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Humanity Rising Day 658 Chat Page – Wednesday March 22, 2023
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11:01:07 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
A bright and sunny World Water Day to you all! Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:02:33 From Doreen Tanenbaum to Everyone:
Good Morning from the cloudy skies of Cherokee Country -N.C
11:03:54 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Host and Panelists:
What about the program on education we were going to have?
11:04:30 From Carlos Prosser to Everyone:
Hi everyone from the blue sky and ocean in Valparaíso Chile
11:05:31 From Greg Jan to Everyone:
I just got on -- has the session on Indigenous Learning been postponed?
11:06:13 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Not sure -- Jim said that we have a very full plate today. Maybe this got added in. No breathing. No prologue.
11:06:36 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Hello, the planned program will proceed after Jim’s interview of Alon, from Israel. Ilarion will be asked to present in lieu of the breathing.
11:07:12 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Thank you so much, Stan. Good to know.
11:08:34 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
thank you, stan
11:08:48 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Ilarion (aka Kuuyux) is lovely to listen to. Grateful for his influence after hearing from Alon.
11:09:50 From Carlos Prosser to Everyone:
Very interesting meeting today. We need a radical change in our education and it is very important to hear the new old voices of the indegenous learning
11:09:52 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Good morning from the Credit River Watershed, of Treaty 19 Territory.
11:10:08 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Wow, I can see how Israel would be much stronger if it were more integrated with Arabs. A much bigger more inclusive vision.
11:11:08 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Oh, this is really bad news.
11:12:28 From Azita Moallef to Everyone:
Hello everyone! Does anyone know How one may listen to a past recording? this past Monday’s session “Godly Attributes”?
Thank you so much!💙
11:14:03 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Azita: ::https://othernetworks.org/HR!Day657:: The link to the YouTube recording is there, the chat and the AfterChat and its chat.
11:14:43 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Azita. all episodes this month can be accessed here : ::https://othernetworks.org/List_of_Humanity_Rising_Day_Pages#March_2023_Days_643_to_665::
11:17:54 From Azita Moallef to Everyone:
Thank you Shannon and Stan!
11:19:22 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
It was a great program, Azita. Thank you for asking.
11:19:45 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Isn't the ultra conservative religious right a fairly small percentage of the population?
11:23:04 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Horrors. Israel has been such an incredible success story.
11:23:28 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
I believe that Jews in America were also surprised.
11:23:43 From Susan H-W to Everyone:
Charry, it is not small but it is a minority. In order for Netanyahu to gain dominance in the Knesset, he had to bring the ultra-religious and conservative nationalists into his corner -- much like McCarthy and his House ultra-conservatives. Otherwise, no power for Netanyahu.
11:23:44 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
So, Israel as well...This is difficult to listen to.
11:24:31 From Susan H-W to Everyone:
Very difficult.
11:25:04 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Alon, thank you so much for coming to talk to us.
11:25:34 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
This is all the trajectory that 45 was assigned for…..start hate so that its easier to ‘other’ climate refugees.
11:25:35 From Susan H-W to Everyone:
All "form" of governance in Israel is at stake.
11:26:15 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Aren’t the Orthodox superior in their minds?
11:26:26 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Inequality shows itself daily in Israel
11:26:41 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Wow
11:27:11 From Susan H-W to Everyone:
Not sure about "superior" but want primacy for sure.
11:29:06 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Thank you for bringing this information to us...
11:30:15 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
The fact is that the religious Orthodox maintain their right to NOT participate in the military while promoting policies that call for vast military spending! They think that their sons should be exempt while profiting from the spending if they own the military production industries.
11:31:35 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Ilarion’s presence on HR is listed here: ::https://othernetworks.org/Ilarion_%E2%80%98Kuuyux%E2%80%99_Merculieff::
11:31:59 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Western curriculum is specifically design to spit out the perfect idiot, designed at arms length from the church….
11:32:29 From Susan H-W to Everyone:
Yes! There was legislative mumbling to change that and include them, but it won't happen under current Netanyahu governance.
