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10:50:50 From Stan Pokras to Host and Panelists:

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               Welcome to Humanity Rising

               With Love...          

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11:09:22 From Robert Hayes to Everyone:

   clocks good.

11:09:32 From Robert Hayes to Everyone:

   looks good.

11:10:41 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Welcome to Day 693 of Humanity Rising with a two part episode.

11:12:44 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:

   Thank you for sharing, Tatiana!

11:14:30 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:

   Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!

11:14:59 From Barbara Widhalm to Everyone:

   Russian house was a highlight for me and my daughter for many years

11:15:33 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   SHANNON attracted Jim to Kamloops?

11:16:07 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:

   Kurt? I don’t know what you mean… I came in late; update me!

11:16:17 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:

   I ate there one time, since I live nearby. It was a unique experience of community and good food.

11:16:53 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Shannon, look above your name in your reply to me

11:17:16 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Fascinating and courageous business & ministry project!  I love your blend of community, great food, and a transpersonal focus on personal growth!  Beautiful!

11:17:25 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:

   Food unites us… like Water unites Life.

11:17:32 From Barbara Widhalm to Everyone:

   We felt welcome and encouraged to offer our gifts, to share ideas, recipes, laughter, music -

11:17:58 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:

   Not sure how that message from me from Canada happened just now. I’m in California and did not send it. But greetings from the land of the Miwok.

11:18:56 From Jim Garrison to Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network, Host and Panelists:

   How did I attract Jim to Kamloops, Kurt? Is he coming here? I need to know what you mean… And let’s not have this conversation here. See you in the AfterChat.

11:19:34 From Connie and Andrew to Everyone:

   TRUST!! We will be presenting the principles of The Trust Frequency on HR on Thursday! Join Connie Baxter Marlow and Andrew Cameron Bailey, authors of "THE TRUST FREQUENCY: Ten Assumptions for a New Paradigm," on as they share an understanding of the nature of the Universe that synthesizes indigenous cosmology, unified physics, Eastern and Western mysticism and plain common sense. They offer practical tools for a shift in consciousness that will usher in a new world of peace, harmony and abundance. FB Event: ::https://fb.me/e/3AhhUlEfI:: ❤️🕊️

11:19:48 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Shannon, somehow your registered today as Jim. Change your Zoom name.

11:20:58 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:

   I’m not visible (I HOPE) but I will do what I can, Stan. Thanks!

11:22:39 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you, Jim, for making it possible for me to be here, when Zoom forgot to send me the Zoom link this morning. Great to see Solution seeking is happening in Russia, too.

11:23:50 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   3

   Thesis

   according James Sire

   New World View

   Seven questions:

   1. What is prime reality — the really real?

   2. What is the nature of external reality, that is, the world around us?

   3. What is the human being?

   4. What happen to a person at death?

   5. Why it is possible to know anything at all?

   6. How do we know what is right and wrong?

   7. What is the meaning of human history?

11:24:04 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you, Leo!!

11:25:34 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   I love this! I am/you are an Ambassador of the Mystery!!

11:26:19 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_W._Sire::

11:26:30 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   I believe that Tatiana mentioned being a follower of the 20th Century philosopher, Gurdjieff. I happen to have a book by Fritz Peters titled “Boyhood with Gurdjieff” which tells the story of Fritz’s life with his parents as a resident of Gurdjieff’s residential school community.

11:27:50 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   putevoditel@gmail.com

11:28:07 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   ::Https://enlightenment.expert/::

11:28:24 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   ::Https://shiram.daism.ru::

11:28:54 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you so much, Tatiana!! Very interesting work!

11:30:52 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Tatianna, thank you!  Your presentation would be warmly welcome by YESmagazine.org (our local "solutions journalism" Innovative, cutting edge, grass roots global SOUL-U-TIONS!

11:32:33 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:

   Might be difficult for her to talk about.

11:34:00 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

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   ::https://noblegoldman.com/fun/intentional-change-network/kurtkrueger::   

   Once registered, you may join the hour weekly PeaceMakers Circle/Network.

