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Humanity Rising Day 310 Chat Page – Thursday September 9, 2021
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08:01:08 From Liliane Mavridara to Host and Panelists:
Happy Thursday Everyone!
08:03:03 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
Today is Day 310 were we look at Co-Creation as the path to Transformation of planetary society
08:04:33 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
Today is day 310 where we look at Co-Creation as the path to Transformation of planetary society.
08:11:32 From Liliane Mavridara to Host and Panelists:
Welcome back Lars and David, glad to have you start a new series!
08:11:55 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Greetings Jim, Lars, David and Everyone else! Blessings from the unceded land of the Secwepemc, Kamloops BC.
08:13:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Please include Everyone here in the chatbox so we can see what you say - the One We Are can talks OurSelf!
08:26:43 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
The Life Vessel is magical for Parkinson’s , eliminating symptoms without side effects, totally on-invasive.
08:27:15 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
Please, is it Roskilde Univeristy?
08:27:44 From David Somekh to Everyone:
Yes it is Roskilde
08:27:53 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
thanks
08:28:45 From David Stoney to Everyone:
Katheryn, Life Vessel???
08:28:59 From Lars Munter to Everyone:
Roskilde, on the island of Old Zealand… ;-)
08:29:59 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Yes it is a box designed to utilize frequency. You can Google it .There are a few in the US that I know about.
08:30:25 From Henry Lepler to Everyone:
We enter into conversation/communication with HUMILITY - realizing that we do not have all the answers individually and even within the group, the group itself may be emergent as well. We open as much as possible to what is seeking to emerge and to all voices.
08:33:04 From Davidson to Everyone:
Hello from Kenya, East Africa. What a blessing to be alive in this day and age and participate in regenerative co-creation. This is the essence of humans being created in the image of God, thus the opportunity and ability to work alongside Him in procreation and co-creation.
08:33:51 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Hello Davidson!! So nice to hVE YOU HERE.
08:35:44 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
have you here! LOL
08:35:45 From Henry Lepler to Everyone:
Yes, Davidson! And in re-creation as well. And co-creation as a face of recreation and vice versa.
08:35:49 From David Stoney to Everyone:
Thank you, Kathryn.
08:36:51 From Hilary Van Welter to Host and Panelists:
Cocreation needs very different selection processes for members, new project design and relationship nurturing so that the value of the different players is grown
08:37:30 From Hilary Van Welter to Host and Panelists:
It requires knowledge farming.
08:38:22 From Dehanna Rice to Host and Panelists:
Exactly, Louise, the model gets ALL involved in Healing & growth as Human Beings! Co-creative energy is infinite not finite!
08:42:24 From Dehanna Rice to Host and Panelists:
Question: Can you share a surprise during interaction with these Health Models that instinctively showed a vision of future environments for going to the Hospital or Doctors offices?
08:43:56 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
This is SO refreshing to hear!!! So much of medicine is skewed by the ‘professional’ approach!1
08:45:22 From Hilary Van Welter to Everyone:
Cocreation needs very different selection processes for members, new project design and relationship nurturing so that the value of the different players is grown
08:45:39 From Hilary Van Welter to Everyone:
It also requires knowledge farming
08:48:00 From David Somekh to Dehanna Rice, Host and Panelists:
Dehanna, if that question was from you, my response is unfortunately rather a long one! My most mischievous response is that I counsel citizen/patients, 'your health porfesional is a stressed individual justl ike you'. Why not aks them what kind of day they've had so far? Hope you see the point of that intervention
08:51:12 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
Richard, is it easiest for you to just send me the chat each day?
