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11:01:03 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Good morning!! Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:01:20 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Here we go….
11:02:32 From Stanley Pokras To All Panelists:
Welcome to Day 805 of Humanity Rising
11:03:26 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Welcome to Day 805 of Humanity Rising
11:03:34 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
Welcome
11:05:16 From Diane Carol Mark To Everyone:
Which countries Minister of Oil? The USA?
11:05:23 From Monica Plant To Everyone:
Thank you for all the greetings and welcome this morning.
11:07:05 From Micha Austen To Everyone:
Brilliant! Thank you!
11:08:08 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
People think of their own self, their families, their community, their nation, but little of the world and even less about their species.
11:08:40 From Kathleen McTeigue To Everyone:
Yes, Jim, it always comes back to consciousness.
11:08:52 From David Stoney To Everyone:
Diane Carol, no, it’s the minister from UAE, the United Arab Emirates, one of the Persian Gulf states with Hughe amounts of oil.
11:09:01 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
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11:09:29 From Jean Yzer To Everyone:
I can hold both this reality check with all the challenges and devastating circumstances AND leave the door open for positive movement forward at COPP 29.
11:10:15 From Josef Princiotta To All Panelists:
Religion poisons every thing and everyone it touches. Capitalism does the same. Fix that and you solve most of humanities problems.
11:11:10 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
What a World, huh…we need so much wisdom on the 🌎 Blessings Everyone!
11:11:17 From Josef Princiotta To All Panelists:
AI is the big "nipple" in the sky to save us?
11:11:42 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Josef & all, Pease set the blue “To” button to “Everyone”
11:13:09 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Welcome Robb!
11:14:05 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Looking through the “Chats” I found that Robb is mentioned to be close to Ken Wilber.
11:14:18 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Nice; thanks, Stan.
11:15:52 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Also APPLY what is contained in Living Values Education’s Activities for Caring for the Earth.
“With nature’s help, humankind can set into creation all that is necessary and life-sustaining.” ~ Hildegard of Bingen
11:16:31 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
PLEASE, check out the efforts of the UNIVERSAL FOUNDATION FOR HOLISTIC DESIGN.They are an educational re-enculturation processes teem. It has a Socio-Economical/environmental/spiritual transition plan to get us back as nature. ::https://www.ufhd.ca::.
11:16:50 From Josef Princiotta To Everyone:
Religion poison every thing and everyone it touches. Capitalism does the same. Fix that and you solve most of humanities problems.
11:21:01 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
::https://integrallife.com/the-maturing-test-how-developed-is-the-worlds-most-advanced-ai/::
11:21:02 From anne de Lovinfosse To Everyone:
I wanted to share the presentation of yesterday with friends and could not find where to locate ireplay. Does someone know how to figure it out? Thanks
11:21:12 From Miles Seiden To All Panelists:
Clever! ‘Ma-Turing test’
11:22:34 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Anne - You can find yesterday here: ::https://othernetworks.org/HR!Day804::
11:22:50 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
All replays are on UU YouTube channel
11:23:31 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Send me your email address to receive my daily report of links to Humanity Rising and the AfterChat.
11:24:19 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Anne (and Everyone) you can find ALL HR episodes here: ::https://othernetworks.org/Searchable_Listing_of_Humanity_Rising_Episodes::
11:24:25 From diana Winhill To Everyone:
anne, put Humanity Rising 804 into YouTube, and it should come up
11:24:41 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
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Welcome to Humanity Rising
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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11:25:24 From Robert Hayes To Everyone:
Piaget, the child psychologist, gave us a defining experiment for Orange cognitive thinking:
::https://reinventingorganizationswiki.com/en/theory/orange-paradigm-and-organizations/::
11:25:30 From anne de Lovinfosse To Everyone:
Thank you diana
11:26:00 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Thank you Robert
11:28:51 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
IMAGINAL CELL is THE IMAGE for this expression.
11:30:09 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Josef, WE need your presentation skills… could you share some idea.
11:30:38 From Monica Plant To Everyone:
Thanks for keeping translating, Georg.
11:31:35 From diana Winhill To Everyone:
Anne, quick additional clarification: Humanity Rising Day 804 - don't leave out Day. There is also another, totally different Humanity Rising on YouTube
11:32:32 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
AI is valuable for identifying emerging patterns not yet visible for the benefit of reorganizing for higher and better purpose. Can we use it to knowledge capture emerging knowledge patterns within the graduate school theses and dissertations at Ubiquity? Then publish this collective wisdom for the world?
11:35:01 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
We don’t see quadrants???
11:35:15 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
The dotted lines, Stan...
11:35:24 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
See dotted lines, Stan?
11:35:39 From diana Winhill To Everyone:
Yes Stan - each one contains two boxes
11:35:50 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Stan I spotted the quadrants on the outside corners
11:35:58 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
My screen isn’t showing dotted lines.
11:36:17 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Look at the outside corners of the text
11:36:48 From diana Winhill To Everyone:
Do you see Personal/Subjective in the upper Right Hand Corner?
