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Humanity Rising Day 717 After Chat – Monday June 12, 2023
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00:02:22 8318184016: ❤️❤️❤️
00:04:50 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Welcome to the AfterChat! Thanks to Stan Pokras, we’ve been meeting here since Day 60 of Humanity Rising.
Stan sends out an email every day with the links to the HR recording and this recording, along with the chats for both. If you’d like to receive the email, send Stan a chat message with your email or email him at Stan@OtherNetworks.org
00:07:01 Stanley Pokras: This is the AfterChat for day 717
00:11:22 Leo Jacoby: ::https://batgap.com/:: (Buddha at the Gas Pump podcast with Rick Archer, 683 interviews)
00:11:26 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: This may resonate with you. On the Light side… 🙂
00:14:36 Stanley Pokras: poobah and betsy shadow & shade ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-InnIfeMZzw::
00:14:52 Kathryn Alexander, MA: The issue of ‘purity’ is another concept that needs exploration.
00:15:48 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Coming of age in Samoa?
00:16:17 andystock: yes, a universal morality, the worlds mystics of all major traditions show us
00:17:26 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: PARENTING is awesomely effective in opening our hearts and expanding them. Read and apply: Nurturing with Love and Wisdom, Disciplining with Peace and Respect: Mindful Parenting, by Diane Tillman. Have the Living Values practices taught is schools… For 2 minutes listen to this: ::https://youtu.be/A7VQHNd_MKE::
Developing and applying quality values is vitally important for all levels of society.
00:18:00 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Take 8 minutes of your life to experience a powerful expression on LOVE by a Prison inmate. ::http://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/human::
One learned from a parent and the other from the most unexpected source you’d probably ever imagine could teach True Love. View the first 8 minutes and get back to me if the last statement is incorrect.
Then check out Forgiving the Unforgivable is also the first of The Four Sacred Gifts, a great book by an indigenous elder friend, Anita Sanchez.
LOVE and helpfulness work wonders... When we “work it”… Start loving yourself more and practice this PeaceMaker Meditation that will greatly help: . ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo::. Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace will reverberate throughout your day… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and ‘others.’
00:18:56 Patricia Aguirre: I like what Chuang Tzu brings about impeccability different than what Confucius.brings about morality and ethics
00:23:36 Stanley Pokras: I send out an email with links to this recording and Chat along with the recording of Humanity Rising and the Chat from there. Send me your email address to receive our daily report of links.
00:25:47 Kathryn Alexander, MA: We give up self-responsibility so easily.
00:26:24 Patricia Aguirre: Seems that shadow is more evident as light is growing...Is this correct?
00:28:25 Kathryn Alexander, MA: Patricia, I see the light as an energy that pulls on our soul, and where ever the soul is still stuck, then a freeing must occur and that may look like a situation that is dramatic and even daming.
00:31:14 Shannon McArthur (she/her): ::http://truedharma.org:: ?
00:34:37 Kathryn Alexander, MA: Judgement is not the same as discernment
00:34:53 Warren: I would say that the military is a kind of cult as well with many similar dynamics
00:35:05 Shannon McArthur (she/her): I agree, Warren.
00:35:12 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Totally warren.
00:35:56 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: The Military cult is propagated with TOP GUN kind of movies, etc.
00:36:01 Stanley Pokras: Good Death Auspicious Rebirth ::https://www.truedharma.org/:: Frank M. Tedesco ::https://othernetworks.org/Frank_M._Tedesco::
00:36:25 Frank M Tedesco: Good Death Auspicious Rebirth-- 41 minute film about end-of-life healthcare for followers/adherents of the four Dharma traditions of India. Hinduism, Jainism, Buddhism and Sikhism. Deathbed nurturance.
00:37:04 Leo Jacoby: UPCOMING: ::https://jungian.directory/jungian-events/meeting-the-shadow-on-the-spiritual-path-the-dance-of-darkness-and-light-in-our-search-for-awakening/:: (Myth Salon with Dr. Connie Zweig: Meeting the Shadow on the Spiritual Path Jun 15, 2023 7-9 PM Central Time)
00:37:58 Frank M Tedesco: www.truedharma.org Good Death Auspicious Rebirth
00:43:01 Shannon McArthur (she/her): I LIKE that answer — I don’t know is a great answer.
00:43:29 Leo Jacoby: Links shared today including some not posted (click to save before chat closes)
00:44:56 Kathryn Alexander, MA: I have seen narcissism as a foundational trail for this kind of behavior.
