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== Chat from AfterChat Zoom from HR Day 151: == | == Chat from AfterChat Zoom from HR Day 151: == | ||
00:06:53 Maria Helene Kraul: sorry about that! | |||
00:07:03 Shannon McArthur: Good morning David Cadman!! Lovely to see you here | 00:07:03 Shannon McArthur: Good morning David Cadman!! Lovely to see you here | ||
00:07:23 Veronika: David Cadman: That | |||
00:07:23 Veronika: David Cadman: That was a wonderful presentation. Thank you. | |||
00:07:36 Shannon McArthur: Heather! You’re here! lovely to have your presents here! | 00:07:36 Shannon McArthur: Heather! You’re here! lovely to have your presents here! | ||
00:07:55 Kurt Krueger: David, Love to have your slides. | 00:07:55 Kurt Krueger: David, Love to have your slides. | ||
00:08:41 Julie Wolf: This is HR Day | |||
00:11:08 Shannon McArthur: we have many ideas… no confirmation. | 00:08:41 Julie Wolf: This is HR Day 151 - Returning to the Root: Contemplation and Stillness as a Pathway of Integration with Mary Magdalene | ||
00:13:25 Heather Frase: thank you Shannon! | |||
00:15:47 Shannon McArthur: Good morning Sally, | 00:11:08 Shannon McArthur: we have many ideas… no confirmation. none possible, that I know of… | ||
00:13:25 Heather Frase: thank you Shannon! good to be here. | |||
00:15:47 Shannon McArthur: Good morning Sally, I hope you are well today | |||
00:15:48 sallyannett: hey-guys-good-hair-dan | 00:15:48 sallyannett: hey-guys-good-hair-dan | ||
00:16:04 Heather Frase: Malini!! | |||
00:16:04 Heather Frase: Malini!! yes with the books - Ainslie macleod changed my life in 2014 in a mermaid store ;) | |||
00:16:15 Kurt Krueger: SuccessSystemsInternational@gmail.com | 00:16:15 Kurt Krueger: SuccessSystemsInternational@gmail.com | ||
00:16:56 Kurt Krueger: “Peace with Everything, and Everything with Peace.†~ Lama Gangchen | 00:16:56 Kurt Krueger: “Peace with Everything, and Everything with Peace.†~ Lama Gangchen | ||
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00:17:33 Julie Wolf: We are discussing the alternate stories of Jesus and the women, the Mary's. | 00:17:33 Julie Wolf: We are discussing the alternate stories of Jesus and the women, the Mary's. | ||
There is a sacred place in | |||
There is a sacred place in India Clare and Malini referred to and even scripture that went under ground. | |||
00:18:31 David Cadman: My website is davidcadmanatwork.com | 00:18:31 David Cadman: My website is davidcadmanatwork.com | ||
00:19:47 sallyannett: www.othernetworks.org | 00:19:47 sallyannett: www.othernetworks.org | ||
00:19:47 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: Holger Kresten- Jesus Lived in India. Please find the original publication there were many fake versions that emerged after that. | 00:19:47 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: Holger Kresten- Jesus Lived in India. Please find the original publication there were many fake versions that emerged after that. | ||
00:19:52 Julie Wolf: Jean asked if any one had heard of this alternate story about the 9s what startedths cpnversation.... facinating! He later mentions jesus family tomb . | 00:19:52 Julie Wolf: Jean asked if any one had heard of this alternate story about the 9s what startedths cpnversation.... facinating! He later mentions jesus family tomb . | ||
00:19:55 Lucy Rieger: lucy@libraryupdate.com | 00:19:55 Lucy Rieger: lucy@libraryupdate.com | ||
00:20:03 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): khaldenstein@optonline.net | 00:20:03 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): khaldenstein@optonline.net | ||
00:20:06 Maria Helene Kraul: Maria Helene Kraul mhkraul@gmail.com | 00:20:06 Maria Helene Kraul: Maria Helene Kraul mhkraul@gmail.com | ||
00:20:06 Paula Ste Marie: Paula Ste. Marie email - | |||
00:20:10 Clare (Satya-Jai) Hartsdale, NY: crosenfield9@gmail. | 00:20:06 Paula Ste Marie: Paula Ste. Marie email - ioeo@earthlink.net | ||
00:20:10 Clare (Satya-Jai) Hartsdale, NY: crosenfield9@gmail.com Clare Rosenfield | |||
00:20:12 Maria Helene Kraul: thank you | 00:20:12 Maria Helene Kraul: thank you | ||
00:20:12 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): Thank you! | 00:20:12 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): Thank you! | ||
00:20:20 sallyannett: www.othernetworks.org | 00:20:20 sallyannett: www.othernetworks.org | ||
00:20:29 Julie Wolf: * about | |||
00:20:29 Julie Wolf: * about the alternate story (typos above at 9s) ... | |||
00:20:31 Paula Ste Marie: 🙠Thank you | 00:20:31 Paula Ste Marie: 🙠Thank you | ||
00:20:41 Leo Jacoby: I put in HR chat references to Silence of Saint Thomas by Josef Pieper and The World of Silence by Max Picard (1953). | |||
00:20:41 Leo Jacoby: I put in HR chat references to Silence of Saint Thomas by Josef Pieper and The World of Silence by Max Picard (1953). I read these at boarding school, plus hearing Sounds of Silence by Simon & Garfunkel... influenced my writing a graduation speech shortly after my 18th birthday (which I will upload for your amusement.) | |||
Going deep into Dogma we find mystery and silence.From the outside Dogma looks brittle and bare. Heresy and Dogma are cousins, if not brother and sister? | Going deep into Dogma we find mystery and silence.From the outside Dogma looks brittle and bare. Heresy and Dogma are cousins, if not brother and sister? | ||
00:20:44 Shannon McArthur: SALLY!! | 00:20:44 Shannon McArthur: SALLY!! | ||
