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11:01:42 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Hello HR friends! Good Morning ;)
11:03:47 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Good morning! Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:04:15 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Hi Tom. Remember to start the session by introducing yourself so everyone knows the wonderful you … and that you’re convening in Jim’s absence.
11:06:19 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Hello, welcome to Day 742 of Humanity Rising
11:07:16 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Renaissance Woman! Hope she studied with Diane Musho Hamilton…
11:08:02 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Jim created today’s invitation to HR. I expected him back, though it’s great Tom could be here in his absence. Does anyone know when is Jim returning?
11:08:36 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Jim has a head cold and asked Tom to jump in today
11:08:56 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
He’ll be back asap
11:09:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Give him our best please, Georg. Wish him well!
11:10:32 From Paul Flansburg to Host and Panelists:
Can I just say, our guests English is impeccable. I’m only fluent in English.
11:10:51 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
Stan, my tech needs help. Going to the shop when it opens.
11:14:03 From Tom Eddington to Mary Thorp_WV, Host and Panelists:
Thank you Mary. If I’m back tomorrow, I’ll do a better job.
11:15:28 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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Welcome to Humanity Rising
With Love...
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11:16:28 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Freedom of speech like Julian Assange?
11:16:33 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
In most cases mentioned, I can offer how they are employed for US propaganda.
11:16:43 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spiral_Dynamics
11:17:11 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
How often do we confuse freedom with power?
11:18:32 From Richard Page to Everyone:
As I recall, facism was popular in the USA before WW2. Gov. Thomas Dewey among others…
11:19:45 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
The Dewey who “beat” Truman?
11:20:15 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
The color red is hard to find in the map being shown. Most of the map is colored green blue and brown.
11:20:42 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
Eugenics. Eugenics did not start with Hitler. It was a popular, accepted movement in both Britain and the USA, before Hitler. It was very socially accepted in the 20s, at least.
11:21:19 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
https://jthowlett.medium.com/using-spiral-dynamics-to-understand-development-930098e8f092
11:22:31 From Richard Page to Everyone:
eugenics, yes, and the funding of the Nazi steel industry for their war machines by the original Senator Bush..
11:28:26 From Mark Babson to Everyone:
the Dutch still occupy the Antilles-- Curacao, Aruba, and Bonaire
11:30:16 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
Lost audio for a couple of seconds
11:30:40 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
Yes
11:31:05 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
And my screen has changed!
11:32:25 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
Stan, you here?
11:32:37 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Yes
11:33:09 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
I. I won’t join the AfterChat today. Have to go to tech shop
11:33:42 From Stan Pokras to Shannon McArthur, Host and Panelists:
OK, Thanks for the heads up.
11:36:43 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
Sounds like another modern day Country!!
11:40:45 From Paul Flansburg to Host and Panelists:
Fall of the wall made Reagan (NEOLIBERAL) an instant hero.
11:40:53 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
> https://spiraldynamics.org/
> https://www.thenextevolution.com/spiral-dynamics/ (an overview, articles, books, videos and links related to the developmental psychology framework, Spiral Dynamics)
> https://thegreatupdraft.com/what-is-spiral-dynamics/ (Spiral Dynamics For Newbies: The 8 Stages + More (Inc. Test) by Ross Edwards January 31, 2023)
> https://spiraldynamics.org/about/what/
> https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/204687 (Spiral Dynamics: Mastering Values, Leadership and Change by Don Edward Beck, Christopher C. Cowan 2005)
> https://fourweekmba.com/spiral-dynamics/ (Spiral Dynamics In A Nutshell - Business / By Gennaro Cuofano / April 26, 2023)
> https://www.eupedia.com/psychology/spiral_dynamics_the_evolution_of_human_cultures.shtml (by Maciamo Hay July/August 2020)
> https://www.thenextevolution.com/spiral-dynamics/
11:41:04 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
Videos:
> https://www.thenextevolution.com/spiral-dynamics/ (2:06:18 The Next Evolution · Actualized.org · May 21, 2015)
> https://thegreatupdraft.com/what-is-spiral-dynamics/ (27:28 Master Spiral Dynamics: How Learning This Theory Can TRAP You)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLhlgUtwvVU (32:07 Spiral Dynamics Explained by Marco Sander)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=23aDNBvn_2g (1:26:42 The Grand Model Of Psychological Evolution - Clare Graves & Spiral Dynamics 2015)
11:44:24 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
We were never able to appreciate Gorbachev. Sad he died almost in obscurity.
