pages.
* Here is a [[List of After Chat Pages| List of After Chat Pages]]
 
== Templates ==
=== Template Names ===
Malini suggested naming Templates like this...
Malini suggested naming Templates like this...


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=== Template Types - Naming Convention ===
== Template Types - Naming Convention ==


* Use the regular Template:''Name'' for naming/creating templates which should not be edited within the page, such as those which migrate to everyplace they are used, i.e. regular Templates. Like Stan's block of Day-Range-Links; for example Template:HR Chat with tag (''Name) (''in double squiggly brackets)
* Use the regular Template:''Name'' for naming/creating templates which should not be edited within the page, such as those which migrate to everyplace they are used, i.e. regular Templates. Like Stan's block of Day-Range-Links; for example Template:HR Chat with tag (''Name) (''in double squiggly brackets)
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  Note: A substitute template inserts content into a page which can then be edited. Once the page where its used is saved, this tag is (substituted with template content) and removed from the page source code.
  Note: A substitute template inserts content into a page which can then be edited. Once the page where its used is saved, this tag is (substituted with template content) and removed from the page source code.
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=== Categories in Templates ===
== Categories in Templates ==
Ask Stan about what Categories go in the Templates for Day and Chat Pages.<br>
Ask Stan about what Categories go in the Templates for Day and Chat Pages.<br>
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Will there be any others?:
Will there be any others?:
*Category:Is-HR After Chat
*Category:Is-HR After Chat
*Category:Is-Chat People Chat
*Category:Is-Chat People Chat
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=== List of Existing Templates with Descriptions/Uses ===
== List of Existing Templates with Descriptions/Uses ==
 
 
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* [[Template:S-HRDay| '''Template:S-HRDay''' ]]  Use (subst:S-HRDay) in double squigglies, fills a new Day page [[List of Humanity Rising Day Pages| (See this list of Day Pages to make new pages here)]] .
* [[Template:S-HRChat| '''Template:S-HRChat''']]  Use to build a new HR Chat Page (linked to on the Day Pages). [[List of HR Chat Pages| See List of HR Chat Pages here]]. Use (subst:S-HRChat) in double squigglies.
* [[Template:S-HRChat| '''Template:S-HRChat''' ]]   ... is an Chat page linked to on the Day Pages. [[List of HR Chat Pages| See List of HR Chat Pages here]]. Use (subst:S-HRChat) in double squigglies.
* [[Template:S-AfterChat| '''Template:S-AfterChat''']] Use to build a new HR After Chat Page (linked to on the Day Pages). [[List of After Chat Pages| See List of AfterChat Pages here.]] Use (subst:S-AfterChat) in double squigglies.
* [[Template:S-AfterChat| '''Template:S-AfterChat''']] ... is another Chat aka ChatPeople chat page, linked to on the Day pages. [[List of After Chat Pages| See List of AfterChat Pages here.]] Use (subst:S-AfterChat) in double squigglies.
* [[Template:S-HRDay| '''Template:S-HRDay''']]   Use (subst:S-HRDay) in double squigglies, starts a new Day page [[List of Humanity Rising Day Pages| (See this list of Day Pages to make new pages here)]] .
:*'''Note:''' [[Template:S-HRDay| '''Template:S-HRDay''']] is temporarily being used as a place the team can use to make 900 series HR Day Pages to Test 3 different Day page designs (S-Templates). Once we lock in a design, the Template:S-HRDay page's source code will be replaced with the final design. (Test Template 1 was the original content of this Template. We are leaning toward Test-2 or 3 instead.)
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==== More ====
''' More:'''
* "Template:S-ChatPeopleDay" for Phase 1 (see above), a substitute-tag to insert the design/outline for the Chat People Pages List of Links, to fill in bulleted links.
* "Template:S-ChatPeopleDay" for Phase 1 (see above), a substitute-tag to insert the design/outline for the Chat People Pages List of Links, to fill in bulleted links.
* "Template:S-HRDay" An '''HR Day Page'''. Remade this "Template:S-HRDay" (with the S-naming convention).
* "Template:HRChat". I need to ask Stan how to delete "Template:HRChat".
:: Its a duplicate (to keep) of * "Template:HRChat". I need to ask Stan how to delete "Template:HRChat".
::* Note "''HRchat"'' won't work - its case sensitive)
* Template:S-HRChat Use on new '''HR CHAT Pages''' which will link on the complete Day pages to the chat only.
* Malini & Julie Wonder about creating a chat only 'ChatAction' chat Template:S-ChatACTIONChat for a possible '''CA CHAT Page'''.
* "Template:HRChat" (note "''HRchat"'' won't work - its case sensitive) - I will repurpose this for a new HRChat Page. Now 11/12/20 it is a Day Page but ... it can be deleted because both name and code... the code is already mostly on HR135 page to copy and paste into a new Template:S-HRChat.
* "Template:S-SampleZoomMeetingOutline" compares and gives options for Bold, Headers, Unformated. Delete what you dont want - use what you prefer. Maybe useless?
* Chat only 'ChatPeople' chat Template:S-AfterChat.
* Need to make a chat only 'ChatAction' chat Template:S-ChatACTIONChat An '''CA CHAT Page'''.
* "Template:S-SampleZoomMeetingOutline" compares and gives options for Bold, Headers, Unformated. Delete what you dont want - use what you prefer. Maybe useless...
* "Template:ChatPeopleDay" - I need to ask Stan how to delete this - rebuilt as an S-Name page.
* "Template:ChatPeopleDay" - I need to ask Stan how to delete this - rebuilt as an S-Name page.
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* "'''Template:HR Chat'''" - Stan's. A Regulate Template (vs the above Substitute Templates). It is inserted into H R Resource Page at top - block of Day-Range-Links. Stan edits this template to add more HR Days. Adding "HR Chat" (in double squiggly brackets) into a page inserts the Block of Days. This template tag remains in the source code of the page its used in. Its a regular Template:''Name''.  
* "'''Template:HR Chat'''" - Stan's. A Regulate Template (vs the above Substitute Templates). It is inserted into H R Resource Page at top - block of Day-Range-Links. Stan edits this template to add more HR Days. Adding "HR Chat" (in double squiggly brackets) into a page inserts the Block of Days. This template tag remains in the source code of the page its used in. Its a regular Template:''Name''.  
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Latest revision as of 04:28, 26 January 2021

