HRChat Day Page QuickNotes

New HR Resources Page

Malini's New HR Resources Page

List of Pages

List of Day Pages

• List of Humanity Rising Day Pages
• Malini's Episodes List Page

The "What Links Here" for the Episode List Page

Task: Using link above, find where this Episode page/link is mentioned and change it to 'List of Day Pages', if makes sense.

Notes:

• Stan showed us how to easily use the 'List of Day Pages' to create new Day Pages, (see its source code).
• But we must first decide how to name them.
• If search for a Day, we do not want to see in search results the OneWord form, like Day136, as Stan explains.

Lists of Chat Pages:

• List of HR Chat Pages - Malini using to make HRChat pages.
• List of After Chat Pages - Malini using to make AfterChat pages.

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Naming Conventions

New Tool - List of Pages

Here is a New Tools:

• A spreadsheet to access a list of Titles AND also to easily change the naming convention for all Days/Rows on these List of Pages pages.
• Page Names Tool (a spreadsheet): I populated the List pages for perfectly consistent Name Convention form - from this Google Sheet here.

 

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Day Page Names

Update 12/6/2020 - Meeting with Stan and Malini:

• We are close to finalizing Day page Design; see Testing Day Page Design (temporarily on Template:S-HRDay). And also the Name...

Close to finalizing Day page Name and URL.

• Keep in mind, Malini has already made many Chat Pages with links back to Day page (before we knew the Day Page name patter)...and
• As we consider Stan's shortcut ideas in choosing Day Page names to fix issues with Chat pages created, note that ...
• Malini pointed out the Templates for the 2 different Chat page types - are different - so look at the source code to find ...
• Has Link : *Back to (DayPageTitle| Humanity Rising Day81 Science as a Radical Collabrative Endeavor) and
• Has Link : *Back to Humanity Rising Day 078

• Also has (in source code), a comment
• (!-- Replace contents of double brackets with name of the Day Page from https://othernetworks.org/List_of_Humanity_Rising_Day_Pages --)

1. After Chat: 'DayPageTitle' is in the url/naming convention maybe?
2. HR Chat: 'Humanity Rising Day 078' is in the url/naming convention maybe?

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• Day___ Title ... final....
• Find a List_of_Humanity_Rising_Day_Pages NEW page for List of Day Pages Here with this naming convention.

>11/18/20 Stan & I started to think about how a search of Category-Is HR Day would list in order nicely.

• 2020.05.06 Day __ (Title) - This would sort well by date, even different years, but it adds 20 characters before keywords, so still testing before creating Episode List page.
• Day ___ Title - is the shortest. Using 001 format would list numerically vs 1, 10, 100 - thinking that would not matter too much to a human.
• Day___ Title - FINAL.

>11/20/20 Julie is assigned to do search tests of different naming of pages and chats. Stan & Julie decide and email to Malini. I thought of naming chats short (i.e. HRChat 83) and adding the date either in the title, spelled out long form, or in the body (Template)

Idea From Russ: Have the date in the body of the page will show in search results. I'll add dates to Templates. See Date form tests on this page.

Stan's Advise - One word Day_ - no space so the # is not alone, search results would be better, not include every page with just the number.

Chat Page Names:

I hope Chat Pages will have short names like "HR 83"
TESTS:
I am going to test naming different Days in the different ways ... and see how searching looks.

Searching by date or HRDay# or presenter name or topic keywords...

As the Episode List is going to be named something like 'Day 83 Title', I am thinking Chat pages can be similar.

If we add the date to the Chat page title, maybe we do need it in the title of a Day page.
Better yet, with the Date in the page body (Template), its not needed in the Title of either kind of page.

Here are Title Ideas:

• Day83 HR Chat
• Day83 Chat People Chat
• Day83 After Chat

Note: Stan told me today 11/21/10 that naming pages Day# like one word, , would give search results better, not having the # separate. Stan approved Chats be on their own pages. Still designing them 11/19/20

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HR Chat Pages

I made a List of HR Chat Pages Here, like the Episode list page. This is an easy way to make new pages with correct names.

