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Humanity Rising Day 703 After Chat – Tuesday May 23, 2023
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00:02:25 Stanley Pokras: This is the AfterChat for Day 703
00:02:30 Mary Thorp_WV: Facebook:
2023 Gathering of Elders on the Mississippi River
00:02:35 Kat Haber: This was a beautiful session
00:04:00 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Sorry, I have to get off to record some PeaceMakers Circle programming. CU Manana
00:04:06 Leo Jacoby: Any opinion about Zombie Economics by John Quiggin 2010/2012?
00:05:09 Leo Jacoby: https://timjackson.org.uk/ecological-economics/pwg/ (Prosperity without growth by Tim Jackson)
http://sciencepolicy.colorado.edu/admin/publication_files/resource-2648-2005.80.pdf (on "cultural lag" William F. Ogburn 1922 )
https://www.journals.uchicago.edu/doi/abs/10.1086/217714 (An Answer to Criticisms of the Lag Concept by Abbott P. Herman)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cultural_lag
https://channelmcgilchrist.com/master-and-his-emissary/ (Iain McGilchrist The Master and His Emissary: the divided brain and the making of the Western world)
https://www.google.com/books/edition/The_Master_and_His_Emissary/alSIDwAAQBAJ (126 pp preview)
00:06:52 Mary Thorp_WV: When can I learn more about transformation capitalists
00:07:19 Shannon McArthur (she/her): This is where Mary is: https://www.facebook.com/groups/523515629893878/
00:07:30 Kat Haber: Enjoy John Quigley’s TEDxVail Talk on Responding creatively. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxQU9M3EhSM
00:07:35 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Good question, Mary!
00:10:17 Ian Kendrick: Is Transformations Catalysts
00:10:31 Ian Kendrick: Can talk about that if helpful.
00:11:20 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Better that, Ian, than transformation capitalists… Yes, please!
00:20:16 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Ian, you gotta share this on HR. Starts with Jim… See; sense-make; connect them together; help them cohere and then amplify.
00:21:17 Bob Hayes: Name of the author Sandra? Thx
00:21:17 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Can you get Sandra as your guest>
00:21:24 Shannon McArthur (she/her): ?
00:22:43 Stanley Pokras: Ian… I want to offer another ingredient to your Catalyst concept. I call that ingredient “Magnets for Conversation” At least we need magnets for conversation in the political arena.
00:23:09 Carol Sue Engleman-FB: This was in the vaccines and it did target those populations and the CDC put out protocols for treating Zombies (reference from todays targeting poor, people of color, and the old). The propaganda is so huge now they are starting a whole new campaign against all anti-vaxxers saying they are dangerous and need to be censored as they are getting ready to create a new illness and vax. They have just killed Dr Buttar and are using him as the jumping off point to stop his Convention at the end of May with best of Drs and Real Scientists including Dr. Bruce Lipton, and to stop both Bobby Kennedy and Trump and to amp up to change to vaccine passports and the New World Economy.
00:23:11 Leo Jacoby: https://sites.google.com/a/bc.edu/sandra-waddock-homepage/
00:23:58 Carol Sue Engleman-FB: The bad health is being caused by all the vaccines, a much bigger problem than the health care. We wouldn't need as much health care. I've studied this over 40 years and never been one safe vaccine! The polio vax caused soft tissue cancers 30 years later prostate, breast, lung, melanoma, & lymphoma which is the real pandemic and drain on health care. If we don't do anything about this we are complicit!
Look at the Disinformation Dozen and the dangers of this organization and Bobby Kennedy is #2 on the list!
00:25:36 Shannon McArthur (she/her): I believe caution is required when sweeping generalizations sweep away complex issues. I appreciate your points, though.
00:25:40 Leo Jacoby: https://www.romankrznaric.com/good-ancestor (The Good Ancestor: A Radical Prescription for Long-Term Thinking by Roman Krznaric. "Welcome to The Good Ancestor microsite, where you can find everything you need to become a long-term thinker, from videos and podcasts to graphics and data.")
00:30:09 Leo Jacoby: Links shared today - click to download before chat closes
00:35:23 Leo Jacoby: https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/science/articles/needle-points-vaccinations-chapter-one (Why so many are hesitant to get the COVID vaccines, and what we can do about it. BY
NORMAN DOIDGE OCTOBER 27, 2021)
00:39:20 Shannon McArthur (she/her): The post Needle Points Points on my new website: https://sonlightsparklingonthewaters.weebly.com/my-work-2day-blog/needle-points-points
00:40:07 Kat Haber: Parasitic…
00:40:36 Leo Jacoby: https://www.amazon.com/Tree-Knowledge-Biological-Roots-Understanding/dp/0877736421 (The Tree of Knowledge: The Biological Roots of Human Understanding Paperback – March 31, 1992 by Humberto R. Maturana and Francisco J. Varela)
00:40:50 Carol Sue Engleman-FB: "Dr. Mary's Monkey" By Edward T. Haslam
00:42:08 Ian Kendrick: www.metaphorum.org
00:42:20 Leo Jacoby: https://metaphorum.org/conference-2023
00:42:26 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Thanks, Leo!
00:42:30 Shannon McArthur (she/her): And Ian!
00:47:55 Leo Jacoby: https://archive.org/details/treeofknowledget00matu (borrow: The tree of knowledge : the biological roots of human understanding by Maturana, Humberto R., Varela, Francisco J., 1987)
00:50:10 Paul: I totally agree with Shannon! All thee wonderful people need to introduce each other with each other individually, so they can see how each serve Humanity Rising!
00:50:15 Kat Haber: I do appreciate our unique talents/curiosties/skills! Cast peeps rising!
00:50:17 Shannon McArthur (she/her): “Ethos-cohered community” = HR
00:50:39 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Paul, thank you!
00:51:55 Shannon McArthur (she/her): This is one of the best “stand-out” AfterChats ever!!
00:52:41 Shannon McArthur (she/her): The IRG Solution (book offered by Stan)
00:53:15 Leo Jacoby: https://unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000113565 (Globalization and information systems: new paradigms and new challenges by Miranda, Antonio 1998)
00:53:59 Ian Kendrick: iank1024@gmail.com
00:54:25 Shannon McArthur (she/her): I love you all!! Thank you so much for a GREAT session!
00:55:28 Leo Jacoby: > https://www.amazon.com/IRG-solution-Hierarchical-incompetence-overcome/dp/0285626620The IRG Solution: Hierarchical Incompetence and how to Overcome it By David Andrews · 1984
00:56:57 Leo Jacoby: updated ffile
00:57:37 Kat Haber: Thanks so very much!
00:57:47 Bob Hayes: Thanks Ian
Hope to see you again soon
00:57:48 Leo Jacoby: https://www.bouncebeyond.global/ian-kendrick
01:02:14 Bob Hayes: The Amazon link "can't be found"
IRG-solution-Hierarchical-incompetence-overcome
But the Internet Archive has a free copy:
https://archive.org/details/irgsolutionhiera0000andr
01:02:18 Leo Jacoby: https://www.h3uni.org/ (H3Uni is a new enterprise for transformative human learning. We offer practitioner methods that enable people to facilitate regenerative responses to urgent global issues that bear upon their local communities and organisations. We stand for a vision of a different kind of relationship between humans, life and the planet that we explore in the creative space of the future that we call the third horizon.)
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