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Humanity Rising Day 301 After Chat – Wednesday July 28, 2021
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00:01:23 Kat Haber: BRILLIANT ACTIVISM! SPEAK UP WITH JOY, JOY!
00:01:57 Rain Jewel Marin: SO BRILLIANT ! I am on fire in my soul for Good from your presentation, thank you so much !!! <3
00:02:37 Kat Haber: Is there any community that is doing justice/mental health well @Joy?
00:03:33 Rain Jewel Marin: We are composting the BS! ;)
00:08:42 Davidson - KENYA: Joy, more often religious zeal is characterised by dogmatic rigidity. This is a cocoon I am breaking out of.
00:09:39 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: Oh I see. Then, how do I translate "sustainable utopianism financed with negative interest loans" into "white-boomer-speak"?
00:12:28 Kat Haber: Aliut leader Kuyyux describes this as an upside down world. Love the idea of flipping this script
00:12:35 Stanley Pokras: Joy was just pointing to the Ubuntu project: ::https://othernetworks.org/Ubuntu_Planet::
00:12:49 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: OK THNAKS JOY!!!
00:15:31 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: Do you rather have pandemic ridden dystopian poverty and lack of technology to be happy and free forever instead of sustainable utopianism financed with negative interest loans pioneering the technology to be happy and free forever? Too much eh?
00:16:45 Stanley Pokras: ::https://othernetworks.org/Doctrine_Of_Discovery:: This is the reference page we’re collecting about this mindset.
00:17:12 Leo Jacoby: ::http://www.antiatom.org/english/world_conference/peacewave.html::
The 2021 World Conference against A and H Bombs starts on Monday, August 2.
See attached file for schedule and links
00:17:13 Rain Jewel Marin: Q: to what extent do we need to “define the probe” (eg “stop dehumanisation”) … in order to find the new vocabulary - the new concept - to unfurl a new vision? …
00:17:20 Shannon McArthur: Global Drum Circle for Mother Earth and Water - ::https://www.facebook.com/groups/3845612615551059::
00:17:27 Rain Jewel Marin: *problem (not probe) …^
00:17:49 Rain Jewel Marin: Q: to what extent do we need to “define the problem” (eg “stop dehumanisation”) … in order to find the new vocabulary - the new concept - to unfurl a new vision? …
00:18:47 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: You say the problem is us, whatever that means, the problem is short sighted ideology that ignores reality and technological possibilities where, ironically enough, new world ideological values adjusted to 21st century capabilities are dismissed. eg sustainable utopianism financed with negative interest loans.
00:19:14 Rain Jewel Marin: Another example (how to “reframe” the language / terminology … ) would be “gender based violence” …
00:20:47 Marilyn Schramm: who develops & adopts the dominant ideology, Sébastien? WE the people
00:21:05 Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net: Greetings from the ancestral land of the Tongva. I’m a global citizen serving a regenerative society and life on our planet; I am one of the founders of the Peace Lab; and am a polymath, philosopher, explorer, alchemist for love, and pragmatic futurist. Since the 70s, I have led programs on 5 continents for elite athletes/coaches, corporations, and educational institutions; have taught in the ghettos of Los Angeles for 40+ years, and was on a hijacked airplane, which all led to offering of stress management programs at the UN and Oxford U. Medical School. I’ve helped present or promote the Pachamama.org Alliance/Drawdown programs and have written the Best-Selling series, Winning Ways for Living, produced numerous Peace Lab programs for the Humanity Rising: Global Solutions Summit (they’ve done over 290 in about a years time).
Together in collaboration and dialogue, we get to prompt the world back into thriving for ALL.
K. A. Krueger
SuccessSystemsInternational@gmail.com
OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab
00:23:39 Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net: We’re All Doing Time, Bo Lozoff’s incredible book
00:24:11 Stanley Pokras: Thomas just used the term “collective puberty” to describe the status of humanity.
00:24:24 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: No marylin,,your leaders perpetuate a life ruining ideology of ignoring reality until we croak imposed by the controllers who follow old world ideology that you've been brainwashed with.
00:24:50 Shannon McArthur: Marilyn, Patty, Anahata - please consider opening your mic to speak to Joy.
00:25:14 Shannon McArthur: Eric, Jen, Rain, Kat, Leo… would you like to have a word with Joy?
00:25:28 Marilyn Schramm: I agree with Thomas 100%. I refer to it as collective adolescence.
00:26:06 Leo Jacoby: Shannon, thank you for coaxing our participation.
