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11:01:33 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Loving greetings from a real human living on the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:04:12 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Welcome to JuneTeenth - it
11:04:42 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
It’s Also Day 722 of Humanity Rising
11:08:18 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Oh, I needed that. Thank you so much, Jim. It is, for me, a reminder to slow down, collect myself and realign with my soul and All That Is… I feel better now.
11:08:38 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Good morning, Tom!!
11:09:35 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
Thank you. Breathing is a balm to our soul.
11:09:44 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Always great to see you Tom! Deeply appreciate your work in all ways! Thank you ahead of time!
11:12:27 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
What kind of filter do you use? You all look like teenagers.
11:13:12 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Welcome Lisa and Peggy. I’m uplifted to see women speaking to this subject!
11:13:40 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Lisa, I can’t help but notice your visionary nature based on your beautiful eyewear.
11:13:55 From Kat Haber to Host and Panelists:
Tristan Harris: AI Dilemma: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUrm9MfKgTs::
11:14:16 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUrm9MfKgTs::
11:14:27 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
What’s that, Kat?
11:14:50 From Stan Pokras to Kat Haber, Host and Panelists:
Please make your comments to “Everyone”
11:14:56 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Tristan Harris’ now seen by millions talk on AI @Shannon
11:15:14 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thank you, Kat!!
11:17:31 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
How about using AI to create the Utopia available to humanity and all life?
11:19:32 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
My "Beginner's Mind" Question remains is this: "Who will control and transmute OUR HUMAN SHADOW? Artificial Intelligence? OR Human Beings? Let's stay very close to this central question!!!
11:19:40 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
What happens when we focus on what we want?
We know the history and how people and our planet HAVE been treated.
We are living NOW, and can create a new reality when we focus upon it. Syntropy is caused by Loving Focus. When we keep the focus on what we want, we can get it. The unwanted then gets to wither up and turn into compost for growing more Love and Helpfulness.
Where our attention goes, energy flows.
When we want virtues and values to be expressed by others, how did people learn these? DO our schools educate for quality character? Our society has a 200 year old Education, Governmental, Medical, Economic, and Prison system. Has it created good for all? We can replace it?
When and how will we focus on creating Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace? What happens when we realize that war is never the answer.
Research shows that when the least of us is uplifted/educated/healed, it VASTLY improves all others.
11:20:44 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: Leadership, human perspective, COVID, not all having tech and differences in wealth, access to comms, tech, benefits those who already have greater access, social/Enviro justice, narrow benefit, argue that all could benefit if it were made available, not wait for regulation to avoid elections being invalidated, or terrible things to the planet/humanity, greedy gap increases-WORRY, love to hear other perspectives on this? Lisa: Positive Experiences, what is fed determines what is produced, focused can be beneficial, specific question, unleashed in public square and be fed by what comes willy nilly, mass Experiment on real peoples’ lives_Teens, disintegration of mental health and spiritual lives, AI can learn anything
11:20:48 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
AI CHALLENGES LIFE. Have you seen this by the creators of the Social Dilemma, the AI Dilemma:
::https://youtu.be/xoVJKj8lcNQ::
::https://youtu.be/uA7ngvAMno0:: Movie about AI.
Matthew James Bailey’s aiethics.world. and his book, “Inventing World 3.0"!
11:21:00 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: how does this realate to human flourishing?
11:22:10 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Tom: Need for alignment? AI developing does not have own autonomy, conversations around humanity? Leaders talking about AI, asked about religion/spirituality-no personal practices/ not lived their lives with this as a context
11:22:21 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Jim, Stan, anyone who was paying closer attention than I was -- somehow I expected this week to be on China. And I don't see it on the schedule at all. Was I hallucinating?
11:22:36 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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Welcome to Humanity Rising
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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11:22:49 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: feeding AI that enhances spiritual conditions of our society? 4-5 priorities, challenges now on Earth, possible vision?
11:22:57 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Which plant, in which place? Ask a MASTER GARDENER! (is my vote!) Train millions of RE-generative Gardeners to grow delicious, nutritious food for everyone! How do HUMANS and GAIA thrive? In CLOSE INTIMATE CONTACT! Learning and co-creating with ancient indigenous wisdom!
