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Humanity Rising Day 489 After Chat – Wednesday June 1, 2022
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00:01:22 Kate McCallum: kate@consciouscreativity.com
00:01:31 Kate McCallum: Nice to be here! Thank you!
00:02:19 Shannon McArthur: Hello Mark! Lovely to have you here!
00:02:36 Mark H. UK, Chester (none-any): good to see you all again
00:03:21 Kurt Krueger: Thanks for your work for a thriving life. Together in collaboration and dialogue, we get to prompt the world back into thriving for ALL our relations. See how we can do it even faster with the Peace Lab, www.OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab
Have a magical day creating the Grandest Version of Your Greatest Vision!
Kurt Krueger, PHD (Playing Happily Daily), AnotherU,
OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab
www.SuccessSystemsInternational.net
Going Beyond Your Beyond Youtube Channel: ::https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnRMOnm-PYm40VeTxkSJxyA::
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The World Fest, www.theWorldFestOrganization.org. ‘We don't address their brains; we address their hearts.’ ~ Nelson Mandela
00:03:31 Stanley Pokras: This is the AfterChat for Day 489
00:04:06 moses stevens: mo two >> e mail addresses most@gorge.net and email most711@icloud.com
00:05:10 Stanley Pokras: We will be sending the Humanity Rising Chat out today and every day. Send me your email address.
00:05:13 Kate McCallum: Sorry have to leave! www.consciouscreativity.org forgot I had another ZOOM call. Am dedicated to use of storytelling, arts and media to transmit this type of wisdom! Have a lovely day!
00:12:33 Dawn Mazzone: Thanks for mentioning "Where to Invade Next" by Michael Moore
00:12:50 Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize: Its not about the people who own guns. It is about those who are trying to take away our free will because the want to take away the guns before they create more unrest so they can put people in concentration camps which are all ready over the US and Canada with gas chambers in old Walmarts and Army Barracks. They are trying to create the atmosphere so we vote out the free will to have guns. I personally would never have one as I am one who don't want that energy and you have to look behind what it appears.
00:13:01 Karri-ann Flater: Disrupter
00:13:27 Shannon McArthur: see her picture in the dictionary beside that term!!
00:13:40 Dawn Mazzone: Also Thank You for mentioning tomorrow's guest Gabrielle Cousins.
00:14:18 moses stevens: mental health is a problem that must b
00:15:15 Kurt Krueger: You know that when we take some responsibility for being the Peace where we are, we are then models for others to follow ~ the ripples begin with us!
Here’s a 15 minute video on a psycho-somatic-spiritual PeaceMaker Meditation. ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo:: Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace. will reverberate throughout your day… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and ‘others.’
Groups are forming together or through teleconference to bring more Peace to our home planet. Together we fly more easily ~ like the two wings of a bird…

The Peace LAB/IMAGINED practices/programs dramatically reduces violence, recidivism, and wars… We get what we focus upon. Let's share our ideas and expertise.
Be a Member of Peace LAB/IMAGINED by taking action! Meditating, smiling, sharing Love...
"Because you are alive, everything is possible."
Thích Nhat Hanh
00:15:52 moses stevens: must be looked at and help find repair ….prisons elderly care. military, >>the list is bigger than we think or KNOW..
00:16:11 Kurt Krueger: FREE Living Values Education Program: The first two Values instructed are Love and Peace. All the other Values are generated from these. Thus affecting ALL life on our planet in every day.
This program, ::http://LivingValues.net:: that has over 90% reduction in violence in a Thai Refugee Camp within 2 years! The woman who developed it then went to Johannesburg, RSA and designed a program for street people - similar results! Character Inclusion for Regenerative Societies, Diane Tillman, Daniel Allen. ::https://youtu.be/08sYrYfNvnw:: a Humanity Rising Global Solutions Summit program produced by the Peace Lab.
PARENTING is awesomely effective in opening our hearts and expanding them. Read and apply: Nurturing with Love and Wisdom, Disciplining with Peace and Respect: Mindful Parenting, by Diane Tillman. Have the Living Values practices taught is schools… For 2 minutes listen to this: ::https://youtu.be/A7VQHNd_MKE::
00:17:41 Kurt Krueger: "THE WORLD IS AS YOU SEE IT!" ~ VASISTHA's last instructions to Rama before Rama went to take over his kingdom. From the book, Vasistha’s Yoga Let’s see the world Thrive again. Max Planck, Quantum Physicist, offered his view: “When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.”
00:18:48 Kurt Krueger: Infinite Potential
David Bohm’s documentary
Implicate Order, the Bonding ONENESS of All Wholeness. This film scientifically supports the Metaphysical experiences and teaching of the Mystics of all ages.
The Observer and the Observed. This verifies the ancient teaching, "THE WORLD IS AS YOU SEE IT!" ~ VASISTHA's last instructions to Rama before Rama went to take over his kingdom. From the book, Vasistha’s Yoga
We are Co-Producers of life/experiences. Everyone is In-Formation. How do we choose to decide to inter-act with the Earth, with Each Other?
