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Humanity Rising Day 464 After Chat – Wednesday April 27, 2022
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00:02:05 Stanley Pokras: This is the AfterChat for Day 464
00:04:18 Stanley Pokras: Please send me your email address or post publicly to start receiving our daily report of links to this AfterChat and the main Humanity Rising program.
00:05:16 Stanley Pokras: Stan@othernetworks.org
00:07:15 George Friday, she/they: geo4realdem@gmail.com
00:08:27 dan@permatrail.org: how many cities use rev? is there a list anywhere?
00:08:33 dan@permatrail.org: rcv
00:09:38 Heather Tischbein: Here’s a video re an indigenous perspective on We the People ::https://www.ted.com/talks/mark_charles_the_truth_behind_we_the_people_the_three_most_misunderstood_words_in_us_history:: It’s also my experience that most white people I know personally don’t want to/ aren’t ready to talk about.
00:10:19 dan@permatrail.org: Off topic chatting can be off putting sometimes.
00:11:27 Heather Tischbein: And from a deep listening perspective, at least for me, attending to the chat interferes with full presence. So I mostly ignore it.
00:11:57 dan@permatrail.org: Stole is maybe an overly harsh description. Information wants to be free.
00:13:15 Heather Tischbein: Learning about the “Doctrine of Discovery” would be one way to do this inquiry as John is suggesting.
00:14:55 dan@permatrail.org: Most people would be shocked about the details of that Papal Bull!
00:15:11 Heather Tischbein: Stephen Newcombe and Joe DeGoudy would be good references as well.
00:16:23 Clare: I just sent Kevin my email and I'll send it to anyone who wants it Clare Rosenfield crosenfield9@gmail.com
00:16:55 Heather Tischbein: Stephen Newcomb info: ::https://doctrineofdiscovery.org/the-doctrine-of-discovery-unmasking-the-domination-code/::
00:17:09 Kurt Krueger: We could have a Truth and Reconciliation Commission for Indigenous and the Slaved peoples. In All countries.
00:19:54 dan@permatrail.org: starting meetings with indigenous land acknowledgement is a growing trend for many meetings.
00:20:18 Leo Jacoby: thanks John for a great week
00:20:24 dan@permatrail.org: good work john
00:22:19 Clare: 914-705-2230 cell; 914-761-7682 landline for Clare Rosenfield crosenfield9@gmail.com
00:22:52 dan@permatrail.org: The Catholic Church needs to consider a 1494 Restoration Project. I think that's why they are still the worlds biggest landowner.
00:23:05 Kurt Krueger: Paul Majid is outstanding
00:23:58 dan@permatrail.org: the Progressive Henry George Land Value Tax idea would also heal things with inequality.
00:24:47 Heather Tischbein: htischbein@hotmail.com 970-210-8302
00:26:21 dan@permatrail.org: Transparency and Accountability are prerequisites for civilized society. AKA Rule of Law and Due Process.
00:27:27 dan@permatrail.org: Community Land Trusts
00:31:24 Kurt Krueger: Three sources the extreme value Indigenous wisdom and power of the Feminine side of the Taoist coin.
SACRED INSTRUCTIONS by Sherri Mitchell. BLENDS INDIGENOUS WISDOM FOR LIVING THE LIFE WE WERE ALL MEANT TO LEAD - one of compassion and peace. Using Science, Regenerative agriculture, Feminine/Masculine, Spirituality, and Societal change...
ANOTHER connector with nature is The Four Sacred Gifts, a great book by an indigenous elder, Anita Sanchez - Forgiving the Unforgivable is the first of The Four Sacred Gifts,
Braiding Sweetgrass, Robin Kimmerer’s journey that is every bit as mythic as it is scientific, as sacred as it is historical. the awakening of ecological consciousness requires the acknowledgment and celebration of our reciprocal relationship with the rest of the living world.
"Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect." ~Chief Seattle
00:32:06 Kurt Krueger: Judge not lest ye be judged
00:32:13 Leo Jacoby: ::https://u1lib.org/book/17812910/b4bc6e:: (Sand Talk by Tyson Yunkaporta EPUB, 319 KB)
00:32:46 dan@permatrail.org: the Fall in the Garden of Eden was the Knowledge of "Usefulness" vs. "Uselessness"
00:33:06 Heather Tischbein: Thanks, Leo.