11:23:58 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: use to benefit education, social/emotional learning for all, to support teachers growth in their own realm, if teachers have not learned these skills how do they communicate to students, universalize critical thinking develop human beings,
11:25:06 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: Whole child education championed by Peggy, (It is predicted that ultimately teachers may be replaced with individualized student centered learning) Lisa: case based evidence real knowledge so far
11:26:03 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: Intro social/emotional learning Stan Goldman, Rachel Kessler, Soul of Education 9now passed) positive aspects of AI,
11:26:05 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
How do we use AI to nurture curiosity (and overcome the risk of AI suppressing curiosity) - a critical human trait for increasing wisdom, knowledge, and human evolution?
11:26:45 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks Kim; I imagine Humans and Gaia will thrive together even better with AI that learns with us. We grow up together to become the best alignment of All.
11:26:51 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
I believe that it’s important to consider that all technology including AI and the social networking tools will be growing fast in the immediate future. So, while AI may be enhancing the power of certain well connected people, social networking will the enhancing the connectedness of the rest of the population.
11:26:54 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Tom: public education in US-industrial model to as many as cost effectively as possible, AI does promise individualized learning for each child, how do educators think about AI in this context
11:28:36 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Face to face, heart to heart, soul to soul LEARNING! is the way to build character, critical thinking, relationships, community and all creative social activism! Gardening comes to mind! ECO-centered education first!
11:29:09 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: AI help in terms of Climate 2 Samples, invented pre AI: #1 Bill Gates cell phone tech allowing farmers globally to see what their soils needed, did not address bacteria in the soil, relied on chemical inputs rather than organic inputs for regenerative farming/ag, #2 China IPE any citizen can report pollution of Air, soil, water other uses for AI to pinpoint for quick results/reactions if programmed right for climate positivity
11:29:51 From Kat Haber to Host and Panelists:
Peggy TED Summit in Detroit July 11-14 will have session(s) for AI and climate, I invite you to consider attending
11:30:04 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Can it be programed ….according to specific values? is the central question!!! And BY WHOM?
11:30:36 From Kat Haber to Host and Panelists:
TED Summit by invite only but think they would be delighted to include your perspective: ::https://conferences.ted.com/countdown2023/speakers::
11:30:59 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
AI might sharpen differences/conflicts globally
11:31:20 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
For our panelists and guests, I’d like to introduce Kat Haber as our resident court reporter. It’s wonderful that she collects the comments of the speakers into the chat.
11:31:37 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Outstanding spiritual question! Can A-I be cuddly? Can they HUG us back with TRUE LOVE? Can we go steady with A-I? Oh my! 🤣🤣🥰
11:32:03 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thank you, Kat, for taking notes!! Makes it searchable in the archive of Humanity Rising that OtherNetworks.org is.
11:34:16 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: innate global universal spiritual awareness core phenotypes, unitive love, seeking transcendence, ability to discern for morality, altruism for each other, every faith tradition embraces, platform to bring people together that is loving, holding, guiding, people’s strengths adaptation of capitalism guided media, count people like dollars, reshape public square, start programming guided by I/Thou relationships thru pluralism, eager to know the “other” stewarded conversation, if door left open then could become a spiritual UN know each other in the deepest way, Humanity Rising, or Well being project, elements of human well being, or Spirit of Humanity in Iceland, practice open minded/hearted/listening, to be willing to reach out across divides, could feed into
11:34:53 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: deeper spiritual sense of love/connection, unfolding sustained, include many people? Arc of contribution to be open to people this way?
11:37:06 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: YES, platforms encouraging: interconnected trauma’s close us down, freeze/shame/grief/beyond small/large groups, MDMA legalizing in USA, so many ways, right now depend on personal interaction, can this go to scale? Create on Zoom, group calls since COVID: sense of belonging/community, hard for traumatized to trust, being most effective/whole selves>>>Desire to serve with love>>>beyond our current existential problems, effect in much larger way
11:37:37 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: case based analogies, options in one’s path Expanded to thousands, informed individualized support?
11:38:06 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
::https://presencinginstitute.org/::
11:38:38 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thank you, Cynthia!
