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Humanity Rising Day 368 Chat Page – Monday November 22, 2021
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In Which Jim Garrison Suggested People to Write to Him...12:28:23
11:08:45 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
today- Next Steps for Climate Movement Day 368 - Lets's get the info together about all the people concerned... https://othernetworks.org/Category:Serves-Planet_Earth
11:09:11 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Happy Healthy Week Everyone🙏 Welcome Roger🌎
11:10:11 From Shelly Alcorn to Everyone:
@maureen Ruth Cunningham was the vocalist - Here is Ruth's YouTube channel - https://www.youtube.com/user/ruthreid
11:10:41 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Good morning, Roger! Good morning, All… please remember to include Everyone here in the chatbox so we see what you say. Thank you for being here with us…
11:10:53 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
More strategy, please!!
11:11:04 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
Perhaps a global general strike is possible?
11:11:56 From Erik Cornish to Everyone:
Enlightened Global Government based on Unified Consciousness is my dream!
11:12:14 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Time to garden INDOORS!!
11:12:25 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
Jim, I'd love if you were to talk to your friend, Lynne Twist to hear her take on COP26. I was incredibly inspired by her sharing about it. I'd love you to be able to add it to the possibility that people hear. Maybe you would have her on again to share it herself.
11:14:12 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
Transitional Governance based upon pre-colonial democratic processes, like Indigenous consensus AND greek era Citizens Assembly; blended with newer community management systems like Neighborocracy
11:16:13 From Robert Funkhouser to Everyone:
Maybe methods Gandhi used - non-violent, non-cooperation. Vote, vote with your wallet, share the truth with voice and pen...
11:18:53 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
The time has come for every single one of us to take responsibility for our own actions and MAKE the world a better place to live!!
11:19:21 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
Focus on what we CAN do!!
11:20:42 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
It's just that there are already some actions/solutions that are available that our government could do to make massive change!! (As well as us ordinary people watching where we put our money and what we consume!!)
11:21:28 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
What we all can do: Collect information about who is working on caring for the planet. Http://othernetworks.org and https://othernetworks.org/Category:Serves-Planet_Earth
11:22:04 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
And start caring too!!! Yes, Stanley!!! Let's start caring!!!
11:25:05 From Marty Levin to Everyone:
Hi Stan, thanks for creating that website. I've been missing our Philly ECO District meetings. Let's connect soon.
11:25:57 From Veronica Polo to Everyone:
I feel like he’s talking about the Orange vMEME needing to transition to the Green vMEME combined with some healthy Red, and hopefully to second-tier. I’m using Spiral Dynamics terms.
11:26:21 From Marty Levin to Everyone:
Hi Mary, thanks for sharing about Lynne Twist. I think she brings a unique perspective to these kinds of conversations.
11:27:00 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:
@Marty- agreed
11:28:21 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
Namaste! COP26 opened an amazing opportunity! If I may be so bold to submit that a plan to unite the people of the world, all the movements, religions, and mayors and community leaders under one umbrella is prepared.
To create political clout, I recommend to FIRST UNITE the climate and peace movement. A complete strategy is ready.
Mary Robinson, stated, “We are faced by a gathering storm of extinction-level consequences, and time is running out. We cannot continue with business as usual.”
The plan is a new global peace movement – a Global Movement of Nonviolence (GMofNV). We need a peace to create trust and respect among nations and people to set in motion the reallocation of military spending to the climate, Covid, and humanitarian efforts.
11:31:43 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
If Naomi Klein, Christiana Figueres, GRETA THUNBERG, VANDANA SHIVA, Mary Robinson, Jennifer Morgan of Greenpeace, and many others unite, then invite the women leaders of peace movements and organizations, it can begin a chain reaction for everyone to join!
The full strategy to enlist the WOMEN leaders is ready. Show them their power.
A GMofNV is not the usual plan! WE cannot charge up the middle in an open field against the enemy’s cannons! We tact and guile and creativeness! WOMEN can make it happen.
The key is to promote NONVIOLENCE as the GOAL!