This work has now moved to Talk page of List of Day pages

Other Julie Wiki Notes

How to Make an Internal Back to TOP Link

  • Update 1/24/21 [[#top]] goes to actual top without needing headers or #anchors
  • See Template:TBL
  • If you use this: [[#Section Name| TOP]] the TOP link jumps up the page faster.
  • Using an internal # anchor link, lets it jump up the page without opening in a new tab and reloading the page.
  • # is created with headers as an internal anchor text link. See any Table of Contents links.
  • Note the space works fine in a Section Name.
  • 1/2/2021 I (JW) fixed the Day Page S-Templates and the 3 "List-of" pages so TOP jumps to the top of the page as follows:
    • by placing [[#.| TOP]] at the bottom, and = . = near the top of the page.
  • The = . = used to be used for Video-Chat table Navigation link. So I replaced = . = with = - = (a dash) which I am now using for Video-Chat in Navigation Row.
  • On the 3 "List-of" pages I fixed TOP Links as follows:
    • by placing [[#May_2020_-_Days_001_to_010|| TOP]] to replace all TOP links, its fixed because = May_2020_-_Days_001_to_010 = is the header near the top of the page.

Stan improved :

    • [[#Top Links| Top Links]] & [[#TOC| TOC]] & [[#Cats| Cats]] ; Cat for Categories are Links to Bottom. Thanks Stan!
    • Top & Bottom sections can use these codes:
      • == Top Links == :[[#Cats| GoTo Bottom]] {{HRBackTo}} __TOC__
      • = Cats = :[[#Top Links| GoTo Top Links]]
      • Or throughout page: [[#Top Links| GoTo Top]]

How to Make a Day Page

  1. Make New Day page from List of Day Pages, by clicking the red hyperlinked words. - Start by clicking here: List of Day Pages.
  2. In Edit source, add S-Template (subst:S-HRDay) in double squigglies to new Day page, then save.
  3. Use the Table at the Top to open other pages needed to fill in the page (Week, 10Day, Chats, etc).
  4. In Edit source, delete the (HRBackTo) in double squigglies at the top (optional). Keep bottom one in Links Section.
NOTE: Does not matter if Day Pages made by the 3 of us are different, as it evolves.


