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Humanity Rising Day 782 After Chat – Monday October 16, 2023
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00:04:38 Susanne Kasack: we-are-one@bluewin.ch susanne kasack
00:05:10 Albert H. Rowe, AIA, LEED AP: Thank you 🙏🏻
00:09:44 Kat Haber: Peace is complex, hard, nuanced. Is war simple, easy, specific solution route out the terrorists? May peace prevail in all of our hearts.
00:12:19 Kat Haber: I called a mom who is a friend from Palm Springs who is Jewish and has a defense company whose family has relatives in Tel Aviv. We are all human despite our collective need for/ securityfear of the other.
00:14:17 Kat Haber: Israel & Russia both have nuclear weapons and are invading these smaller, less armed border nations. What is the benefit of having borders-separating for security for the bigger bullies?
00:17:02 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: I get to go and visit my sister who just got out of the hospital from pneumonia
00:17:32 Kat Haber: I commend these TEDWomen Talks on Democracy when they are released: YORDANOS EYOEL
Democracy entrepreneur
IRINA KARAMANOS ADRIAN
Former First Lady of Chile
OLEKSANDRA MATVIICHUK
Human rights defender
JANE FERGUSON
War reporter
DASHA NAVALNAYA
Corruption fighter
00:17:53 Bob Hayes: Susan,
Today is a nice day for BIG urban sidewalk ART to happen.
I got a huge box of chalk from the dollar store & I'm sketching some good ideas
including text with “de-escalation,” “ceasefire,” “end to violence” and “restoring calm.”
00:18:22 Stanley Pokras: This is the AfterChat for Day 783
00:20:26 Bob Hayes: Stan, how about legislators who are getting invested in those Excange Traded Funds, etc which offer shares of our biggest military contractors?
00:21:56 Stanley Pokras: Oops today is Day 782 (not 783) of Humanity Rising.
00:24:38 Paul: One of my assignments for my Media Literacy course was to write a few lines on Billy Joel's song WE DDN'T LIGHT THE FIRE; line by line There are sites which deconstruct it line by line with articles in the historic events described.
00:25:33 Kat Haber: I continue to make my personal pathways to inner peace. My eye remains on climate, nuclear free world, and caring for wild lands for all our relations.
00:26:41 Kat Haber: War begins with good people saying/doing no-things.
00:26:48 Kat Haber: With silence.
00:27:49 Josef Princiotta: "Six Million Jews" in print before WW2
00:28:12 David Stoney: Complicity is a reality difficult to acknowledge. A 2-state arrangement was promised when Israel was first established, but it has never happened. Many Israelis are complicit in that failure, a failure which is foundational to the present conflict. I admire Dov’s commitment to not participate. Of course we in the Euroamerican west have our own complicities, e.g., ethnic cleansing, slavery, the climate crisis, militarism, etc.
00:37:45 Bob Hayes: Here’s a glimpse of that map mentioned - from 3 weeks ago. earlier with Bibi's bold red line:
saudi-arabia/a-new-middle-east-netanyahus-vision-sparks-controversy/
I'll try to find a better view somewhere.
00:39:16 Kat Haber: YES, THE CENTERING DISCERNMENT TO PEACE @RUUD.
00:39:23 Bob Hayes: ::https://bnn.network/world/saudi-arabia/a-new-middle-east-netanyahus-vision-sparks-controversy/::
00:47:55 Josef Princiotta: the Protocols of Zion ia a HOAX NOT TRUE.
00:48:50 Ruud West: Like to hear Kat's perspective
00:54:04 Albert H. Rowe, AIA, LEED AP: As much as I deeply appreciate this community and the thoughtful compassionate and intelligent energies brought, it sometimes feels like we’re working through an old paradigm, believe system that is based upon fear
00:55:44 Paul: The incredible comic book writers Will Eisner did a brillain book on the Protocols of the Zions
00:58:08 Albert H. Rowe, AIA, LEED AP: Replying to "As much as I deeply …"
Knowledge
00:58:54 Paul: Listen to THE DOORS- Morrison's father was a famous WWII admiral, which set the tome for his anti-war sentiments.
01:00:56 Kat Haber: Rotary is a network of 1.4 million community civic leaders globally. This is their statement on the Israeli Gaza attack: ::https://www.rotary.org/en/rotary-statement-conflict-israel-and-gaza::
01:01:01 Paul: BUT ALBERT, HUMANITY RISING is about the sharing about the good for the greater masses.
01:02:26 Ruud West: I love what you are expressing Albert. There is a great world beyond the mental and knowledgeable words. That is where we can learn from indigenous cultures.
01:03:35 Paul: We change it through OtherWorlds.
01:03:40 Albert H. Rowe, AIA, LEED AP: Replying to "BUT ALBERT, HUMANITY…"
Yes 🙏
01:05:09 Kat Haber: Rotary might be an effective network to make grassroots advances for peace. Rotary has been funding Peace fellows for decades with masters and PhD degrees. ::https://www.rotary.org/en/promoting-peace-rotarys-peacebuilding-history-around-world::
01:08:57 Paul: See the begine of THE HITCHHIKERS GUIDE TO THE UNIVERSE - So Long and Thanks for the Fish.
01:10:18 Paul: A Shame about your daughter's wedding!
01:10:35 Ruud West: Thank you dear friends for your heartfelt perspectives.
01:10:42 Ruud West: I have to go.
01:10:45 David Stoney: Sadly, I must leave. Love , thanks, and peace to all…
01:11:21 Paul: Yes, OtherNetworks.
01:11:26 Kat Haber: We are practitioners, activists, educators, mediators, and advocates. I find ways that I can connect others with the information I can to weave a stronger peace. I am grateful for each of your dedications to peace in your places. Breathing…
01:12:17 Paul: As I've said, I wish to help after I finish my 8 other projects going on for me.
01:16:06 Paul: I saw this mismanagement when I was in Isreal although they think the US will support them regardless. I loved FUTURESHOCK:
01:16:59 Paul: chosen:
01:19:06 Kat Haber: Meanwhile peace from the north for us all to remember we live in a loving planet ever evolving. ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNq-RBL30Eg::
01:22:51 Paul: Not Karma, but the opposite. Religious Opposition to other spiritual beliefs. I ENDORSE A GOFUNDME for your work and suggest it to Jim Garrison.
01:23:43 Kat Haber: Simon Sinek’s TED Talk on Why in Difficult times: ::https://www.ted.com/talks/simon_sinek_how_to_discover_your_why_in_difficult_times::
01:35:24 Bob Hayes: Nice dealeo - getting them to open them up too.
01:36:23 Kat Haber: Peace be with us everyone!
01:36:46 Bob Hayes: Enjoy your day!
01:37:43 Albert H. Rowe, AIA, LEED AP: Thank you Stanley 🙏
01:37:48 Paul: GOOD LUCK TO US ALL!!
01:39:06 Paul: Neither do I about our birth path
01:43:12 Paul: This is why we need a GoFind Me for Stan's speaker base
01:48:53 Paul: GoFundMe for you. But 157 organizations is too much for only groovy people to absorb.
01:53:48 Stanley Pokras: Stan@othernetworks.org
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