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Humanity Rising Day 818 Chat Page   –   Tuesday December 5, 2023

Text of the Zoom Chat from Humanity Rising Day 818

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11:03:18 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Keeping the sunny side up! Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!

11:04:11 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   Hello and welcome to Day 818 of Humanity Rising

11:06:13 From Judy Hanmer To Everyone:

   What about other countries: can they be persuaded to reveal what they know about UAPs\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/

11:06:15 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Thank you, Jim, for your good work!

11:07:12 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   today is Tuesday, December 5th

11:07:23 From Leo Jacoby To Everyone:

   ::https://newparadigmproject.org/::

11:07:27 From Mary Thorp_WV To Everyone:

   What happens if it doesn’t pass?

   What’s next?

11:07:46 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Judy, I think that’s a great idea - Mexico had front page news recently with an alien pictured. I think the US will be left in the dust if they continue to maintain UAP secrecy.

11:08:43 From Leo Jacoby To Everyone:

   ::https://newparadigmproject.org/uap-disclosure-act/::

11:08:47 From Mary Thorp_WV To Everyone:

   Same thinking: destroying democracy.

11:09:24 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Close Encounters of the Fifth Kind is an excellent movie, available on Amazon Prime.

11:09:38 From Charles Bensinger To Everyone:

   US military is now weaponizing reverse engineered UFO technology. Very scary.

11:11:07 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Rupert Read’s page on OtherNetworks: ::https://othernetworks.org/Rupert_Read::

11:13:12 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   Thank you, Shannon!

11:15:21 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Liam Kavanagh on X: ::https://twitter.com/liamckavanagh?lang=en::

11:16:02 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   And on Climate Majority Project: ::https://climatemajorityproject.com/our-team/::

11:24:05 From david Beatty To Everyone:

   Could someone send me the url to see yesterday's session. I couldn't stay long, found it fascinating, and couldn't locate the Humanity Rising library of videos that I had earlier (last year ) used. Thanks  .

11:24:45 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   In OtherNetworks Stan collects links of HR & AfterChat sessions, along with the chats from both, and all the speakers who have appeared. Check out the list of episodes, and then dive deeper: ::https://othernetworks.org/Searchable_Listing_of_Humanity_Rising_Episodes::

11:25:40 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   David, go to Recent Episodes.

11:27:15 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Stan sends out an email every day with the links to the HR recording and the chat, etc. If you’d like to receive the email, send Stan a message with your email.  Stan@OtherNetworks.org

11:28:04 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

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               Welcome to Humanity Rising

              With Love...          

               Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

                       You can join the After Chat here:       

               ::::::::::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::::::::::   

               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

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      We’ll post this invitation several times…

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11:28:12 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Thanks, Stan!

11:29:21 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   Liam expects to be with us in the AfterChat for brief time.

11:29:30 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   LK: Polycrisis aware: There are ecological, crisis in democracy, ideology=metacrisis, must see as our economic system is deeply flawed and founded improperly. (Meanwhile, Economology can be a better foundation. Economic system founded on functioning Earth Ecology.) Climate Majority can not deny excess of carbon in atmosphere, well understood-though Jim points out that many do deny human-caused climate (There is a free app called Inconvenient Facts that lists 60 mis/disinformations.)  LK responds humans can believe just about anything, talking to others echo chambers of beliefs, makes things feel real, nearly as much as reality, Oil execs instead of people take an oil job to get in and get out-instead they change their values, stay in to retirement, others feel they can not change it and way of life is part of it and feel bad about themselves-reduced to money important to feel the people feel good about themselves, if current lifestyle is part of the problem, then making people feel evil from social pressure,

11:30:11 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   JG: reality as it truly is, social matrix that reinforces particular point of view that serves our self interest (Unconscious bias?)

11:31:10 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Thanks, Kat!

11:31:37 From david Beatty To Everyone:

   Thanks immensely. Cop 28 and the wealth of intelligence from Humanity Rising is so important. Do have to jump away, but to find the recordings is very important.  gratefully, David Beatty

11:32:31 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   LK: internalize implicit around us…first word sets a tone, feel together about it (Ah ha why people enjoy attending Conferences together-TEDxVail Speakers and invitation to speak your Xperience/feelings-thanks fro this have better understanding of why it and Humanity Rising works!) In group concerned about climate change make people aware that many others feel like them then feel reasonable purpose together

11:33:55 From Carol Sue Engleman To Everyone:

   I protested in Portland OR

11:35:00 From Kim White To Everyone:

   Someone in Atlanta just attempted to self-immolate as protest of the slaughter in Gaza.

11:35:20 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   JG: protested the Vietnam War from San Jose, California Buddhist selfemolating in Saigon, reinforced others to fight the fight of the war. Zeal of the lord of hosts as in the Bible, Thich Nat Hahn: ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Th%C3%ADch_Nh%E1%BA%A5t_H%E1%BA%A1nh::.  Stayed clear to his dying day, avatar without shadow turning

11:36:05 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   Bergerac, France: ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bergerac,_Dordogne::

11:36:26 From Louise Beekman To Everyone:

   Stan and I will be encouraging the relationship between Humanity Rising and the Global Regeneration CoLab. Coming up in 20 minutes is: GRC: Regen Ag Community Chat

   Tuesday, December 5⋅12:00 – 1:00pm

   ::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/8523900975?pwd=dzJyNzQ2Tm5ZZVM0WVZmVWpGSURwUT09::

   The full guest list has been hidden because the number of guests is too large.

