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Humanity Rising Day 247 After Chat   –   Thursday May 13, 2021

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Chat from AfterChat Zoom from HR Day 247:

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00:06:26    Stanley Pokras:    New here? Send me your email address to receive the daily reports that include links to Humanity Rising chats and this recording and chat.

00:07:47    Jacob Sabat:    As long as there is an I, a me, a self, or a so-called True or Higher Self, there is no Love…none whatsoever. There is only what thought imagines it to be, which is a limitation and imitation.

00:07:54    marciaraffstudio:    I’m so happy your papa heard your talk about him!

00:09:02    Jacob Sabat:    Total Freedom NOW!: The end of fear, anxiety, and suffering. Free Online Event. (NYC time)

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00:09:39    Jacob Sabat:    Are you actually Love in daily life?

00:09:55    Jacob Sabat:    See your self.

00:10:11    Lesley Southwick-Trask:    Thanks Jacob - I will check this out

00:10:13    Jacob Sabat:    See what the self is doing to you.

00:10:16    Stanley Pokras:    New here? Send me your email address to receive the daily reports that include links to Humanity Rising chats and this recording and chat.

00:10:46    Jacob Sabat:    The self is creating so much havoc in the world.

00:11:33    Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net:    Some more love for you.

00:12:16    marciaraffstudio:    ?

00:12:53    marciaraffstudio:    “”””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””””\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\]][‘=

00:12:53    marciaraffstudio:    =[

00:13:42    Shannon McArthur:    Marcia? You ok?

00:14:23    Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net:    Todays meditation

00:14:50    Richard Page:    Bob, please repeat the name of your New Zealand mentor. Ray Bradbury?

00:15:34    diana:    Dr. Raymond Bradley

00:16:48    Leo Jacoby:    Some morning thoughts:

We love in the particular.

Universal love is God's business.

God who creates us in the particular;

God who redeems us by the particular;

and sends the Spirit to gather

all we particulars into one beloved,

loved unconditionally, universally.

Can you or I love unconditionally?

Once we experience being loved

unconditionally, the spirit's doing,

we can simply emulate loving

unconditionally, the spirit's bidding.

A shortfall is knowing I am limited;

death around the corner.

Death conquered is knowing

my limitations are part of my particularity;

I am loved in the particular, a story

with a beginning, a middle, and an end.

So loved I tell my story;

s-i-l-e-n-t  I  l-i-s-t-e-n to your story.

Our stories are gathered up

in the saga we call humanity.

00:16:56    Alecia:    because we look for love outside of us, when its inside,we are always the source of everything in our life, not anyone else

00:17:27    David Beatty:    How about re-programming that death is something to be afraid of?

00:17:42    Jacob Sabat:    Do we see, with all of our being, the fact that the me, the self, the ego, and the so-called True or Higher Self, which are different fragments of the I, is the very movement of fear?

00:18:30    Jacob Sabat:    Do we see, with all of our being, the fact that all beliefs, philosophies, ideologies, experiences, identifications to a group, nation, ethnicity, race, etc act like a filter, which limits, shapes, and colors all our perceptions?

00:19:22    Jacob Sabat:    Re-programming is still programming.

00:19:53    Jacob Sabat:    The I says it will reprogram the I. See the futility of this.

00:20:36    Shannon McArthur:    but Jacob, you can’t run on automatic if yyou  don’t have a  program. A human being cannot handle the complexity of life without programming - choose & use your own program is all that is being suggested here

00:22:11    Jacob Sabat:    Do we see, with all of our being, the fact that beliefs, philosophies, ideologies, experiences, identifications to a group, nation, ethnicity, race, etc. invent the illusion of division and separation from everyone and everything, which leads inevitably to conflict, violence, and suffering?

00:22:22    Jacob Sabat:    Beliefs damage the mind.

00:22:58    Jacob Sabat:    Beliefs prevent Pure Perceptions..

00:24:07    Jacob Sabat:    Do we see, with all of our being, the fact that beliefs, philosophies, ideologies, experiences, identifications to a group, nation, ethnicity, race, etc act like an inner tyrant that tells the brain/body what to think, how to feel, and what to do?

00:24:22    Jacob Sabat:    Love is not a choice.

00:25:42    Jacob Sabat:    The me, the self, the ego, and the so-called True or Higher Self, which are different fragments of the I, is the program.

00:27:43    Jacob Sabat:    You are not a Spiritual person yet.

00:29:11    Jacob Sabat:    The complete and utter end of the illusion of the I, the me, the self, the so-called True or Higher Self, which is an illusion invented by the past conditioning of the brain, is the beginning of Spirit, Soul, Heart, Love for the very first time, in each and every moment of daily life. Once and for all, now and forever.

00:29:12    Davidson ~ Kenya:    Yes @Jacob Sabat, it is socialization which shapes belief, taboos which shape the cultural psyche of a people. We are faced with reality of negative ethnicity right here in Africa

00:31:19    Shannon McArthur:    Dear Bruce, thank you for coming; I have to go… it was lovely to speak to you. I anticipate more uplifting conversations in the future.

00:31:43    Davidson ~ Kenya:    Thank you, Shannon

00:32:10    Shannon McArthur:    Blessings, Davidson, and to  all… see you again soon.