00:20:44 Dan Bailiff: circleofnames@gmail.com Dan Bailiff ... thank you! | 00:20:44 Dan Bailiff: circleofnames@gmail.com Dan Bailiff ... thank you! | ||
00:22:02 Julie Wolf: Last night Russ and I watched a very good movie on Amazon Prime - called 'Joshua' | |||
00:22:02 Julie Wolf: Last night Russ and I watched a very good movie on Amazon Prime - called 'Joshua' its relavent to this. Let me know what you think. | |||
00:23:12 Heather Frase: Unitarian Universalism :) thanks mom and dad | 00:23:12 Heather Frase: Unitarian Universalism :) thanks mom and dad | ||
00:23:16 Stanley Pokras: Leo's file needs to be clicked on to download it. Files are not maintained as part of the chat. | 00:23:16 Stanley Pokras: Leo's file needs to be clicked on to download it. Files are not maintained as part of the chat. | ||
00:23:38 Clare (Satya-Jai) Hartsdale, NY: The Quakers and the Indigenous both are non hierarchical in their way of collaborative decision making | 00:23:38 Clare (Satya-Jai) Hartsdale, NY: The Quakers and the Indigenous both are non hierarchical in their way of collaborative decision making | ||
00:25:00 David S: Thanks, Leo…. David Stoney | 00:25:00 David S: Thanks, Leo…. David Stoney | ||
00:26:42 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: I was told Mary was an ESSENE. | 00:26:42 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: I was told Mary was an ESSENE. | ||
00:26:45 Clare (Satya-Jai) Hartsdale, NY: Sally, I love what you are saying! | 00:26:45 Clare (Satya-Jai) Hartsdale, NY: Sally, I love what you are saying! | ||
00:27:09 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): To Clare I am your “neighbor†in White Plains, NY | 00:27:09 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): To Clare I am your “neighbor†in White Plains, NY | ||
00:27:18 Julie Wolf: Essene attracts me | 00:27:18 Julie Wolf: Essene attracts me | ||
00:27:22 Shannon McArthur: 300,000, | |||
00:27:22 Shannon McArthur: 300,000,000 years ago all beings were feminine - Sally, could you suggest a source to read? | |||
00:27:59 Daniel Rieders: the music today was other worldly (feminine principle), the silence was connecting (masculine principle); in partnership, in a dance, brilliant HR today, bravo | 00:27:59 Daniel Rieders: the music today was other worldly (feminine principle), the silence was connecting (masculine principle); in partnership, in a dance, brilliant HR today, bravo | ||
00:28:07 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: Its not a human species need to name , its an Abrahamic religious inclination to Name things in certain ways. | 00:28:07 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: Its not a human species need to name , its an Abrahamic religious inclination to Name things in certain ways. | ||
00:28:12 Clare (Satya-Jai) Hartsdale, NY: And the Essene Gospel is found in a little book that says that Jesus told to John--that "one who eats of an animal eats of my brother," so the Essenes were vegetarian based on this, so far as I know. | |||
00:28:12 Clare (Satya-Jai) Hartsdale, NY: And the Essene Gospel is found in a little book that says that Jesus told to John--that "one who eats of an animal eats of my brother," so the Essenes were vegetarian based on this, so far as I know. I own that little book. | |||
00:28:17 sallyannett: dawkins=the-anscetors-tale- | 00:28:17 sallyannett: dawkins=the-anscetors-tale- | ||
00:28:30 sallyannett: julie-do-your-magic-on-acorrect-link | 00:28:30 sallyannett: julie-do-your-magic-on-acorrect-link | ||
00:29:05 Julie Wolf: Sally thanks I wpi;d jhave fporgotten | 00:29:05 Julie Wolf: Sally thanks I wpi;d jhave fporgotten | ||
00:29:14 sallyannett: she-is-indeed-the-tower | 00:29:14 sallyannett: she-is-indeed-the-tower | ||
00:29:32 Julie Wolf: . | 00:29:32 Julie Wolf: . | ||
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00:29:44 Daniel Rieders: BTW to all of you neuro scientists type. | 00:29:44 Daniel Rieders: BTW to all of you neuro scientists type. Broca’s speech area, is in the left brain, and a slow processor. to cross over to the right you need to cross the corpus collosum. | ||
00:30:39 sallyannett: the-pendulum | 00:30:39 sallyannett: the-pendulum | ||
00:31:21 sallyannett: the-tower-has-all-the-potential-contained-in-trauma- | 00:31:21 sallyannett: the-tower-has-all-the-potential-contained-in-trauma- | ||
00:31:23 Shannon McArthur: She is rising through us; through silence She forms | 00:31:23 Shannon McArthur: She is rising through us; through silence She forms | ||
00:31:26 sallyannett: so-greatest-healing | 00:31:26 sallyannett: so-greatest-healing | ||
00:31:32 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: That is why we have the ARDHANARISWAR form of Shiva whos body is part male and part female. That's the form that is said to emerge between the eras of destruction and creation. | 00:31:32 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: That is why we have the ARDHANARISWAR form of Shiva whos body is part male and part female. That's the form that is said to emerge between the eras of destruction and creation. | ||
00:31:34 Daniel Rieders: the older maps, are dominant and ignoring them is naive and will result in suffering | 00:31:34 Daniel Rieders: the older maps, are dominant and ignoring them is naive and will result in suffering | ||