08:52:13 From Hilary Van Welter to Everyone:
Cocreation loves playful experimentation
08:53:26 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Very cool! Louise! It’s the bodies wisdom! Dance is the Spirit in Motion! Beautiful 😻
08:54:41 From Hilary Van Welter to Everyone:
Wonderful examples
08:55:16 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
What is being done to ameliorate the Traumas in the Health Care SystemWe know that people are getting stressed out having to deal with the effects of Covid/lockdown on themselves and a their lifestyles. Fears of resurgences, lockdowns, infections, loss of employment, etc. Stress causes immune deficiencies thus greater susceptibility to illnesses, accidents, and worse ~ suicides. The mental AND emotional health of ALL in our social system must be a priority.
There are several primary practices that are extremely effective in ameliorating all of this. Each only take 60-90 seconds and may be alternated or stick to the one’s that work for you… Roller Coaster Fingers, Trauma Tapping Technique, Karate Kid Koncentration Technique, Switching, and PeaceMaker Meditation to name a few. They are each valuable and easy to apply to everyday life. It can be instructed online Zoom style trainings. Contact me if this interests you. You may also like to share your expertise with the Peace Lab via OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab
08:55:56 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Yes, David, the question is mine…the “unknown is infused with surprises”, right?
08:56:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
None of us is truly “enough”, though that’s not what the meme counsels. Co-creation is the reality of humanity’s design. Each of us is specifically designed through our DNA and our life experiences to be what is needed wherever we are, doing whatever we’re doing. How are you perfect for the situation you’re in? What do you know that others need to know? Perhaps you are “here” to witness; perhaps to make change…
08:56:20 From Aida to Everyone:
this helps me see that I need and want to honor my experiential expertise AND to understand that power dynamics are in lay when what I share is variously received
08:57:35 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Yes! Shannon!
09:04:23 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:
@Louise, How can communication heal? @Larz, Please elaborate on your work with LEGO Play.
09:06:43 From Lars Munter to Everyone:
Well, Larry, LEGO Serious Play as a concept is of course a great tool for co-creation, but also for enabling a different style of story-telling and addressing myths.
09:07:44 From Joy Gilfilen to Everyone:
The challenge is that the original pre-assumptions of any conversation is that 'the system' establishes the context, and their context is contrarian to start with. It is like writing white papers...one of the presumption at its base is that we have to build our basis based on the old knowledge and old people's thinking. And that is contrarian in its roots. If I am innovating in a new field, I cannot innovate within the constraints of the past.
09:07:56 From Lars Munter to Everyone:
The concept uses “traditional” LEGO pieces to allow groups build scenarios or situations, but since they think in a more playful manner, they get to engage a more intuitive part of their brain.
09:09:24 From Lars Munter to Everyone:
LEGO Serious Play is especially good to allow the group to learn new things about themselves - in a different way than eg roleplaying, but with some of the same benefits.
09:09:25 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Joy, yes, you cannot solve the problem from the same mind-set that created it. A new foundation is needed.
09:10:34 From Joy Gilfilen to Everyone:
Logical sequence thinking is impossible to create new thought when you dissect the parts, and create the polarities.
09:10:51 From Lars Munter to Everyone:
The case I told about was actually a more traditional “building & design” process - but by using LEGOs the designers perhaps also allowed themselves to not think inside the blox. Sorry, box.
09:12:08 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:
Tak,, Lars!
09:12:35 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
This is the value of oracles - new knowledge and processes divined from a different Source than our learned experience and current knowledge.
09:13:47 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:
@Shannon, that refers to the practice of Noetics. www.Noetic.org
09:13:52 From Lars Munter to Everyone:
Selv tak, Larry.
09:15:31 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Yes, Larry.
09:15:34 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Absolutely, Louise, learning is such an array of differences! The shape takes place from the Parts of the Whole!
09:16:42 From Joy Gilfilen to Everyone:
We forget that health care professionals of the past are held into boxes by rules of the game, and the rules of the institutions to allow them to work with people. It is often based on fear of losing a life, fear of doing it wrong. We spend the time protecting ourselves from harm. It is a really interesting conundrum. That is why the new health world of the future is going to be about empowering the people at the bottom to take charge of their own health and their own instinctive learning. Mutual learning is critical.