00:49:55 Patricia Aguirre: Joao de Deus has been in home prison for past few years and is having a judgement now probably releasing him...and he wants to go back to place he worked as healer.
00:54:35 Tricia Fortina ; ): Thanks Patricia...
00:56:41 Warren: gotta go thanks all
00:58:11 Stanley Pokras: I send out an email with links to this recording and Chat along with the recording of Humanity Rising and the Chat from there. Send me your email address to receive our daily report of links.
00:59:24 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Many Have blinders on…
00:59:41 Patricia Aguirre: I like a book I read years ago..The Dark Side of Light Chasers by Debbie Ford.
01:01:33 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/774565.The_Dark_Side_of_the_Light_Chasers:: (: Reclaiming Your Power, Creativity, Brilliance, and Dreams by Debbie Ford 1998)
01:01:51 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: I get to go in a few minutes. Please, keep going back - it works when we work it and we’re worth it. Thank You God 🙂
ZOOM PEACE with The Peace Salute, ::https://youtu.be/iAknrhuvPr0:: whenever you say goodbye.
“Love is omni-inclusive progressively exquisite understanding and compassionately attuned to other than self.”
~ Buckminster Fuller ~
01:02:55 Tricia Fortina ; ): Kathryn... Well put and a continuation of what I was saying....
It feels important to have compassion..., along with the boundaries.
I also agree about the sociopathic expression in motion with Trump. Tomorrow onward, ought to continue to be a learning experience for us...
01:03:28 Kathryn Alexander, MA: Thank you, Trina
01:04:04 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Thank you, Everyone, for join us in the AfterChat today. Thank you, Connie, especially. You’ve gathered a great group here — rich conversation; great learning and sharing.
01:04:14 Stanley Pokras: How does the relationship between a bully and their audience fit into this conversation/
01:05:09 Patricia Aguirre: Super thanks Connie and all. Very important!!!! I also have to go. Love to all!
01:05:45 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YndD6rV0swA:: (23:11 "The Dark Side of the Light Chasers" By Debbie Ford Book Summary | Geeky Philosopher)
01:06:20 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Thank you to all who have supported the conversation from behind closed videos… Leo, Richard, Clare, Linda, a number and an iPhone… happy to have you hear.
01:06:52 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Oh, Sara, I missed you in that list - welcome!
01:08:27 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Stan collects links of HR & AfterChat sessions, along with the chats from both, and all the speakers who have appeared. Check out the list of episodes, and then dive deeper: ::https://othernetworks.org/Searchable_Listing_of_Humanity_Rising_Episodes::
01:09:11 Kathryn Alexander, MA: I think film is one way of creating transitions.
01:09:35 Linda’s iPhone: People who had died of Covid or list loved ones
01:09:53 Linda’s iPhone: Lost loved ones
01:11:36 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.cstsonline.org/assets/media/documents/CSTS_FS_When_a_Loved_One_Dies_from_COVID19.pdf:: (2pp)
01:12:06 iPhone: 🙏🏻 thank you Connie
01:13:08 susanciancanelli: Leaving now also - blessings!
01:14:26 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.nbcnews.com/news/obituaries/coronavirus-deaths-60-stories-victims-around-country-n1194396::
01:17:36 Leo Jacoby: A few minor additions to links file...
01:25:34 Stanley Pokras: Chat Action Deep Dive Sessions ::https://othernetworks.org/Chat_Action_Deep_Dive_Sessions::
01:30:43 Leo Jacoby: Connie's Questions...
SPIRITUAL SHADOW-WORK
Reflect on your role as student/believer in relation to a teacher.
Are/were you obedient, dependent, repeating family patterns?
What did you project?
What did you repress into your shadow?
RECLAIMING INDEPENDENT THINKING
Have you accepted a teacher's definitions of spirituality and moral behavior?
Have you projected your certainty and banished your doubts to be with a teacher or belief a set of teachings?
What do you need in order to reclaim your critical thinking?
RECLAIMING THE BODY
Do you believe the impulses of the body are dangerous temptations?
Which bodily sensations have you forbidden?
What would happen if you began to allow them to arise?
What do you need for that to feel safe?
RECLAIMING AGENCY
Have you become passive, submissive, giving up action in your own behalf?
Are you unable to feel or express doubt or questions?
What do you need in act in your own behalf and reclaim your agency?
What do you need to order to separate from an
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