How to make Chat page - Malini knows already:

  1. Add these Templates to the new chat pages:
    1. (subst:S-HRChat) in squiggle brackets
    2. (subst:S-AfterChat) in squiggle brackets
  2. Finish the 2 Chats (Malini or Stan pasting nice format)
    1. HRChat and
    2. AfterChat
  3. Check page links, proof read and you are done!


New HR Resource Page

Malini's New HR Resource Page

  • Its clean. Only 3 sections:
  1. The 10 Day Table-Pages
  2. The Week Table-Pages
  3. HR Partners page
  • what else do we need?

List of Pages

List of Day Pages

Lists of Chat Pages:

Naming Conventions

New Tool - List of Pages

Once we have decided the new pages naming conventions, (or need to make a mass change), I made a spreadsheet to access a list of Pages & Topics, (Day and Chat Pages) to easily change them for all HRDays/Rows on the 'List of Pages' pages.

  • Page Names Tool (a spreadsheet): I populated the List pages for perfectly consistent Name Convention form - from this Google Sheet here.


Day Page Names

Update 12/6/2020 - Meeting with Stan and Malini:

  • We are close to finalizing Day page Design; see Testing Day Page Design (temporarily on Template:S-HRDay). And also the Name...
Close to finalizing Day page Name and URL.
  • Keep in mind, Malini has already made many Chat Pages with links back to Day page (before we knew the Day Page naming)
  • As we consider Stan's shortcut ideas in choosing Day Page names to fix issues with Chat pages created, note that ...
  • Malini pointed out the Templates for the 2 different Chat page types - are different - so look at the source code to find ...
  • Has Link : *Back to (DayPageTitle| Humanity Rising Day81 Science as a Radical Collabrative Endeavor) in [[]] and
  • Has Link : *Back to (Humanity Rising Day 078) in [[]]
  1. After Chat: 'DayPageTitle' in the url/naming convention maybe?
  2. HR Chat: 'Humanity Rising Day 078' in the url/naming convention maybe?

Day page Names we have considered

  • HR!Day000 : 12/10/2020 Stan likes and is close to choosing this! Title will be a header and visable on the List of Day pages still, url will be very short.
  • Day000 Title :
  • Pros: Malini relied on the HR Topic in the title in making chat page. May be useful in making Day pages.
  • Cons: Russ & Stan have convinced Julie the Title will be found in the body header and not needed in the url. Can still have title on List of Pages page for us to copy and paste or refer to.
  • Day-000 ---> Using 001 format would list numerically vs 1, 10, 100 (effects 1-99)
  • HRDay000
  • Day000HR ---> matches HR chat page names
    • 11/18/20 Stan & I started to think about how clicking 'Category-Is HR Day' would list in order nicely.
Idea From Russ: Have the date in the body of the page will show in search results. I'll add dates to Templates. See Date-Style tests on this page.
Stan's Advise - One word Day_ - no space so the # is not alone, search results would be better, not include every page with just the number.



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Chat Page Names:

  1. Day000HRChat
  2. Day000HRAfterChat
  • Note: Searching by date or HRDay# or presenter name or topic keywords...
  • As the Chat Pages will be named something like 'Day083', I am thinking Day pages can be similar.
  • If we add the date to the Chat page title, we do need it in the title of a Day page. With the Date in the page body (Template), its not needed in the Title of either kind of chat page.
  • Stan told me today 11/21/10 that naming pages Day# like oneword, would give search results better, not having the # separate. Stan approved Chats be on their own pages. Still designing them 11/19/20

HR Chat Pages

  • To create Chat page, add S-Template. Then fill in the Dates, Topic, Presenters & Chat page links.
  • The List of HR Chat Pages Here, is an easy way to make new pages with correct names.
  • Dates are not in the page titles, and are in the page body.
  • Dates have to be consistent so I made a GoogleDoc here to copy and paste dates in a consistent format for pasting onto pages.
  • Here is a List of HR Chat Pages

After Chat Pages

  • AKA Chat People Chat pages; After Chat seemed shorter. (Malini and Stan approved).
  • Here is a List of After Chat Pages
  • Note: Dates have to be consistent so I made a GoogleDoc here to copy and paste dates in a consistent format for pasting onto pages.




WORKING ON THIS ...