00:32:40 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: Beautifully put Heather. | 00:32:40 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: Beautifully put Heather. | ||
00:32:44 Julie Wolf: Heather Frase - We need your voice heree. Please keep joining us what you feel it. | 00:32:44 Julie Wolf: Heather Frase - We need your voice heree. Please keep joining us what you feel it. | ||
00:33:00 Karen Ball: Dr. Marshall Rosenberg created a compassionate communication called Nonviolent Communication | 00:33:00 Karen Ball: Dr. Marshall Rosenberg created a compassionate communication called Nonviolent Communication | ||
00:33:00 Julie Wolf: when you feel it | 00:33:00 Julie Wolf: when you feel it | ||
00:33:22 sallyannett: she-is-isis-she-is-hecate-she-ismara-she-is-cyblele | 00:33:22 sallyannett: she-is-isis-she-is-hecate-she-ismara-she-is-cyblele | ||
00:33:34 sallyannett: thank-you-heather | 00:33:34 sallyannett: thank-you-heather | ||
00:34:01 Daniel Rieders: of course non-violent communication. | |||
00:34:01 Daniel Rieders: of course non-violent communication. how about what communication do we imbibe. I’m thinking from HR today, the language of love, peace, truth, and beauty | |||
00:34:11 sallyannett: xxxdan | 00:34:11 sallyannett: xxxdan | ||
00:34:16 Daniel Rieders: It is not patriarchy. | |||
00:34:16 Daniel Rieders: It is not patriarchy. rather doominator | |||
00:34:17 Shannon McArthur: no accidents | 00:34:17 Shannon McArthur: no accidents | ||
00:35:05 Karen Ball: Yes Daniel, it is a language of domination | 00:35:05 Karen Ball: Yes Daniel, it is a language of domination | ||
00:36:02 Daniel Rieders: depends ultimately, what type of god do you believe in. | |||
00:36:02 Daniel Rieders: depends ultimately, what type of god do you believe in. a friendly god, or an unfriendly god | |||
00:36:20 sallyannett: my-favourite-mary-magdamlene-is-norman-jewisons-mary-from-jesus-christ-superstar | 00:36:20 sallyannett: my-favourite-mary-magdamlene-is-norman-jewisons-mary-from-jesus-christ-superstar | ||
00:36:31 Daniel Rieders: Heather, you are an empath | 00:36:31 Daniel Rieders: Heather, you are an empath | ||
00:36:49 Daniel Rieders: and their may be a bit of projection | 00:36:49 Daniel Rieders: and their may be a bit of projection | ||
00:37:09 Kurt Krueger: Sally, so right | 00:37:09 Kurt Krueger: Sally, so right | ||
00:37:44 Kathryn Alexander, MA: yes - feeling all the things that happened under that pier. | 00:37:44 Kathryn Alexander, MA: yes - feeling all the things that happened under that pier. | ||
00:37:59 Daniel Rieders: and the myth of separation | 00:37:59 Daniel Rieders: and the myth of separation | ||
00:38:20 Dan Bailiff: dangerous assumption hearts and minds.... remember how thin a layer of Truth we can really uncover with our Self perception.... I am sorry for this traumatic experience but I believe Life knows the way and you are listening more every day. | 00:38:20 Dan Bailiff: dangerous assumption hearts and minds.... remember how thin a layer of Truth we can really uncover with our Self perception.... I am sorry for this traumatic experience but I believe Life knows the way and you are listening more every day. | ||
00:38:23 sallyannett: we-are-here0 | 00:38:23 sallyannett: we-are-here0 | ||
00:38:47 Shannon McArthur: grateful that you are here, Heather. | |||
00:38:47 Shannon McArthur: grateful that you are here, Heather. thank you for speaking. | |||
00:38:55 sallyannett: pleaswrite-us-a-message | 00:38:55 sallyannett: pleaswrite-us-a-message | ||
00:39:02 sallyannett: and-lesley-will-take-it | 00:39:02 sallyannett: and-lesley-will-take-it | ||
00:39:21 Julie Wolf: We love you Heather! | 00:39:21 Julie Wolf: We love you Heather! | ||
00:39:52 sallyannett: can-you-come-back-to-us-everyday-heather | 00:39:52 sallyannett: can-you-come-back-to-us-everyday-heather | ||
00:40:21 Heather Frase: forwardmovingart@gmail.com | 00:40:21 Heather Frase: forwardmovingart@gmail.com | ||
00:40:24 Dan Bailiff: AHO! | 00:40:24 Dan Bailiff: AHO! | ||
00:40:35 Daniel Rieders: a-hoo | 00:40:35 Daniel Rieders: a-hoo | ||
00:41:31 marciaraffstudio: he’s wonderful nd lives in Oak Prk I believe | 00:41:31 marciaraffstudio: he’s wonderful nd lives in Oak Prk I believe | ||
00:41:59 marciaraffstudio: He used t live in Oak Park..but doesn’t matter where we live right now | 00:41:59 marciaraffstudio: He used t live in Oak Park..but doesn’t matter where we live right now | ||
00:42:18 Kurt Krueger: Just email you . I’ll call her after we get off | 00:42:18 Kurt Krueger: Just email you . I’ll call her after we get off | ||
00:42:25 Shannon McArthur: doesn’t matter where we live physically, | |||
00:42:25 Shannon McArthur: doesn’t matter where we live physically, yes, Marcia… I’m here for you Heather! | |||
00:42:41 Lucy Rieger: holding all in compassion, understanding and care | 00:42:41 Lucy Rieger: holding all in compassion, understanding and care | ||
00:42:57 Julie Wolf: We can find you what you need Heather | 00:42:57 Julie Wolf: We can find you what you need Heather | ||
00:43:38 Daniel Rieders: perhaps you are in an awakening, heather, in a dark night, stay in the moment, and let it rip you apart, if you have the heart for it | 00:43:38 Daniel Rieders: perhaps you are in an awakening, heather, in a dark night, stay in the moment, and let it rip you apart, if you have the heart for it | ||
00:44:38 sallyannett: i-think-jean-wanted-to-speak | 00:44:38 sallyannett: i-think-jean-wanted-to-speak | ||
