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Humanity Rising Day 743 After Chat – Tuesday July 18, 2023
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00:51:35 Leo Jacoby: > ::https://archive.org/details/polishrevolution0000timo:: (The Polish revolution: Solidarity by Timothy Garton Ash 1985)
> ::https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1991/10/24/solidaritys-sources/:: (Solidarity’s Sources by Lawrence Goodwyn, reply by Timothy Garton Ash
October 24, 1991 issue In response to: Poland After Solidarity from the June 13, 1991 issue)
> ::https://archive.org/details/rootsofsolidarit0000laba:: (The roots of Solidarity : a political sociology of Poland's working-class democratization
by Laba, Roman, 1991)
> ::https://archive.org/details/breakingbarrierr0000good:: (Breaking the Barrier: The Rise of Solidarity in Poland by Lawrence Goodwyn 1991)
00:57:13 Shannon McArthur: Welcome, Shawnda, my friend. Good to see you here. Did you see the presentation on HR today?
00:57:21 Stanley Pokras: This is the AfterChat for Day 743
01:00:09 diana: Thank you, Hyacinth
01:01:09 Leo Jacoby: > ::https://archive.org/details/creativeclassgoe0000unse:: (The creative class goes global 2013)
> ::https://archive.org/details/flightofcreative0000flor:: (The flight of the creative class : the new global competition for talent by Florida, Richard L 2005)
> ::https://archive.org/details/citiescreativecl0000flor:: (Cities and the creative class by Florida, Richard L 2005)
> ::https://archive.org/details/riseofcreativecl00flor:: (The Rise of the creative class : And how it's transforming work, leisure, community and everyday life by Florida, Richard 2002)
01:04:03 Kat Haber: So glad that you are a survivor.
01:06:47 Hyacinth Oesterlin: I followed the Maidan Uprising on TV
01:08:49 Leo Jacoby: > ::https://www.commentary.org/articles/hannah-arendt/revolution-and-public-happiness/:: (By Hannah Arendt "The purpose of the following reflections is to rehabilitate the word “revolution.” No other word, except perhaps “freedom,” will be more urgently needed in the years to come, and no other word, without exception, has been more gravely compromised by the events of the 20th century.")
> ::https://www.jstor.org/stable/23955552:: (Hannah Arendt on Revolution by Albrecht Wellmer 1999)
> ::https://chrisdamian.net/2016/01/14/summary-hannah-arendts-on-revolution-chapter-1-the-meaning-of-revolution/:: (by CHRIS DAMIAN JANUARY 14, 2016)
01:12:23 Leo Jacoby: Links and Sources Academics (from July 17 slide)
• Professor Timothy Snyder - historian — The Making of Modern Ukraine — YouTube serie
• Professor Serhii Plokhv— historian -The Gates of Europe
• Associate Professor Mythailo Wynnyckvj — sociology - Ukraine's Maidan. Russia's War
• Professor Mary Sarotte — Not One Inch
• Professor Orlando Figes' — histonan - work on Russia
• Dr. Olesya Khromeychuk — historian — A Loss. The Story of a Dead Soldier Told by His Sister
• Anne Applebaum - journalist and historian — work on Russja — winner Pulitzer Prate
• Associate professor Marci Shores — The Ukrainian Night: An Intimate History of Revolution
• Vladtslav Zubok — historian — Collapse. the fall of the Sovtet Urvon
01:12:23 Leo Jacoby: • Dr Robert Horvath — Work on Russian politics
• Professor Candace Rondeaux — Work on the Wagner group
• Professor Alexander Stubb — former Finish prime minister — PhD International politics, — was present at NATO talks In 2008 and explains how Mearsheimer is wrong regarding NATO expansion (YouTube)
• Masha Gessen — Russian born journalist - The Man Without a Face: The Unlikely Rise of Vladimir Putin
• Dr. Vlad Vexler — Philosophy and political theory - Russian born YouTuber, his work on YouTube
01:16:41 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: A vaccine that anyone can take to cure humans inhumanity to others ~
To be fully effective, this gets to be done periodically through the day, until well practiced to work. Here’s a 15 minute video describing PeaceMaker Meditation. ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo:: Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace. will reverberate throughout your day… This ‘mantra’ is used in your HOME language. Then Law of Predominant Mental Impression makes it the focus thus attracting more peace to you and ‘others.’