11:45:24 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Dutch were slave traders before the Brits…
11:45:52 From Richard Page to Everyone:
What is the vMeme color for women getting at least equal air time?
11:45:56 From Paul Flansburg to Host and Panelists:
Jeffrey Sachs praises Gorbachev.
11:46:44 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasnost
> https://soviethistory.msu.edu/1985-2/perestroika-and-glasnost/ (by Lewis Siegelbaum)
11:49:24 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
Wasn’t Yeltsin a US puppet?
11:49:28 From Richard Page to Everyone:
and the ‘disaster capitalists’ bought up the USSR peoples’ assets for pennies on the dollar…
11:50:04 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:
Yes
11:50:09 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
I do recall NPR saying Putin was responsible for the apartment explosions.
11:52:17 From Leah Redmond to Everyone:
I wonder do we ever rise to a place where we no longer have or need to be governed?
11:52:18 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
hmmmmm …… state owned media …...
11:52:46 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
Propaganda. We need to evaluate this as it exists in USA/west also.
11:54:24 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
NATO was supposed to be dissolved after the end of the Cold War
11:55:02 From Richard Page to Everyone:
EU has no collective foreign policy except that dictated by USA
11:55:34 From Paul Flansburg to Host and Panelists:
“Democracies” controlled by US interests, yes?
11:55:40 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
> https://time.com/5512665/mikhail-gorbachev-glasnost-perestroika/
> https://www.jstor.org/stable/1046656 (Glasnost - The Dawn of Freedom? by Richard Schifter 1989)
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=femvIHkVQG8 (8:57 Perestroika & Glasnost - The End of the Soviet Union @Simplehistory)
> https://www.rand.org/content/dam/rand/pubs/notes/2009/N3008.pdf (Glasnost and Soviet Foreign Policy by Lilita Dzirkals January 1990)
> https://scholarworks.umt.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=3477&context=etd (Glasnost| The Pandora's box of Gorbache x of Gorbachev's reforms by Judy Marie Sylvest 1999 126 pp.)
11:55:53 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:
any Leader who tries to bring order from chaos, having to take unpopular decisions, gets criticism and others try to seize an advantage
11:59:01 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
“Human rights.” Our oligarchy denies them to others in other countries, also, denies rights in USA more and more.
11:59:29 From Carroy Ferguson to Everyone:
In my humble view, from a very broad perspective, I suggest that behind all the individual & collective, conflict dramas we create, there is a “primary human challenge.” That challenge is a dynamic tension, flowing from the creative urge for freedom “to be” who we truly are in our current physical form, and simultaneously to embrace our responsibility for our Being-ness. Freedom and responsibility are flip sides of the same coin. However, when we embrace our responsibility as a Creator or Co-Creator with free will, there is no one to blame. Hence, the dynamic tension. Here’s a link to a brief article I wrote back in 2008. https://www.academia.edu/7522395/A_Primary_Human_Challenge
12:01:02 From Richard Page to Everyone:
What, Paul, you consider 14 states passing laws making protest of pipelines crossing indigenous lands worthy of a 10-year jail term as denying human rights? You betcha!
12:01:10 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Yes, indeed. The WEST is literally morally and financially bankrupt! Our constant legacy of US imperialism is now destroying the WEST from WITHIN.
12:03:41 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
The list of Humanity Rising episodes can be seen as addressing the conflict in Ukra
12:04:08 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
I’ve heard different things about orange revolution
12:05:14 From Kateryna Yasko to Everyone:
Just for the matter of clarity: Orange Revolution and Revolution of Dignity are different revolutions separated by a decade of time.
12:05:19 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
What about DEB NEULAND’S phone call?
12:06:13 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
Yea kateryna, I need to hear more about this.
