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Humanity Rising Day 696 After Chat – Friday April 12, 2023
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- 00:03:33 Rosa Zubizarreta: How about “informed concern”?
- 00:04:32 Rosa Zubizarreta: Instead of fear…
- 00:04:38 Leo Jacoby: "The fact is I think I am a verb rather than a pronoun. A verb is anything that signifies to be; to do; or to suffer. I signify all three." -- Ulysses Grant, handwritten note while dying with throat cancer.
- 00:05:16 Rosa Zubizarreta: As in, “grave concern"...
- 00:06:32 Shannon McArthur (she/her): If you aren’t speaking, please turn off your mic.
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- 00:08:47 Rob Hayes: It's curious about Math. Even chat bots fail in some surprisingly elementary ways, we read.
- QQQ: Why is it that innumeracy is part of AI considerations? How come? Is our logic about math not part of all the internet, etc?
- Why should AI be failing in this regard?
- 00:11:26 Rosa Zubizarreta: Conservatives Aim to Build a Chatbot of Their Own
- by Stuart A. Thompson, Tiffany Hsu and Steven Lee Myers. Published March 22, 2023 Updated March 25, 2023
- https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/22/business/media/ai-chatbots-right-wing-conservative.html?action=click&pgtype=Article&state=default&module=styln-artificial-intelligence&variant=show®ion=BELOW_MAIN_CONTENT&block=storyline_flex_guide_recirc
- 00:11:38 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Thank you, Josef, for your hand up. I see you, and will do my best to call you in next.
- 00:11:40 Ian K: I started work in computing using a system very much like the one in Josef’s picture. And have watched the power of computing go non liner around 30 years ago. It continues and is now more or less vertical. Am part of a group looking at how organic cybernetic principles and AI might brood together
- 00:11:49 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: AI CHALLENGES LIFE. Have you seen this by the creators of the Social Dilemma, the AI Dilemma:
- https://youtu.be/xoVJKj8lcNQ
- https://youtu.be/uA7ngvAMno0 Movie about AI.
- Matthew James Bailey’s aiethics.world. and his book, “Inventing World 3.0"!
- 00:12:36 Rosa Zubizarreta: Also Misalignment, AI & Moloch | Daniel Schmachtenberger and Liv Boeree
- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCSsKV5F4xc
- 00:13:13 Leo Jacoby: Kurt: your link to a movie about AI returned: "This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated."
- 00:16:40 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Leo, TY. IS there another?
- 00:17:21 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: The same is with these “smart” TV’s
- 00:19:43 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Stan sends out an email every day with the links to the HR recording and this recording, along with the chats for both. If you’d like to receive the email, send Stan a message with your email. Stan@OtherNetworks.org
- 00:26:51 Leo Jacoby: https://aiethics.world/the-book (Inventing World 3.0 - Evolutionary Ethics for AI™️ Matthew James Bailey) - recommended by Kurt.
- 00:28:37 Ian K: I have to go - would like to Cath up with the erst of this session via the recording. Thankyou Noel! Thankuou everyone.
- 00:28:50 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Thanks, Ian.
- 00:28:54 Ian K: Catch up with the rest…
- 00:28:54 Leo Jacoby: https://www.google.com/books/edition/Design_for_a_brain/PAELAwAAQBAJ (Design for a Brain: The Origin of Adaptive Behavior By William Ross Ashby · 1960 56 pp preview)
- 00:28:55 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Great to have you with us again
- 00:31:03 Rosa Zubizarreta: Technology is great… AND… how much is enough??
- 00:31:16 Leo Jacoby: https://archive.org/details/designforbrainor0000ashb/page/n3/mode/2up (borrow Ashby 1960 online)
- 00:32:17 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: The PeaceMakers Circles/Network is soon to put out a worldwide Challenge similar to the past ALS Challenge to spread Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace. Love to share it with you and refine it before it launches. 🙂 Feel free to connect with us 1-818-399-0771, PeaceMakersCircles@gmail.com.
- 00:33:57 diana: But we Need the MAN to help us create the Entity!!
- 00:35:39 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Diana, lovely to see you!
- 00:35:40 diana: Our hair is a majot antenna!!
- 00:35:57 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Diane, I love the unity and the diversity! Vive la diferance
- 00:38:20 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Leo, TY for all your gifts in participating in HR/AfterChat. You a wonderful example of what you talk about. TY.
- 00:38:42 Rosa Zubizarreta: The great opportunity in AI, is really looking at what it means to be human…
- 00:40:10 Leo Jacoby: Like great art the invention of AI becomes a mirror for we humans to see ourselves.
- 00:40:28 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Balance, as mentioned by Robert, is desirable. Diana, at least from a DNA perspective, men provide an element of change. I love men, and I love women too. Humanity is wonderful!
- 00:40:59 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: What’s your link Josef
- 00:43:26 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: We Salute You with the ZOOMING Peace Salute, https://youtu.be/iAknrhuvPr0 whenever we say goodbye.
- 00:43:46 Stanley Pokras: Josef … https://othernetworks.org/Josef_Princiotta
- 00:44:58 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: I get to go also. Our family is going Wildflower walking.