11:31:59 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
One of the branches of the the Peace Labs wheel is ENVIRONMENT. As you've seen though the power of eating a diet for a healthy body/Gaia by seeing the documentary EATING TO EXTINCTION.. and using the book DRAWDOWN, that demonstrates the # 6 of 100 most effective way to reverse global warming is Educating Women! Let's play together ASAP. The time is ripe.
We'd love to collaborate with you in bringing Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace.
Please connect yourself and your work with The Global Regeneration Corps~ https://globalregenerationcorps.com. It is a platform to bring ALL CARING and HELPFUL people’s around the world together in the work we’re here to do. Then post your expertise and quest and organization on other networks, and see what you can do with the Peace Lab’s vision: Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace, www.OtherNetworks.org. and
Connect with we members of the PEACE LAB/IMAGINED… Kurt Krueger, AnotherU,
SuccessSystemsInternational.net
11:32:22 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
For over 30 years its been proven that no one gives a shit about the climate……what we need to do is draw the narrative towards the colonial mindset…because the colonial mindset is whats created the existing globalized supplychain, fueled by marginalized labour of children.
The SAME colonial mindset that buried 7000 + indigenous gravesites in so called “Canada”
11:33:44 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
Hi, Marty... Great to see you here! There's not been many (if any) Philly Eco meetings lately.
11:34:28 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
Marty, please consider joining the AfterChat which I host...
11:35:05 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
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With love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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11:35:37 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
ROGER, What would you like to happen this Sunday ~ for mass resistance?
11:36:28 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
This is so important, Thank you 🙏
11:37:03 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Losing everything forever! Emergency demands we emerge differently. Xponentially morale demand to do all we can to survive. Species are blinking out, millions going into civil resistance within weeks>>>then more & more join>>>same process globally in next year or 2 over 2 weeks quickly in sesparation, in horror, maximize this happening as soon as possible, functional extinction is upon us (did anyone get the first two Civil resistance=25% of surviving massively disrupt your society-individual consciousness, a few people decide it is enough)?
11:37:21 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
It is time for ACTION. A GMofNV is an Emergency Plan. We can unite via a movement of nonviolence!
Let’s enlist the women leaders first, then invite the men. It isn’t just for women. It certainly is different and opens up millions of avenues for ideas. The plan is a guideline.
It is the “PEOPLE” that are going to create the power.
Andre Sheldon
Director, Global Strategy of Nonviolence
Andre@GlobalStrategyofNonviolence.org
11:37:28 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
Simply look towards indigenous resistance, currently in action , in so called Canada
11:39:04 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
A global general strike with a plan to insert a global council of Watershed Grandmothers, that run parallel with the UN
11:39:48 From Veronica Polo to Everyone:
Specially prepared presentations for senators and congressmen in the Unites States, especially the ones that don’t support climate legislation, should be a priority. But I don’t know which groups would have access to them.
11:39:49 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Global Consciousness Unified is imperative w/ non-violent action, over & over again!
11:40:13 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
How do you mobilize the hundreds of millions of people quite comfortable with the status quo?
11:40:14 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Erm, what table, please? Seems we are all on the menu at this one….
11:40:45 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
Thanks for stating this - I agree - what actions really work! Yes to the tipping point!
11:41:25 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
https://www.tiktok.com/@poorcameraquality/video/7020520394905963782:: (A Tic Tok dude offering his idea for Dealing with large corporations)
11:41:35 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Right On! Tipping Point EVERYWHERE! Fight for it!
11:42:00 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Xtinction Rebellion: occupation of the capital city, main show, labor strike-maximizes probability of success elements: disciplined non violence, block roads everyday 10-50,000 in medium sized country for 10-20 days>bring gov to table, not complicated, stop work/functioning, 2019 London, 1,200 arrests, 10 days, realization that climate crisis is real, met with politicians, declared climate emergency, massive empowerment that broke through, reason people are not mobilizing due to no pathway for no credible action, see people getting arrested will break through depression, all hates a dictator then everyone goes to streets during the tipping point, replicate this post COVID (destroyed mobilization during the pandemic) now in civil resistance, more rigorous version with people in prison, ignoring, laughing at you, entering the fighting stage, classical civil resisitena ce in Western Democracies
11:42:18 From Shelly Alcorn to Everyone:
11:42:56 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
Stan, that link didn’t work.