00:44:40 Daniel Rieders: maybe there is nothing broken, nothing to fix | 00:44:40 Daniel Rieders: maybe there is nothing broken, nothing to fix | ||
00:45:52 Daniel Rieders: maybe she is connected to her higher self | 00:45:52 Daniel Rieders: maybe she is connected to her higher self | ||
00:46:42 marciaraffstudio: Dan, you are a blessing! | 00:46:42 marciaraffstudio: Dan, you are a blessing! | ||
00:46:43 sallyannett: grace-dan | 00:46:43 sallyannett: grace-dan | ||
00:47:39 Kurt Krueger: Blessings abound when We’re around! | 00:47:39 Kurt Krueger: Blessings abound when We’re around! | ||
00:47:40 Daniel Rieders: maybe the message - connect to your mary magdalena part - perhaps the medicine | 00:47:40 Daniel Rieders: maybe the message - connect to your mary magdalena part - perhaps the medicine | ||
00:47:59 sallyannett: stella-maris | 00:47:59 sallyannett: stella-maris | ||
00:48:02 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: Thank you Dan. For saying what needed to be said. | 00:48:02 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: Thank you Dan. For saying what needed to be said. | ||
00:48:34 Daniel Rieders: what written on your forearm Heather | 00:48:34 Daniel Rieders: what written on your forearm Heather | ||
00:48:39 Shannon McArthur: and the phone rings to emphasize the message!! | 00:48:39 Shannon McArthur: and the phone rings to emphasize the message!! | ||
00:48:52 Heather Frase: forwardmovingart@gmail.com | 00:48:52 Heather Frase: forwardmovingart@gmail.com | ||
00:49:03 David Cadman: My dear friends, please forgive me, but I have to go | 00:49:03 David Cadman: My dear friends, please forgive me, but I have to go | ||
00:49:05 marciaraffstudio: Andrew Harvey is all soul! | 00:49:05 marciaraffstudio: Andrew Harvey is all soul! | ||
00:49:19 Shannon McArthur: David - | |||
00:49:19 Shannon McArthur: David - thank you so much for coming! | |||
00:49:21 sallyannett: thank-you-davidxx | 00:49:21 sallyannett: thank-you-davidxx | ||
00:49:45 sallyannett: ihavetogoinasec-toox | 00:49:45 sallyannett: ihavetogoinasec-toox | ||
00:49:45 Kurt Krueger: DAVID, THANKS FOR BEING HERE | 00:49:45 Kurt Krueger: DAVID, THANKS FOR BEING HERE | ||
00:50:01 Kurt Krueger: CU Sally | 00:50:01 Kurt Krueger: CU Sally | ||
00:50:19 Julie Wolf: Dan you are healing us all with your love. | |||
00:50:19 Julie Wolf: Dan you are healing us all with your love. Thank you Dan and all for loving Heather in a moment of need of love and support. | |||
00:50:20 Leo Jacoby: I resonated with theme of silence that David introduced; I put some references in chat from high school days. | 00:50:20 Leo Jacoby: I resonated with theme of silence that David introduced; I put some references in chat from high school days. | ||
My daughter in Chicago is a social justice Catholic and tells a poignant story. The family set up an annual altar for The Day of the Dead. The 3 year old (my granddaughter) was horrified by the sight of a crucifix on the family altar; she wailed "I don't want Jesus in my heart, I want Opa and Grammy in my heart." (her experience of love.) Sadly, we have too few Grammy images of the elder Mary (ala crone images by Thomas Dodd?) | My daughter in Chicago is a social justice Catholic and tells a poignant story. The family set up an annual altar for The Day of the Dead. The 3 year old (my granddaughter) was horrified by the sight of a crucifix on the family altar; she wailed "I don't want Jesus in my heart, I want Opa and Grammy in my heart." (her experience of love.) Sadly, we have too few Grammy images of the elder Mary (ala crone images by Thomas Dodd?) | ||
cf. Matthew Fox's call from Original Sin to Original Blessing. | cf. Matthew Fox's call from Original Sin to Original Blessing. | ||
00:50:49 Shannon McArthur: thank you, DanB for your gentle wisdom, guiding words, and your generosity! | |||
00:51:48 Karen Ball: We mirror one another | 00:51:48 Karen Ball: We mirror one another | ||
00:52:14 sallyannett: bye-guysxxx-loveyou | 00:52:14 sallyannett: bye-guysxxx-loveyou | ||
00:52:15 Heather Frase: thank you | 00:52:15 Heather Frase: thank you | ||
00:52:29 marciaraffstudio: bye | |||
00:52:29 marciaraffstudio: bye Sally feel good | |||
00:52:30 Shannon McArthur: bye Sally, thank yo for coming - stay well! Be well!! | 00:52:30 Shannon McArthur: bye Sally, thank yo for coming - stay well! Be well!! | ||
00:52:35 Julie Wolf: bye Sally | 00:52:35 Julie Wolf: bye Sally | ||
00:52:45 Daniel Rieders: bye sally | 00:52:45 Daniel Rieders: bye sally | ||
00:54:09 Shannon McArthur: sometimes love doesn’t wear the garb we expect… | 00:54:09 Shannon McArthur: sometimes love doesn’t wear the garb we expect… | ||
00:54:23 Julie Wolf: Do we want to invite Heaterh to our ActionPeople email list? | 00:54:23 Julie Wolf: Do we want to invite Heaterh to our ActionPeople email list? | ||
00:54:33 Shannon McArthur: of course. | 00:54:33 Shannon McArthur: of course. | ||
00:54:36 Daniel Rieders: Clare you will always be jewish, your ancestral maps | 00:54:36 Daniel Rieders: Clare you will always be jewish, your ancestral maps | ||
00:54:40 Julie Wolf: so she can email us all for support if needed | 00:54:40 Julie Wolf: so she can email us all for support if needed | ||
00:55:34 marciaraffstudio: andrew Harvey does the Hail Mary like no one else in the world! | 00:55:34 marciaraffstudio: andrew Harvey does the Hail Mary like no one else in the world! | ||