Old Stuff Below... except Templates at the bottom can be useful still... https://othernetworks.org/HRChat_Day_Page_QuickNotes#Templates




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Edit Existing Pages & Make New Pages

11/10/20: Malini and I Julie started this work - Phase 1

Phase 1 : Stan's Chat People Pages

On Chat People pages, Julie will do the 1st 8 pages until Day 103 and Malini will do the next 8 pages.

  1. We will add the Topic on the Day/Date line (why? for better search results and to see the topic in the Table of Contents at the top).See UPDATE: 11/12 below.
  2. In Source code, add this substitute-tag under the Day/Date line "subst:S-ChatPeopleDay" (in double squiggly brackets). It inserts template content (a form) into the page.
  3. Then move the Chats, Videos, Images and Other Resources already on these pages into the "Template" form (in that order, Chat, Video, etc)

UPDATE: 11/12 - Stan did not like the way it looked with headers like Video, Chats, Images, OtherResources. We broke Stan's email links. Topic can be put below date/Day line to fix the broken links in all the email sent out. However this still needs deciding on, Malini likes topic in the Table of Contents at the top.

Phase 2: New Pages

Make New Day Pages, a page for each day, with everything on it.

  1. First, finalize the Day Page design and Template:S-HRDay. (ToDo: Stan plz delete Template:HRChat. Stan has a "regular" template "HR Chat" for the block of day ranges).
  2. Decide with Stan & Malini & Julie how to Title Day Pages - See Idea 2: Day Pages below
  3. Create a new page with the topic - search the entire topic title and create page from search results.
  4. Template:S-HRDay will populate the new page with a form to fill in by pasting this substitute-tag (subst:S-HRDay) (in double squiggly brackets) on the Edit Source tab.
  5. We talked about making it cleaner looking like on Chat People pages. (idea: use a template or just paste source code from People pages, once done in Phase 1 ... have to try it).
  6. Try a search and see results from both our Phase 1 & 2 work.
  7. What else?



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Chat & Day Pages

Goal: Our goal is to add value and make everything searchable and more easily find-able. Task: Make Templates for these 2 types of Pages:

  • Day Pages - (Complete pages for an HR Day. Including after chat resources, Chats, Videos, Images, All Resources, etc).
  • Chat Pages - Only the Chat - 2 Types: HR and People chat.

Idea 1: Chat Only Pages

  • Create 1 or 2 templates for the Chats. They can be one template to use with either chat type (HR or ChatPeople), choosing which to use, deleting whats not needed. Or make 2 templates if that is more useful, one for each chat type.
  • The Chat Pages created from these templates, containing just the Chats from HR and ChatPeople, have only the chats (or mostly just the Chats). Now they will be searchable, findable on OtherNetworks.
  • ASk Stan : These Chat Only pages would be linked to on the [HR Chat People Pages] to replace the Chat links that go to (are hosted on) Community Magic now and are thus not find-able with a search on OtherNetworks.
  • Naming Chat Pages Protocol :
  • HR Day _ Zoom Chat
  • Chat People Day _ Zoom Chat
  • Chat Action Day _ Zoom Chat


Testing a HRChat Page > https://othernetworks.org/HR_135_Chat . That page has the entire HR Chat This page has only the chat. Plus:

  • a link to HR Resources,
  • a link to the complete Day Page,
  • the Topic and Presenters to identify you are in the right place.



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Idea 2: Day Pages

  • Create a Complete Humanity Rising Day Page for each Day.
- Made with a Template:S-HRDay.
- Titled with HR Topic (keywords). Example Page Title: HR130 Charles Eisenstein & Vandana Shiva US Presidential Election 2020 Consequences
- Pages with meta tags and Categories that match the topic
- They may or may not include 'HR' or 'Humanity Rising' in the title. I recommend we may not need the words 'Chat', nor 'Day' and maybe not even "Humanity Rising" just to shorten the page title for SEO value for people and machine search.
- These pages would include content from that day with links to both types of "chat" pages (see Idea 1 above) and links to the Humanity Rising Resource Page
  • This will also allow us to have a more complete set of resources on 1 page for/from HR and ChatPeople for access to not only searchable chats, but also videos and presenters/participants names, websites, books, videos, projects, etc offered. Perhaps even video transcripts (more keywords and categories).

All of this adds value that is not duplicating work and resources that can be found on Ubiverse site or YouTube video descriptions.