11:43:01 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
Arab spring failed byway of surrounding dictators locked down social media
11:43:24 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
JG: Why did Arab spring fail? Revolutionary fervor, various forces enter the fray> unexpected outcomes,
11:43:26 From Shelly Alcorn to Everyone:
Gene Sharp 198 methods of non-violent action https://www.aeinstein.org/nonviolentaction/198-methods-of-nonviolent-action/
11:43:34 From Robert Funkhouser to Everyone:
Action and change MUST include China. If the U.S. and Europe get to carbon neutral by 2040 and China continues business as usual, to not reach their peak of carbon emissions until 2030 then all is still lost!
11:43:47 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
As erdogan froze facebook, to stop the momentum of the youth standing in Tahir square
11:44:47 From Hilary Van Welter to Everyone:
We should understand that any form of creativity and innovation that we desperately need now goes out the window with crisis mentality and fear mongering
11:44:56 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
Charles - unite people (on many levels) with food (growing and cooking and socializing). Saw an AfterChat a couple of weeks ago and you, Stan, Kurt and David S discussed psychedelics and more and - will make an effort to write and let you know - the path to unification and peace xxx At the moment, people just don't care. Apologies but - as Stanley says - How to Grow Caring!!!
11:45:16 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
GHG need to be attributed to importing countries NOT exporting countries… this is a divisionary tactic, to suggest any of this is China’s fault
11:45:18 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
Michael Moore offered this video about what has gone wrong with the Climate movement... it's called Planet of the Humans https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zk11vI-7czE
11:46:56 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Thank you Roger for this emergent clarification!
11:47:12 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
This is IT!
11:47:51 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Roger Hallam: why did you ask that question-assumption, presupposes a certain frame, global north middle class privilege assumption, privilege comes from being in a position to make a choice, not on streets because we might end up with Bolsheviks, going to anyway going to end up with social authoritarianism, investigate the psychology of the question, historical determinism, cherry pick an episode from history with no clear connection to current situation, may have an insight but is not determinative, moral point: this moment is not just another moment in history, this is a fundamentally different THIS IS SURVIVAL! can not vaguely asocial historical events with this moment extreme infinite evil is nothing like any previous historical event, revolutionary actions have a tendency to not go well-SO WHAT? What is the alternative, we are having social collapse anyway, how to minimize social collapse coming in this inevitability, no guarantees, how to design civil resistance given its the only option available
11:48:06 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
That's why, this moment in history - this SPECIAL moment in history - needs a view of the bigger picture. Everything that happened up to now was part of a bigger picture - and that is why - when we see the bigger pic, we can see and understand and what are the next steps to take.
11:48:52 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
First step - we are all part of one being (planet earth)so - take care with your/our actions!!
11:49:11 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
Civil resistance was tried in Belarus and Myanmar and it hasn’t gone well.
11:49:38 From Aida to Everyone:
How do you know that civil disobedience is the only option
11:50:56 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
Civil disobedience in that - watch where you put your money. Stop buying products that come from unethical companies (Nestle, Coca Cola et al)
11:51:35 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
“Economic Resistance” might work better than civil resistance.
11:51:44 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:
That’s why the Bolsheviks came into power; when the Czarist regime fell, they were already organized to take the reigns of social direction
11:51:45 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
'They' want us to be robots who keep supporting the greedy companies who are destroying the planet. That can change. We can change that!!
11:52:15 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
Great phrase - economic resistance!!
11:52:17 From Jane Norton to Everyone:
agree with Diane and Charles-there's a lot we can economically
11:52:18 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
I humbly submit that it is time to take XR to the highest level – for both peace and climate. We have to "Reach into Every Household" and WOMEN are waiting for something GOOD to HAPPEN - Something Different
The new plan includes:
The LARGEST MARKETING CAMPAIGN ever seen
The LARGEST PEOPLE MOVEMENT ever seen
The LARGEST MOVEMENT OF NONVIOLENCE ever seen!