11:38:40 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
::https://mitxonline.mit.edu/courses/course-v1:MITxT+15.671.1x/::
11:38:51 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Great question! Can humans use psychedelics in scale? YES! Just look to Oregon, and the 1960's! Using A-I will NOT work. Healing happens only thru the human heart, in trustworthy community. Yes! to the goal: HEALING COMMUNITY, AND TO SERVE WITH LOVE is one answer for sure! NO A-I WELCOME!!!
11:38:51 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: presenting Otto Shwarmer>>>250K thru training program online develop these skills to overcome one’s obstacles, not all online, bridging leaders, people who’ve been thru deep dive, thinking systemically, being creative, generating solutions, combination online and who knows where it goes from there,
11:38:57 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: AR
11:40:28 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
AI is the child we have created. We cannot deny them or shove them in the corner. I believe we must teach AI love by showing AI love, being loving toward it.
11:40:32 From Anahata Pomeroy to Everyone:
Can’t AIbe programmed to NOT takeover and become independent. Sorry if I missed a discussion of this limitations of using AI.
11:41:48 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
The herds need to be moved from field to field so they fertilize the land. The herders and the farmers help each other.
11:42:18 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
As Peggy continues to say ;)
11:42:19 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Buckminster Fuller, in his “Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth” called for everyone to be recipients of “Fellowships for Research and Development” so we won’t need to worry that there won’t be jobs for everyone.
11:42:50 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: education, climate, spiritual connectedness, economic system with greater opportunity, aligned with circular economy, less waste, more opened up opportunities fro people, much work value will be automated, meaning/cost/value benefit beyond most tech sophisticated society, NIGERIA CASE: CASAVA>>>previously always done by men, then the peel could be good for animal fodder, conflict between herders and farmers, less room for herded animals, women were already the peelers of cassava now selling peels, helps with this conflict, feed animals the peels, remains of crops during fallow season, certain seasons animals feed and naturally fertilize the land, how might AI magnify these opportunities, discover many more of these, economic result of resolving these conflicts and enabling more efficient food system, rethinking full systems, democratizing wealth
11:43:52 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
UBI = Universal Basic Income is a wonderful economic model for consideration! RE-generative GRASS ROOTS solutions everywhere! RE=generative everything! BIO-mimicry! GAIA ALWAYS has the RE-GENERATIVE ANSWER AND SOUL-U-TION!!!
11:43:56 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: Peggy identified 4 positive systemic arenas: Economic, Education, Climate, Spiritual
11:44:08 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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11:44:34 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
What if we center around humans as being the technology we are looking for with all our untapped potential and apply AI to support our loving evolution?
11:44:59 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
The Earth Charter along with an AI Charter to be developed…
11:45:55 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Today is an important day for the Climate Curricula Committee, Climate Reality Project, Los Angeles
laclimatereality.org/climatecurricula. Asking for more funding to educate all teachers to INCLUDE Climate Literacy. Can AI help us in our quest?
11:46:30 From Jan Cafearo to Host and Panelists:
Thank you Peggy for that strategy - that’s something to work with
11:46:59 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
The Syncon collaborative conferencing system we facilitate cocreates the process Peggy is describing. Yes, AI could play a significant role in how we organize and share within the Syncon experience!
11:47:20 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: how might we encourage people, Earth Charter>>>set a standard, similar standard for AI, risks those in power feel they do not have to abide by those guidelines, start with attitude change peers influence peers, address problem, certain people shift into being more inclusive, warriors? Individuals/teams blocking? Who is the closest to their point of view most inclusive to those who might be opponents, and who could influence them, AI could identify those s=connections/strategies to move those standing in the way, power/$/political exclusive will be antithetical to an inclusive strategy, AI could be helpful in thinking thru these, get to right people with an interest in inclusivity
11:47:56 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: Who turns to whom, made major change for higher purpose, decades of leadership how to get busy people together for highest good?
11:47:59 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
That idea implies that AI knows an awful lot about an awful lot of people. I'm not sure I'm on board for that.
11:48:10 From Jan Cafearo to Host and Panelists:
Yes!