11:34:20 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Aho! Thank you so much, Ilarion.
11:34:50 From Susan H-W to Everyone:
Yes; Aho.
11:35:33 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Wow, yes, I had forgotten about the exemption for military service for the ultra-conservative. Thank you Stan for the reminder. Worse and worse.
11:36:03 From Sanjay Rajan to Host and Panelists:
“The educator” - paradigm shift is required. ;)
11:36:34 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Literates learn the word; illiterates learn the world.
11:36:48 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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Welcome to Humanity Rising
With Love...
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11:37:44 From Susan H-W to Everyone:
"Literates learn the word, illiterates learn the world." Beautiful. Would like to see "both/and."
11:37:55 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
/.≤.
11:37:55 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
":/l.
11:37:56 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
';l;
11:38:42 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Because he’s been “documenting” his experience, his is a “both/and” perspective.
11:39:07 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Kat, that’s pretty illiterate for you ;)
11:39:14 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
wow… the idea that literacy has an impact on brain development actually makes a lot of sense.
11:40:29 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
@Shannon imagining a fresh way of thinking/communicating…Not a common activity. So appreciate out-of-the-boxness
11:42:34 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
India is the global leader in community management systems that include youth within leadership roles.
11:42:51 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
Manish Jain and incredible being in the área of educarion has been to Brasil several times and brought inspiring outlook..Fouden ecoversities
11:43:43 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Host and Panelists:
In India Eecpversities Alliance
11:44:50 From Stan P to Everyone:
Agreements
Everything we know, everything we see, everything we do together depends on agreements. Language is a tool for making agreements, writing is a tool for recording agreements, money is a tool for enumerating and assigning value to our agreements. Agreements among people are the basis for our conscious reality. Without a process for agreed upon concepts, our reality would be awash with meaningless sensations.
— Stanley R. Pokras
11:45:27 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
how do you differentiate between knowledge & wisdom
11:45:29 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
I produced Kuyyuux’s TEDxHomer Talk in 2010. ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6cmKeRV3Z0::. More about Kuuyux: ::https://www.gcill.world/::
11:45:50 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Ah, Stan, I believe the “meaningless sensations” have more meaning than we can imagine, being rational.
11:46:01 From Ilarion ‘Kuuyux’ Merculieff to Kat Haber, Host and Panelists:
Hey Kat
11:46:12 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
“Illiterates learn the world and the ,iterates learn the word.” - Jinan Remembering…
11:46:15 From Susan H-W to Host and Panelists:
Yes, and we generally agree that all agreements are arbitrary and changeable. Thankfully!
11:46:27 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
Orality and Literacy: The Technologizing of the Word by Walter J. Ong 1982
This classic work explores the vast differences between oral and literate cultures offering a very clear account of the intellectual, literary and social effects of writing, print and electronic technology.
> ::https://monoskop.org/images/d/db/Ong_Walter_J_Orality_and_Literacy_2nd_ed.pdf:: (214pp)
> ttps://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/164515
> ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_J._Ong::
> ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SdX3o1nlMg:: (25:58 Walter Ong: Orality and Literacy (Part - 1 0f 3) Indian Institute of Technology, Delhi July 2018)
11:47:28 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://perell.com/essay/orality-and-literacy/:: (Review of Ong)
11:47:37 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Thank you, sir, for all you are and all you bring. We are honoured and grateful.
11:48:42 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://pages.mtu.edu/~jdslack/readings/Ong_Orality_literacy_modern_media.pdf:: (7pp by Ong)
11:49:54 From Susan H-W to Host and Panelists:
A wonderful book for adults (written for -- and by! -- children) is A Hole is to Dig. A book full of children's understanding of words, which is experiential and action-sensory based. Interaction with the world determines meaning; words are simply agreed upon symbols for these experiences in childhood.
11:50:14 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Thank you, Leo, for deepening the learning.