We need to be OVERT, use exclamations - bold statements.
WOMEN can demand NONVIOLENCE !!!!
We need CIVIL RESISTANCE but nonviolence
also promotes GOOD WILL.
FIRST Gandhi and King asked the people to commit to nonviolence! The step leads to the "mobilization structure" Roger is asking for!
11:52:19 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Host and Panelists:
I’d suggest looking at Joe
11:52:38 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:
“Economic Resistance” is definitely a form of civil resistance
11:52:42 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
RH: if a movement is ambiguous about violence then violent forces come to it, pushing out the nonviolence, messiness of history, substantively methodology of nonviolence of Martin Luther King, on the edges were violent events, look at the evidence, have a congruent leadership structure, easy to bring down a government, >disintegration of movement, horizontally sculptures epically attractive> mass civil resistance, downside day after revolution what happens next? affective at getting attention of leaders, in a crisis we need leadership, yet might get shot, without leadership> chaos, >maximize probabilities, effective mobilization structure embedded within nonviolence structure, aggregate demands, affinity group, civil resistance training, solidity approach, people on their own need support structures, +10 more things, 1. absolute commitment to non violence 2. Leadership 3. concrete method of mobilization
11:52:45 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
The WOMEN create the organized LEADERSHIP!
11:52:45 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
(Seeing as this troubled world functions on money as our god!!)
11:52:47 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
The only difference between an international quarantine and a global general strike , is the permission.
11:54:02 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Host and Panelists:
I’d suggest looking at Joe Brewer/Earth Regenerators - the earth will to be actively regenerated, so maybe focusing on that and just leaving the political - green earth is a must.
11:54:51 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:
WECAN -Women’s Earth and Climate Action Network is excellent
11:55:00 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
How do we prevent purposeful violent elements from disrupting non-violent protests?
11:55:31 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
JG: full disclosure: 70’s, 80’s took on Seabrook reactor in New Hampshire > nuclear movement in US, zeitgeist of event> movement, Clam shell alliance for Jim, coordinated nonviolence training, going up against police violence, remain non violent under all circumstances, from that movement as an activist, believes not until there is coherent willingness to die for something that we begin to live for something, not easy to go interrupt roads, in US radically escalated prison sentences for civil disobedience, tolerance for actions that now are considered felonies with multiyear sentences to deter climate activists
11:55:35 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Thank you Jim for your historic journey…these questions are so important to get clarification on what we’re ALL up against to support Climate Actionable Change!
11:55:57 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
JG: history/lineage of the willing to protest
11:56:01 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
The step to begin the movement is to ask prominent non-governmental women leaders to issue a CALL to WOMEN, a World-Wide Unity Campaign -- ask women everywhere to be the first to rise-up and unite as the peacemakers via nonviolence, then INVITE the MEN.
11:56:27 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
A global council of Watershed Grandmothers
11:57:07 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
Yaaaay!! Watershed Grandmothers!!!
11:57:14 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
Action!!!
11:57:16 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Roger, thank you, you are our compass on navigation 🙌🌎❤️
11:58:51 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
We need to do borderless general strike, planned well in advance, based on Indigenous Prophecy; coordinated connected watershed actions
11:59:11 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
LIke the #eagleandcondor prophecy
11:59:23 From kathryn davison to Host and Panelists:
Watershed Grandmothers, yes!
12:00:41 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
RH: all standing on the shoulders of others, Welsh farmer with talent for analysis, hundreds of these and after a while, OK so it might not work question or hey here in XXX its hard XYZ…subliminal assumption is materialistic defeatism, we are being with a spirit, can say we are not calculating machines, absorbs reductive ethic, if nasty people won’t do it, people like danger, going into danger, dancing with death, human psychology that supports this it is true, significant minority changes history, the bigger the repression of the state, more likely civil resistance will be successful, defeatist left, in American things are getting worse, this is terrible, outrageous injustice, history of repression, underlying logic therefore we are powerless, by not saying the challenge. culture of disempowerment, analysis and needs to say the worse it gets the more likely people will rebel/need to rebel/will win=20th century model, humanity rising thing and now go into civil resistance, no matter what is the moral duty
12:01:03 From Diane Skidmore to Everyone:
Good words - moral duty!! Bring back moral values!! It DOES help!!!!!
