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Humanity Rising Day 939 Chat Page   –   Tuesday June 11, 2024

Text of the Zoom Chat from Humanity Rising Day 939

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11:01:02 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Good day to Tom and you all! Sparkling blessings and loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc peoples now known as Kamloops, BC, Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!

11:01:39 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:

   Hi Shannon, when do you go to Mexico?

11:02:06 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   I leave on Saturday, so take care of Stan and the place while I’m gone, K?

11:02:20 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Welcome to Day 939 of Humanity Rising

11:12:56 From Andrew Stock to Everyone:

   ::https://www.bmcm.org/store/?collection=christian-classics:: Three books about Christian mysticism

11:14:53 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   QUESTION LUKE, What would your Christian mystics say about: Seeing God in Each Other, AND Know that God dwells within you as YOU! A prompt given by Muktananda.

11:18:05 From Andrew Stock to Host and Panelists:

   We can have community and teachers but in the end it’s work done when you’re on your own.

11:19:08 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   PLEASE set the “To” to “Everyone” so all can see your comments.

11:19:13 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Fascinating question Kurt:  What is the essence of spiritual intimacy?  Creator for, thru, by, and AS YOU.  Another way to perceive this is: God is the space in-between us = relationships.

11:20:03 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:

   The New Message: Comprehending God:

   ::https://www.newmessage.org/the-message/volume-1/one-god/comprehending-god/::

11:20:20 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Nicely explained, Luke. Thank you.

11:21:38 From Connie and Andrew to Everyone:

   Wow! Luke. Love your bringing in the We - the collective!

11:21:42 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:

   ::https://www.newmessage.org/the-message/volume-1/one-god/how-god-speaks-to-the-world/::

11:21:57 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:

   The Heart og God

   ::https://www.newmessage.org/the-message/volume-1/one-god/the-heart-of-god/::

11:22:29 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   From the Q&A: Marilyn King       11:21 AM

   Does “ A Course of Love ‘ via Mari Perron have a connection or echo what your work brings forth?

11:22:55 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:

   ::https://www.newmessage.org/the-message/volume-1/pure-religion/gods-ancient-covenant-with-humanity/::

11:23:55 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Nelleke, we heard from Marshall and Reed, the founders of The New Message here on Humanity Rising, Day 908 Mon 4/29/24 ETs who are Allies of Humanity and ::https://othernetworks.org/HR!Day881::

11:24:14 From Marilyn Steele to Host and Panelists:

   Yes, Kim, God in the in-between. And in that way we also change, influence God (Jungian Larry Jaffe had some great writing/thinking on this “Liberating the Heart”)

11:24:15 From Connie and Andrew to Everyone:

   Yes - through our hearts we access Christ consciousness. Jesus embodied this frequency - Jesus, the Christ.

11:24:29 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   With Love...          

                  Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

                          You can join the After Chat here:       

       ::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::   

                  Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

                  Passcode: 919541       

                               ..oOo..

11:24:38 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   QUESTION: WHAT IS NOT GOD?

11:24:44 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:

   ::https://www.newmessage.org/the-message/volume-1/pure-religion/gods-new-message-for-the-worlds-religions/::

11:24:48 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:

   ::https://www.newmessage.org/the-message/volume-4/the-new-god-experience/experiencing-god/::

11:24:58 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Here’s the other link, Nelleke, this one is Marshall’s appearance here: ::https://othernetworks.org/HR!Day908::

11:24:59 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   “To not just be alone with God together—but to be together with God together—this actually increases our own inner capacity of consciousness, growth, and love.”

   — LUKE HEALY (great quote Luke!)

11:25:28 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:

   ::https://www.newmessage.org/the-message/volume-4/the-new-god-experience/deep-union-god/::

11:26:24 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:

   ::https://www.newmessage.org/the-message/volume-4/the-new-god-experience/the-new-god-experience/::

11:26:29 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   ::https://www.thriftbooks.com/w/when-god-talks-back-understanding-the-american-evangelical-relationship-with-god_tm-luhrmann/868981/#edition=7406207&idiq=5944900::

   

   Plurality of experiences.

11:26:34 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   A natural befuddling with mystical experiences… yes! And forgetfulness! Write down your experience and let it settle in…

11:27:09 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:

   Trusting God...