A few scientifically proven benefits that meditation also gives: stress/trauma reduction, improved performance in sports and elsewhere, increased mental and physical health.
01:17:23 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: For your children in any situation whether in a war zone or in school.
01:17:49 Leo Jacoby: > ::https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/127232.On_Revolution:: (On Revolution by Hannah Arendt; Jonathan Schell, Introduction)
> ::https://ijps.stb.iau.ir/article_543600_48308ac941b3bb11eefce3eb4d4fcaee.pdf:: (The Position of the Concept of Revolution in Hannah
Arendt's Political Thought by Erfan Ahangari, Seyyed Khodayar Mortazavi 2018)
01:19:43 Zoom user: OH! CLUSTER BOMBS! I hope Ukraine never uses them.
01:20:07 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: I get to go to a dentist. Thank You God for all of you PeaceMakers. Join our Wednesday PeaceMakers Circles meeting 10 am pacific. Connect with me if you’d like to join us. :)
01:20:51 Irina Abramson: I am going to have to go. Thank you to everyone for the conversation. Dzvenyslava, thank you for joining this group and sharing your experience - I could hear how hard it was for you to talk about it!
01:23:06 Barbara Leger: I have another meeting in person in a few minutes but happy to be here for this
01:26:27 Leo Jacoby: Society organized like a beehive (non hierarchial)
> ::https://wikifarmer.com/honey-bee-society-structure-and-organization/::
> ::https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/leaders-necessary-lessons-from-beehive-erik-brown/:: (by Erik Brown, Executive Leader, IT Architect, Author, Speaker, beekeeper November 24, 2018)
> ::https://elearningindustry.com/what-can-bees-teach-us-about-teamwork::
> ::https://learn.tearfund.org/en/resources/footsteps/footsteps-41-50/footsteps-43/the-beehive-model-for-team-building:: (by Chiku Malunga. 2000)
> ::https://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/publication/IN1102:: (THE SOCIAL ORGANIZATION OF HONEY BEES by Ashley N. Mortensen, Bryan Smith, and James D. Ellis)
01:26:30 Paul Flansburg: Sorry I’ve been very distracted. Peace experiencing points are lost on me. Will Humanity Rising lend its voice to prohibiting us funding and supplying war in ukraine?
01:29:43 Paul Flansburg: Who’s equally “in need of US military support”? Palestine? Afghanistan? Are we really saying this effort in Ukraine is the ONE TIME USA involvement is necessary?
01:31:46 Paul Flansburg: Sure, let’s say Putin is evil. What about his soldiers? Kill them all like our republican senator Lindsay Graham wants?
01:32:00 Hyacinth Oesterlin: good questions
01:32:57 Paul Flansburg: Hyacinth, what did you think of her using MLK to support the war effort?
01:34:00 Paul Flansburg: Using MLK to support war is negating his message.
01:34:23 Barbara Leger: barbara@goldenpathofpeace.org
01:35:15 Hyacinth Oesterlin: didn´t see it. but MLK was about PEACE: STOP THE WAR
01:35:24 Barbara Leger: paul you ask important questions
01:35:26 Leo Jacoby: ::https://huri.harvard.edu/news/ukraines-struggle-future-oriented-identity-qa-mykola-riabchuk:: (February 6, 2019 "Two Ukraines" Reconsidered)
01:35:35 Dzvenyslava: ::https://www.linkedin.com/in/dzvenyslava-novakivska-575b8319/::
01:36:44 Barbara Leger: Dzvenyslava do you have another email not linked in?