00:27:58 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: Revisit the past to understand the present to shape the best future. Anybody have better ideas than sustainable utopianism financed with negative interest loans?
00:29:13 Marilyn Schramm: correct, those who want the GIANT GREAT LEAP lose sight of the next steps that could help move things forward
00:30:21 Rain Jewel Marin: @Shannon - thank you, I am good to listen… I appreciate the space and the opportunity… deeply grateful. I think my biggest question is/was, how do we “name” / define, in order to “understand” the query/prob, to then find the best possible solution/transformation … it feels like such a delicate art of vocabulary … and thus, consciousness
00:31:44 Marilyn Schramm: Sébastien, obviously no one could have a better idea than you.
00:33:23 Leo Jacoby: Superb presentation and modeling local activism.
Slide: picture of young people around the table = your journey from Mom to Philosopher by listening to your children and their peers, then interviews and inviting grassroots folk to participate.
Religion (at least its prophetic voices) can be an ally in telling a new story -- songs, stories, and visuals in social media, yes!
00:33:55 Marilyn Schramm: Joy, you are magnificent. keep up the good work! Love & Peace to all!
00:33:58 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: LOL. Thanks Marilyn.
00:34:51 Leo Jacoby: Intercourse has more than one meaning.
00:35:39 Stanley Pokras: Yay global orgasim!!!!
00:36:53 Rain Jewel Marin: “Civil domestic intercourse” - phenomenal concept !
00:37:01 Shannon McArthur: ::https://www.facebook.com/groups/3845612615551059::
00:38:00 Stanley Pokras: The global drum circle - Thanks, Shannan
00:38:55 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: Godbless fktrdism. I pray we snap out of it and want the sustainable utopianism financed with negative interest loans that we want with or without "sexy innuendos" 🦄💖
00:39:38 Kat Haber: What a digital government might look like from Finland which is already living it. : ::https://www.ted.com/talks/anna_piperal_what_a_digital_government_looks_like/transcript?language=en::
00:39:58 Leo Jacoby: hOMEe not bOMb < Nancy
00:41:13 Nancy: YES, OM’s in H-OM’es and no more b-om-bs!
00:41:18 Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net: IJoy, ’d love to have the PPT.
00:41:29 Shannon McArthur: Thanks, Nancy
00:42:22 Kat Haber: Joy is a dot connector…How might connectors be more fully resourced? Thanks, Jen!
00:43:42 Kat Haber: Yes, what is it that we are enslaved to?
00:44:18 Shannon McArthur: Joy, 2nding Kurt’s request - would love access to your PPT
00:44:34 Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net: I get to go off in a few with our nuclear family.
00:44:34 Kat Haber: Investment> siege gear to protect a castle-In-Vest-Ments…
00:45:06 Rain Jewel Marin: Real magic IS scary ! LOL
00:45:41 Kat Haber: MAGIC-real, raw, radical>>>mystery schools flipped female to male now in process of reversing again…
00:45:45 Leo Jacoby: Shannon had recommended in HR chat that Joy do a UU course. Hear Here!
00:46:03 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: ENCEPHALOMAGNETIVITY TO UNIVERSE AND THEN UNIVERSE TO INFLUENCED MAGICALITIES ;)
00:46:19 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: LOL BRB
00:47:11 Jen Forti: And if the longest journey a human takes is from their mind to their heart how do we help speed up that process?
00:47:31 Nancy: Kat, why ‘buy into’ being ‘enslaved or a slave’ and why not ‘buy into’ being NOT FREE and desiring to be MORE FREE and using Free-will choice to CHOOSE “MORE FREEDOM’! Why want MORE ‘enslavement’? WORDS MATTER. Speak into what we WANT, NOT into what be do NOT WANT. Want o be BLESSED with more slavery?
00:47:53 Jen Forti: Through song? Stories? Words? Via social media? Radio? Podcasts?
00:48:24 Jen Forti: Eric needs to be on Joy talk!
00:49:27 Kat Haber: Time keeps on skipping…::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wb9By-lODgk::
00:50:07 Thomas Perret: I will leave you. Thanks for important conversation.
00:50:21 Leo Jacoby: The mistaken notion that "discovered" lands were "empty" has a parallel errpr that future time (ie. the next seven generations) is also empty and therefore void of our responsibility.
00:50:39 Leo Jacoby: error
00:52:23 Rain Jewel Marin: very important conversation, it feels. Thanks to everyone. (Ps @sabastion where were we flying over? Exciting movement)
00:53:29 Stanley Pokras: Thank you Anahata! Yesterday, our AfterChat was blessed with a beautiful video
Anahata Pomeroy: I want to share a new 8 minute animation film on healing from the ancient Hawaiians/Tahitians: Kapaemahu is now online. I so respect how it WAS before all this MIND we have added to humanity.