   ::https://www.newmessage.org/the-message/volume-4/the-new-god-experience/trusting-god/::

11:27:15 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Jiyun, that looks interesting. Thanks!

11:28:43 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Like Teotihuacan!!

11:29:27 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Send your email address to receive links to the recording and the CHAT

11:29:50 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:

   Its good to be able to share the experience with someone one trusts.  I have been lucky to have a spiritual director I could go to.

11:31:28 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   ON A HIJACKED AIRPLANE IN 1977! 🙂

11:31:38 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Mystical experience

11:31:45 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:

   Absolutely.

11:33:12 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   BE STILL AND KNOW THAT I AM GOD!

11:33:15 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Meditatre

11:33:20 From Frederick Moon to Host and Panelists:

   For links in chat…frederick.moon@gmail.com

11:33:56 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Host and Panelists:

   What is the link to the WE SPACE,   PLEASE

11:34:10 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:

   I had the great good fortune to have had a Clergyman who  had mystical experiences involving   Jesus and St. Stephen the first Christian Martyr.

11:34:34 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   ProBiotic that anyone can take to cure humanity’s inhumanity to others ~ AND bring a Peace that surpasses understanding. It also brings Super Concentration opening one to inspiration and enthusiasm. To be fully effective, this gets to be done periodically through the day, until well practiced to fully work.  It also leads to clearer thinking and stress reduction..

   

   Let’s start practicing this Psycho-somatic-emotional-spiritual practice ~ ThePeaceMaker Meditation so that we BreedLOVE. Here’s a 8 minute video describing PeaceMaker Meditation. ::https://youtu.be/8pbxX8o2WmA?si=uLAWqrODttwA1_rg::   Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace will reverberate throughout your day… This cue-word/mantra is used in your HOME language.

11:35:56 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:

   What is the link to.  WE SPACES.    ?

11:36:00 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Soul is eternal ? Rebirthing? Resurrecting? Is self-reclaiming? Rather than self-abandoning?

   

   Practicing direct experiences as radiant radical (love) Christ consciousness? Raising consciousness?

   

   Does gathering impact activism of transforming societal cultural spaces of enslaved enslaving systems? How Is this like evangelical mindset?

11:36:15 From Andrew Stock to Everyone:

   Forward thinking Episcopal Church, meets in circles. In San Francisco ::https://www.saintgregorys.org/::

11:36:47 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   IntrigalChristianNetwork.org

11:37:02 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   That’s wrong...

11:37:08 From Roshana Ariel to Host and Panelists:

   INTEGRAL

11:37:14 From Frances Ann Wylie-Toal to Everyone:

   I just got a chill, will meet you in the field! ❤️

11:37:15 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   IntegralChristianNetwork.org

11:37:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   THAT works.

11:38:03 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   ::http://IntegralChristianNetwork.org::

11:38:27 From cathy weitznr to Everyone:

   chills :-)

11:39:56 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Gathering a global community of dedicated mystical practitioners for the loving evolution of Christianity and the world.

11:40:49 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:

   Thank you Shannon ! I will utilise the links you gave to view their offering, with regard to Reeds upcoming presentations

11:41:49 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Oh? Is Reed returning?

11:42:10 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Loving your important, astute questions Jiyun!

11:42:37 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   ::https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perichoresis::

11:43:13 From Bruce Davis to Everyone:

   There is no religion higher than truth 🙏

11:43:28 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Love you @kim and cherish your sharing.

11:43:40 From Andrew Stock to Everyone:

   Knowing the divine spark within and seeing in it others

11:44:06 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   ::https://www.cambridge.org/core/books/abs/cambridge-companion-to-christian-mysticism/apophatic-and-cataphatic-theology/331064945ACFA0D54E87F62A3D1387FD::

11:44:22 From Nelleke McGrath to Everyone:

   4 live ZOOM seminars, June 20, 27, July 4 and 11

11:44:37 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Gaia is a God; Sol is a God - we are too, but we’re still in separation mode.  We are getting ourSelf together, having engaged in the lessons of millennia of human lives.  Just a different perspective…

11:45:42 From Bruce Davis to Everyone:

   I feel these scriptures are universally applicable 🙏.