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Testing: Examples & Design

Chat Pages


Search Tests:

  1. Search 'Day 135'. Shows us that 'Day' is not needed in page name. Search results showed page 'HR 135' = Humanity Rising Day 135 =.
  2. Searching Nov 10th, did not find Day 135 nor November 10th. You have to search for the date format exactly. (See Date Formater). Add more date formats pm pages?
  3. ...





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Day Pages

Day 83 Example:

This is closer to being a complete Day Page, but may need redesigning to make it look simpler (See Phase 1, work we did on Stan's Chat People Pages).

  • Shorter Page Example-2
  • Without the full chat.
  • Just a link to the chat (page)
  • Explained: I created a Page using the old (1st draft) "HRChat" Template to make a page here for just the chat so the Day 83 page (see example) would not be so long, not have the chat, just have a link to it on the Day page.



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Dates Formats

  • What is the common way people search for a date?
  • Here is Wikipedia's answer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country
  • NOTE: Code can be used so many formats of dates can be found in search, IF its turned on.
  • It is not turned on or does not work as advertised.
  • Using <date></date> failed (code visible).
  • This (Date Formatter) can make sure all forms of dates searched are recognized.

Common Date Formats

  • YYYY-MM-DD
  • DD-MM-YYYY


Others:

    • Monday  01-Jun-20
    • 01-06-2020
    • 1-6-2020
    • 1/6/2020
    • 6/1/2020 (USA)

    • See also Naming Conventions for Templates here

Templates

Template Names

Malini suggested naming Templates like this...

  • HRD - HR DAY
  • HRZC - HR Zoom Chat
  • CPD - Chat People Day
  • CPC - Chat People Zoom Chat
  • CAD - Chat action Day
  • CAC - Chat Action Zoom Chat

Template Types - Naming Convention

  • Use the regular Template:Name for naming/creating templates which should not be edited within the page, such as those which migrate to everyplace they are used, i.e. regular Templates. Like Stan's block of Day-Range-Links; for example Template:HR Chat with tag (Name) (in double squiggly brackets)
  • Use Template:S_Name for naming/creating Templates that substitute the tag (subst:S-"Name") (in double squiggly brackets) in the page, and are removed, replacing the tag with the template contents; for example subst:S-HRChat . This allows you to edit the page content without editing the template.
Note: A substitute template inserts content into a page which can then be edited. Once the page where its used is saved, this tag is (substituted with template content) and removed from the page source code.

Categories in Templates

Ask Stan about what Categories go in the Templates for Day and Chat Pages.

I see on browse Category page under Is:

  • Category:Is-HR Chat‎
  • Category:Is-HR Day‎
  • Category:Is-Humanity Rising Episode‎
  • Category:Is-HR Chat People Week‎



Will there be any others?:

  • Category:Is-HR After Chat
  • Category:Is-Chat People Chat
  • Category:Is-HR Videos
  • Category:Is-HR Recordings
  • or any others?

List of Existing Templates with Descriptions/Uses


  • Note: Template:S-HRDay is temporarily being used as a place the team can use to make 900 series HR Day Pages to Test 3 different Day page designs (S-Templates). Once we lock in a design, the Template:S-HRDay page's source code will be replaced with the final design. (Test Template 1 was the original content of this Template. We are leaning toward Test-2 or 3 instead.)

More:

  • "Template:S-ChatPeopleDay" for Phase 1 (see above), a substitute-tag to insert the design/outline for the Chat People Pages List of Links, to fill in bulleted links.
  • "Template:HRChat". I need to ask Stan how to delete "Template:HRChat".
  • Note "HRchat" won't work - its case sensitive)
  • Malini & Julie Wonder about creating a chat only 'ChatAction' chat Template:S-ChatACTIONChat for a possible CA CHAT Page.
  • "Template:S-SampleZoomMeetingOutline" compares and gives options for Bold, Headers, Unformated. Delete what you dont want - use what you prefer. Maybe useless?
  • "Template:ChatPeopleDay" - I need to ask Stan how to delete this - rebuilt as an S-Name page.


  • "Template:HR Chat" - Stan's. A Regulate Template (vs the above Substitute Templates). It is inserted into H R Resource Page at top - block of Day-Range-Links. Stan edits this template to add more HR Days. Adding "HR Chat" (in double squiggly brackets) into a page inserts the Block of Days. This template tag remains in the source code of the page its used in. Its a regular Template:Name.


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