25 Aug 2021 Chat
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00:19:23 Stanley Pokras: Deep Dive August 25 2021
00:32:31 Julie Wolf: ::https://othernetworks.org/Universal_Foundation_for_Holistic_Design_(UFHD)::
00:33:36 Julie Wolf: Eli Kline page ::https://othernetworks.org/Eli_Kline::
00:39:53 Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net: I can talk when I’m not in the dr.
00:46:48 Stanley Pokras: An amazing TED Talk on the variety of cultures in the world by Wade Davis: ::https://othernetworks.org/Wade_Davis::
00:50:18 Carell Mehl-UFHD: Thank you Stanley
01:01:35 Ian Lewis: Eden
County Antrim = Where I was born
01:01:43 Ian Lewis: ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eden,_County_Antrim::
01:03:14 Angelica: ::https://www.ufhd.ca/::
01:23:36 Angelica: ::https://www.ufhd.ca/holistic-design::
& the principle of dynamics is what I just referenced :)
01:24:02 Shannon McArthur: Thanks Angelica
01:27:43 Leo Jacoby: Ian, how fun to be born in a place named Eden (North of Belfast)
01:31:22 Leo Jacoby: 80/20 is the targeted ratio. What are typical current ratios in agricultural systems today, according to your criteria?
01:33:48 Ian Lewis: From earliest memories I felt the early energy of the place and love going back to my family there. The fields, the hedgerow, the sea-shore...:)) Going back to Eden is quite something for me....
01:35:08 Julie Wolf: Good feelings Ian! Thanks!!!
01:36:09 Julie Wolf: From Joy- Crowd intelligence! (more then crowd funding, so much more).
01:39:35 Carell Mehl-UFHD: Beautiful Ian!
01:40:57 Julie Wolf: Nice term: Energy Accounting
01:41:17 Leo Jacoby: Ian, do you know Laurie Lee's 1959 Cider with Rosie, a wonderfully vivid memoir of childhood in a remote Cotswold village, a village before electricity or cars, a timeless place on the verge of change. ::https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/292314.Cider_with_Rosie:: (U.S. title The Edge of Day)
01:42:39 Julie Wolf: Not screen sharing on purpose?
01:44:32 Julie Wolf: are we here? ::https://www.ufhd.ca/the-80-20-System::
01:47:04 Julie Wolf: Sindy wow thank you for the amazing beautiful graphics on the here ::https://www.ufhd.ca/the-80-20-System::
01:47:31 Sindy-UFHD: Thank you Julie!
01:50:00 Julie Wolf: I remember on one of Dr Zach Bush videos on regen farming, the one family who went ahead alone amongst an agricultural community expressing what that was like.
01:50:54 Leo Jacoby: What percent of the earth's land is farmed?
The global impact of farming on the environment is revealed in new maps, which show that 40 percent of the Earth's land is now given over to agriculture. University of Wisconsin-Madison scientists compiled the maps using satellite images and crop and livestock production data from countries around the world. Dec 8, 2005 ::https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/article/agriculture-food-crops-land::
01:50:55 Julie Wolf: ::https://othernetworks.org/:: to Add a page!
01:52:25 Julie Wolf: Encyclopedia of World Problems and Human Potential ::https://othernetworks.org/Encyclopedia_of_World_Problems_and_Human_Potential::
02:01:34 Ian Lewis: An interesting take on valuing nature plus some other organisations working in this arena e.g., Findhorn.org and ::https://www.brahmakumaris.org/about-us/introduction:: - ::https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2020/09/how-much-is-this-planet-worth-the-value-of-nature/:: The key will be ensuring the joining of hands, minds, spirits and hearts...locally < >globally?
02:02:49 Julie Wolf: Thanks Ian! is that on Othernetworks? Have you Added a page there yet? (You are awesome - I love your intro)
02:03:36 Ian Lewis: Promise - it will be there tomorrow,.... :))
02:08:15 Ian Lewis: We have 77% of global land variously farmed by human effects, although some is just destroyed.
02:08:35 Julie Wolf: Off to Taichi group. I will watch the recording! Sounds awesome. Love for you all! Bye for now
02:12:37 Leo Jacoby: ::https://othernetworks.org/HR!Day286:: The Calidonian Forest Alan Watson Featherstone
02:13:23 Shannon McArthur: Alan Watson Featherstone ::https://othernetworks.org/HR!Day286::
02:13:57 Angelica: ::https://www.soilfoodweb.com/::
02:15:49 Joy Gilfilen: ::https://sustainableconnections.org/::
02:16:11 Joy Gilfilen: ::https://www.soundhorticulture.com/::
02:18:39 Shannon McArthur: ::https://kamloopsfoodpolicycouncil.com/::
02:19:11 Joy Gilfilen: ::https://scalingclimatesolutions.org/::
02:19:18 Stanley Pokras: ::https://othernetworks.org/Ellen_MacArthur_Foundation::
02:19:34 Stanley Pokras: The Circular Economy: ::https://othernetworks.org/Ellen_MacArthur_Foundation::
02:19:47 Joy Gilfilen: ::https://community-wealth.org/content/business-alliance-local-living-economies::
02:19:52 Leo Jacoby: ::https://kisstheground.com/:: Awakening people to the possibilities of regeneration: TAKE ACTION -- BECOME A SOIL ADVOCATE -- JOIN THE REGENERATION
02:21:06 Joy Gilfilen: ::https://www.amazon.com/Blessed-Unrest-Largest-Movement-Restoring/dp/0143113658?asin=0143113658&revisionId=&format=4&depth=1::
02:21:26 Leo Jacoby: Kiss the Ground is a full-length documentary narrated by Woody Harrelson that sheds light on an “new, old approach” to farming called “regenerative agriculture” that has the potential to balance our climate, replenish our vast water supplies, and feed the world.