00:33:19 dan@permatrail.org: Truth and RESTORATION
00:33:43 Leo Jacoby: ::https://u1lib.org/book/13039695/052033:: (Sacred Instructions: Indigenous Wisdom for Living Spirit-Based Change by Sherri Mitchell 2018 EPUB, 1.41 MB)
00:34:29 dan@permatrail.org: I love city level permaculture such as edenicity.org
00:35:15 Kurt Krueger: Dan, look up Our Heart Gardens and Shannon McArthur
00:36:30 Leo Jacoby: ::https://u1lib.org/book/21003561/a4b397:: (Braiding Sweetgrass: Indigenous Wisdom, Scientific Knowledge and the Teachings of Plants by Robin Kimmerer 2013 EPUB, 921 KB)
00:36:56 dan@permatrail.org: thanks heather
00:37:08 Heather Tischbein: htischbein@hotmail.com 970-210-8302
00:37:59 Clare: I also have a new children's story in press THE STORY OF LILIANA: A Brave Indigenous Child
00:39:17 dan@permatrail.org: I need to see a chat archive because this MacBook won't do copy paste for some reason....
00:39:51 Stanley Pokras: 267-968-0407
00:39:52 Kurt Krueger: 1-818-399-0771 Kurt Krueger
00:39:58 dan@permatrail.org: I can be called at 805-908-9213 as well
00:40:51 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.edenicity.com/::
00:41:34 dan@permatrail.org: ham call sign is KK6VDR too
00:43:45 dan@permatrail.org: 30 by 30 movement is great too
00:44:00 dan@permatrail.org: 30% of land for Nature by 2030
00:45:29 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfQij4aQq1k:: (12:36 Unbreaking America: Solving the Corruption Crisis with Represent.Us board member Jennifer Lawrence and Director of Represent.Us Josh Silver)
00:46:39 Stanley Pokras: ::https://othernetworks.org/Pyramid_and_the_Pool::
00:49:35 dan@permatrail.org: schools should do that experiment!
00:50:35 dan@permatrail.org: yes! PermaTrail is a big art project too!
00:50:39 Kurt Krueger: AUTHENTICITY, AND MEDITATION
01:01:14 Leo Jacoby: ::https://represent.us/unbreaking-america-series/:: (THE FULL UNBREAKING AMERICA SERIES-4 videos)
01:02:32 Leo Jacoby: ::https://u1lib.org/book/2936899/569e65:: (Viking Economics: How the Scandinavians Got It Right – and How We Can, Too by George Lakey EPUB, 2.04 MB)
01:03:14 Leo Jacoby: Viking Economics 2016
01:06:15 dan@permatrail.org: what3words.com
01:06:49 dan@permatrail.org: bridgefy.com
01:07:00 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3shvPXo1iU:: (18:37 Joshua Lynn: "Preserving the White Man’s Republic")
01:09:38 Leo Jacoby: Link above is a different Joshua Lynn than the one we heard today in HR: ::https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshuagrahamlynn::
01:13:43 Leo Jacoby: ::https://thefulcrum.us/big-picture/Leadership/represent-us::
01:17:05 Leo Jacoby: ::https://thefulcrum.us/big-picture/Leadership/earth-day-2022:: (Pivot for the planet: From boundaries to horizons by Cindy Reinhardt April 22, 2022)
01:18:31 Leo Jacoby: ::https://what3words.com/clip.apples.leap:: (Now it’s easy to find and share any location with just three words)
01:19:43 Leo Jacoby: ::https://bridgefy.me/:: (Bridgefy is the app that lets you send offline text messages when you don’t have access to the Internet, by simply turning on Bluetooth. Perfect for connecting with others during natural disasters, at large events, and at school!)
01:24:42 Leo Jacoby: ::https://book4you.org/:: (Part of Z-Library project. The world's largest ebook library)
01:25:45 dan@permatrail.org: Daniel Emerson Twedt
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