12:06:50 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
While we have attempted to categorize the Humanity Rising episodes with this list https://othernetworks.org/Category:Issue-Russia
12:07:01 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Cuf - the transformation of our species, our real growth and maturity will require an acceptance of responsibility, you are SO right! Freedom with out responsibility is only power.
12:08:30 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
We also have tried to categorize the episodes referencing Ukraine https://othernetworks.org/Category:Issue-Ukraine
12:08:33 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
We don’t have to be Putin fans to criticize US hegemony.
12:09:43 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:
Crimea was Russian until Kruschev transferred Crimea to Ukraine in 1954. The people of Crimea were mostly Russian#
12:09:55 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
Azov Battalion are NAZI’s , yes?
12:10:20 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
If you care about how we as fans of Humanity Rising see the events of the last decade, please help correct the categories I have chosen for the lists I posted above.
12:10:50 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Sec of State Baker promised that but did not sign paper. Gotta hand it to Jim to include other opinions from his own
12:11:19 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
Jeffrey Sachs has record of a promise. I guess we never gave it in writing?
12:12:17 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Bring Jeff Sachs on! He also has deeply researched opinions favoring lab origins of Covid
12:12:47 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
I just wish we could spread democracy in the US. We’re going in the other direction.
12:13:43 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
We have little time left today. WHAT can we do to ameliorate this issue?
12:14:18 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
Europe has "united" because These People only watch MSM "news"
12:14:41 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
War is evil. Both sides commit atrocities. Chris Hedges says so.
12:15:03 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
Correct, Paul
12:15:10 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Paul, I have some ideas about democracy and politics in the U.S. please contact me to discuss - stan@othernetworks.org 267-968=0407
12:15:34 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
By appreciating the depth of this comprehensive historical presentation!
12:15:52 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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12:15:57 From jiyun park to Everyone:
Russian trading with Brazil China India as largest populations strategic geopolitical markets related to media propaganda of leadership with former US leader.
12:16:10 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
Not One Inch: America, Russia, and the Making of Post-Cold War Stalemate by Mary Sarotte 2021
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_One_Inch_(book)
> https://www.wilsoncenter.org/event/not-one-inch-america-russia-and-making-post-cold-war-stalemate
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG3SeHuFke0 (1:32:35 Not One Inch: America, Russia, and the Making of Post-Cold War Stalemate
12:16:27 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:
Declassified documents reveal US Secretary of State James Baker made the statement about NATO not moving one inch further East
12:16:29 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
I’m sad. Evil interest’s corrupt “both sides.” We’re all on one side.
12:18:06 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Everyone wants the best for our families. When we focus on commonalities we help more people. We know that our best chance is through dialogue. This has been proven to work in so many fields. It will also work in the political arena when using mediation practices. Let the proof be found in the pudding!
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12:18:23 From Paul Hillery to Host and Panelists:
STAN, the MAN, I hear you and plan to contact you about many things. But This will have to wait, unfortuenalely or not
12:18:38 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
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12:18:43 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Previous slide please with links to resources?
12:19:10 From jiyun park to Everyone:
Grateful!
12:19:47 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:
Ah well, our guy is the good guy with only good and noble intentions, the other guy is pure evil.
12:19:48 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
What role has religion played in this history?
12:19:57 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
THANK YOU Auke! for your extraordinary, astute, comprehensive, presentation today. An immense contribution to Humanity Rising! So deeply appreciated!!!
12:20:28 From Paul Hillery to Host and Panelists:
I have my family in from Singapore for the next weeks, but will get back to you when they can leave.
12:21:53 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Auke and Kateryna Please send me materials with links that you would like to have included in our reporting about this episode. We pubish the recording that will happen shortly with the AfterChat people. Send me your email addrree to receive the links.
12:22:49 From Paul Flansburg to Host and Panelists:
Yes! War torn, and not the first time!
12:23:37 From Stan Pokras to Paul Flansburg, Host and Panelists:
Please send your comments to “Everyone”
12:24:03 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
So much of “THEN & THERE,” As we are “HERE & NOW,” What is something today that all the viewers can DO to BRING “Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace?”