02:21:45 Angelica: We love Kiss the Ground Leo!
02:26:07 Stanley Pokras: I’m going to propose that we work on a glossary of “Transformational” terms. We need a common language to be able to work together.
02:26:42 Angelica: Yes, language is so important in understanding the context behind the terminology we use
02:26:50 Carell Mehl-UFHD: Yes Stanley
02:27:44 Ian Lewis: This is a great start, Stanley. Adding an 'o' to god - this seems to help as just one example.
02:28:02 Christa: The name of the Austrian documentary about farmers is: Bauer Unser, still available in the replay on ORF, the Austrian TV company. However, I doubt that it can be accessed from everywhere. ::https://tvthek.orf.at/profile/Dok-1/13844820/Dok-1-Bauer-unser/14102448/Dok-1-Bauer-unser/14981486::
02:34:04 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.politico.com/news/2021/07/19/china-buying-us-farms-foreign-purchase-499893::
"Foreign investors by the end of 2019 held an interest in more than 35 million acres — an area bigger than New York State. The total has grown by an average 2.3 million acres per year since 2015, according to USDA data.
"... money flowing into agricultural real estate from other countries makes it difficult for new farmers in the U.S. to afford land as outside buyers bid up prices... a big risk with an older generation of farmers set to exit the industry.
...artificially increase the value of that land... denies young and beginning farmers opportunities to farm.”
02:34:18 Shannon McArthur: Chief Phil Lane Jr and others have created this document that talks about the network I refer to as the Circulation System of Spirit: ::https://docs.google.com/document/d/1N0gBbqXZ0yKKkgzsFaXY01x6N6aHdkG-PKXJNOVawcw/edit?fbclid=IwAR0ANwkxGfvTVJ-RNtUlaKqf1XvUJSmijqNMrdKaNE0wpWfpGBuE9Pd2rLo::
02:35:33 Joy Gilfilen: The guy who is behind this is Vinny Ribas...he is doing new TV channels...that can help us redistribute knowledge usefully. ::https://indieconnect.com/:: We are looking now for 30 sec happiness songs that inspire kids, grandparents...singers, storytellers, etc.
02:36:15 Stanley Pokras: The glossary could be started by people helping to work on the OtherNetworks category called “Issues”. ::https://othernetworks.org/Category:Issue::
02:41:17 Leo Jacoby: Need to act locally, but the ownership of "local land" is often corporate, including foreign investors. Profit incentive seems to "trump" health and eco-balances. To regenerate we need lots of heart community gardens, and Eric's "each house have a green house."
02:42:00 Carell Mehl-UFHD: So true Leo.
02:42:07 Joy Gilfilen: Mark Beuhrer - Founder of 2020Engineering.com is a wealth of wisdom about building living buildings. Living Building Challenge projects - include many pieces such as aquaponics, etc.
02:42:34 Shannon McArthur: I have to join a call for a few minutes. I’ll be back.
02:42:35 Carell Mehl-UFHD: Oh very good Joy Thank you
02:43:10 Joy Gilfilen: And there is the EarthShips ideas from I think Taos NM area...
02:43:21 Ian Lewis: Leo - I love the communities around the globe the members of which adopt any spare land to grow community foods. It's a start...
02:44:02 Leo Jacoby: Growers need cooperatives; "consumers" need cooperatives. Consumers becoming growers?
02:44:46 Ian Lewis: Try this... ::https://www.incredible-edible-todmorden.co.uk/::
02:44:50 Angelica: & more power too
02:48:38 Stanley Pokras: The Strength of Weak Ties… ::https://communitymagic.org/theory/the-strength-of-weak-ties/::
02:51:07 Shannon McArthur: Can the 80/20 system be used in cities?
02:51:09 Leo Jacoby: Ian, I appreciative your cheery attitude, fruit of your Eden upbringing?
02:54:24 Ian Lewis: Leo - yes - my four cousins, and now huge family over there. A hoot from start to finish of any visit. :))
02:54:42 Stanley Pokras: The 80/20 Rule
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The 80-20 rule, also known as the Pareto Principle, is an aphorism which asserts that 80% of outcomes (or outputs) result from 20% of all causes (or inputs) for any given event. In business, a goal of the 80-20 rule is to identify inputs that are potentially the most productive and make them the priority.
-- From a Google Search: The 80-20 rule
02:58:20 Shannon McArthur: Nancy, we know your message. Thank you.
03:00:08 Ian Lewis: Sorry, Team, I'm time-out for another session. Go well all. Thank you. Tell it to these people: ::https://www.positive.news/magazine/:: Ciao!
03:00:29 Eric Thompson: Many thanks to the Crane spirit messenger!
03:03:48 Shannon McArthur: Crane represents immortality, purity, vigilance, longevity, and good fortune
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