• I named these HR Chat pages : Day __ HR Chat (for my 1st test ...)
• My first test is searching dates after trying different Page names.
• 1st Test is with dates not in the page titles, and dates are in the page body. Add Template. Then fill in the Dates, Topic, Presenters & Chat text at the bottom.
• Note: Dates have to be consistent so I made a GoogleDoc here to copy and paste dates in a consistent format for pasting onto pages.
• Here is a List of HR Chat Pages .... https://othernetworks.org/List_of_HR_Chat_Pages

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After Chat Pages

AKA Chat People Chat pages. After Chat seemed shorter. I hope not confusing - I will chat with Malini and Stan.
I made a List of After Chat Pages Here. This is an easy way to make new pages with correct names.

• I named these 'Chat People Chat' pages : Day __ After Chat (for my 1st test ...)
• My first test is searching dates after trying different Page names.
• 1st Test is with dates not in the page titles, and dates are in the page body. Add Template. Then fill in the Dates, Topic, Presenters & Chat text at the bottom.
• Note: Dates have to be consistent so I made a GoogleDoc here to copy and paste dates in a consistent format for pasting onto pages.
• Here is a List of After Chat Pages

How to Make a Day Page

Steps

1. My first step: to open all the OtherNetworks Pages I need - from a handy OneTabe webpage. The first link on this OneTab webpageis Stan's weekly page (HR_Chat_People_Day_134-138)
2. Make New pages (Day and both Chat Pages) (with Names of Pages already done) by clicking the red hyperlinked words and then creating the page, Brilliant trick Stan!), and adding the S-Templates (see step 3) then save. Find the Page Name's (red hyperlinked words) on these 3 lists pages:
   1. List of Day Pages
   2. List of HRChat Pages ---> * Note: Malini & Stan made a temporary Template:SRP Hr Chat I used to design "Back to" links.
   3. List of After Chat Pages
3. Add these Templates to the 3 New Pages respectively (1 Day & 2 Chat pages) :
   1. (subst:S-HRDay) in squiggle brackets
   2. (subst:S-HRChat) in squiggle brackets
   3. (subst:S-AfterChat) in squiggle brackets
4. Day page needs to be filled in (still a little tedious but can be improved), using Stan's Data and links to the 2 Chat pages.
5. Finish the 2 Chats (Malini' pasting nice format) -
   1. HRChat and
   2. AfterChat
      1. (Is this ok? I changed the name from ChatPeopleChat to AfterChat - let me know if 'AfterChat' works for you - it happened when making the last Template for the Chat page).
6. Check page links, proof read, search test and use where ever needed.
7. The Episode or Day Lists can be linked to on the HR Resources maybe... or where ever you all think.

Edit Existing Pages & Make New Pages

11/10/20: Malini and I Julie started this work - Phase 1

Phase 1 : Stan's Chat People Pages

On Chat People pages, Julie will do the 1st 8 pages until Day 103 and Malini will do the next 8 pages.

1. We will add the Topic on the Day/Date line (why? for better search results and to see the topic in the Table of Contents at the top).See UPDATE: 11/12 below.
2. In Source code, add this substitute-tag under the Day/Date line "subst:S-ChatPeopleDay" (in double squiggly brackets). It inserts template content (a form) into the page.
3. Then move the Chats, Videos, Images and Other Resources already on these pages into the "Template" form (in that order, Chat, Video, etc)

UPDATE: 11/12 - Stan did not like the way it looked with headers like Video, Chats, Images, OtherResources. We broke Stan's email links. Topic can be put below date/Day line to fix the broken links in all the email sent out. However this still needs deciding on, Malini likes topic in the Table of Contents at the top.

Phase 2: New Pages

Make New Day Pages, a page for each day, with everything on it.