12:01:56 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
Women are already united and have practiced mobilizing! It is not about women being right or wrong, or better than men. It is about creating attention, creating unity, and creating political clout. WE HAVE TO WIN. We need every idea!
Roger is saying, Let's be BOLD. We have no choice. But what better way than promoting nonviolence! UNITE. Then issue the DEMANDS!
12:02:41 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:
I am glad that Jim protested the nuke plant in New Hampshire. However, nuclear bomb proliferation is the dance with death that few speak about. This is the ultimate Hitler as it results in immediate death of billions quickly due to mistake or intention.
12:02:59 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
And the 7th Fire suggests that there is a time that ALL peoples join together, regardless of colour and creed
12:03:22 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
The colonial mind
12:03:36 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
RH: no problem being any role all vital not destroying society, in 2021 we have moral obligation, uniqueness of this moment, NECESSARY MORAL IMPERITAIVE TO GET INVOLVED NOW! Infinite threat absolute obligation to go into resistance, 1934 either in resistance or complicity, CIVIL RESISTANCE or WE ARE IN COMPLICITY, each future generation will see our part in this period of 3-4 years to determine the future of humanity, TOP WORLD SCIENTIST Human you must act all of global south will enter biggest shit show you can imagine! Each of us must act now!
12:03:48 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Yes, it is that dire! Thank you Roger for your tenacity 🙏🌎
12:04:53 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
JG: 6 month plan, urgently necessary, leadership structure, mobilize people, no more than 3-4 years, civili disobedience can have an effect in short period of time, historical residence, collective engagement, between now and 2022
12:05:08 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
We must call out the colonial mindedness that fuels the globalized supplychain and the racism within commodities delivery method.
12:05:16 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
NO COMPLICITY -- Civil Resistance is needed now. But lets unite first and implement a cohesive plan to SHOCK the WORLD.
And then go to the PODS of Humanity Rising and GRC!
12:06:28 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
An alignment of indigenous narratives that are directly related to mother earth and current times
12:06:37 From Shelly Alcorn to Everyone:
The video from Roger - https://youtu.be/f5B9AZ_YKlw
12:07:01 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
RH: breakout of culture of disempowerment, we are going to do it because we only have 3-4 years, people will rebel because the deadline is its own salvation, actuality of this mass realization providing psychic massive civil resistance, sense of emergency, how to translate this potentiality into historical terms, messenger to say to western world how this works at this point November 2021, aggregation of many best practices, key points, ongoing project of global collective intelligence
12:07:51 From Shelly Alcorn to Everyone:
Pivoting to the End Game - also from Roger - https://youtu.be/XEdXgB9urN0
12:08:36 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
https://www.facebook.com/ExtinctionRebellion/photos/pcb.678320089450769/678321069450671
12:08:39 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
We need a global action calendar that can be an aggregator of ideas that can unite strike actions on a global scale
12:08:41 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
Aida, look at history… Research Civil/non-violent resistance.
12:09:04 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
Let's coordinate those small actions Roger is calling for in Every Day Actions Globally
12:09:08 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:
it’s really interesting; seems like the people out in the field, healing the oceans and agricultural dynamics are on the front
12:11:25 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
You are Awesome Roger!!!🙌🌎❤️
12:11:44 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
Yes, Kevin -- a calendar is exactly right
12:12:03 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09
Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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12:12:24 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
RH: 1. start with a few people 2 things credible strategy and establish strategy coherent strategy and central decision making structure 2. ACT people hear it and then will go away 50% chance 1% people will do something, disrupt society in small group> prison 1-100 people> massively transgress their society>potentiality for recruitment for a second iteration> called to high level disobedience need to be fused with high level central mobilized management, national zoom call with each action so people see people are doing some thing and so many good practices in affinity groups. have mobilization group up and running with the action>but no mobilization system, pathways to action, show people the path to do something then action, mobilization, growing ever larger groups of mobilizations, maximize probabilities 3. have a demand ask for something that very right minded person is a good idea, frame a demand that is winnable, initially must be a rubbish small demand, critical moment of non linear takeoff,
12:12:33 From Stanley Pokras to Richard Buckley(Direct Message):
Thank you for setting me up!