01:37:31 Paul Flansburg: Dzv US empire is an animal I can’t recommend.
01:41:32 Dzvenyslava: funki.dzvinka@gmail.com
01:42:46 Paul Flansburg: Even the ww2 efforts neglected the Jews during the Holocaust. It was never our intention to end it. Now the nation of Israel unites in oppression Semitic tribes that are Muslim. Who is anti semitic here? There are consequences to attaining things through violent force.
01:44:33 Paul Flansburg: When will someone offer negotiations that will spare the planet nuclear Armageddon?
01:44:36 Kat Haber: SO well said, Barbara!
01:45:09 Paul Flansburg: China tried, but China has to be considered our enemy.
01:47:58 Kat Haber: “Answer is in the possibility! We heal our heart with our government we deserved, with our children. Beloved planet & humanity, get off our duff and stand up at city hall be respectful. Listen more. Difficult dialogues with leaders on various sides. Seek understanding. Have to find our humanity and take that to the front lines. Humanity fully anchored in what we believe. Great gift called life, give it our best. Give up being mad. Use righteously, look for solutions. Care. Crazy neighbor, respond sympathetically.”
01:48:43 Kat Haber: DO not succumb to hatred. Boomerang effect do not wish evil on them, just move out of the way for that energy to return where it came from.
01:50:01 Kat Haber: Hyacinth” pray for spiritual enlightenment for a clear light to illuminate.
01:50:45 Leo Jacoby: > ::https://www.wilsoncenter.org/blog-post/future-ukraines-political-consensus:: (By Oleh Haiko on May 10, 2023)
> ::https://www.state.gov/russias-strategic-failure-and-ukraines-secure-future/:: (SPEECH by ANTONY J. BLINKEN, SECRETARY OF STATE
HELSINKI CITY HALL JUNE 2, 2023)
> ::https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9224262/:: (Differences in Time Perspectives Measured under the Dramatically Changing Socioeconomic Conditions during the Ukrainian Political Crises in 2014/2015 2022)
> ::https://www.brookings.edu/articles/lessons-from-ukraine/:: (by Constanze Stelzenmüller FEBRUARY 24 2023)
> ::https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2022/12/ukraines-reconstruction-must-be-green-inclusive-and-technology-driven/:: (Nataliya Katser-Buchkovska, Member of Parliament of Ukraine (2014-2019), Co-founder and CEO, Ukrainian Sustainable Fund Dec 2, 2022)
01:50:46 Leo Jacoby: > ::http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/66181:: (Article by Vladimir Putin ”On the Historical Unity of Russians and Ukrainians“
July 12, 2021)
> ::https://ip-quarterly.com/en/ukraines-fight-also-fight-wests-future:: (by Iryna Solonenko Apr 13, 2022)
> ::https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/articles/what-putin-fears-most/:: (by Robert Person, Michael McFaul April 2022)
01:52:39 Dzvenyslava: Replying to "IMG_6725.jpeg"
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01:57:35 kathryn davison: Replying to "IMG_6725.jpeg"
Super cute!
01:57:49 Leo Jacoby: (ALL) War is a waste and crime against the planet. Whether conducted by states, non-states, empires... postpones a global conscipusness. Are we willing to sacrifice our allegiance to a nation and become planetary citizens, resisting war in all its forms?
01:58:17 Barbara Leger: what we resist persist
01:59:55 kathryn davison: Replying to "(ALL) War is a waste..."
We must ask Putin first, no?
02:00:21 Barbara Leger: Buckminster fuller said: you don't change reality by fighting against it . if you want to change reality, create a new model and the old one will fall away.
02:00:33 Kat Haber: Will we be able to respond with sufficient urgency to our human caused climate crisis if we continue to siphon off resources, funds, attention to war?
02:02:49 Paul Flansburg: Ukraine wants US military help. Who else has the US military helped, WWII aside?
02:03:10 Paul Flansburg: Mines. That’s current US help.