11:51:26 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
> ::https://as.nyu.edu/content/dam/nyu-as/english/documents/2012%20-%20McDowell%20-%20Ong%20and%20Concept%20of%20Orality.pdf:: (ONG AND THE CONCEPT OF ORALITY by Paula McDowell 2017 11pp)
11:51:27 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Consciousness has no reverse, no brakes and no borders.
11:51:52 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
If we’re going to learn with t e word, the world, tap into the heart. Here is a transition: CREATING VIRTUES and PREVENTING VIOLENCE. This program, ::http://LivingValues.net:: has over 90% reduction in violence in a Thai Refugee Camp within 2 years! The woman who developed it then went to Johannesburg, RSA and designed a program for street people - similar results!
It’s free, the Living Values Education Program: The first two Values instructed are LOVE and PEACE. All the other Values are generated from these. Thus affecting ALL life on our planet in every day.
Here's more on three quality character development programs: Character Inclusion for Regenerative Societies, Diane Tillman, Daniel Allen. ::https://youtu.be/08sYrYfNvnw:: a Humanity Rising Global Solutions Summit program produced by the Peace Lab.
"Let virtue lead the way, and every step will be safe.” ~ Seneca
11:52:08 From Susan H-W to Host and Panelists:
👍
11:52:50 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
#WaterIsLife
11:53:03 From Susan H-W to Host and Panelists:
Affective/Emotional development is woefully ignored in western education.
11:53:09 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
> ::https://scholarcommons.scu.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1091&context=comm:: (Orality and Literacy 25 Years Later by Paul A. Soukup 2007 32pp)
11:53:16 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
The 8th fire is there
11:53:21 From Susan H-W to Host and Panelists:
Yes, "Heart "
11:53:28 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
World Water Day celebrates #WaterIsLife
11:54:06 From Connie and Andrew to Everyone:
Yes Illarion - I learned of what you speak in the 90’s when visionary Native American elders came to me to bring me what I was seeking - “the missing pieces of the paradigm that had humanity out of balance.” Wallace Black Elk pointed to his heart and said “this is the brain.”
11:55:01 From Jinan K B to Everyone:
Please connect if you want to co explore with me
jinankb.in
jinankb@gmail.com
11:55:09 From Susan H-W to Host and Panelists:
Shannon, I have a FP webinar in 6 minutes! Can't wait to reflect together on today's rich lessons! Thank you! 💜
11:55:33 From Stan P to Everyone:
Short Animation — The Elephant, The Rider and the Path - A Tale of Behavior Change ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X9KP8uiGZTs::
11:55:34 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Thank you so much, Jinan. It was very good to hear your perspective!
11:56:17 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://daily.jstor.org/in-which-we-science-why-nouns-become-verbs-because-language/::
11:57:32 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Scribe is the term for a professional literate.
11:57:38 From Connie and Andrew to Everyone:
I also learned from the Hopi that they watched the children to see what their soul was guiding them to do - if the child showed an interest in Kachina dolls or carving they would find themselves in the presence of a Kachina carver and would bring their gift to the evolution of Kachina carving - not taught how to replicate what had gone before.
11:58:00 From Charles Bradley to Everyone:
so what shouldwe do about the tar sands pipelines from Canada which are poisoning water everywhere including on Native lands?
11:58:12 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Connie, what a lovely way to guide children!
11:58:36 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
> ::https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fpsyg.2021.661479/full:: (The Acquisition of Noun and Verb Categories by Bootstrapping From a Few Known Words: A Computational Model 2021)
11:59:35 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Charles, Might I suggest globally planned, regionally organized and locally executed, planetary actions.
11:59:56 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Jinan’s YouTube Channel is: ::https://www.youtube.com/@do-nothing-parenting::
12:02:25 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
> ::https://cdr.lib.unc.edu/downloads/sn00b2406:: (Cherokee Verb Classes, Language Revitalization, and Second Language Pedagogy
By Kristen Lavery, Honors Thesis 2019 81pp)
12:02:33 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
This is all fascinating and has the ring of truth. I am so sorry I have to leave early. Thank you Ilarion, Jinan, and Jim.