11:34:32 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Tatiana, if I heard your mention of Gurjieff correctly. Do you have any writing about your interest in his unique perspective?

11:35:07 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Citizen Diplomacy is what happens in PeaceMakers Circles !

11:35:08 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   A message to President Putin from Pussy Riot recently at TED 2023. How do we find peace? ::https://blog.ted.com/nadya-tolokonnikova-message-to-vladimir-putin-ted2023/::

11:35:11 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   ::https://www.shorter.edu/wp-content/uploads/1-Christian-Worldview-1.pdf:: ("In The Universe Next Door, James Sire defines worldview as “a commitment, a fundamental orientation of the heart, that can be expressed as a story or in a set of presuppositions (assumptions which may be true, partially true, or entirely false) which we hold (consciously or subconsciously, consistently or inconsistently) about the basic constitution of reality, and that provides the foundation on which we live and move, and have our being” < Sire, The Universe Next Door, 5th ed.,18-24)."

11:35:20 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   ::https://www.understandingwar.org/:: ("In this 2019 report, Nataliya Bugayova breaks down the trajectory of Russian foreign policy after the fall of the USSR. She argues that the US mistakingly believed that a brief period of non-assertive foreign policy from the mid-1980s to mid-1990s was the new norm for Russia.")   

   ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Gurdjieff::

11:35:35 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Thank you Tatiana for your insight!

11:35:37 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Tatiana, if I heard your mention of Gurjieff correctly. Do you have any writing about your interest in his unique perspective?

11:35:51 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Tatianna, your spiritual and transpersonal understandings SHINE THRU all your creative community building.  THANK YOU AGAIN!

11:36:13 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   The TED Talk Kat posted is a powerful alternative view on Russia

11:37:45 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   With Love...          

               Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

                       You can join the After Chat here:       

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               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

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11:37:51 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Love Colorado! Parker is a beautiful spot in Earth.

11:39:07 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   The Guesthouse by Rumi:                                                  This being human is a guest house.

   Every morning a new arrival.   

   A joy, a depression, a meanness,

   some momentary awareness comes

   as an unexpected visitor.   

   Welcome and entertain them all!

   Even if they’re a crowd of sorrows,

   who violently sweep your house

   empty of its furniture,

   still, treat each guest honorably.

   He may be clearing you out

   for some new delight.   

   The dark thought, the shame, the malice,

   meet them at the door laughing,

   and invite them in.   

   Be grateful for whoever comes,

   because each has been sent

   as a guide from beyond.   

   Jalaluddin Rumi

11:39:22 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   GREG, GREAT VIEW of the ROCKIES from Parker. My old roommate from CU lives in Parker, Glen “Trig” Gamble. Do you happen to know him?

11:39:30 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you, Kat, and Rumi!!

11:40:24 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   @Shannon Of such variant dimensions of contribution, humbly we are all welcome.

11:40:45 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   ::http://poll.com::

11:42:18 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Genius work!!

11:42:41 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Collective consciousness expression…

11:42:46 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   What a wow of a quilt! Not like the ones I see in Ninilchik, Alaska fair crafted in the dark of winter each year.

11:44:11 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Guernica! ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guernica_(Picasso):: It is stunningly horrific in person.

11:45:25 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Yes, Kat. I got to see it while in NYC in the early 70’s when it was on loan from Spain.

11:45:43 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   I like word-clouds… here’s one I made… ::https://chng.it/qTkyYXCC::

11:46:17 From Anna Geuzebroek to Host and Panelists:

   Hi, yesterday I found your website, what a joy, thank you.

11:46:20 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Stan, good one!

11:46:49 From Shannon McArthur to Anna Geuzebroek, Host and Panelists:

   Which website are you speaking of, Anna?

11:47:03 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   @Greg how was it that, of all the ways in which you could Xpress/Xplore your imagination/purpose in life, you chose quilting? You might enjoy in Lincoln, Nebraska the International Quilting Museum: ::https://www.internationalquiltmuseum.org/::

11:48:15 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Wow! 40% IS huge!!

