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Humanity Rising Day 601 After Chat – Monday December 12, 2022
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00:02:15 Stanley Pokras: This is the afterchat for Day 601
00:05:52 Diane S: Or.... Just put your email address in the chat here
00:11:35 Shannon McArthur: Welcome to the AfterChat! Thanks to Stan Pokras, we’ve been meeting here since Day 60 of Humanity Rising. He sends out an email every day with the links to the HR recording and this recording, along with the chats for both. If you’d like to receive the email, send Stan a message with your email.
00:13:26 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: “Your Mike is OFF” rather than “You’re on Mute.”
Honors the deaf and the TRUTH.
00:13:57 Shannon McArthur: Prof. Timothy Snider, history of Ukraine
00:16:41 Sarah Sue-Belize Carol Sue Engleman-Facebook: When you fight you lose
00:18:12 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Kurt’s identical twin is a “Trumper” and we communicate about the core issue rather than the BS the media offered.
00:19:26 Stanley Pokras: This is a TED Talk that points up the need for people to know how we know stuff and we need to figure out what we want…. What we know…. What do we want… see this TED Talk… (which is poorly named…) ::https://othernetworks.org/How_The_Net_Destroyed_Democracy_(Thing_One_%26_Thing_Two)::
00:21:19 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Just sent: People in the AfterChat asked, if you have tried to present any of these awesome programs/ideas on NETFLIX.
00:22:27 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: "THE WORLD IS AS YOU SEE IT!" ~ VASISTHA's last instructions to Rama before Rama went to take over his kingdom. From the book, Vasistha’s Yoga Let’s see the world Thrive again. Max Planck, Quantum Physicist, offered his view: “When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.”
Free MasterMindGroups ~ to be all you can be to bring Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace: ::https://noblegoldman.com/fun/intentional-change-network/kurtkrueger::
00:23:59 Diane S: I'll be brief xxx
00:25:36 Diane S: Same as big pharma doesn't want us to be healthy!!
00:26:43 Diane S: And people are full of fear - so we need to spread and share LOVE!!!
00:27:55 Diane S: And politicians need to start listening as - the people are talking - here in the UK at least.
00:28:11 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Imagine when there is a set limit on funding for elections… only $50 million…
00:30:10 Stanley Pokras: This is a TED Talk that points up the need for people to know how we know stuff and we need to figure out what we want…. What we know…. What do we want… see this TED Talk… (which is poorly named…) ::https://othernetworks.org/How_The_Net_Destroyed_Democracy_(Thing_One_%26_Thing_Two)::
00:30:14 Patricia Aguirre: went into the TED talk...but doesnt show
00:30:29 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: A bold idea to replace politicians
César Hidalgo’s TedTalk has a radical suggestion for fixing our broken political system: automate it! In this provocative talk, he outlines a bold idea to bypass politicians by empowering citizens to create personalized AI representatives that participate directly in democratic decisions. Explore a new way to make collective decisions and expand your understanding of democracy. ::https://www.ted.com/talks/cesar_hidalgo_a_bold_idea_to_replace_politicians#t-776285::
AND
David Bismark: E-voting without fraud
00:30:30 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Loving Your Enemies. Well worth the viewing, especially NOW. Whatever party, race, gender…
Tim Shriver: In Conversation with Arthur Brooks, On Loving Your Enemies.
What a digital government looks like | Anna Piperal
What if you could help decide how the government spends public funds? | Shari Davis
14 minutes for more trust
00:31:04 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: PREVENT POLITICAL CORRUPTION
Represent.us is focused on only this. And has numerous ways to do it! 90% of the people in MANY countries would agree with this short video.
Peace LAB
LABoratory ~ experiments, investigates, researches, and explorations, and some emergent design … ALSO
LAByrinth ~ one winding, irregular, peaceful path in and out!
OtherNetworks.org/Peace_LAB
You may want to look at Aviram Rozin's work in food production, housing, and for flood control ... Let me know what you think. It’s been working around the world in rural and impoverished areas. :)
www.sadhanaforest.org.
00:31:06 Shannon McArthur: Click the first link on the page, Patricia
00:34:12 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Kurt got to be interviewed by Dr. Fred on this podcast called Welcome To Humanity - Slaying the Separation Demon segment. It was a provocative discussion for these days and we think you’ll enjoy it! The Oligarchs and our mind use DivIde and Conquer to continue to rule. Love your feedback.
Dr. Fred found that simple word usage and especially the commercial media, Separate us. This enables us to be divided and stimulates fears and thus be more 'controlled' to an amazing degree. It was a really fun, and profound discussion.
Why do blessings abound when You're around?
Love,
Kurt Krueger
OR from another great resource for much inspiration - the above link with be there too.
00:36:04 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: JIM G. Just responded to Kurt’s query: Not yet but when we get to HRN we will try to get a strategic partner.
00:38:19 maureenedwardson3@gmail.com: Please forgive me but I need to go to another commitment....thank you so much Sarah Sue and all....will catch the rest in the replay.
00:38:31 Shannon McArthur: Lovely to have you with us!!