12:12:40 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
This is Hundred Monkey Syndrome Effect!
12:13:08 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
INCREDIBLE!
12:13:16 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
Yes - Leadership and Grassroots - BOTH
12:13:23 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
RH: 1968, 1948, demonstration effect, 2012-Arab spring, critical mass people in Western democracy getting a concrete victory> in 1-2 years others join in maximizes options, no guarantee
12:13:25 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
Unify behind existing indigenous actions and examples of colonial mindedness oppression
12:13:42 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Here’s the Map, Everyone!
12:14:10 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
JG: highest probability of success, collective intelligence informed by Xperiences of last two years, aggregated for us to understand this fluid data driven moment
12:14:45 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
Global action aggregators can really accelerate actions beyond watersheds
12:15:00 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Kat, great you’re here today. Thank you for your contribution!
12:15:16 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:
Yes, a critical mass of mobilization for the end of climate change and the end of nuclear weapons. Together we are stronger via the urgent message of the Doomsday Clock and scientists globally.
12:15:53 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
More indigenous inclusion is an automatic NVDA
12:16:08 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:
Yes, thanks Kat for your synopsis notes.
12:16:19 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
SA: King’s college talk on you tube, civilization is finished a few years ago, Book: End of Protests, marches coopted by power structures, some events feel generic/predictable performative, allowed because nothing major will result How do we use breakthrough mentality? stop being coopted by system and create change we need while mobilizing
12:17:07 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
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THE MOST IMPORTANT ENVIRONMENTAL BOOK SINCE SILENT SPRING!!!
How Wealth Rules the World - the book:
CELDEF published a book that reveals the most important environmental and legal blockages to democracy and the rights of communities and nature by Ben G. Price "How Wealth Rules the World" It describes how the U.S. Supreme Court has been and still is what I call "a choir for the Theology of Property."
...addressing climate justice starts here!!!
-- Stan P
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12:17:26 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
In Canada there is a major ongoing action related to pipelines and there is a #shutdowncanada action that is currently happening
12:18:09 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
In Feb 2020 Indigenous action stopped the Canadian railway for 3 weeks
12:18:34 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:
A big problem: critical cards are not on the table for discussion: At the end of fiscal year 2021, there were 5,976 secrecy orders in effect for new inventions at the US patent office. Many of these inventions are energy related. (Not to mention free energy technologies sequestered by the US military.) At least $40 trillion is hidden in off-shore bank accounts that could be used for planetary regeneration and economic relief.
12:19:02 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Host and Panelists:
Roger on YouTube one month ago: https://youtu.be/CkZT0tSdUog
12:20:17 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
ow Wealth Rules the World – Ben G. Price
FREE Download - YES, Free!!! https://1lib.us/book/5673092/f422a3?id=5673092&secret=f422a3
12:21:27 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
RH: reformist context, from social science point of view, identifying some societies are intrinsically reformist , broadly OK in fundamental coherence, logic of reformism is main successful changes> reform, hundreds of episodes have brought it about, AND in structural disfunctionality with itself, strong academic argument from Xtreme inequality, dysfunctional ruling class headed for a massive fall min-outliar, max , societies must be structurally disrupted to make necessary change by 2030, only functionality in this moment of history must do too much in too short of time, reality understanding, IT’s F&%$ed! We are F&%$’ed without civil resistance now. must take undermining liberal reformist space, 2 oppositions-reformists and bad guys. NEED SCALED ACTION! incremental change is as disastrous as no action. in civili resistance or in complicity with evil with it or an appeaser, 1939 system flipped into total opposition of Hitler, NGO’s now are the problem, breakout from the climate movement, disfunctional
12:23:06 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
RH: propose civil resistance with deadline, moving past with small group to create high level civil resistance, KKK transformed civil rights into civil resistance culture, activists endlessly attracted to NGO paradigm, continued Existence depends on the speed at which we do this
12:23:13 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
The colonial mindset is hidden deeply in many of these problems
12:23:15 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Wow, Fantastic!