11:37:02 From diana Winhill To Everyone:
sorry LEFT HAND corner
11:37:27 From diana Winhill To Everyone:
That is one quadrant
11:37:57 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Oohh, the lines are showing on my higher resolution screen.
11:39:02 From Charry Stover To Everyone:
The text is really too small for me to easily read it.
11:39:22 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
I’m hoping we don’t have to read it…
11:40:15 From Michael Putz To Everyone:
Robb - have you done the Maturing Test on all the major AI Foundation models, including Anthropic and Inflection AI, to see if there is any measured difference in developmental level?
11:40:38 From diana Winhill To Everyone:
My vocabulary is increasing by leaps and Bounds!!
11:41:27 From Eric Cathcart To Everyone:
ChatGPT 3.5 is free. ChatGPT 4(Turbo)? is $20.00 US monthly.
11:41:27 From anne de Lovinfosse To Everyone:
Thanks Diana
11:41:38 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
Yes Eric
11:47:26 From Kathleen McTeigue To Everyone:
Does anybody have a link to the color levels Robb keeps referring to?
11:48:05 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Jiyun, the Q&A function will not be recorded in any way and won’t affect the history of this conversation.
11:48:17 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_Dynamics::
11:48:44 From Kathleen McTeigue To Everyone:
Thanks, Georg.
11:50:46 From Miles Seiden To Everyone:
Here’s a chart from one of Robb’s articles (teal is 8/Strategist): ::https://integrallife.com/ten-stages-consciousness/::
11:50:49 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Stan can you they repeat questions to be included? Thanks 🙏
11:51:00 From Jean Yzer To Everyone:
I'm not sure that empathy is a turquoise or teal concept. Compassion would be in my humble opinion.
11:51:01 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Thanks, Miles!
11:51:28 From Miles Seiden To Everyone:
np…Scroll to “Ten Stages of Human Consciousness”
11:53:00 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
QUESTION: “how do we get AI to help actualize this Vision: “Because I believe total Peace is Possible, I am called to BE Peace in a way that excites in others their vision of Peace resulting in Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace.”
11:53:12 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
QUESTION from the Q&A: jiyun park 11:44 AM
Biases or missing onto epistemological data?
11:53:44 From 2020 To All Panelists:
Human has to be conscious enough to ask proper questions to get the information, it’s not telepathically known the eagerness. So humans have to be more aware of their evolution, isn’t it 🙏
11:54:05 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Great Question @Kurt!
11:55:24 From Stanley Pokras To 2020 and All Panelists:
Please set the blue “To” button to “Everyone” so all can see your comments.
11:55:33 From Eric Cathcart To Everyone:
When we speak of Open AI, isn't ChatGPT-4 (pay to play) vs. ChatGPT-3.5 (free but less functional) creating inequity by putting up barriers to those who don't have the capacity (money-wise) to use the better tool with more lenses?
11:55:46 From Miles Seiden To Everyone:
Thank you for your brilliance, Robb. Have to head to a meeting, but enjoyed your creation and demonstration of this tool — one of the best uses of AI I’ve come across.
11:56:05 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
How do we use it to identify emerging wisdom trends within Ubiquity graduate student theses and dissertations?
11:56:52 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
This is so fascinating....sorry I have to catch the rest in replay
11:58:14 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
AI doesn’t feel, care… it will not be insulted.
11:58:18 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
@Kurt have you stumped AI with world peace?
11:58:23 From Michael Putz To Everyone:
Robb - have you measured the developmental level and quadrant of the censor function included in ChatGPT? Every foundation model may be Orange, but each platform has created a ‘safety’ layer that edits out any query or answer that offends ‘Green’. So you need to measure the Maturing Level of the questions the platform answers, and ALSO measure the developmental level of the Sentence stems it will censor or refuse to answer. This developmental censoring process undertaken in the name of Ai safety is growing very quickly in the AI world. Point being it that the AI platforms may become actively hostile to allowing their platforms to Mature beyond Orange to provide higher stage answers.
11:58:50 From christiane melzer To Everyone:
Maybe add a question regarding conflicts of the past and how they were solved on a world stage successfully
11:59:47 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Yes Cindy -
Stan - asking about complex processes and relationships as non-textual not large language data base omissions?
12:00:37 From jiyun park To Everyone:
But the question of world peace will inform loop operations for next like morphic resonance like ai?
12:02:20 From jiyun park To Everyone:
But maintaining Growth potential after simple entry ?
12:03:21 From michael coles To Everyone:
When the teacher teaches the student, the student teaches the teachers student to teach.
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12:12:53 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
contextdriven.ai
12:13:54 From Josef Princiotta To Everyone:
Why can’t we copy this chat?
12:14:10 From Josef Princiotta To Everyone:
What is the reason to keep it from us?
12:14:13 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
Because zoom doesn’t allow attendees to do so
12:14:21 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
Stan copies it
12:14:40 From michael coles To Everyone:
How did a Data Point become smart when "smart" is a bucket of hodge podge
~A Perspective B Thoughts
12:14:45 From Diana Claire Douglas To Everyone:
How do we get in touch with Stan?