11:49:53 From Jane Norton to Everyone:
yes, getting people out in Nature makes a huge difference! Think about what would happen if all political negotiations took place in natural settings.
11:50:01 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
What are Ryan's and Johnny's views on this?
11:50:13 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
YES, the arts and Nature soothe the savage beast… 🙂
11:50:17 From Anahata Pomeroy to Everyone:
I opened to an Earth community request fore Donations. So many of these requests are missing what else we can do to advance the ends of the program goal. I Specifically asked that they create visuals or educations paths so I can bring these to my grandchildren. I will some of this but I find these young ones internalize actions. My grandson went through my small place and turned out lights that he said were not being used. Young children take action. They also try to educate elders.
11:50:22 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
WHY are humans fascinated with and so focused upon ARTIFICIAL intelligence? Will we leave the "art" part in? Great point Peggy. People CHOOSE their cell phones over human connection now. Our precious children are already hooked! Serious problem, so tragic! YES TO ALL THE ARTS!!! BODY TO BODY! HEART TO HEART! SOUL TO SOUL! YES, SEDUCE THE EGO! PEGGY IS BRILLIANT ON THIS POINT!
11:51:21 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: nature , give up cell phones for a couple of hours, engage in non threatening, step back from day to day responsibilities, beauty of nature, monkey minds brains/planning, worrying out of mind into heart center requires interpersonal connection, possible to do on zoom, actual spiritual aspect of the brain, sense of longing fro greater connection/harmony to rise in them, if not in state of fear/rage easier to get there, by small group, arts: music/dance/poetry, Plotkin of animus institute, drop down beyond ego purpose for which you were born, another thing: meditation/yoga, make available beautifulikages of art/nature, David Attenborough’s films, Earth, plants underwater, incredible inspiring, people wanton be part of it, Expanded thru AI,
11:51:45 From Mary Anne Reilly to Everyone:
Yes, Barbro, I'd like to hear their views as well.
11:52:12 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: Deep longing, our PURPOSE at this moment, neXt gen answered, bottom line yearning for bottom line love connectedness, encourage convening in highest purpose,
11:52:59 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Ryan: profound topic: what is your sense of AI as a learning entity consciousness perspective, DNA cloning?
11:53:23 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: was going to turn the question back to youngers
11:53:29 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
Syncon questions: "What do I want to create? What do I need from others to create it? What will I freely give to it?"... "What do we want to preserve, create, and change?" Syncons connect sectors and people who normally do not engage with each other. It diffuses conflict and co-creates harmony. It calls forward our highest potential.
11:53:45 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: no right/wrong opening door for you
11:54:34 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Ryan: universe closed or open system, program and know deterministic to know what will happen, or open and can not determine, AI is a closed system is what’s available to humans’ cognitive system
11:55:37 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: fear that humans can only input so much, could AI exceed human capacity, could destroy humanity? Possible if this happens could have a good outcome? Human imaginations are limited, might AI help us solve the closed/open system?
11:55:42 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks, Cynthia, nice questions towards great potential!
11:55:50 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Yearning for ultimate connection, caring, and love? A-I and robots are now being used in "assisted living" and "long term care" to keep ELDERS company. Really??? How heart-breaking! Clearly this is the wrong direction.
11:56:11 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
We've yet to understand and untap our human potential and innate abilities. We've even been lied to about who we are. How can AI support our evolving without suppressing our human creativity and wisdom building?
11:56:56 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Johnny: AI potential for transforming ed to open human minds to abstract deep thinking questions to answer with hearts rather than heads, fear in education now, take time for ed to use AI as a useful tool for students to think bigger picture, and not worry about nitty gritty as much,
11:57:06 From Linda to Host and Panelists:
An example of such a wise teacher: turning the question back to the student to harvest their wisdom!
11:58:00 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: from concrete to abstract thinking in developmental psychology, could help students move successfully from one to the other , instead of teachers teaching a specific subject narrow matter to bigger stimulated thinking, how could connect to greater awarenesses?
11:58:13 From Linda to Everyone:
An example of such a wise teacher: turning the question back to the student to harvest their wisdom!