1. First, finalize the Day Page design and Template:S-HRDay. (ToDo: Stan plz delete Template:HRChat. Stan has a "regular" template "HR Chat" for the block of day ranges).
2. Decide with Stan & Malini & Julie how to Title Day Pages - See Idea 2: Day Pages below
3. Create a new page with the topic - search the entire topic title and create page from search results.
4. Template:S-HRDay will populate the new page with a form to fill in by pasting this substitute-tag (subst:S-HRDay) (in double squiggly brackets) on the Edit Source tab.
5. We talked about making it cleaner looking like on Chat People pages. (idea: use a template or just paste source code from People pages, once done in Phase 1 ... have to try it).
6. Try a search and see results from both our Phase 1 & 2 work.
7. What else?

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Chat & Day Pages

Goal: Our goal is to add value and make everything searchable and more easily find-able. Task: Make Templates for these 2 types of Pages:

• Day Pages - (Complete pages for an HR Day. Including after chat resources, Chats, Videos, Images, All Resources, etc).
• Chat Pages - Only the Chat - 2 Types: HR and People chat.

Idea 1: Chat Only Pages

• Create 1 or 2 templates for the Chats. They can be one template to use with either chat type (HR or ChatPeople), choosing which to use, deleting whats not needed. Or make 2 templates if that is more useful, one for each chat type.
• The Chat Pages created from these templates, containing just the Chats from HR and ChatPeople, have only the chats (or mostly just the Chats). Now they will be searchable, findable on OtherNetworks.
• ASk Stan : These Chat Only pages would be linked to on the [HR Chat People Pages] to replace the Chat links that go to (are hosted on) Community Magic now and are thus not find-able with a search on OtherNetworks.
• Naming Chat Pages Protocol :

• HR Day _ Zoom Chat
• Chat People Day _ Zoom Chat
• Chat Action Day _ Zoom Chat

Testing a HRChat Page > https://othernetworks.org/HR_135_Chat . That page has the entire HR Chat This page has only the chat. Plus:

• a link to HR Resources,
• a link to the complete Day Page,
• the Topic and Presenters to identify you are in the right place.

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Idea 2: Day Pages

• Create a Complete Humanity Rising Day Page for each Day.

- Made with a Template:S-HRDay.

- Titled with HR Topic (keywords). Example Page Title: HR130 Charles Eisenstein & Vandana Shiva US Presidential Election 2020 Consequences

- Pages with meta tags and Categories that match the topic

- They may or may not include 'HR' or 'Humanity Rising' in the title. I recommend we may not need the words 'Chat', nor 'Day' and maybe not even "Humanity Rising" just to shorten the page title for SEO value for people and machine search.

- These pages would include content from that day with links to both types of "chat" pages (see Idea 1 above) and links to the Humanity Rising Resource Page

• This will also allow us to have a more complete set of resources on 1 page for/from HR and ChatPeople for access to not only searchable chats, but also videos and presenters/participants names, websites, books, videos, projects, etc offered. Perhaps even video transcripts (more keywords and categories).

All of this adds value that is not duplicating work and resources that can be found on Ubiverse site or YouTube video descriptions.

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Testing: Examples & Design

Chat Pages

• Example: 'HR' Chat Page > https://othernetworks.org/HR_135_Chat
• Example: 'ChatPeople' Chat aka 'After Chat' > (do I have a template for that?)

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Search Tests:

1. Search 'Day 135'. Shows us that 'Day' is not needed in page name. Search results showed page 'HR 135' == Humanity Rising Day 135 ==.
2. Searching Nov 10th, did not find Day 135 nor November 10th. You have to search for the date format exactly. (See Date Formater). Add more date formats pm pages?
3. ...

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Day Pages

Day 83 Example:

• Day Page Example-1: https://othernetworks.org/HR83_NextGen_2030_Integral_Actions_for_Everyday_Life

This is closer to being a complete Day Page, but may need redesigning to make it look simpler (See Phase 1, work we did on Stan's Chat People Pages).

• Shorter Page Example-2

• Without the full chat.
• Just a link to the chat (page)
  
• Explained: I created a Page using the old (1st draft) "HRChat" Template to make a page here for just the chat so the Day 83 page (see example) would not be so long, not have the chat, just have a link to it on the Day page.