00:55:44 Leo Jacoby: | |||
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Is silence where all the traditions meet? | Is silence where all the traditions meet? | ||
Archetypes apply across the board of religious expression. | Archetypes apply across the board of religious expression. | ||
00:55:56 Heather Frase: kuan yin | 00:55:56 Heather Frase: kuan yin | ||
00:56:40 Shannon McArthur: we are being mixed in beauty - seeking beauty, we find the path that is exclusively ours.. | 00:56:40 Shannon McArthur: we are being mixed in beauty - seeking beauty, we find the path that is exclusively ours.. | ||
00:56:45 Daniel Rieders: mystical traditions are amazingly same | 00:56:45 Daniel Rieders: mystical traditions are amazingly same | ||
00:57:04 Julie Wolf: Kuan Yin inspired my own identity this life. Compassion, unconditionally. | 00:57:04 Julie Wolf: Kuan Yin inspired my own identity this life. Compassion, unconditionally. | ||
00:58:07 David S: @ Heather - During the meditation in silence offered by David Cadman, I focused on my breathing and used a prayer mantra directed toward the Source: “Guidance, strength, courage†over and over. | |||
00:58:36 David S: About naming the Source: | 00:58:07 David S: @ Heather - During the meditation in silence offered by David Cadman, I focused on my breathing and used a prayer mantra directed toward the Source: “Guidance, strength, courage†over and over. The three minutes seemed only to last for seconds and there was peace… David Stoney | ||
00:58:36 David S: About naming the Source: There was a middle-aged guru in India who one day vowed to remain silent until he could say the true name of God. He died in silence. Oh, oh, this story reminds me of Paul Tillich’s writings… David Stoney | |||
00:58:46 Heather Frase: indigenous wisdom is a big part of my path too Doreen | 00:58:46 Heather Frase: indigenous wisdom is a big part of my path too Doreen | ||
00:59:07 David S: “The courage to be which is rooted in the experience of the God above the God of theism unites and transcends the courage to be as a part ad the courage to be as oneself. | |||
00:59:07 David S: “The courage to be which is rooted in the experience of the God above the God of theism unites and transcends the courage to be as a part ad the courage to be as oneself. It avoids both the loss of oneself by participation and the loss of one’s world by individualization. The acceptance of the God above the God of theism makes us a part of that which is not also a part but is the ground of the whole. Therefore the self is not lost in a larger whole, which submerges it in the life of a limited group. If the self participates in the power of being-itself it receives itself back.†(Paul Tillich, The Courage to Be, 1952) | |||
00:59:13 Daniel Rieders: so true Malini and Lesley | 00:59:13 Daniel Rieders: so true Malini and Lesley | ||
00:59:52 Shannon McArthur: ego does not die - it is the canoe we ride through this world. | |||
00:59:52 Shannon McArthur: ego does not die - it is the canoe we ride through this world. Occasionally it is holed by darkness | |||
00:59:58 Shannon McArthur: imho | 00:59:58 Shannon McArthur: imho | ||
01:00:03 Daniel Rieders: however, the soul can have a dark night, as the soul is evolving, the soul’s | |||
01:00:03 Daniel Rieders: however, the soul can have a dark night, as the soul is evolving, the soul’s journey… true, most are dark nights of the ego | |||
01:00:10 Julie Wolf: Heather do you know of the Dec 11 - 22 Worldfire, Indigenous People uniting the world? Its on Zoom at theconversation.cc It has inspired me so! | 01:00:10 Julie Wolf: Heather do you know of the Dec 11 - 22 Worldfire, Indigenous People uniting the world? Its on Zoom at theconversation.cc It has inspired me so! | ||
01:00:35 Daniel Rieders: the time is right, now | 01:00:35 Daniel Rieders: the time is right, now | ||
01:01:49 Shannon McArthur: tuning my soul… | 01:01:49 Shannon McArthur: tuning my soul… | ||
01:06:48 Leo Jacoby: https://genius.com/Natalie-merchant-motherland-lyrics | |||
01:06:48 Leo Jacoby: <nowiki>https://genius.com/Natalie-merchant-motherland-lyrics</nowiki> | |||
01:09:53 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): Beautiful music Heather, thank you! | 01:09:53 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): Beautiful music Heather, thank you! | ||
01:10:18 Daniel Rieders: 100% protection, | 01:10:18 Daniel Rieders: 100% protection, | ||
01:11:15 marciaraffstudio: Lesley, you are amazing. | |||
01:11:35 David S: Thanks Heather… beautiful, deeply heartfelt. | 01:11:15 marciaraffstudio: Lesley, you are amazing. xxoo’s | ||
01:11:35 David S: Thanks Heather… beautiful, deeply heartfelt. Stay strong… David Stoney | |||
01:11:48 Daniel Rieders: xxooxx Lesley | 01:11:48 Daniel Rieders: xxooxx Lesley | ||
01:12:02 marciaraffstudio: I wish all of that to you, Lesley. | 01:12:02 marciaraffstudio: I wish all of that to you, Lesley. | ||
01:12:17 Neela.Saxena@ncc.edu: Amazing session with heartbreak and joy. Thank you. | 01:12:17 Neela.Saxena@ncc.edu: Amazing session with heartbreak and joy. Thank you. | ||
01:12:50 David S: Health, wholeness, courage…. David Stoney -- | |||
01:12:50 David S: Health, wholeness, courage…. David Stoney | |||
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Chat from AfterChat Zoom from HR Day 151:
00:06:53 Maria Helene Kraul: sorry about that!