11:49:49 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Kara Walker: ::https://www.moma.org/artists/7679::

11:49:54 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Greg, this is classic regenerative health!  Thanks to your imaginative, collaborative, bold, synthesis of creativity - as a META HEALING TOOL.

11:50:10 From Anna Geuzebroek to Host and Panelists:

   Today I have to leave at 6 o’clock CET time, Netherlands. Ohhhh I’m new and did not pay attention, I was interested! Greg Katz. Tomorrow I’ll be here again. I’m interested in your work and how I could contribute.

11:51:45 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   You can see the replay on YouTube and access the links to this Day’s YouTube along with chat and the AfterChat and its chat at ::https://othernetworks.org/HR!Day693::

11:52:20 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Vijay Kumar: ::https://www.thehindubusinessline.com/blink/watch/my-approach-has-always-been-emotional-vijay-kumar/article31921769.ece::

11:52:22 From Robert Hayes to Everyone:

   Watch "'It's about time you started to work for PEACE!' - MEP Clare Daly- speech from 8 May 2023" on YouTube   

   ::https://youtu.be/Z-V_QM8PNC0::

11:54:50 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   We are particles in the waves of time…

11:55:50 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   OMG, thank you for mentioning this YES issue! Check it out - online and print form. Fall in love with classy, classic,  BEST IN CLASS "solutions journalism"🌹

11:55:50 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Suicide in Colorado among youth. ::https://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2021/06/24/self-harm-teen-suicides-colorado-increase-significantly-from-2010-2020/7526792002/::

11:58:07 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Right!

11:59:48 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   GREG,Please Collaborate with us and add your insightful, Artistic, educational, healing view of creating more Peace to our Peace Lab pages on OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab. Thank You God

12:00:37 From Kim Kerrigan to Host and Panelists:

   Your impressive decades in the profession shine thru ALL your multidimensional comments.  No higher compliment from an Antioch student, professor, and clinician of 44 years.

12:01:02 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Can we even imagine the surgeries that are taking place daily in Ukraine?

12:02:09 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Very touching, important question Kat.  War creates ONLY atrocities.  NO healing!  ONLY prevention!

12:03:05 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Frida was also in a very abusive relationship with the artist Diego Rivera: ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frida_Kahlo::

12:04:09 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   How do we live PRECAUtIONARILY when so many risk edges are being approached?

12:04:30 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Whoa, thank you for illuminating that fact - another form of violence in relationship, destroying health.

12:06:53 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   TELL OUT STORIES WITHOUT TELLING OUR STORIES.

12:07:38 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Stunning!  Artistic intelligence as creative process!

12:07:47 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   People are people before they are confined /put in boxes/ by words.

12:09:39 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   I am taking my friend for thyroid surgery in 5 minutes.

12:09:57 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Wow, Kat. Synchrony…

12:10:08 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Brilliant session! Thank you so very much!

12:11:03 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Blessings for the BEST possible collaborative healing outcome!  Sending love!

12:12:58 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Blessings for Lauren Meyers welcome! Kim & all!

12:13:50 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   WOW. Talk about INsights.

12:13:51 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Collage a day!

12:14:11 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Impressive daily artistic discipline! 🤩

12:14:31 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   2. Family affairs

12:14:48 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   LOVE your FANS encircling your story!

12:15:17 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Rings of wonder & kids crouching & Black & White in a world of upside down & Sourcing

12:16:50 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   SO very, very sorry for your loss and celebrating her impacting your Expressions Greg!\

12:17:09 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you SO much, Greg!! This was great, and a huge credit to your teacher.

12:17:46 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   Very interesting.  Thank you!

12:17:49 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Beloved Teacher!  Beautiful loving tribute!  THANKS Greg!

12:17:56 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:

   Such a wonderful session. Very moving.

12:18:09 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Gorgeous Greg on Instagram: ::https://www.instagram.com/drfiber/::

12:18:09 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   A different way of understanding the world.

12:18:35 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:

   I sometimes despair when trying to put feelings into words, so look forward to making pictures instead!  Thank you.