See what you think/feel… ::https://youtu.be/_WFV1AXydXk::
Unity is also the second of The Four Sacred Gifts, a great book by an elder, Anita Sanchez.
00:19:47 Michael Coles: "Do not Speak for Tomorrow"
Speak in the Now for the Now while healing a Now with the feeling of Now compassionately as Now becomes a new Tomorrow of many in the Now.
So Speak
"A Better Now for Tomorrow"
~A Grandfather
00:20:13 Karri-ann Flater: I love that Michael
00:20:20 Shannon McArthur: Harmonius
00:20:27 Kurt Krueger: IMAGINE:
You are thriving in the future. Everyone experiences Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace.
You are the last elder alive who ever experienced anything other than peace, “How did we get to have Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace?”
What is the answer given?
The more the detail, in as many areas of living, provides the path forward from these primitive times. Remember one of the world scriptures says: “Where there is no vision, the people will perish.”
See OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab for possibly adding your collaborative contribution for the future of a thriving life.
“The center of the Universe is Everywhere. The Circumference Nowhere.” ~ Black Elk
00:23:11 Michael Coles: Free Will, comes from the Heart.
One does not have to Like you (mind) in order to Love You(Heart).
For (Freedom) Free of Domination does not come from another
Free Will comes from allowing your heart to speak instead of the mind.
"Thy WILL Be Done"
Live free Love free, Share free.
00:26:17 Stanley Pokras: There is a great TED Talk that reviews the ways that the population shared information over time and reviews how we come to know what we believe over the last two centuries. How do we know and what do we believe… these are things to contepmplate as the media has changed.
00:26:21 Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize: For me, Kurt that link said it was unavailable
00:26:21 Stanley Pokras: ::https://othernetworks.org/How_The_Net_Destroyed_Democracy_(Thing_One_%26_Thing_Two)::
00:27:46 Kurt Krueger: I have a Peace Lab meeting at the hour, prepping for tomorrow’s program. CU soon. 🙂 Keep coming back, it works, when we work it.
00:28:13 Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize: Thank you Kurt
00:32:20 Karri-ann Flater: Intelligence vs. Wisdom
00:32:28 Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize: There was a picture of the atom in the Oahspe that was channeled in 1881 and a picture of a star before we had the equipment to see it.
00:35:31 Karri-ann Flater: response-ability
00:49:15 Karri-ann Flater: I raised by a mother who was traumatized by her mother, who was probably traumatized by her mother... For me I have made the choice to take self-responsibility and do my best to break that trauma cycle. But "doing my best" means I can only do what I can do, the best that I can.
00:54:12 Karri-ann Flater: I was resonating with everything you were saying Michael, thank you for sharing
00:54:37 Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize: I love you Patricia!
01:01:13 Mark H. UK, Chester (none-any): I'm resonating with Patricia, which to me flows with what Michael was saying as I understood it, and then back to Linda - the freedom seems to me to be to be in alignment/connection with the implicate and the creative flow, and is limited by influences that lead to disconnection from our natural alignment.
01:02:33 Dawn Mazzone: The Art pf Loving by Erich Fromm
01:04:31 Dawn Mazzone: Also important book - The Alphabet vs The Goddess by Leonard Shlain
01:05:02 Patricia Aguirre: I recommend Art of Love of Anthony de Mello a hindu jesuit who expands on the scriptures of the Evangelist..bible...in na amazing way of consciousnees much broader...
01:05:16 Mark H. UK, Chester (none-any): I am hearing some confluence in this discussion, and regret having to leave. Thank you all for this mix of humanity. Love to all.
01:05:18 Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize: Thank you Stan Yes media has been controlled since we brought more than 72K Nazi's over including Joseph Goebbels, Hitler' Minister of Propaganda and to this day is considered the best and they settled in Laurel Canyon in California and have been controlling our media ever since and that has been shaping our beliefs so we think what we think because of that media so is that free will? Even my beloved Walter Cronkite was broadcasting out of a CIA operation in Laurel Canyon!
01:05:36 Karri-ann Flater: I believe money and guns and media are not inherently evil - they are neutral tools, it's the way they are used by humans that create the experience we are having now
01:06:01 Patricia Aguirre: thank you all...I need to go also!
01:06:58 Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize: Thank you Mark!!!!
01:07:12 Brian Burke: Thank you, Mark. Thank you all for a stimulating discussion
01:14:08 Karri-ann Flater: That's awesome Carol Sue! I didn't realize you knew Bruce Lipton personally. I have been following him for a few years, his work has transformed my life
01:20:25 Stanley Pokras: Here’s a wonderful school…. It's called the Philly Free School… Where the kids determine what they do and how the school works: ::https://wikidelphia.org/Philly_Free_School_(PFS)::
01:21:45 Linda DeHart: May Love arise in Everyone, so that in our dying we become LOVE which never dies.
01:23:51 Karri-ann Flater: I could stay in this conversation all day, but it is time for me to tend to my kiddos 💖 Love to all of you!
01:24:26 Stanley Pokras: Yay for kiddos….
01:27:29 Michelle Massi: Yay for our future , the most precious gift of all our kiddos
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