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Dates Formats

• What is the common way people search for a date?
• Here is Wikipedia's answer https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Date_format_by_country
• NOTE: Code can be used so many formats of dates can be found in search, IF its turned on.
• It is not turned on or does not work as advertised.
• Using <date></date> failed (code visible).
• This (Date Formatter) can make sure all forms of dates searched are recognized.

Common Date Formats

• YYYY-MM-DD
• DD-MM-YYYY

Others:

• • Monday  01-Jun-20
  • 01-06-2020
  • 1-6-2020
  • 1/6/2020
  • 6/1/2020 (USA)

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• • See also Naming Conventions for Templates here

Templates

Template Names

Malini suggested naming Templates like this...

• HRD - HR DAY
• HRZC - HR Zoom Chat
• CPD - Chat People Day
• CPC - Chat People Zoom Chat
• CAD - Chat action Day
• CAC - Chat Action Zoom Chat

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Template Types - Naming Convention

• Use the regular Template:Name for naming/creating templates which should not be edited within the page, such as those which migrate to everyplace they are used, i.e. regular Templates. Like Stan's block of Day-Range-Links; for example Template:HR Chat with tag (Name) (in double squiggly brackets)

• Use Template:S_Name for naming/creating Templates that substitute the tag (subst:S-"Name") (in double squiggly brackets) in the page, and are removed, replacing the tag with the template contents; for example subst:S-HRChat . This allows you to edit the page content without editing the template.

Note: A substitute template inserts content into a page which can then be edited. Once the page where its used is saved, this tag is (substituted with template content) and removed from the page source code.

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Categories in Templates

Ask Stan about what Categories go in the Templates for Day and Chat Pages.

I see on browse Category page under Is:

• Category:Is-HR Chat‎
• Category:Is-HR Day‎
• Category:Is-Humanity Rising Episode‎
• Category:Is-HR Chat People Week‎

Will there be any others?:

• Category:Is-HR After Chat
• Category:Is-Chat People Chat
• Category:Is-HR Videos
• Category:Is-HR Recordings
• or any others?

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List of Existing Templates with Descriptions/Uses

• Template:S-HRDay Use (subst:S-HRDay) in double squigglies, fills a new Day page (See this list of Day Pages to make new pages here) .
• Template:S-HRChat ... is an Chat page linked to on the Day Pages. See List of HR Chat Pages here. Use (subst:S-HRChat) in double squigglies.
• Template:S-AfterChat ... is another Chat aka ChatPeople chat page, linked to on the Day pages. See List of AfterChat Pages here. Use (subst:S-AfterChat) in double squigglies.

More

• "Template:S-ChatPeopleDay" for Phase 1 (see above), a substitute-tag to insert the design/outline for the Chat People Pages List of Links, to fill in bulleted links.
• "Template:S-HRDay" An HR Day Page. Remade this "Template:S-HRDay" (with the S-naming convention).

Its a duplicate (to keep) of * "Template:HRChat". I need to ask Stan how to delete "Template:HRChat".

• Template:S-HRChat Use on new HR CHAT Pages which will link on the complete Day pages to the chat only.
• "Template:HRChat" (note "HRchat" won't work - its case sensitive) - I will repurpose this for a new HRChat Page. Now 11/12/20 it is a Day Page but ... it can be deleted because both name and code... the code is already mostly on HR135 page to copy and paste into a new Template:S-HRChat.
• Chat only 'ChatPeople' chat Template:S-AfterChat.
• Need to make a chat only 'ChatAction' chat Template:S-ChatACTIONChat An CA CHAT Page.
• "Template:S-SampleZoomMeetingOutline" compares and gives options for Bold, Headers, Unformated. Delete what you dont want - use what you prefer. Maybe useless...
• "Template:ChatPeopleDay" - I need to ask Stan how to delete this - rebuilt as an S-Name page.

• "Template:HR Chat" - Stan's. A Regulate Template (vs the above Substitute Templates). It is inserted into H R Resource Page at top - block of Day-Range-Links. Stan edits this template to add more HR Days. Adding "HR Chat" (in double squiggly brackets) into a page inserts the Block of Days. This template tag remains in the source code of the page its used in. Its a regular Template:Name.

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