12:18:48 From Valerie Murray to Host and Panelists:

   I really wonder about all of these side conversations and comments on the chat while someone is offering a presentation.  New world definition of paying attention and respectful listening?  Greg’s presentation deserved full attention.  Ever thought of turning chat off while the presenter is on?

12:18:59 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Remember the naked girl running from explosives in Vietnam?

12:19:28 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Valerie Murray to Host and Panelists (12:18 PM)

   I really wonder about all of these side conversations and comments on the chat while someone is offering a presentation.  New world definition of paying attention and respectful listening?  Greg’s presentation deserved full attention.  Ever thought of turning chat off while the presenter is on?

12:19:41 From Dennis Kelly to Everyone:

   Thank You Greg for expanding my way of looking at life.

12:19:42 From Amy Blumenshine to Host and Panelists:

   Hello to Greg, my dissertation writing buddy!  Congrats!

12:20:27 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Valerie, you are welcome to curate your own experience by turning off the chat. This is the way we have come to be here in Humanity Rising.

12:21:21 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:

   I wonder if there might want to be some distinctions created between art & expression.  All we put into the distinction “art” is destroying art as we know it.

12:21:28 From Valerie Murray to Everyone:

   Not the point, Shannon, not by a long shot, but thank you for your suggestion.

12:21:51 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Yes, Full Circle expression of DEEP human suffering - both personal and collective!  So creative, caring, fluid, and deeper access to the heart, soul, and spiritual realms!  Delicious connections!

12:22:09 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:

   On the other hand, discovering ways for people to express themselves is a very different ballgame.  Let’s explore.

12:22:48 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Greg, I think that you would enjoy becoming familiar with Gurdjieff…. I believe that Tatiana mentioned being a follower of the 20th Century philosopher, Gurdjieff. I happen to have a book by Fritz Peters titled “Boyhood with Gurdjieff” which tells the story of Fritz’s life with his parents as a resident of Gurdjieff’s residential school community.

12:23:28 From Kim Kerrigan to Host and Panelists:

   Greg, please share the amazing story of how you discovered fiber arts?

12:24:59 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   With Love...          

               Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

                       You can join the After Chat here:       

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               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

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12:27:11 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:

   That was such a good idea - a theme song!

12:27:31 From Kim Kerrigan to Host and Panelists:

   Frequency, sound, vibrations, music, and movement are profound healing tools.  "Take care of all the electrons" 🤩

12:28:23 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diving_Bell_and_the_Butterfly_(film::: Jean-Dominique Bauby (Mathieu Amalric), editor-in-chief of French fashion bible Elle magazine, has a devastating stroke at age 43. The damage to his brain stem results in locked-in syndrome, with which he is almost completely paralyzed and only able to communicate by blinking an eye.)

   ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Diving_Bell_and_the_Butterfly::

   ::https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/193755.The_Diving_Bell_and_the_Butterfly::

12:29:15 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   From tactile arousal to PBS to "career arousal"!!  LOVE THIS STORY!😂 Touch Master!

12:29:59 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:

   Not surprised that Gregg is an Enneagram 4!

12:31:09 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Jim Why did you mention Enneagram when you started asking about Gurdjieff?

12:32:25 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:

   Didn't Gurdjieff suggest we dance the enneagram?

12:33:06 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:

   Gurdjieff introduced the enneagram, didn’t he?

12:33:11 From RuthAnn Lenape to Everyone:

   Will Tatiana & Greg be in after chat ?

12:33:15 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Yes, Judy - George Gurdjieff introduced the Enneagram diagram (the lines of the triangle and the concept of  the 142857 number sequence) to the public in 1923.

12:33:24 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Magnificent example of self directed learning!  A divine connection between student, learners, and creativity of learning - no higher compliment - especially from an Antioch student & prof😍😎🤩Your MUSES are DELIGHTFUL!

12:33:37 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Though he didn’t actually create it (alone!)

12:34:04 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

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12:34:23 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

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12:34:25 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you so much, Greg!! And Tatiana

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