   

   ::https://www.estherdorotik.net/blog/10-promises-seeking-god-30-bible-verses-seeking-god/::

11:45:45 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   So touching Jiyun, thank you!  Deeply appreciate your insights, questions, sharing, too!💚🌍😇

11:46:31 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   @shannon

   

   Absolutely!  Gaia Pachamama

   

   Local and global deities plurality

   William James’s book Varieties of Religious Experience and A Pluralistic Universe.

   

   Inquires of - One and many?

11:47:52 From Bruce Davis to Everyone:

   🙏 ::https://bible.knowing-jesus.com/topics/Mystery::

11:48:32 From Roshana Ariel to Everyone:

   Someone’s got their mic on.

11:48:48 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   How does one address the Christian power brokers political controlling through fear? as golden shadow? Atrocities in the name of god? (Thanks Tom… yes!)

11:49:00 From Michael Putz to Stan Pokras(Direct Message):

   Can you mute Bob Rees

11:49:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Yes, Roshana, I think maybe Michael has someone with him.

11:49:29 From Michael Putz to Stan Pokras(Direct Message):

   He Is on as a panelist with my name

11:49:39 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Nope, it’s not Michael.

11:49:54 From Bruce Davis to Everyone:

   You guys are are awesome 🖖❤️‍🔥

11:50:27 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:

   Stan, there’s someone (a woman) with an active mic that is creating interference. Can you tell? Turn her off?

11:51:03 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:

   Thanks Jiyun, William Blake is a good source for this.

11:51:13 From Stan Pokras to Michael Putz(Direct Message):

   You’re co-host and can mute anyone now.

11:52:04 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Love and gratitude for we space Christian brothers so what about sisters and June month of love is love LGQTIA?

11:52:07 From Marilyn Steele to Host and Panelists:

   In this enormous time of the turning of the ages, the changing of the gods, it is so heartening to see/hear the divine Feminine returning: relational, embodied, participatory, of the earth and cosmos. Both inclusive and within.

11:53:16 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:

   Oops, Meant William James.

11:53:19 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   William James too… love William Blake.

11:53:25 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Lol

11:53:35 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   💜

11:53:58 From Stan Pokras to Shannon McArthur, Host and Panelists:

   I made Michael co-host to handle stray voices.

11:54:21 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Zoom makes God accessible and safe. No clerics taking advantage of their position and the ability to easily try different spaces out… I think this is a very positive movement!

11:54:50 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   QuestionL  Does WESPACE advocate for indigenous rights and the rights of nature?  Do you recognize the role of Western Christian Hegemony?  What is your conscious response to 1000 years of Christian Imperialism?  How do you understand and address the shadow of the Catholic Church?  Namely: sexual abuse?  Land theft?  Funding wars?  Are these themes, truths, and questions welcome, respected, honored, and cherished in WE SPACE?  Thank you for addressing these challenging questions!

11:54:51 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Marilyn Steele to Host and Panelists (11:52 AM)

   In this enormous time of the turning of the ages, the changing of the gods, it is so heartening to see/hear the divine Feminine returning: relational, embodied, participatory, of the earth and cosmos. Both inclusive and within.

11:54:51 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Absolutely!

11:55:09 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:

   Thanks, Stan. It’s confusing to me… who could it be?

11:55:18 From Marilyn Steele to Everyone:

   In this enormous time of the turning of the ages, the paradigm shift, the changing of the gods, it is so heartening and hopeful to see/hear the Feminine face of god returning. Relational. Connected. Embodied. Of the earth, the cosmos, all beings.

11:55:20 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:

   The Marriage of Heaven and Hell sees perfect for this discussion.

11:55:30 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   YES Stan!  Well said!  🥰

11:56:11 From Stan Pokras to Shannon McArthur, Host and Panelists:

   Michael shared his account with someone.

11:56:57 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Excellent intergenerational awareness and question Michael! Thank you!

11:57:14 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Stan, thanks for all your help today!

11:57:33 From Marilyn Steele to Everyone:

   I also love the stated truth of mystical experiences being available to everyone, at any time. This is who we are and these experiences do not have to be mediated by the priests or any hierarchy. As the Gnostics knew. And indigenous wisdom.

11:59:39 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Can we space truly exist without healing the closet cellar caves? Participants by-passing? To feel good? Safe happy? Both-and doing the decolonization work? Non-duality? Gnostic means knowledge… as god. Heaven on earth - healing 70% victim states with historic persecution?