12:14:50 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Once again the link for Robb’s platform?
12:15:05 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
I just lost a few chat comments due to a system crash.
12:16:07 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Stan, can you give us the last time/message you have a record of so we can duplicate anything lost?
12:16:36 From susanne kasack To Everyone:
whats the business webpage from Robb ?
12:17:10 From Robb Smith To Everyone:
www.contextdriven.ai
12:17:12 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
::https://instituteofappliedmetatheory.org/::. ?
12:17:15 From Stanley Pokras To Shannon McArthur and All Panelists:
just restarted at 12:12
12:17:23 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
12:17:30 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
works
12:18:02 From susanne kasack To Everyone:
thnxs !!
12:18:05 From Shannon McArthur To All Panelists:
What about before that, Stan… you said you lost “a few”
12:18:08 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:18:10 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
I think cntextdrive.ai might need some feminine input..... Just saying. To learn feim rhe past.
12:18:40 From Shannon McArthur To All Panelists:
Georg, Stan had a crash - can you please copy the chat for us?
12:18:42 From jiyun park To Everyone:
TEAL Time. Brilliant thanks so much Robb and all.
Trans- like RE-
Reform
Transform
Love integrating with UN SDGs.
12:18:49 From Shannon McArthur To All Panelists:
Georg?
12:19:02 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
saved
12:19:07 From Shannon McArthur To All Panelists:
Thanks!!
12:19:36 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
Brilliant brlilliant as always.. But this week is. Great miind bender
12:20:12 From Jim Garrison To Sarita Patel and All Panelists:
Sarita! Good to hear from you. We should connect.
12:20:50 From Michael Kennedy To Everyone:
I'm not sure that any of this is happening by coincidence and I'm grateful that you are paying attention and doing the amazing work that's needed!!
12:20:55 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Can’t put genie back into bottle? ChatGPT showed that?
12:21:34 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
Dissolving our boundaries. Interconnectedness rises.
12:21:39 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
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12:21:52 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Value added is also trust
Where’s trust on integral colors?
12:22:06 From Michael Putz To Everyone:
AI systems are trained on Orange data, passed through Green censor layers/filters that are hostile to higher stage perspectives
12:22:22 From Josef Princiotta To Everyone:
Thank you Robb. I agree and have said the same to my friends.
12:22:44 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
Great to be here.. Would love to connect JG
12:22:51 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Unless people want value pay for use upper higher colors ? Youth culture will value that.
12:23:26 From Josef Princiotta To Everyone:
Capitalism over all!
12:23:46 From jiyun park To Everyone:
So we’re talking about vital need for raising consciousness?
12:24:25 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Josef, is that sarcasm?
12:24:32 From Josef Princiotta To Everyone:
NO
12:24:47 From Josef Princiotta To Everyone:
it is a fact to me.
12:25:13 From David Stoney To Everyone:
For some reason I’m thinking that the road to Hell is paved with orange good intentions…
12:25:17 From susanne kasack To Everyone:
have you heard about miltary Ai in ukraine war (drones) ? i ve seen an add on youtube
12:25:28 From Mark Babson To Everyone:
what a beautiful statement: there are always ways to contribute and to add meaning
12:25:51 From Michael Putz To Everyone:
Ai Foundation models have no Network effects?
12:25:54 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
Governmets nd educators are ovwr loaded with beurocrcy so this is a perfect time to Help infiltrate for good. they need help and dont have bandwidth tO learn.
12:26:38 From Andrew Stock To Everyone:
who are the lobby clients using this?
12:26:45 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
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12:27:01 From Josef Princiotta To Everyone:
Thank you all for this vital information.
12:27:23 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Brilliant series. Grateful.
12:27:43 From Michael Putz To Everyone:
AI foundation models take billions to develop - perhaps 10s of billions soon
12:28:29 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Whenever you say goodbye, please do it with The Peace Salute, ::https://youtu.be/iAknrhuvPr0:: ZOOM PEACE into the world. Young people love it! You can too. :)
12:28:31 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
The brain does not light up the same when in Zoom conversations as it does in face2face.
12:28:36 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
Star wars used R2 as Ai symbol
12:28:42 From susanne kasack To Everyone:
chat gtp 4 with phone sounds like from starwars C2D2 LOL
12:28:49 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
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12:28:54 From David Stoney To Everyone:
Thanks to all for a very interesting presentation
12:29:11 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:29:15 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Thanks so much!
12:29:16 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Thanks for your life’s work for a thriving life for all. Together in collaboration, coagulation, and dialogue, we get to prompt the world back into thriving for ALL our relations.
Kurt Krueger, AnotherU, PeaceMakersCircles at gmail dot com
See how we can bring Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace even faster with the PeaceMaker Master Heart Circles while being all we can be to : ::https://noblegoldman.com/fun/intentional-change-network/kurtkrueger::
Be inspired with the incredible work of WE imaginal cells (those cells that create a butterfly from a dark yucky goo) with this video:
::https://youtu.be/Xz9IJMMWP4M::
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