00:07:03 Shannon McArthur: Good morning David Cadman!! Lovely to see you here
00:07:23 Veronika: David Cadman: That was a wonderful presentation. Thank you.
00:07:36 Shannon McArthur: Heather! You’re here! lovely to have your presents here!
00:07:55 Kurt Krueger: David, Love to have your slides.
00:08:41 Julie Wolf: This is HR Day 151 - Returning to the Root: Contemplation and Stillness as a Pathway of Integration with Mary Magdalene
00:11:08 Shannon McArthur: we have many ideas… no confirmation. none possible, that I know of…
00:13:25 Heather Frase: thank you Shannon! good to be here.
00:15:47 Shannon McArthur: Good morning Sally, I hope you are well today
00:15:48 sallyannett: hey-guys-good-hair-dan
00:16:04 Heather Frase: Malini!! yes with the books - Ainslie macleod changed my life in 2014 in a mermaid store ;)
00:16:15 Kurt Krueger: SuccessSystemsInternational@gmail.com
00:16:56 Kurt Krueger: “Peace with Everything, and Everything with Peace.†~ Lama Gangchen
We are envisioning a powerful step for Humanity Rising forward and upward by creating a National “Department of Peace!†We get to act as “HUMANKIND - Be Both.â€
When you have any ideas that could bring peace in any manner, anywhere, anytime, please apply it and then share it. With us too…
At the turn of the year, we’re planning a major podcast of about 2-3 weeks, 90 minutes on weekdays. Your input would be much appreciated.
Together we fly more easily… :) The worldwide Department(s) of Peace will dramatically reduce violence and wars… We get what we focus upon.
Lots of Love,
K. A. Krueger
1+818-399-0771
00:17:33 Julie Wolf: We are discussing the alternate stories of Jesus and the women, the Mary's.
There is a sacred place in India Clare and Malini referred to and even scripture that went under ground.
00:18:31 David Cadman: My website is davidcadmanatwork.com
00:19:47 sallyannett: www.othernetworks.org
00:19:47 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: Holger Kresten- Jesus Lived in India. Please find the original publication there were many fake versions that emerged after that.
00:19:52 Julie Wolf: Jean asked if any one had heard of this alternate story about the 9s what startedths cpnversation.... facinating! He later mentions jesus family tomb .
00:19:55 Lucy Rieger: lucy@libraryupdate.com
00:20:03 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): khaldenstein@optonline.net
00:20:06 Maria Helene Kraul: Maria Helene Kraul mhkraul@gmail.com
00:20:06 Paula Ste Marie: Paula Ste. Marie email - ioeo@earthlink.net
00:20:10 Clare (Satya-Jai) Hartsdale, NY: crosenfield9@gmail.com Clare Rosenfield
00:20:12 Maria Helene Kraul: thank you
00:20:12 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): Thank you!
00:20:20 sallyannett: www.othernetworks.org
00:20:29 Julie Wolf: * about the alternate story (typos above at 9s) ...
00:20:31 Paula Ste Marie: 🙠Thank you
00:20:41 Leo Jacoby: I put in HR chat references to Silence of Saint Thomas by Josef Pieper and The World of Silence by Max Picard (1953). I read these at boarding school, plus hearing Sounds of Silence by Simon & Garfunkel... influenced my writing a graduation speech shortly after my 18th birthday (which I will upload for your amusement.)
Going deep into Dogma we find mystery and silence.From the outside Dogma looks brittle and bare. Heresy and Dogma are cousins, if not brother and sister?
00:20:44 Shannon McArthur: SALLY!!
00:20:44 Dan Bailiff: circleofnames@gmail.com Dan Bailiff ... thank you!
00:22:02 Julie Wolf: Last night Russ and I watched a very good movie on Amazon Prime - called 'Joshua' its relavent to this. Let me know what you think.
00:23:12 Heather Frase: Unitarian Universalism :) thanks mom and dad
00:23:16 Stanley Pokras: Leo's file needs to be clicked on to download it. Files are not maintained as part of the chat.