12:02:36 From Connie and Andrew to Everyone:
It’s called trust! As a result I could let my son drop out of first grade, as I knew he came with a gift and the Loving Universe would chase him around with a silver platter to give him the experiences he needed to bring his gift to the world. He is now in his mid-30’s and a very successful photographer in LA, bringing his creative gifts to the world. That is ultimate trust to allow one’s child to go free from the educational system!
12:02:49 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
In 2020, there was a 3 week railway action across Canada, that was the largest NVDA in Canadian history; then in 2021, there was a Farmers strike in India, of 250+ million people…..weeks ago a Farmers led democratic party won the election was successful in northern europe
12:03:01 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Kuuyux taught me so much in supporting him in preparing his TEDxHomer Talk. ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6cmKeRV3Z0::
12:03:14 From Stan P to Everyone:
Where can we find a synthesis of Advaitananda’s understanding of consciousness and today’s understanding of learning?
12:03:43 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
So refreshing!
12:04:07 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Stan, perhaps only on HR… Wouldn’t that be interesting to hear!
12:04:30 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Youth in leadership follows this current narrative being discussed.
12:04:56 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:05:13 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Neighborocracy
12:05:46 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Neighborocracy + pre-colonial democratic processes = sustainability
12:06:29 From Abner Delina to Everyone:
Hi Ilarion! You have inspired me so much in the past few years so much so that I've created a physical theater-film work inspired from your ideas about returning to the womb. It's called World Of My Bodies - I 'd love to share a full copy to your email and hear your thoughts after watching it. Here is the trailer link ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xzuuj-TbiQ:: . My email is abnerdelina@gmail.com . Maraming salamat!
12:07:11 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
> ::https://www.mdpi.com/2226-471X/5/1/9:: (Headedness and the Lexicon: The Case of Verb-to-Noun Ratios by Maria Polinsky and Lilla Magyar 2020)
12:07:38 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Abner, I look forward to seeing it, and learning more!
12:07:58 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
i remember reading stories to the children in the library and just leaving it to the kids to get what they get from it. I really disliked the style ofstory time that asked the children to name the characters, or what color the birds were, or what did they learn
12:08:53 From Jinan K B to Everyone:
CLEBRATING CHILDHOOD; CELEBRATING LIFE ---- Learning from children, indigenous cultures, and Nature Thinking aloud for Planning to co-organize a confluence in
collaboration with whoever might be interested in addressing what is
happening to children in the modern context.
It is more like a campaign for re-thinking, re-imagining, and
re-researching what exactly children need and how we provide that.?We intend, through this confluence, to explore how we may reclaim our
own innate nature, and return to deep meaning through authentic
presence – our indigeneity.
Join this WhatsApp group ::https://chat.whatsapp.com/Fs3xHSKGbNmIbYD8AfF2dD::
See the initial explorations in the temporary website
::https://childhoodcelebrati0.wixsite.com/my-site-3::
12:09:36 From Stan P to Everyone:
It would be very interesting to hear how our panelists today would react to Advaitananda Stoian’s two Humanity Rising episodes on consciousness found here: ::https://othernetworks.org/Advaitananda_Stoian::
12:09:51 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
Today's content is so rich I don't know where to turn. Maybe just be still.
12:09:54 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Kuuyux: "Are we harming children with the system we are submitting them to? All children are genius at one point. Watched 2.5 million seabirds from a 5Mile X 5 mile island., Kittiwake, black, murres, Puffins tufted & thousands under cliffs, in all directions, various speeds, apparent chaos, birds never clipped a wing EVER! He wanted to know how they did that? Trained himself not to think. Could feel animals, plants, feel everything, Hunters would take him out for sea lion hunting…180 degrees of water from the island. Hunters knew Xactly when and where the sea lions would appear. Used what he learned from Sea Birds to apply to sea lions, halibut, knows when how fish is hooked, what size, male/female, how it will fight on the way up, good hunter/fisherman needs this, every human is needed now to bring this intelligence to activate in the world”
12:10:19 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
> ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueYebPvTrVc:: (17:35 Kuuyux Ilarion Larry Merculieff at TEDxHomer - Native Knowing; about Nature: our nature, the nature around us, how we are disconnected from them, and how we can reconnect once more.)