Kapaemahu
00:54:44 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: Still not enough energy for your corpus callosum by not having absolute anti-catabolic pharmaceutical grade nutrient biochemical intake of protein, carbs, fats, fiber, vitamins, minerals, metals and phytonutrients.
00:55:43 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: Haha rain, you like my virtual background.
00:55:49 Kat Haber: Love to use this tool regarding trauma…as I have noticing trauma of family members is seeping into my life…
00:57:03 Jen Forti: I’ll share it on the Bellagram platforms!
00:59:00 Kat Haber: WEAVER app
01:01:18 Rain Jewel Marin: “Pre-Eve” needs to be addressed upfront I think
01:03:00 Leo Jacoby: Theologians are reinterpreting Genesis from a dominaiton code to stewardship and a caring ethic developed by feminist and ecological thinkers.
01:04:19 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: ::https://sine.network/::
01:05:13 Leo Jacoby: 1966 essay by Lynn White has been influenetial. ::https://history.sfsu.edu/sites/default/files/EPF/2015/2011_Emily%20Warde.pdf::
01:05:14 Leo Jacoby: ::https://humanities.exeter.ac.uk/theology/research/projects/beyondstewardship/blame/::
01:05:16 Stanley Pokras: ::https://othernetworks.org/Anne_Baring::
01:06:46 Stanley Pokras: Jon Ramer is the coordinator of the SINE network: ::https://othernetworks.org/SINE_(Synergized_Impact_Network_Exchange)::
01:06:47 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.jstor.org/stable/3984627:: Genesis Revisited: Murian Musings on the Lynn White, Jr. Debate
J. Baird Callicott
01:07:33 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: Do you think they'll ever be able to get over race, gender, socioeconomic status and theosophical opinions in order to be able to embrace the reality of beyond and all of existence to finally be able to focus on utopianism financed with negative interest loans so we can have the gene therapy to be 20 years old again and get rid of this pandemic? 🦄💖
01:07:40 Nancy: Nancy’s email: NancyWorldPeace@gmail.com
01:08:16 Eric Thompson: The ancient root stories that were changed to suit the more recent arbiters of reality under the patriarchy, from which we inherited the current bible, are available to discover and see how the original Eve mother stories were changed to denigrate and demote the Blessed Mother.
01:08:17 Leo Jacoby: A new sheriff in town!
01:10:50 Rain Jewel Marin: @Jen, thank you for that input…. so creative and inclusive!
01:12:21 Leo Jacoby: Local action has planetary outcomes.
01:12:43 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: ::https://www.sustainable.org/economy/small-business/217-balle-business-alliance-for-local-living-economies::
01:13:00 Kat Haber: BALLE: Business Alliance for Local Living Economies
01:13:06 Stanley Pokras: Business alliance for local living economies.
01:14:11 Leo Jacoby: Stanley: local banking
01:16:54 Rain Jewel Marin: Economic resonance …
01:17:07 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: ::https://joinseeds.earth/::
01:17:10 Leo Jacoby: ::https://othernetworks.org/index.php?search=David+Pinto&title=Special%3ASearch&go=Go::
01:18:29 Rain Jewel Marin: helpfulness…. The dawning of the age !
01:18:58 Leo Jacoby: Another call for a song: "This is the Age of Helpfulness"
01:19:02 Rain Jewel Marin: Profoundly loving…. What a gift
01:20:57 Kat Haber: inferiority.
subservience.
weakness.
inability.
following.
submission.
surrender.
yielding.
01:21:31 Kat Haber: Yes word origin!
01:21:32 Sébastien Roussel-Konan: DOM - SUB LOL I MADE A FKTRD
01:22:36 Kat Haber: Birthing of a child…Aliut tells us women must now birth a new world and create from our wombs…>
01:23:00 Rain Jewel Marin: <3…
01:23:34 Kat Haber: find opposite words for positive, finer future
01:23:52 Kat Haber: Fully fed
01:24:08 Rain Jewel Marin: Satiate with nurture.
01:24:17 Kat Haber: nourished
01:24:51 Kat Haber: ECONOMOLOGY: economy respecting a balanced ecology
01:25:11 Kat Haber: Yes, gracious gratitudes-all!
01:25:44 Eric Thompson: Am signing off now, blessing to all, and try growing your own wheat grass and nurture yourself with this vitality!!
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