02:04:05 kathryn davison: Glad you said that #Paul — this is not help
02:04:14 Kat Haber: Freedom is costing the lives of millions in so many curves of Earth right now: Burma, Ukraine, so many colonially created countries in Africa. So sad that forest bathing is now not possible due to landmines! Hold humanity accountable. During inhumane conditions. Breathing…
02:06:41 Leo Jacoby: Are we willing to give up our oil-based economy for which wars in Iraq, Ukraine?, et. al. are waged? Cf. ::https://www.cnn.com/2013/03/19/opinion/iraq-war-oil-juhasz/index.html:: (Why the war in Iraq was fought for Big Oil by Antonia Juhasz,
April 15, 2013)
02:09:06 Hyacinth Oesterlin: i have to go now. Blessings and Love
02:09:14 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.cnbc.com/2023/03/03/oil-companies-bring-in-200-billion-in-profits-in-2022.html::
02:09:33 Paul Flansburg: #dzv. I’m sorry. I have to be critical of the US hegemonic military efforts and how it imbues relations, humanity, biomes. I imagine it hurts to hear when it’s seems an immediate hope.
02:10:10 Dzvenyslava: Replying to "i have to go now. Bl..."
Thank you for your empathy and for staying so long
02:10:37 diana: Live healthy and happy, Hyacinth ❤️
02:10:39 kathryn davison: Replying to "i have to go now. Bl..."
Really good to have your voice here.
02:12:11 kathryn davison: Thank you must go for now.
02:12:37 Hyacinth Oesterlin: one of my great wishes is that Countries will be allowed to carve out their own destiny, no longer to be dictated to: "We´re watching you to see you vote and there will bre consequencies." Nickey Haley at theUN some years ago.
02:12:56 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7471716/:: (World wars and the age of oil: Exploring directionality in deep energy transitions by
Phil Johnstone and Caitriona McLeish 2020)
02:14:39 Leo Jacoby: > ::https://www.accenture.com/us-en/insights/energy/ukraine-oil-gas:: (The war in Ukraine: A moment of reckoning for the oil and gas industry MAY 11, 2022)
02:15:26 Kat Haber: Depends on where you live regarding recycling. It is in fact happening in many places.
02:17:06 Kat Haber: Regarding stats/facts of recycling in USA: ::https://www.statista.com/topics/1275/recycling-in-the-united-states/#topicOverview::
02:17:32 Paul Flansburg: Replying to "one of my great wish…"
Right! Consequences to opposing US hegemony
02:17:35 Barbara Leger: look for the good and amplify it
02:24:00 Leo Jacoby: Links file for today (clisck to save before chat closes)
02:27:59 Bob Hayes: Stan. Why is the afterchat zoom address now 'scrubbed and no longer appears on the daily announcements from Humanity Rising?
02:28:55 Bob Hayes: Thanks Leo for collecting the links! 🌲😎🌲
02:29:26 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: Replying to "Thanks Leo for colle..."
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02:31:38 Hyacinth Oesterlin: The Link to the After Chat is back with the Zoom sending
02:32:15 Shawnda - Earth Mother Network: Replying to "The Link to the Afte..."
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02:35:15 Leo Jacoby: Paul, paste this is a text file and save for reference: You can join the After Chat here:
Meeting ID:
810 4561 3451
Passcode:
919541
02:38:32 Paul Flansburg: I gotta go..
02:39:34 diana: Thanks for all your legitimate criticism; Paul
02:40:33 Dzvenyslava: Thank you Paul. I feel and understand your pain. Thank you for voicing up
02:43:46 Paul Flansburg: Many times recently, I find the only response is to “have the patience of God.” That sounds audacious, but if we believe God has patience with us, we can endeavor to respond in kind.
02:44:21 Dzvenyslava: Stanly I want to thank yo for carrying those circles of discussions/ I know the price of such a full heart volunteering. So I want to send my appreciation for whole that Big job
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