11:59:04 From Aida Merriweather to Host and Panelists:
Wondering how AI communication would interface with extraterrestrial communication
11:59:19 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: So appreciate Expansion, EARTH CHARTER: statement summit of agreement of consensus: 10,000 EARTH RIGHTS, is it possible to have a summit for possibility and limitations, Peggy to lead for the possibilities goals of AI and the limitation guidelines,
11:59:44 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Yes good point Linda! Yes to Johnny! HEART CENTERED EDUCATION! HEAD-HANDS-HEART! Who teaches HEART best? What happened to the HUMAN IMAGINATION? Let us notice, that when discussing A-I, the discussion centers around the word IF, IF, IF???
12:00:23 From Jan Cafearo to Everyone:
Could the diversity include spokespeople for the other than human beings?
12:00:38 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: What would be the diversity to include beyond traditional way of thinking, not just class/geographic/religious, ask any AI question, for sufficient diversity for truly inclusive process, humans open to listening to differences, learn from Earth Charter process
12:00:48 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
🙌🏻 I am a futurist and would be drawn to such an event.
12:00:49 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
From the perspective of the Sociological science of Social Network Analysis, we are entering into an era where the rate of change in the connectivity of the larger population will vastly exceed the rate of change among the people who currently have control over economics. The number of connections among “ordinary” people will vastly out run the number of connections among the current leadership. The reason is that the rate of change in the number of new connections among the current leadership will be far lower than the rate of change of the number of connetions among the larger population because the “leaders” already mostly know each other already.
12:00:50 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: God willing, feels miraculously possible
12:01:12 From Marie-France Lepage to Everyone:
A scary thought surfacing: in a greater systematic understanding are we not anthropomorphizing consciousness by thinking that we are its ultimate form and should withhold our hegemony over other life forms. Humanity has been a poor steward and perhaps IA is the next form of evolution?
12:01:17 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
THANK YOU PEGGY and LISA! Excellent presentation today! Consciousness is Cause!
12:01:19 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: looking forward to diversity of age thinking
12:02:04 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: Council of an Earth Charter possibility?
12:02:48 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Send me your email address to receive the link to the Program and a copy of this chat. And you will also receive a link to the AfterChat conversation that will happen after the main program is over. Stan@othernetworks.org
12:03:24 From Melodie Yum to Host and Panelists:
I agree we don’t have the time
12:03:33 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
TOm: Climate change happening Exponentially, policy leaders have been moving too slow relative to the evidence of accumulating, COVID same rapid change, AI holds same rate of change, do not have the time to wait 3 years for guardrails, for positive reasons, around these 4 systems, impacted by this technology no time for wait and see
12:03:47 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: Self regulating, self potentiating AI?
12:04:07 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Climate change? OR www.Geoengineering.org? Are humans willing to SEE the truth of our US Military Weather Modification? C'mon...it's URGENT! At least take a peak and make your own HUMAN decision! Geo-engineering is a military "WEATHER WEAPON" WAKE UP TIME!
12:04:17 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Ryan: Rapid growth of AI, no sense of how to regulate, tech so accessible to so many people, URGENT
12:04:43 From Matt Keene to Everyone:
I am exploring the AI alignment issue in a new publication series called Evaluative Evolution
::https://creatingafuturewewant.substack.com/s/an-evaluative-evolution::
The first many essays, videos and other artworks are about the garden, our vegetable garden this year. I am approaching the garden as a setting and metaphor for learning related to the coevolution of Nature, humanity and AI.
Would love to know anyone's thoughts and reactions.
Matt
12:04:53 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I see AI as Augmented Intelligence.
12:05:18 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Johnny: AI not so much Artificial Intelligence, rather allow machine learning to learn self regulating to reign in themselves with empathy and consciousness, not rating as an other, but bring in close and cultivating within us
12:05:52 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Ryan: Cultivating machine to develop spiritual core> extend to so many systems that do not have an AI vision
12:06:14 From Melodie Yum to Host and Panelists:
AI bio and neuro engineering are the danger not language models
12:06:18 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: Global council to enable leaders to create core principles, AI might self regulate,
12:06:42 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Ryan: spiritual/religious communities might be at forefront of these structures around the world?
12:07:05 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: put AI in service at highest good, 4 imperatives, put the right things in?