00:23:38 Clare (Satya-Jai) Hartsdale, NY: The Quakers and the Indigenous both are non hierarchical in their way of collaborative decision making
00:25:00 David S: Thanks, Leo…. David Stoney
00:26:42 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: I was told Mary was an ESSENE.
00:26:45 Clare (Satya-Jai) Hartsdale, NY: Sally, I love what you are saying!
00:27:09 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): To Clare I am your “neighbor†in White Plains, NY
00:27:18 Julie Wolf: Essene attracts me
00:27:22 Shannon McArthur: 300,000,000 years ago all beings were feminine - Sally, could you suggest a source to read?
00:27:59 Daniel Rieders: the music today was other worldly (feminine principle), the silence was connecting (masculine principle); in partnership, in a dance, brilliant HR today, bravo
00:28:07 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: Its not a human species need to name , its an Abrahamic religious inclination to Name things in certain ways.
00:28:12 Clare (Satya-Jai) Hartsdale, NY: And the Essene Gospel is found in a little book that says that Jesus told to John--that "one who eats of an animal eats of my brother," so the Essenes were vegetarian based on this, so far as I know. I own that little book.
00:28:17 sallyannett: dawkins=the-anscetors-tale-
00:28:30 sallyannett: julie-do-your-magic-on-acorrect-link
00:29:05 Julie Wolf: Sally thanks I wpi;d jhave fporgotten
00:29:14 sallyannett: she-is-indeed-the-tower
00:29:32 Julie Wolf: .
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00:29:44 Daniel Rieders: BTW to all of you neuro scientists type. Broca’s speech area, is in the left brain, and a slow processor. to cross over to the right you need to cross the corpus collosum.
00:30:39 sallyannett: the-pendulum
00:31:21 sallyannett: the-tower-has-all-the-potential-contained-in-trauma-
00:31:23 Shannon McArthur: She is rising through us; through silence She forms
00:31:26 sallyannett: so-greatest-healing
00:31:32 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: That is why we have the ARDHANARISWAR form of Shiva whos body is part male and part female. That's the form that is said to emerge between the eras of destruction and creation.
00:31:34 Daniel Rieders: the older maps, are dominant and ignoring them is naive and will result in suffering
00:32:40 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: Beautifully put Heather.
00:32:44 Julie Wolf: Heather Frase - We need your voice heree. Please keep joining us what you feel it.
00:33:00 Karen Ball: Dr. Marshall Rosenberg created a compassionate communication called Nonviolent Communication
00:33:00 Julie Wolf: when you feel it
00:33:22 sallyannett: she-is-isis-she-is-hecate-she-ismara-she-is-cyblele
00:33:34 sallyannett: thank-you-heather
00:34:01 Daniel Rieders: of course non-violent communication. how about what communication do we imbibe. I’m thinking from HR today, the language of love, peace, truth, and beauty
00:34:11 sallyannett: xxxdan
00:34:16 Daniel Rieders: It is not patriarchy. rather doominator
00:34:17 Shannon McArthur: no accidents
00:35:05 Karen Ball: Yes Daniel, it is a language of domination
00:36:02 Daniel Rieders: depends ultimately, what type of god do you believe in. a friendly god, or an unfriendly god
00:36:20 sallyannett: my-favourite-mary-magdamlene-is-norman-jewisons-mary-from-jesus-christ-superstar
00:36:31 Daniel Rieders: Heather, you are an empath
00:36:49 Daniel Rieders: and their may be a bit of projection
00:37:09 Kurt Krueger: Sally, so right
00:37:44 Kathryn Alexander, MA: yes - feeling all the things that happened under that pier.
00:37:59 Daniel Rieders: and the myth of separation
00:38:20 Dan Bailiff: dangerous assumption hearts and minds.... remember how thin a layer of Truth we can really uncover with our Self perception.... I am sorry for this traumatic experience but I believe Life knows the way and you are listening more every day.
00:38:23 sallyannett: we-are-here0
00:38:47 Shannon McArthur: grateful that you are here, Heather. thank you for speaking.
00:38:55 sallyannett: pleaswrite-us-a-message
00:39:02 sallyannett: and-lesley-will-take-it
00:39:21 Julie Wolf: We love you Heather!
00:39:52 sallyannett: can-you-come-back-to-us-everyday-heather
00:40:21 Heather Frase: forwardmovingart@gmail.com
00:40:24 Dan Bailiff: AHO!
00:40:35 Daniel Rieders: a-hoo
00:41:31 marciaraffstudio: he’s wonderful nd lives in Oak Prk I believe
00:41:59 marciaraffstudio: He used t live in Oak Park..but doesn’t matter where we live right now
00:42:18 Kurt Krueger: Just email you . I’ll call her after we get off
00:42:25 Shannon McArthur: doesn’t matter where we live physically, yes, Marcia… I’m here for you Heather!
00:42:41 Lucy Rieger: holding all in compassion, understanding and care
00:42:57 Julie Wolf: We can find you what you need Heather
00:43:38 Daniel Rieders: perhaps you are in an awakening, heather, in a dark night, stay in the moment, and let it rip you apart, if you have the heart for it
00:44:38 sallyannett: i-think-jean-wanted-to-speak
00:44:40 Daniel Rieders: maybe there is nothing broken, nothing to fix
00:45:52 Daniel Rieders: maybe she is connected to her higher self
00:46:42 marciaraffstudio: Dan, you are a blessing!
00:46:43 sallyannett: grace-dan
00:47:39 Kurt Krueger: Blessings abound when We’re around!