   

   What’s god-self experiencing impact on above victim states?

12:00:50 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   I’ll stop here.

   

   Thanks so much.

   Important conversations here and appreciate each and all of you - grateful.

   

   Christ consciousness = buddha nature?  What’s shared experiences and gnostic?

12:01:50 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

                          You can join the After Chat here:       

       ::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::   

                  Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

                  Passcode: 919541       

                               ..oOo..

12:01:55 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   So can you be a muslim in your mystical meetings without changing?

12:01:55 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Oh Jiyun, never stop!! Just intermissions…

12:03:48 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Outstanding books:  "The Lost Years of Jesus" and "The Pagan Christ" and "Jesus and the Lost Goddess" and "Living in the Shadow of the Cross"  Highly recommended!🙏💚🌍

12:04:24 From Marilyn Steele to Everyone:

   Gnostics believed each of us born with a divine spark, and we can have direct knowing of God as well. The Christian Church and other institutionalized religions tended to elect hierarchies (male) of authority that you would need to contact God. So a Gnostic can know God directly, as Luke is talking about.

12:05:18 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:

   Life is a big Rehab Center.

12:05:20 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Great point and image Luke!  

   "Stepping on each other's toes, makes dancing better, more lively, interesting, and enhanced!🙏

12:05:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thanks, Kim. Those look great.

12:06:40 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Yes  Shannon!  Jesus spent many formative years in MOTHER INDIA!

12:07:32 From Leila Yazigi-Jeantelot to Everyone:

   Being in Christ Consciousness

12:07:53 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Kim, known as “Issa”, I believe…

12:08:16 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Everyone:

   How does WE SPACES relate, participate and engage with The UFO/ UAP DISCLOSURE EVENTS…?

12:08:37 From jiyun park to Everyone:

   Divine spark is nature’s already made genius wisdom deeply personal as universal and not just Christian ? At the heart of Christ is all Abrahamic religions and al religions not text driven like indigenous communities aware of mystical living in daily aliveness of brother plant bison etc?

   

   It’s Christianity better than colonialism imperialism but that historic house keeping is vital both-and ?

   

   Christ is just Jewish historic figure but yes! Luke - being conscientiousness is Buddha Mohammed Gaia kali Durga etc.

   

   Name of 1,000 gods as one?

12:08:48 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:

   It is so simple "Jesus" was saying live in tune with nature as I do, and you can move mountains. Easy to fathom

12:08:52 From Marilyn Steele to Everyone:

   Yes, Christ consciousness, and Sophia consciousness changes how we live and treat each other, and the beautiful Earth.

12:09:42 From Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Host and Panelists:

   How does WE SPACES relate, participate and engage with the UFO/UAP DISCLOSURE EVENTS ?

12:10:08 From Leila Yazigi-Jeantelot to Everyone:

   Thank you Luke, Michael and Tom.  Beautiful work Luke.  Love and Light to all

12:10:30 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Prof Jonathan Paul De Vierville to Host and Panelists (12:09 PM)

   How does WE SPACES relate, participate and engage with the UFO/UAP DISCLOSURE EVENTS ?

12:10:36 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   QUESTION: Why not create MIRACLES?  Are they done when emulating/experimenting with the spirits forced.

12:10:49 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   You can join the After Chat here:       

       ::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::   

                  Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

                  Passcode: 919541       

                               ..oOo..

12:10:53 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   See you there!!

12:10:53 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   THANK YOU LUKE!!! for differentiating "Jesus" and "The Christ"  Indeed, there are MANY "Christed Ascended Masters" So important to understand this!  Christ as a "living adjective" not a NOUN!  Monotheism has gotta go!!! MEANING = MA = MATTER = MOTHER = LOVING GAIA AND ALL HER CREATIONS!  🙏💚🌍 THANK Y OU LUKE, MICHAEL, AND TOM!

12:11:01 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   Delicious conversation, sharing. Go out onto the land! Stand in the waters! Thanks to all!

12:11:20 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   @Kim thanks

12:11:22 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   You can join the After Chat here:       

       ::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::   

                  Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

                  Passcode: 919541       

                               ..oOo..

12:11:22 From Toinya Fomina to Host and Panelists:

   💜

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