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Humanity Rising Day 805 Chat Page – Thursday November 16, 2023
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11:01:03 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Good morning!! Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:01:20 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Here we go….
11:02:32 From Stanley Pokras To All Panelists:
Welcome to Day 805 of Humanity Rising
11:03:26 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Welcome to Day 805 of Humanity Rising
11:03:34 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
Welcome
11:05:16 From Diane Carol Mark To Everyone:
Which countries Minister of Oil? The USA?
11:05:23 From Monica Plant To Everyone:
Thank you for all the greetings and welcome this morning.
11:07:05 From Micha Austen To Everyone:
Brilliant! Thank you!
11:08:08 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
People think of their own self, their families, their community, their nation, but little of the world and even less about their species.
11:08:40 From Kathleen McTeigue To Everyone:
Yes, Jim, it always comes back to consciousness.
11:08:52 From David Stoney To Everyone:
Diane Carol, no, it’s the minister from UAE, the United Arab Emirates, one of the Persian Gulf states with Hughe amounts of oil.
11:09:01 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
The environment is breaking down and the climate is changing rapidly. The Week is a group experience to help us see what’s coming and what we can do about it. https://www.theweek.ooo
You may also wish to connect yourself and your work with www.OtherNetworks.org.. It is a platform to bring ALL CARING and HELPFUL people’s around the world empower the Matrix together in the work we’re here to do. post your expertise and quest and organization. See what you can do collaborating with the Peace Lab’s vision: Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace.
Use this link for more practices from Kurt, including some gifts and other resources: https://linktr.ee/kurtkrueger
11:09:29 From Jean Yzer To Everyone:
I can hold both this reality check with all the challenges and devastating circumstances AND leave the door open for positive movement forward at COPP 29.
11:10:15 From Josef Princiotta To All Panelists:
Religion poisons every thing and everyone it touches. Capitalism does the same. Fix that and you solve most of humanities problems.
11:11:10 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
What a World, huh…we need so much wisdom on the 🌎 Blessings Everyone!
11:11:17 From Josef Princiotta To All Panelists:
AI is the big "nipple" in the sky to save us?
11:11:42 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Josef & all, Pease set the blue “To” button to “Everyone”
11:13:09 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Welcome Robb!
11:14:05 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Looking through the “Chats” I found that Robb is mentioned to be close to Ken Wilber.
11:14:18 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Nice; thanks, Stan.
11:15:52 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Also APPLY what is contained in Living Values Education’s Activities for Caring for the Earth.
“With nature’s help, humankind can set into creation all that is necessary and life-sustaining.” ~ Hildegard of Bingen
11:16:31 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
PLEASE, check out the efforts of the UNIVERSAL FOUNDATION FOR HOLISTIC DESIGN.They are an educational re-enculturation processes teem. It has a Socio-Economical/environmental/spiritual transition plan to get us back as nature. https://www.ufhd.ca.
11:16:50 From Josef Princiotta To Everyone:
Religion poison every thing and everyone it touches. Capitalism does the same. Fix that and you solve most of humanities problems.
11:21:01 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
https://integrallife.com/the-maturing-test-how-developed-is-the-worlds-most-advanced-ai/
11:21:02 From anne de Lovinfosse To Everyone:
I wanted to share the presentation of yesterday with friends and could not find where to locate ireplay. Does someone know how to figure it out? Thanks
11:21:12 From Miles Seiden To All Panelists:
Clever! ‘Ma-Turing test’
11:22:34 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Anne - You can find yesterday here: https://othernetworks.org/HR!Day804
11:22:50 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
All replays are on UU YouTube channel
11:23:31 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Send me your email address to receive my daily report of links to Humanity Rising and the AfterChat.
11:24:19 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Anne (and Everyone) you can find ALL HR episodes here: https://othernetworks.org/Searchable_Listing_of_Humanity_Rising_Episodes
11:24:25 From diana Winhill To Everyone:
anne, put Humanity Rising 804 into YouTube, and it should come up
11:24:41 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
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Welcome to Humanity Rising
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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11:25:24 From Robert Hayes To Everyone:
Piaget, the child psychologist, gave us a defining experiment for Orange cognitive thinking:
https://reinventingorganizationswiki.com/en/theory/orange-paradigm-and-organizations/
11:25:30 From anne de Lovinfosse To Everyone:
Thank you diana
11:26:00 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Thank you Robert
11:28:51 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
IMAGINAL CELL is THE IMAGE for this expression.
11:30:09 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Josef, WE need your presentation skills… could you share some idea.
11:30:38 From Monica Plant To Everyone:
Thanks for keeping translating, Georg.
11:31:35 From diana Winhill To Everyone:
Anne, quick additional clarification: Humanity Rising Day 804 - don't leave out Day. There is also another, totally different Humanity Rising on YouTube
11:32:32 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
AI is valuable for identifying emerging patterns not yet visible for the benefit of reorganizing for higher and better purpose. Can we use it to knowledge capture emerging knowledge patterns within the graduate school theses and dissertations at Ubiquity? Then publish this collective wisdom for the world?