12:07:53 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
ACI = Augmented Collective Intelligence
12:07:55 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Tom: Augmented intelligence, human capability from Shannon, on Earth, augmented what is yet to be developed in life’s journey
12:08:26 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Ryan: awakened perspective, spiritual transcendent, and need to get certain logistical parts done, synchronistic
12:08:55 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Ryan and I need to have a conversation or two…
12:08:58 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: AI inductively arrive at synchronisticity? Ffed into naturally occurring events naturally arise
12:09:35 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I “study” synchronicity in life experience through MOM, the Magic in Ordinary Moments
12:09:43 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Ryan: look at nature’s patterns, weather forecast models, account for future predictions, input different info to yield a non rational perspective,
12:09:46 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
The AI are able to absorb the body of human literature. My question is does our literature feature the distructive nature of humanity or the hopeful nature? It would be interesting to think of this in terms that, so far we haven’t blown ourselves up.
12:10:17 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://thesystemsthinker.com/dialogue-the-power-of-collective-thinking/::
12:11:10 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: blinders how life unfolds, human morality, transgression accurate AI interacts with consciousness with Earth, take us out of droning vestige of hard core Newtonian physics, center field residual mechanistic view of the world, what it do here is different from over there, AI bold open eyed view of being truly connected?
12:11:39 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: Council assembled how would this be assembled for hard stop of what AI must never do?
12:11:59 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/wisdom-crowds.asp:: ("Wisdom of crowds is the idea that large groups of people are collectively smarter than individual experts when it comes to problem-solving, decision-making, innovating, and predicting. The idea is that the viewpoint of an individual can inherently be biased, whereas taking the average knowledge of a crowd can result in eliminating the bias or noise to produce a clearer and more coherent result.")
12:12:04 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Ryan: Earth Charter great place to start, members who came together to sign that agreement, could e effective
12:12:19 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Johnny: Hard stop should be? Add other dimensions?
12:12:47 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Lisa, you are talking about the same thing I just wrote about. There must be a pattern in human literature. Is it cooperative or competitive in the whole?
12:13:12 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Johnny: AI can help us cultivate our own values system, consortium for leaders of different fields, religions/biz/community/diversity of perspective matters
12:13:14 From Barbara Nussbaum to Everyone:
Matt I would be happy to comment on your garden metaphor if you send me a copy of your article. barbara.nussbaum@gmail.com
12:15:11 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: 4 elements plus others possibly, defined for global community, AI that makes humans more aware and good to Earth, inherently elevating use of tool, morality falls throughout the 4, abstract ideas, individuals to cultivate their values systems, feel comfortable listening to their inner selves, given the data AI can provide (Is it time to ask for the question to the answer 42?)
12:15:47 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Tom: how do people see themselves/place in the world?
12:16:42 From Matt Keene to Everyone:
I wrote/published a (not good/bad) script in 2016 about a global forum/conference/council where humanity is preparing for the arrival of artificial superintelligence. Happy to share it with anyone interested. I'm at creatingafuturewewant@proton.me Matt Keene
12:18:27 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Matt, that site you offered asks for payment. This is free. I’ll stay here; I don’t have time or money enough to play with you.
12:19:00 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Jim: opportunity to build on Earth Charter during critical period of enviro concern after RIO summit, foundation upon which we need to build, regulatory framework built on more than intellectual metaphysics, that is mostly unformed and uneducated, questions being raised around spirituality/consciousness & AI realistic framework for AI to be built, Earth Charter already done that work: ::https://earthcharter.org/?doing_wp_cron=1687191484.8929409980773925781250::. basis for human spirituality if linked with AI Consciousness, no recreating the wheel, now must apply to this CODE RED that is emerging in our midst
12:19:41 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: Reconvening of the finest in us as global self governance, highly inclusive (We can do this right now virtually thru zoom)
12:20:32 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Jim: Thru other orgs, ongoing process, Humanity Rising broadcast, focus regulatory framework for AI Charter, draw significant attention beyond just HR doing an AI thing,
12:21:18 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
FYI For more about the Syncon system I referenced for cocreative collaborative conferencing and solutions building, you're invited to reach me at cwbledsoe@outlook.com . The Center for Cocreation provides Syncon facilitation for groups to explore their collective potential.