> ::https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Ilarion+Larry+Merculieff:: (MORE on YouTube)
12:10:25 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Transitional governance models is the pathway back
12:10:33 From Abner Delina to Everyone:
Thanks Shannon, It's been awhile. I'd love to share it to you too or to anyone who is interested. Just email me. Ilarion has been a great inspiration to me, has given me so much clarity during these challenging times. I've considered him a mentor even if he doesn't know it. Im so happy to be here!
12:10:36 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
JG: What is the pathway back, distant from this relating to (WITH) nature?
12:11:10 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Please bring your comments and questions to the AfterChat
12:11:11 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Reminds me of stories of Merlin in the King Arthur stories.
12:11:13 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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12:11:15 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Let’s talk in the AfterChat, if you have time after this.
12:11:49 From Linda to Everyone:
What is Jinan’s You Tube?
12:11:54 From Connie and Andrew to Everyone:
I learned from a Santo Domingo Pueblo man that “the hunter becomes the hunted” when the animal nation is contacted thru ceremony that the hunter is coming to feed his family, and then the animal nation decides who is going to “go home” with the hunter, and seeks him out.
12:11:57 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
::https://www.youtube.com/@do-nothing-parenting::
12:12:01 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Linda
12:12:37 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Kuuyux: Yes, we must stop the wrong, broken, not correct, but do not pour our energies into what we do not want. Go to/come from our hearts, so few connected to our hearts.>>>Takes work. Takes accessing trauma process and let go, Let go of all human attachments, come from the heart which knows what its doing, find those like the courageous to jump, Find those who have done the same>>>New definition of TRIBE.
12:13:50 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Children don’t need toys!! Children need to see processes! Good advice.
12:13:50 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
We call it “being”.
We sit on the bench being.
It’s the most important part of our day/life.
12:14:06 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
“Follow the children”
12:14:28 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
“Freedom is existential”
12:14:30 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
> ::https://www.spiritualityhealth.com/articles/2021/01/20/think-verb-not-noun:: (by Ruth Wilson)
12:14:43 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
IMAGINE!
Music, Art, Food, and Play attract ALL people to come together. How may we have peace and plenty for all? Here is a practical and fun way to start solving these issues… while enjoying COMMUNITY.
The up coming annual World Fest is designed to create enjoyable times allowing one to focus on the “Light” forces around our world, to mingle with different peoples, to allow sociological barriers to dissipate, and to learn dynamic ways for peace and thriving for ourselves and our planet, all the while bringing copious amounts of money to quality charities each year.
Live streaming allows for the world to participate as best they can and to be inspired! Major and minor cities around the world would participate on the same September Equinox weekend.
Check out the entire vision: www.theWorldFestOrganization.org
Connect with me if you feel inspired with the vision. We can make the Vision come ALIVE!
12:15:33 From amanda sebris to Everyone:
Thank you for a beautiful panel of Wise Souls! It all makes so much sense - 🙏💚
12:15:48 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Jinan KB: freedom is given by life, have freedom, rewiring is required. Children are the future, potential of indigenous beingness of nature, each generation gives us a fresh scope, modernity is against children/nature, children are here to teach adults, we should not be conditioning children, not disciplining, adults are with the problems, DO NOTHING PARENTING!!!