12:24:13 From Paul Flansburg to Host and Panelists:
I made a mistake. Sent to everyone?
12:25:24 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I’m so glad you’re here. We’ve been asking for you, or someone like you, here in the chat. Though not loudly enough. Thank you for saying. You’re welcome, and thank you for coming.
12:28:12 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Thanks for your life’s work for a thriving life for all. Together in collaboration, coagulation, and dialogue, we get to prompt the world back into thriving for ALL our relations.
Kurt Krueger, AnotherU, PeaceMakersCircles at gmail.com
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12:29:17 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Kateryna, your Ukrainian voice is urgent, vital, important, and YES - 100% conspicuously MISSING in the WEST - buried by endless ignorance, arrogance, and imperialistic propaganda. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COURAGEOUS DEEP ASTUTE TRUTH TELLING. Hearing your voice and experience is precious and unforgettable!
12:30:01 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
Bertrand Russell, one of my favorite philosophers (my mother's favorites) was into "free sex", but responsibitily along with his rest. KATERYNA's right.
12:30:23 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:
good to see Humanity Rising finally bringing a WHOLE-istic perspective to this subject matter. At least to bring some balance to Jim Garrison's being such a Putin apologist.
12:31:23 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:
Yes, I have been worried both by the Humanity Rising session on Ukraine and the one about China not being a threat. Neither felt very balanced.
12:31:47 From jiyun park to Everyone:
Grateful and hear your vital voicing millions here. I lived in South Korea when fathers disappeared for speaking out. Thanks 🙏
12:33:46 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Yes - how EVIL scales! MLK stated it this way: Evil persists when the silent majority does nothing.
12:35:11 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
Links and sources recommended by Auke:
https://www.youtube.com/c/1420channel (Dr. Vlad Vexler — Philosophy and political theory - Russian born YouTuber, his work on YouTube
YouTube channel 1420 gives an uncensored view into life of ordinary Russians and their opinions)
https://medium.com/n/efd03a98e6d0 (Auke van Nimwegen - Article on Ukraine revolution of Dignity)
https://tec.fsi.stanford.edu/docs/aleksandr-dugins-foundations-geopolitics (Aleksandr Dugin's Foundation of Geopolitics)
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/policy/1939/1939-10-06a.html (Hitler's speech after invading Poland)
https://ukraine.un.org/en/201055-report-human-rights-situation-ukraine (UN Human Rights report Ukraine)
https://www.hrw.org/world-report/2023/country-chapters/ukraine (Human RIghts Watch)
https://www.ohchr.org/en/news/2023/06/ukraine-civilian-casualty-update-5-june-2023 (UN Human Rights)
https://www.hrw.org/news/2023/05/25/fresh-details-russias-forcible-transfer-ukrainian-children (by Elly Bleier May 25, 2023)
12:35:49 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:
PLEASE! there are always TWO sides to any conflict! WAR IS HELL! How many wars have there been in the last 100 years? A personal account of the suffering during a war is painful to experience.
12:35:58 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
YES, Power WITH! INclusive. As is our inherent nature.
12:36:33 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Pacifying Kills… and important statement…
12:36:45 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
Power With can make all the difference
12:37:55 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
You had my heart till I was in “friendship with Russia.” Plus, arming for peace against peace.
12:38:11 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Tour de force. Thank you for speaking.
12:38:26 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
Thank you, Hyacinth
12:38:32 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
"You do not have to obtain Love from outside by difficult practices. Its springs lie within. Let your heart overflow with Love. Let your Love be all encompassing. If you continue to live Love, more of it will be released within. The more you give, the more you will have. He who gives Love is greeted everywhere by Love.
"Love is present within you, giving ever new experiences. Think about the peace of deep sleep. Find out from where this super sensuous contentment arises. What is the source of joy in meeting a friend? Where does the pleasure of beautiful sights originate? From whence does the spontaneous sense of fullness spring when your mind is at rest? If you contemplate these questions, you will find that sublime Joy, also called Bliss, lies hidden within you. That truly is Love. Therefore, worship Love. Show only scenes of Love to the witness behind your eyes. Let your behavior be full of Love. Let your Love for cows, dogs, trees, flowers and fruit grow each day, as Love is the basis of all. ~ Muktananda
12:38:33 From Astrid Ståhlberg to Everyone:
Thank you very, very much…. GREAT !!!! Love to you
12:38:36 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
I am crying.