- 00:45:01 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Existence by Gregory Bear, book suggested by Noel Munson
- 00:45:03 Rosa Zubizarreta: There seems to be a tremendous amount of hubris at seeking to create “artificial life”. There is tremendous danger in hubris…
- 00:45:11 Leo Jacoby: https://www.gregbear.com/
- 00:45:31 Leo Jacoby: https://gizmodo.com/obituary-greg-bear-sci-fi-author-1849806303
- 00:45:43 Rob Hayes: Thanks Noel! ☆☆ 💚
- 00:49:18 Stanley Pokras: The AI dilemma
- 00:53:08 Shannon McArthur (she/her): Thank you for your hand and heart, Michael ❤️
- 00:55:30 Warren: I need to go. Thank you everyone
- 00:55:34 Shannon McArthur (she/her): The AI Dilemma: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoVJKj8lcNQ
- 00:59:58 Leo Jacoby: I am not exempt from human processing, to critically assess whatever I take in, make a judgment about its veracity or beauty, and decide how I will participate in the ongoing conversation.
- 01:03:34 Leo Jacoby: Lonergan speaks of four levels of conscious intentionality: empirical, intellectual, rational, and responsible." How do we "program" responsibility in humans as well as in AI?
- 01:06:22 Stanley Pokras: https://othernetworks.org/Josef_Princiotta
- 01:06:24 Leo Jacoby: From Josef Princiotta: I would like to continue our dialogue.Starting at 11:45 AM AKDT
- 7 DAYS A WEEK The Zoom Chat Meeting ID is 716 8428 0007 - NO password required https://us02web.zoom.us/j/71684280007
- Starting at 5:45 PM AKDT 7 DAYS A WEEK The Zoom Chat Meeting ID is 811 3359 1211 - NO password required
- https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81133591211
- 01:08:29 Leo Jacoby: So many good comments in HR chat today. This file has samples and some links for today. (click to download before chat closes)
- 01:11:49 Josef Princiotta: Here is the LINK to my 6 PM ZoomAny Day - Every Day - 7 days/week.
- Starting at 5:45 PM AKDT
- The Zoom Chat Meeting ID is
- 811 3359 1211
- Here is the link - NO password required
- https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81133591211
- 1 HOUR BEHIND PDT
- 01:12:18 Josef Princiotta: josefprinciotta(at)gmail.com
- 01:12:44 Stanley Pokras: TED Talk on the MEDIA and society over time.
- The presenter explores "What we know (and believe)" as opposed to "What we want," https://othernetworks.org/How_The_Net_Destroyed_Democracy_(Thing_One_%26_Thing_Two)
- 01:13:32 shauna: Too much interruptions to focus on protecting our senses our innate abilities and sharing
- 01:13:45 shauna: Thank You Susan
- 01:17:16 Leo Jacoby: https://www.jonalexander.net/ (recommended by Rosa)
- 01:17:18 shauna: It is called dis ease
- Why can or not align our relationship with the living Earth and it’s children of all species
- 01:18:31 Josef Princiotta: I am interested in THE CONCEPT of REPARATION so I am Zooming every Sat AM here ar some details Please Join My Saturday 10 AM Zoom Meeting
- We discuss
- REPARATION THE CONCEPT
- We can use your input.
- Doors Open At 9:45 AM AKDT
- Just Click This Link
- https://us02web.zoom.us/j/87117076557
- Meeting ID: 871 1707 6557
- No Password needed.
- Dress comfortably.
- 01:18:48 Leo Jacoby: The Idea
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- Jon Anderson: "My aim in CITIZENS is to open up a new way of understanding ourselves and the intensely challenging time in which we live. I want to equip us to see and step into the possibility in this moment, not just the threat. I truly believe we can find a way for all of us to thrive - and seeing one another as the Citizens we are is the starting point."
- 01:19:11 Rosa Zubizarreta: Thank you, Leo!!
- 01:19:43 Rosa Zubizarreta: Thank you, Josef! Much appreciate the links! Would love to visit your groups...
- 01:25:45 shauna: Integrity
- 01:28:05 Rosa Zubizarreta: Thanks so much, all… lovely to be here. Be well…
- 01:28:44 Leo Jacoby: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo4pYlNfSi0 (29:33 How to see ourselves as citizens | Jon Alexander | RSA Fellows Festival 2022)
- 01:31:21 Leo Jacoby: https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/60651047 (Citizens: Why the Key to Fixing Everything is All of Us by Jon Alexander, Ariadne Conrad, Brian Eno-Foreword)
- 01:32:58 diana: Link????
- 01:33:54 Leo Jacoby: "The headlines of our time are enough to make anyone feel helpless. But when we start to think and act like Citizens, not Consumers, everything changes." - Jon Alexander
- 01:39:23 Sarah Sue-Belize Carol Sue Engleman on Facebook: https://www.advancedmedicine.com Dr. Buttar Medical Conference
- 01:39:26 Linda DeHart: So interesting ALL ! LOVE And I need to leave !
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