12:16:18 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
> ::https://globalinch.org/contributor/k-b-jinan/:: | ::https://globalinch.org/article/a-curriculum-for-artisans/::
12:16:34 From Connie and Andrew to Everyone:
Jim- we are not going “back” to anything! We’ve been thru an evolutionary process. Why would we choose to negate all this work we have done to transmute the energies of fear, separation and scarcity for all of Creation!! We’ve done a great job and now we get to open our hearts and shift into new frequencies where the laws are expanded and we bring something to the planet that has never been on the planet - and we shift all of Creation, because we ARE the Conscious Loving Universe! These men are bringing clues to how to align with the higher vibration through trust!!
12:17:02 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Isnt there a quote that says the closest 2 year old to you IS the closest Philosopher to you?
12:17:07 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Host and Panelists:
Dynamite program. Blasting the OLD paradigm apart for life to thrive
12:17:19 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Host and Panelists:
Thank You God
12:17:27 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
K: What is this about culture? Song, dance, ritual, look at a 2 year old child teach us what we must do, pure funnel of energy, energy beings, when mad and then the fight stopped after two minutes then continued playing, released energy of anger that comes thru human energy, if kept inside and stuffed inside self>>>Creates toxic pool that eventually will kill you, release all energy positive and negative
12:17:38 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Host and Panelists:
Children are the future! all focus has to go in this direction.. we treid to strat a school here.. ;;Integral University of the Being ..for teachers...they are in the front line needing to hsve a total new view. Expand perception
12:17:58 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
> ::https://www.youtube.com/@JinanKB:: (45 videos)
12:18:43 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Maria - please set the “to” to “everyone”
12:19:01 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Host and Panelists (12:17 PM)
Children are the future! all focus has to go in this direction.. we treid to strat a school here.. ;;Integral University of the Being ..for teachers...they are in the front line needing to hsve a total new view. Expand perception
12:19:41 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
JG: children on a plane glued to a screen mesmerized by electronic media, wrong way to bring child into a living dynamic world, What would be a good age, no toys, processes more than products, when to bring literacy in?
12:20:25 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Can Jinan speak to Childrens Parliaments?
12:20:29 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Connie -- interesting perspective.
12:21:07 From Connie and Andrew to Everyone:
Someone showed up at our door to teach my son to read. When the student is ready the teacher will come! We proved that one!
12:21:12 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
This idea is a little tricky since most kids are not immersed in the natural world.
12:21:35 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Being immersed in the natural world seems to be a huge advantage.
12:21:55 From Azita Moallef to Everyone:
::https://rie.org/::
12:22:25 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Host and Panelists:
My youngest daughter stayed out of the classroom until 10 years old...Waldorf school...and she is amazing...free, independent..
12:22:28 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
JKB: if children are left…drawing…after 3 years cognitive act to understand world, combine read/ write no forcing, Bangalore kids pick up 4 languages, in the ambiance, not worry about, how able to connect real world to drawing, personal self Expression, seeing with hands, awaken senses, born with potentials, awakened to potentials, huge with right conditions, instead of awakening kids potential we are conditioning them,
12:22:52 From Connie and Andrew to Everyone:
Anyone see “Jurassic Park”? Remember the kids who knew the computer who saved everyone! That’s what’s happening now with technology. Trust!!
12:23:11 From Frank M Tedesco, PhD to Everyone:
12:23:21 From Jinan K B to Kat Haber, Host and Panelists:
You are doing a good job
12:24:04 From Abner Delina to Everyone:
Ironically, educational systems have done more harm than good to children in the last few decades. School concept has separated children to the wider ecology and communities, as if there is a divide. The school has become limited to curriculum-based learning rather than ecology-based. And these gaps continue to grow because all these systems are created and designed for the industrialized and incomplete concepts of growth and success.