00:47:40 Daniel Rieders: maybe the message - connect to your mary magdalena part - perhaps the medicine
00:47:59 sallyannett: stella-maris
00:48:02 Malini Rajendran - Infinite Life: Thank you Dan. For saying what needed to be said.
00:48:34 Daniel Rieders: what written on your forearm Heather
00:48:39 Shannon McArthur: and the phone rings to emphasize the message!!
00:48:52 Heather Frase: forwardmovingart@gmail.com
00:49:03 David Cadman: My dear friends, please forgive me, but I have to go
00:49:05 marciaraffstudio: Andrew Harvey is all soul!
00:49:19 Shannon McArthur: David - thank you so much for coming!
00:49:21 sallyannett: thank-you-davidxx
00:49:45 sallyannett: ihavetogoinasec-toox
00:49:45 Kurt Krueger: DAVID, THANKS FOR BEING HERE
00:50:01 Kurt Krueger: CU Sally
00:50:19 Julie Wolf: Dan you are healing us all with your love. Thank you Dan and all for loving Heather in a moment of need of love and support.
00:50:20 Leo Jacoby: I resonated with theme of silence that David introduced; I put some references in chat from high school days.
My daughter in Chicago is a social justice Catholic and tells a poignant story. The family set up an annual altar for The Day of the Dead. The 3 year old (my granddaughter) was horrified by the sight of a crucifix on the family altar; she wailed "I don't want Jesus in my heart, I want Opa and Grammy in my heart." (her experience of love.) Sadly, we have too few Grammy images of the elder Mary (ala crone images by Thomas Dodd?)
cf. Matthew Fox's call from Original Sin to Original Blessing.
00:50:49 Shannon McArthur: thank you, DanB for your gentle wisdom, guiding words, and your generosity!
00:51:48 Karen Ball: We mirror one another
00:52:14 sallyannett: bye-guysxxx-loveyou
00:52:15 Heather Frase: thank you
00:52:29 marciaraffstudio: bye Sally feel good
00:52:30 Shannon McArthur: bye Sally, thank yo for coming - stay well! Be well!!
00:52:35 Julie Wolf: bye Sally
00:52:45 Daniel Rieders: bye sally
00:54:09 Shannon McArthur: sometimes love doesn’t wear the garb we expect…
00:54:23 Julie Wolf: Do we want to invite Heaterh to our ActionPeople email list?
00:54:33 Shannon McArthur: of course.
00:54:36 Daniel Rieders: Clare you will always be jewish, your ancestral maps
00:54:40 Julie Wolf: so she can email us all for support if needed
00:55:34 marciaraffstudio: andrew Harvey does the Hail Mary like no one else in the world!
00:55:44 Leo Jacoby:
Is silence where all the traditions meet?
Archetypes apply across the board of religious expression.
00:55:56 Heather Frase: kuan yin
00:56:40 Shannon McArthur: we are being mixed in beauty - seeking beauty, we find the path that is exclusively ours..
00:56:45 Daniel Rieders: mystical traditions are amazingly same
00:57:04 Julie Wolf: Kuan Yin inspired my own identity this life. Compassion, unconditionally.
00:58:07 David S: @ Heather - During the meditation in silence offered by David Cadman, I focused on my breathing and used a prayer mantra directed toward the Source: “Guidance, strength, courage†over and over. The three minutes seemed only to last for seconds and there was peace… David Stoney
00:58:36 David S: About naming the Source: There was a middle-aged guru in India who one day vowed to remain silent until he could say the true name of God. He died in silence. Oh, oh, this story reminds me of Paul Tillich’s writings… David Stoney
00:58:46 Heather Frase: indigenous wisdom is a big part of my path too Doreen
00:59:07 David S: “The courage to be which is rooted in the experience of the God above the God of theism unites and transcends the courage to be as a part ad the courage to be as oneself. It avoids both the loss of oneself by participation and the loss of one’s world by individualization. The acceptance of the God above the God of theism makes us a part of that which is not also a part but is the ground of the whole. Therefore the self is not lost in a larger whole, which submerges it in the life of a limited group. If the self participates in the power of being-itself it receives itself back.†(Paul Tillich, The Courage to Be, 1952)
00:59:13 Daniel Rieders: so true Malini and Lesley
00:59:52 Shannon McArthur: ego does not die - it is the canoe we ride through this world. Occasionally it is holed by darkness
00:59:58 Shannon McArthur: imho
01:00:03 Daniel Rieders: however, the soul can have a dark night, as the soul is evolving, the soul’s journey… true, most are dark nights of the ego
01:00:10 Julie Wolf: Heather do you know of the Dec 11 - 22 Worldfire, Indigenous People uniting the world? Its on Zoom at theconversation.cc It has inspired me so!
01:00:35 Daniel Rieders: the time is right, now
01:01:49 Shannon McArthur: tuning my soul…
01:06:48 Leo Jacoby: https://genius.com/Natalie-merchant-motherland-lyrics
01:09:53 Ken Haldenstein (he/him): Beautiful music Heather, thank you!
01:10:18 Daniel Rieders: 100% protection,
01:11:15 marciaraffstudio: Lesley, you are amazing. xxoo’s
01:11:35 David S: Thanks Heather… beautiful, deeply heartfelt. Stay strong… David Stoney
01:11:48 Daniel Rieders: xxooxx Lesley
01:12:02 marciaraffstudio: I wish all of that to you, Lesley.
01:12:17 Neela.Saxena@ncc.edu: Amazing session with heartbreak and joy. Thank you.
01:12:50 David S: Health, wholeness, courage…. David Stoney
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