11:35:01 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
We don’t see quadrants???
11:35:15 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
The dotted lines, Stan...
11:35:24 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
See dotted lines, Stan?
11:35:39 From diana Winhill To Everyone:
Yes Stan - each one contains two boxes
11:35:50 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Stan I spotted the quadrants on the outside corners
11:35:58 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
My screen isn’t showing dotted lines.
11:36:17 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Look at the outside corners of the text
11:36:48 From diana Winhill To Everyone:
Do you see Personal/Subjective in the upper Right Hand Corner?
11:37:02 From diana Winhill To Everyone:
sorry LEFT HAND corner
11:37:27 From diana Winhill To Everyone:
That is one quadrant
11:37:57 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Oohh, the lines are showing on my higher resolution screen.
11:39:02 From Charry Stover To Everyone:
The text is really too small for me to easily read it.
11:39:22 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
I’m hoping we don’t have to read it…
11:40:15 From Michael Putz To Everyone:
Robb - have you done the Maturing Test on all the major AI Foundation models, including Anthropic and Inflection AI, to see if there is any measured difference in developmental level?
11:40:38 From diana Winhill To Everyone:
My vocabulary is increasing by leaps and Bounds!!
11:41:27 From Eric Cathcart To Everyone:
ChatGPT 3.5 is free. ChatGPT 4(Turbo)? is $20.00 US monthly.
11:41:27 From anne de Lovinfosse To Everyone:
Thanks Diana
11:41:38 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
Yes Eric
11:47:26 From Kathleen McTeigue To Everyone:
Does anybody have a link to the color levels Robb keeps referring to?
11:48:05 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Jiyun, the Q&A function will not be recorded in any way and won’t affect the history of this conversation.
11:48:17 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_Dynamics
11:48:44 From Kathleen McTeigue To Everyone:
Thanks, Georg.
11:50:46 From Miles Seiden To Everyone:
Here’s a chart from one of Robb’s articles (teal is 8/Strategist): https://integrallife.com/ten-stages-consciousness/
11:50:49 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Stan can you they repeat questions to be included? Thanks 🙏
11:51:00 From Jean Yzer To Everyone:
I'm not sure that empathy is a turquoise or teal concept. Compassion would be in my humble opinion.
11:51:01 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Thanks, Miles!
11:51:28 From Miles Seiden To Everyone:
np…Scroll to “Ten Stages of Human Consciousness”
11:53:00 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
QUESTION: “how do we get AI to help actualize this Vision: “Because I believe total Peace is Possible, I am called to BE Peace in a way that excites in others their vision of Peace resulting in Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace.”
11:53:12 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
QUESTION from the Q&A: jiyun park 11:44 AM
Biases or missing onto epistemological data?
11:53:44 From 2020 To All Panelists:
Human has to be conscious enough to ask proper questions to get the information, it’s not telepathically known the eagerness. So humans have to be more aware of their evolution, isn’t it 🙏
11:54:05 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Great Question @Kurt!
11:55:24 From Stanley Pokras To 2020 and All Panelists:
Please set the blue “To” button to “Everyone” so all can see your comments.
11:55:33 From Eric Cathcart To Everyone:
When we speak of Open AI, isn't ChatGPT-4 (pay to play) vs. ChatGPT-3.5 (free but less functional) creating inequity by putting up barriers to those who don't have the capacity (money-wise) to use the better tool with more lenses?
11:55:46 From Miles Seiden To Everyone:
Thank you for your brilliance, Robb. Have to head to a meeting, but enjoyed your creation and demonstration of this tool — one of the best uses of AI I’ve come across.
11:56:05 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
How do we use it to identify emerging wisdom trends within Ubiquity graduate student theses and dissertations?
11:56:52 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
This is so fascinating....sorry I have to catch the rest in replay
11:58:14 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
AI doesn’t feel, care… it will not be insulted.
11:58:18 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
@Kurt have you stumped AI with world peace?
11:58:23 From Michael Putz To Everyone:
Robb - have you measured the developmental level and quadrant of the censor function included in ChatGPT? Every foundation model may be Orange, but each platform has created a ‘safety’ layer that edits out any query or answer that offends ‘Green’. So you need to measure the Maturing Level of the questions the platform answers, and ALSO measure the developmental level of the Sentence stems it will censor or refuse to answer. This developmental censoring process undertaken in the name of Ai safety is growing very quickly in the AI world. Point being it that the AI platforms may become actively hostile to allowing their platforms to Mature beyond Orange to provide higher stage answers.
11:58:50 From christiane melzer To Everyone:
Maybe add a question regarding conflicts of the past and how they were solved on a world stage successfully
11:59:47 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Yes Cindy -
Stan - asking about complex processes and relationships as non-textual not large language data base omissions?
12:00:37 From jiyun park To Everyone:
But the question of world peace will inform loop operations for next like morphic resonance like ai?
12:02:20 From jiyun park To Everyone:
But maintaining Growth potential after simple entry ?
12:03:21 From michael coles To Everyone:
When the teacher teaches the student, the student teaches the teachers student to teach.
~A Perspective B Thoughts
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