   Stan Pokras

   This is a time for people working on or interested in Regenerative Agriculture & related topics to get together, meet, compare notes, and maybe colab.  Join us!

   

   Hosted by Erik van Lennep and Cassandra Goodmansen.

11:37:04 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Louise, thank you. I’m sorry I can’t be in 2 places.

11:37:07 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   Genocide. Hurt cultures hurt cultures?

11:37:09 From Liam Kavanagh To All Panelists:

   ::https://lifeitself.org/blog/2022/04/30/self-burning-confronts-us-with-radical-concern-if-we-let-it::

11:37:38 From Richard Page To Everyone:

   Thay learned anti war politics from martin Luther King according to a book on the history of ‘Beloved Community’ by Bishop Marc Andrus

11:40:53 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   TNH responded in a letter to MLK about proper form of protest Vietnam.

11:41:21 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   Wow - we learn real history here on Humanity Rising

11:42:01 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   Suicide in honor of protesting the most impossible to express. Blog LK has written on this in medium-link?

11:43:34 From Meg Newhouse To Everyone:

   Sorry I have to leave this deep conversation.

11:44:17 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Liam’s Medium blog:::https://lkavanagh.medium.com/::

11:44:24 From Mary Thorp_WV To Everyone:

   Louise, is it connected with Eduard Muller from yesterday/Costa Rico?

11:45:04 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   ::https://lifeitself.org/blog/2022/04/30/self-burning-confronts-us-with-radical-concern-if-we-let-it::

11:45:42 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   Mary, I will be encouraging Eduard to participate in the Global Regeneration CoLab. I started in the AfterChat yesterday.

11:48:54 From Louise Beekman To Everyone:

   Global Regeneration CoLab (GRC) ::https://othernetworks.org/Global_Regeneration_CoLab_(GRC)::

11:50:30 From Amy Blumenshine To Everyone:

   Scientific American’s December cover issue is great on connecting the different concerns regarding nuclear fuels and weapons.  Definitely raises awareness on the evil of the $2T “modernizing” underway…::https://www.scientificamerican.com/issue/sa/2023/12-01/::

11:50:59 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   Plutonium Culture PhD written by Jim, Nuclear and environmental people then did not connect…(Reconnecting these two communities again with TPNW and Climate solutions) LK: look at Greenpeace or Extinction Rebellion, support COP/EV’s Cristina Figueres, take matters in own hands> progressive demographic, interest in climate is not exclusively progressive, People who are progressive claim IPCC is too hesitant> meme in progressive world wants to cross over, climate anxiety recently from NYTimes, been largely progressive media The Guardian/Mother Jones now into mainstream, like getting arrested> progressive, Institutional solutions: voting/writing elected’s lost hope and take bottom up approach, dogmatism separates, keeps small…LK tries to create space where all can work together, doesn’t;t like “WOKEISM” ridiculing, progressives do not need to be ridiculed, all can be less dogmatic

11:53:29 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   Climate Majority PRog=ject search for common ground, find ways people will be prepared to take meaningful action to move the needle, Campaign-REGULATE US-business calling for their own regulation, cancelled in biz world if say will not get to net zero in time if biz is not regulated, different laws completely, financiers know this, but not saying it, We mean business calls for regulations 2% of capital, but 70% know we need more regulation

11:53:43 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   R3.0 – Redesign for Resilience and Regeneration ::https://othernetworks.org/R3.0_%E2%80%93_Redesign_for_Resilience_and_Regeneration:: r3.0 crowdsources open recommendations for necessary transformations across diverse economic, social and government fields and sectors, in response to the ecological and social collapses humanity is experiencing, in order to achieve a thriving, regenerative and distributive economy and society.

11:55:22 From Leo Jacoby To Everyone:

   ::https://integraltranspersonallife.com/interview-with-jim-garrison/::

11:56:29 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   If biz or teachers call for more regulation or tell the truth high school teachers their jobs are in jeopardy, take climate science seriously, group anxiety easier for many to deal with, told to observe COP then clap-when outcome falls short? Future is like this nervous/fearful/depressed future looks worse, or numb 18-25 year olds, especially in island nation of UK, create campaign with spaces for that (Climate coaches can help with managing these feelings)

11:56:40 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Thanks, Leo!!

11:57:02 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   With Love...          

               Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

                       You can join the After Chat here:       

               ::::::::::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::::::::::   

               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

                            ..oOo..

11:59:33 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   Now we are at 1.7 degree Centigrade, given what is happening at COP28, what does climate majority suggest? LK: Turn employer into a lobbyist-biz sector to regulate us campaign, find out what needs to be done and a strategy to scale it, like WWII mindset-beat Hitler-not simple thing, assemble massive HR department, do it ourselves, CMP: not get stuck in streets protesting, economy grounds to a halt, not everything changes, everyone has something to do>>>Awareness, rather citizen led mobilization, create spaces for people to deal with their anxiety, ways thousands, millions put their efforts right now

12:00:09 From Leo Jacoby To Everyone:

   ::https://archive.org/details/plutoniumculture0000garr:: (BORROW: The plutonium culture : from Hiroshima to Harrisburg

   by Garrison, Jim, 1951- Publication date 1981)

12:00:36 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   You can join the After Chat here:       

               ::::::::::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::::::::::   

               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

                            ..oOo..

12:00:37 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Thank you,  Jim and Liam… join us in the AfterChat if you can…

12:00:47 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   You can join the After Chat here:       

               ::::::::::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::::::::::   

               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

                            ..oOo..

12:00:55 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   JG: Grow, change, develop, honoring grandfather’s legacy to LK. Thanks everyone!

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