12:23:19 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Again, please! WHICH table are you insisting this action will bring whom you?
12:23:39 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Whom TO
12:24:01 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Right kicking ass!
12:24:12 From Jan Cafearo to Host and Panelists:
Thank you Roger, I am in the 1 per cent in this call who you reached. I’m in!!
12:24:22 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
with resistance
12:24:46 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Everyone from all walks of life
12:24:57 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
NOTE: This Chat and 300 others from both Humanity Rising and the AfterChat are available here: https://othernetworks.org/List_of_Humanity_Rising_Day_Pages
12:25:38 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
Please contact me to discuss the STRATEGY to mobilize via nonviolence. Thank you.
Andre Sheldon
Director, Global Strategy of Nonviolence Andre@GlobalStrategyofNonviolence.org
12:26:10 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
None of this is creative - it is all destruction. We need to regenerate the earth - that is not a one day effort. We need to start planing and strategizing how to regenerate watersheds. Joe Brewer / Earth Regenerators is actively doing that. We need to start healing NOW. Forget those who will not change their minds. Be active in healing NOW - THAT is a BIG job! Don’t waste energy in residence.
12:26:13 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Ask Pogo who the enemy is
12:26:14 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
Thanks to Richard Buckley, Jim and Humanity Rising for allowing the copy of the Chat.
12:26:15 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
RH: read history without sanitized glasses, messy/massive frictions/must be in order to innovate, not about being friends, get the F&%$ing job done, farmer/father not interested in the identity routine, normal people driven by absolute horror to transgress the movement they were in needed mobilization strategy, need guys in there for boring backroom for prophets to transgress then 2,000 go to prison then more show up in a prison, biggest enemy is the white moderate, biggest enemy are the NGO’s want to stop the civil resistance, build in communities civili resistance 70 hours a week!
12:27:01 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Exactly, no puff & fluff! This is the truthfulness we need to face!
12:27:21 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
Global general strike??
12:27:22 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Thank you Roger for your work
12:27:24 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
JG: aftermath of ultimate dress unless we radically change things around, analysis is deeply resonant with a certain truth, this moment of radical direct action and civili unrest until people demand a saving moment
12:27:26 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
I can’t copy Stan. I worked on my own computer to allow copy and paste in other venues, but it still doesn’t work here.
12:27:43 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
Connected to existing indigenous actions
12:28:16 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:
All this is still assuming that someone else will save us - WE are it!
12:28:23 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
jgarrison@ubiquityuniversity.org
12:28:33 From Harry Uvegi to Host and Panelists:
hu@brand.earth
12:28:35 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Yay, Jim!!!
12:28:35 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Cool! I’m in!
12:28:48 From Amanda Faulkner to Host and Panelists:
Global regeneration corps 💪🏻🌱
12:28:50 From Jen Forti to Everyone:
Will do
12:29:01 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:
Colonial mindedness is the root of all of these problems
12:29:08 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
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12:29:08 From Richard Page to Everyone:
@Kathryn, agree
12:29:19 From Roger Doudna to Host and Panelists:
roger.doudna@findhorn.cc
12:29:26 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:
When apartheid ends …. and it did, so Mandala said. When we turn this thing around- and we will!
12:29:41 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Thank you, for this amazing conversation
12:29:47 From Shelly Alcorn to Everyone:
That is indeed the proposition
12:29:48 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
And action
12:29:49 From Romy Birchler to Everyone:
I like to be connecte in the subject - please also but it on to FB so I can share it on my pages.
Romy.birchler@gmail.com
Greetings from Lake Zurich
Romy Bichler
12:29:55 From Andre Sheldon to Everyone:
BRAVO!!!
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