00:39:10 Stanley Pokras: My Responsive Campaign can be seen in this Change.org campaign: ::https://chng.it/nkPRjssx5X::
00:39:13 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: This was just sent in response to Jim’s reply: Giving them an example of the work and ideals of the programing could get A program produced ASAP on their network and open the doors for them being a partner of HRN. Are there any thoughts that could open Jim to this?
00:42:36 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: JIM, Had a call. I can tomorrow for 30 mins
00:42:47 Patricia Aguirre: Thank you all...need to go. See you all tomorrow
00:42:53 Shannon McArthur: Bless you
00:43:34 Stanley Pokras: My Responsive Campaign can be seen in this Change.org campaign: ::https://chng.it/nkPRjssx5X::
00:53:02 Leo Jacoby: Dear Dreamers: Imagine
Song by John Lennon
LyricsVideosListen
Imagine there's no heaven
It's easy if you try
No hell below us
Above us, only sky
Imagine all the people
Livin' for today
Ah
Imagine there's no countries
It isn't hard to do
Nothing to kill or die for
And no religion, too
Imagine all the people
Livin' life in peace
You
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will be as one
Imagine no possessions
I wonder if you can
No need for greed or hunger
A brotherhood of man
Imagine all the people
Sharing all the world
You
You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one
00:53:24 Shannon McArthur: Wonderful lyrics, Leo. Thank you… imagine…
00:54:48 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: YES, Leo the hearty connector of left and right brain…
00:54:50 Diane S: Brilliant Leo - I was just looking at your pic and thinking "Leo's there and hasn't spoken" so .... Thank you xxxxx
00:56:39 Leo Jacoby: Diane, it was so good on Saturday when Shannon shared her visit with you including pictures of you and your home, and your activism. Your mighty smile changes the world.
00:57:33 Stanley Pokras: MEETING THE ENEMY - Men's Rights movement
A feminist comes to terms with the Men's Rights movement | Cassie Jaye | TEDxMarin
When feminist filmmaker Cassie Jaye sets out to document the mysterious and polarizing world of the Men’s Rights Movement, she begins to question her own beliefs. ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WMuzhQXJoY::
01:04:17 Shannon McArthur: ::https://maureenedwardson.com/::
01:05:39 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Check out ULF's Trauma dharma. Here’s a simple and effective stress/trauma release. Outstanding soul like you...

The Intersection of Trauma, Compassion and Value Economics, https:/youtu.be/_gx9ei2QrUM, Ulf Sandstrom, Chip Williams, Ann Helmke, David Pinto, Day 195 of Humanity Rising produced by the Peace Lab.
01:05:51 Diane S: Gosh Leo!! I'm so glad you saw my home - have to say I was sad that I was not able to be there too - would love to see the video!! So lovely to see you presence again too xxxxx
01:06:32 Bob de'B: Since our political process has unerringly directed our military and it's loyal servants over the last 50 years.... maybe we should do the "this/and - strategies" as well as we might - instead of expecting our political process to unfold gracefully with either/or disputes.
For instance, since we at HR have been introduced in past weeks to methods of discovery of the best paths we might now take.
PEAR might have been made available to us. Does anyone here have a connection?
Has anyone considered asking the PEAR research team where would be the best place to put our energies - where to make the best connections for our planet and futurity?
I was reading
Bill Bradley, former US senator from NJ.
Honored Steve Cohen and his ability to avoid war.
01:06:34 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Still trippin
01:06:55 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Without psychotropics too. Or with… 🙂
01:06:58 Leo Jacoby: Diane, Stan recorded Shannon's travelogue, so it must be available in the ether space Stan creates.
01:07:20 Diane S: Ahaaaaaa! Brilliant!!!
01:07:49 Shannon McArthur: I’m working on making a film of the presentation that will be shorter, but you’re more than welcome to see the original!!
01:08:12 Diane S: Ooooooh!!! Thank you xxxxx
01:08:24 Shannon McArthur: Bob, I was at the making Wyrd the Norm Conference…
01:08:53 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Bob, so you’re in the UK?
01:09:01 Bob de'B: Peter Merry?
01:09:59 Bob de'B: So maybe there's a group that is presenting questions to PEAR already maybe?
01:13:21 Shannon McArthur: Maybe, Bob, but if you would like me to present a question to PEAR, let’s make it a good one…
01:14:17 Stanley Pokras: Bob… I searched OtherNetworks.org for PEAR… Here is the result: ::https://othernetworks.org/index.php?search=PEAR&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go::
01:14:57 Leo Jacoby: Thank you, Bob, for Bill Bradley's tribute to Steve Cohen, published October 9, 2020! Had we listened then. The "special military operation" started February 24, 2022.
01:15:13 Shannon McArthur: I have to go… this has been great!!
01:15:21 Bob de'B: Jim may have been beaten up a bit by people with a religious background
01:16:29 Stanley Pokras: Bob… Jim claims to have marks on his body left by the missionary people who ran the elementary school he attended.
01:16:32 Kat Haber: America’s life Expectancy dropped for the second year in a row.
01:21:09 Diane S: Have to go - LOVELY to see you all xxxxxxxxxx
01:23:07 Leo Jacoby: The Wyrd Experience is home of the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research lab (PEAR).
01:23:44 Leo Jacoby: Shannon attended the recent WYRD Conference and talked about it in her travelogue.
01:27:16 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: The winged pharaoh
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