12:24:45 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Kuuyux: Word educated implies someone else is educating us, not us, indigenous ways of knowing are we learn from nature, Parents create space for kids to learn, be in nature, don’t tell them what to do, not recreation, but self education-OBSERVATION, not TV separates us from the world, by 5-6 already have grounding of who they are
12:25:29 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
I work with myself and adults in very similar ways you are describing - in supporting them in tapping into their intuition and aligning with a vision (come from a consciousness), then take action steps and navigate facts, always from the higher ‘vision’ frequency. Love if we started this with children, assume it would require less re-patterning and re-learning ;)
12:25:52 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
JG: Literacy/illiteracy need to be in the container of the world, encourage kids so Explore sensorially, in whichever part of the world they are in, Kuuyux with sea bird, Jim learned Chinese running in rice paddies all day
12:26:15 From Zu Peters to Everyone:
I chose to expose my children to the Montessori and Waldorf education, because I did not want them to suffer under the same educational system that I had to endure. It was worth all the effort and resources. Both Rudolf Steiner and Maria Montessori were very intuitive about the integrity, wisdom and genius of the growing child.
12:27:02 From Abner Delina to Everyone:
They say the success of the society can be judged as to how we give respect children, and treating them not as second-class citizens. Steiner-inspired education or much integrated approach have revealed much liberating results. Children should grow in various perspectives, in and outside spaces that are safe-based, trauma-informed, love-based etc.
12:27:46 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Yes love that point!
12:27:50 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
JKB: relook at modern knowledge paradigm, decode and refresh to stop this drama…scientists are now learning from children to create Artificial intelligence which will be used to dumb down children later, build a fantastic cognitive base of how children learn, embodiment drama invention of the mind, all a mind game, war is between the mind & the body, Mind dominating the body>>>artificial now so humans are not now required…
12:27:53 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Jinan - can we expect that all children learn the same way?
12:28:00 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Can Kuuyux speak to prophecy in his community?
12:28:25 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
I see Grandmother Mona is a Wisdom Weaver too!
12:28:58 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Ilarion, do you see/hear of an alignment of prophecy amongst these Elders you share space with globally?
12:29:01 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
I have noticed local teens have little time to Explore their own creativity and discoveries. They nearly have their life planned out by age 15. I feel sad that so much of this vitality is so directed they have little time/mind space to be fully themselves!
12:29:11 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
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12:29:39 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
The Elders are gathering! This is so exciting!
12:29:55 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
Wisdom weavers.world
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::http://wisdomweavers.world::
12:30:00 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Kuuyux: From Columbian elders will realize a dream around the world by creating a vibrational field that will be an alternative to the consciousness field now. World Wide and done simultaneously Wisdom Weavers
12:30:02 From Nan Woodman to Everyone:
Thank you for this fabulous discussion!
12:30:04 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
We get a lot of "heart" in movies; for example, ::https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/wonder-2017:: | ::https://www.theatlantic.com/entertainment/archive/2017/12/wonder-is-a-feel-good-movie-that-needed-more-realism/548828/::
In the literary world we get access to "heart" in poetry, stories, novels. Now we are asking for more "heart" (empathy?) in our common, civil, and scientific discourse. How to balance heart and mind? (BTW a function of the kydney is to regulate.)
12:30:05 From Abner Delina to Everyone:
And we approach climate emergency work from a very short-term lens, but what we regret to consider is to nurture communities of children who can continue to carry the light in their hearts. The gaps of generations and cultures must be addressed and this includes having everyone a seat at the table because this is all our home, and we are all stewards of this planet.
12:30:11 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
There you go -- a vibrational field is probably the only way to influence everyone. Wonderful!
12:30:15 From Connie and Andrew to Everyone:
I held forums on education in Aspen, CO with visionary Native elders and the aspen educators in the 90’s and developed “The Aspen Model” ::https://TheTrustFrequency.net/The-Aspen-Model::
12:30:31 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Thank you both sooo much!
12:30:56 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Thank you both!
12:31:04 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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12:31:07 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Thank you for sharing your wisdom with us today!!!
12:31:08 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Wisdom shared! Thank you, Ilarion and Jinan. Thanks for inviting these 2 men to share, Jim.
12:31:11 From Abner Delina to Everyone:
Thank you so much for all your work!
12:31:12 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:
Wonderful day
12:31:37 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Our world gets wider and brighter through Humanity Rising!!
12:31:38 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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