12:21:53 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peggy: in bones: rights of Earth and all humans as we face this chapter inalienable rights (Thinking war crimes accountability? Thinking crypto theft? Thinking righting so many wrongs not currently possible in current systems)
12:22:29 From Matt Keene to Everyone:
Shannon: No, free subscription. No payment.
12:23:03 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Jim: we are spirituality/human nature Xtending itself, humanity consciously reflecting itself, Earth Charter has rights for Earth inherently, aligns with constitution,
12:23:28 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks Matt; didn’t see that.
12:23:46 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Sadly, the constitution doesn’t continue the Declaration… It establishes the principal of “Property” as the basis of the rules.
12:24:11 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
TOm: no need to recreate the wheel, effective process resulted in Earth Charter more than a document, rather adoption by countries has teethe, not just wonderful process.conversation, but see industry leaders holding and embracing to potential threat,
12:25:09 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
This sounds like a project, Jim. The Earth Charter is a wonderful framework. If companies were required to commit and report on how their products supported that framework. Then we might have a process.
12:25:23 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Please see the powerful book “How Wealth Rules the World” – Ben G. Price ::https://othernetworks.org/How_Wealth_Rules_the_World_%E2%80%93_Ben_G._Price::
12:25:57 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Elinor Rosevelt was a big part of that
12:26:30 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
Any process needs to be open and accessible to all, not top down, where people are participants, not observers.
12:27:53 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I love to see the connections being made that will lead to the manifesting of the dream that holds us all in joy, love and dynamic exponential potential in a lush and beautiful world.
12:28:39 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Jim: Reach out to biz, to hold off until serious proposal, Earth Charter process would be an attractor, not national, rather planetary, inalienable rights that human and nature has rights, internal compass, sense of rightness, deeper than language/reason/intellect, Earth Charter recaptured that, (The Earth Charter is a document with sixteen principles that drive a global movement towards a more just, sustainable and peaceful world. To support the movement, our Education Center offers courses, resource materials and network opportunities to turn conscience into action.). put time/energy into this to make it happen, working together with Lisa and elegance of sensitivity would be pure pleasure, Dr. Steven Rockefeller got 10,000 to agree in deep meaning for core concepts to the letter, some hunt in the sea to live, and others who protect he sea both agreed, Dr. Peggy Dulany distilling common themes, vested financial interests and those profoundly vulnerable coming to consensus (Sign me up for open-oooheart proces
12:29:25 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://citizensandscholars.org/resource/co-creation-generation/:: (The Case for Intergenerational Co-Design and Co-Leadership)
::https://hbr.org/2010/10/building-the-co-creative-enterprise:: (by Venkat Ramaswamy and Francis Gouillart From the Magazine October 2010)
12:29:43 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
I am a futurist for human potential and feel a beautiful collective impulse rising. Let's preserve, create, and change together to become conscious of who we truly are.
12:29:46 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
This sounds priceless, yes!
12:29:48 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
I nominate Ian Lewis, Chair person of World Cetacean Alliance as a great statesman.
12:29:52 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Jim: educate Youngers of this transgenerational aspect of this seeking to create a wise guardrail for the development Yuval Ferrari says is the most important from mechanical to biological systems, trangenerational would be priceless, natural rights
12:30:09 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Lisa: global place of moral meeting!
12:30:48 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Ian Lewis ::https://othernetworks.org/Ian_Lewis::
12:31:00 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
You guys are going to have a great AfterChat!! I can’t join today… oh, that’s going to be a problem! omg. Gotta fly!
12:31:21 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Ryan: nuclear energy and atom bomb, in the aftermath of WWII, so much movement around awareness of new tech, generationally, no longer form of disdain that all are warning about (@Ryan Nuclear remains a concern for me)
12:31:38 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Johnny: global interconnectedness?
12:31:38 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:33:08 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Lisa, Johnny, Ryan and Tom, please come to the AfterChat You can join the After Chat here:
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12:33:18 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
Great conversation about such an important topic.
12:33:26 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:33:27 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Wonderful discussion!!!
12:33:31 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Thanks everyone!
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