12:39:16 From Jane Norton to Everyone:
Grateful for your courage in challenging what was presented before today on HR.
12:39:20 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Thank You God for this hearty, intelligent sharing. Please join us in the AfterChat
12:39:21 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:
Thank you for your voices. We need to hear them also.
12:39:21 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Kateryns is not expected tomorrow. She will be on again on Wednesday.
12:39:40 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:
Difficult to love Kurt, when your friends are being raped.
12:39:44 From kathryn davison to Host and Panelists:
Many thanks for this intelligent and informed group of statements from the heart of this conflict.
12:39:59 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
KATRAYNA is primate. Everything she talks about is Crucial. I know al of us on Humanity Rising are into peace, but we need to make a more stable world before we can talk about it -
12:40:05 From Kateryna Yasko to Everyone:
A wonderful Ukrainian speaker and close friend of mine will be with you tomorrow. Please join!
12:40:10 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
An extraordinary presentation Kateryna! THANK YOU! YOUR Deep, passionate, truth-telling presentation, is so profoundly appreciated!!!🌹🌹🌹
12:40:12 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
thank you deeply!! We are in the alert mode.
12:40:17 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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12:40:59 From Kateryna Yasko to Everyone:
Thank you, friends, for your attention and words of support. See you in Wednesday
12:41:39 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
How could anyone say “there’s alway 2 sides to war”? It only takes one bully to put your face in the dirt.
12:41:54 From Linda to Everyone:
Katerina - can you share your email with us?
12:42:08 From Kateryna Yasko to Everyone:
kateryna@uintegral.com
12:42:12 From Linda to Everyone:
Kateryna
12:42:19 From kathryn davison to Everyone:
Kateryna thank you very much for your statements.
12:42:29 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Sorry I missed that. I would have said so at the time.
12:42:29 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
I commend Auke's very clear presentation with sources and Kateryna's passionate rebuttal from personal experience.
12:44:26 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
"WAR IS A RACKET" by Smedley Butler (1933) - a highly decorated US Military leader! An illuminating insight about all war. Decide for yourself,
12:44:49 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
But Hitler was into the Superman, Wellness, Vegan lifestyle, Women's Empowerment (someone had to run the factories while the man were away at war), We are going through a flashback.
12:45:41 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Ahhh, it is perspectives that was intended… not faults or causes to conflict. There are multitudes of perspectives, and we need to hear as many as possible!
12:47:47 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
When emotional, it is too easy to say words passionately that can convey incorrect intent.
12:48:25 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Bring more Ukrainians to Humanity Rising — Please!
12:48:36 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
All your points are true. However, the US invaded IRAQ on bogus US Intelligence. 100% lies about WMD. We killed 500,000 Iraqi children and called it "collateral damage"??? A TRUE GENOCIDE. Another illegal, immoral, unjust, unconstitutional, obscenely costly war.
12:48:46 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Stan, please repost post zoom link
12:48:57 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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12:48:59 From jiyun park to Everyone:
Thanks so much clear ones. Thanks for powerful voicing of truth to power. Transforming your insights into relationship with Ukrainian and other cultural genocide keeping alive their memories. We can remember.
There are Japanese Americans whose toll by Japanese military was problematic as they served as American military.
Policy by Powell Memo corporate America different from “Americans” as spectral as anywhere.
Heart maths inc based humans.
Love to you and yours. Ukrainian family in Michigan was adored. Thanks 🙏
12:49:05 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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12:49:29 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Superb presentations from both of you!
12:49:47 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Bless you, and all your friends, and mine…
12:50:18 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
GETTING Practical
12:50:18 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Send me your email address to receive the Chat !!!
12:50:35 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Well said Auke!!!
12:50:41 From Auke van Nimwegen to Everyone:
auke@nimwegen.org
12:51:13 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Thank you!
12:51:26 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
mind Openind!!! Thank you
12:51:49 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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12:51:58 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
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