09:17:54 From Pamela Ashley to Host and Panelists:
Wonderful Louise thank you.
09:18:05 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Hear-hear @ Joy! The Eastern model of Preventative care!
09:18:42 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Everyone can move Somatically!
09:19:03 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
It’s called “freelance” dancing
09:20:05 From Henry Lepler to Everyone:
Freelance dance! I like that Dehanna
09:20:16 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
New courses coming up starting next week on Regeneration: Foundations of Regeneration and the Practice of Stewarding Life
09:20:33 From Lars Munter to Everyone:
With a dance class, Jim?
09:21:04 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
Absolutely
09:21:10 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
::https://drive.google.com/file/d/1xwxXbv7nQwe48f6k8NLXl3Xjb-sY6kQH/view::
09:21:20 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:
Everyone can dance. Life is a Dance! ::https://www.facebook.com/jilissa.cotten/videos/973170583257255::
09:21:54 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
Introduction to Regenerative Development: ::https://drive.google.com/file/d/1P0ThpFNNIzJb2-olrpyUCMA9B1OMVuXf/view::
09:22:26 From Joy Gilfilen to Everyone:
The definition of public health needs to be redefined...as being public vitality. What is the measure of vital force in the community - how much natural enthusiasm exists. When everything is about controlling logically from the expert down using consultants, it doesn't work. People live within the boxes we create.
09:22:48 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
If you want to dance, please check out Banafsheh Sayyad, master dancer:::https://banafsheh.org::
09:23:27 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Aho, Joy. Public vitality is hugely important to be acknowledged and enhanced.
09:25:42 From Aida to Everyone:
thinking about Kaiser, some of this approach is tis tiring a box in my experience. Like taking the word “thrive” and making it more of a brand—not really inviting patients to explore what thrive means to them
09:25:55 From Aida to Everyone:
thanks ticking a box
09:26:18 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:
Providing the basics, including health care, is the challenge for Humanity
09:26:20 From Pamela Ashley to Everyone:
This has been outstanding I Have deep gratitude for your work.Thank you.
09:28:06 From Joy Gilfilen to Everyone:
YES! Measure DANCE vibration as a measure of living.
09:28:20 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Sounds good to me, Jim! The question is “When did you stop dancing?”
09:28:33 From Olga Elizarova to Host and Panelists:
And using the word health not healthcare
09:28:39 From Jen Kelly Nature Beings to Everyone:
Love the dancing!!!😊
09:28:54 From Aida to Everyone:
Shannon, you remind me of Angeles Arrien
09:28:59 From Jean Stevens to Host and Panelists:
Dance is very healing that is why in Africa, in spite of their poverty, some are the happiest people.
09:29:03 From Olga Elizarova to Everyone:
And using the word health not healthcare
09:29:03 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thank you!
09:30:07 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Achieving our own agency IS how we thrive!
09:30:40 From Louise Jane Phillips to Host and Panelists:
In Denmark many health authorities have introduced a program in which "art (eg creative writing, visual arts and dance)" is given on "prescription".
09:30:40 From Henry Lepler to Everyone:
Co-Creation is definitely a dance - as we re-create ourselves and our world.
09:30:58 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Come to the AfterChat:
09:30:58 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:
Meditation and yoga with dance plus swimming are all my healing choices. I will share with a friend whom has Parkinson’s, thank you!
09:31:00 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
.oOo..
You can join the After Chat here:
::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::
Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
09:31:09 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Joy I LOVE public vitality!
09:32:22 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Why would we want to avoid rejoining the Infinite?
09:32:25 From Louise Jane Phillips to Host and Panelists:
If anyone can manage to get to Denmark, we're organising a conference on "Arts-based co-creation in Parkinson dance and research" in which we will present the results of our research and open up for dialogue with the experiences and knowledge of the conference participants. The conference is free.
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