00:33:35    Jacob Sabat:    The complete and utter end of all that makes up Bruce is the beginning of Love, for the very first time, in each and every moment of daily life. Once and for all, now and forever.

00:34:34    Davidson ~ Kenya:    Recently I learnt a new concept called HAPPY FOR NO REASON:)

00:35:42    Jacob Sabat:    Bruce is the illusion of division and separation, which breeds fear, anxiety, sorrow, confusion, loneliness, and all mental afflictions. Do you see this fact with all of your being?

00:36:40    Stanley Pokras:    So Jacob, what do you think of yourself?

00:40:52    Jacob Sabat:    Before Enlightenment, all action is the movement of thought as the thinker. After Enlightenment, all actions the movement of Wisdom/Inner Silent Space (Pure Perceiving without the perceiver from moment to moment).

00:41:03    Jacob Sabat:    There is no Jacob.

00:41:06    David Stoney:    The notion of participation is a good way to think about the cooperative actions necessary for life/existence.  Our very bodily existence depends on a crescendo of participation including the atomic, the molecular, the cellular, the organ, and the organismic levels.  Our participation in fact goes far beyond the bodily level.  Here on earth we participate with the living earth and its ecosystems.  (This is not going very well right now.)   At the solar system level our existence and evolution depend on the participation of the planets with each other and the Sun.  In addition, we participate at the cosmic level as co-creators with universal creativity (Source, Oneness), and this is the level where very deep peace can be found.

00:41:26    Lesley Southwick-Trask:    Jacob - All of what we observe is an illusion. My beliefs allow me to experience his views as his perceptions of the world. I do not feel  /see division or separation. I perceive a fractal worthy of exploration.

00:43:22    Jacob Sabat:    Me, me, me. That is your entire life. See the self.

00:44:21    Lesley Southwick-Trask:    Another  interesting illusion

00:44:32    Alecia:    interdependency

00:45:49    Stanley Pokras:    I think that the imbalance (or need) is a essence of curiosity and thus consciousness.

00:46:12    Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net:    Jacob, who says: We, We, ME, ME ME? "THE WORLD IS AS YOU SEE IT!" ~ VASISTHA's last instructions to Rama before Rama went to take over his kingdom. From the book, Vasistha’s Yoga

00:47:16    Jacob Sabat:    Nobody. Nothingness. It is who we truly are.

00:47:43    Jacob Sabat:    The me, the self, the ego, and the so-called True or Higher Self, which are different fragments of the I, is an escape from this fact.

00:50:11    Jacob Sabat:    That is just an idea. Are you actually Living it?

00:51:42    Jacob Sabat:    There is no Love.

00:52:21    Jacob Sabat:    This is an irrefutable observable fact.

00:54:35    Kersti Ahven:    WOW! Thank you ALL for this after chat via Colombia where I retired to, now spinning more in balance  after living in Chicago, Santa Fe, Central coast California - born in Germany of Estonian refugee parents and was a  Peace Corps Volunteer in 1970 Brazil and  Peace Corps staff 2001 in Cabo Verde Africa...still trying to connect a humanity that lost its ONENESS way long before COVID...

00:56:07    Jacob Sabat:    Where there is an I, a me, a self, a so-called True or Higher Self, there is no Love…none whatsoever.

00:56:30    David Stoney:    I wonder if the notion that there is something wrong with the world is just ego?  Oh, I forgot! God put us in charge.  Hmmm, maybe it’s time to let go of that God?

00:56:37    Jacob Sabat:    None of you are aware of the self.

00:56:39    Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net:    IMAGINE:

You are thriving in the future. Everyone experiences Peace in Everything and Everything with Peace.

You are the last elder alive who ever experienced anything other than peace, “How did we get to have Peace in Everything and Everything with Peace?”

What is the answer given?

The more the detail, in as many areas of living, provides the path forward from these primitive times.

See OtherNetworks.org?Peace_Lab for possibly adding your contribution for the future of a thriving life.

Connect directly with Kurt via ~ SuccessSystemsInternational@gmail.com

00:57:05    Jacob Sabat:    There is no Peace. This is an irrefutable observable fact.

00:57:41    Jacob Sabat:    Be with what is rather abstractions invented by thought.

00:58:11    Jacob Sabat:    The me, the self, the ego, and the so-called True or Higher Self, which are different fragments of the I, is deceiving you all the time.

00:59:10    Jacob Sabat:    You are living in a virtual reality bubble called “my life”. See the danger now.

01:01:06    Jacob Sabat:    There are multiple holocausts being perpetrated by the USA right now all over the world.

01:01:19    Jacob Sabat:    "Creating a Wonderful World. (let's get it done already)" From the cities to the states to the nation to the world. ::https://www.facebook.com/groups/379816208803429::

01:01:38    marciaraffstudio:    Yes, Frank, what about then?

01:02:55    Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net:    Here's one of the PRIMARY PREVENTIONS for so many issues of our time.

Start early ~ PARENTING is awesomely effective. Read and apply: Nurturing with Love and Wisdom, Disciplining with Peace and Respect: Mindful Parenting, by Diane Tillman. Have the Living Values practices taught is schools… For inspiration listen to this: ::https://youtu.be/nBCJhNiKhFE::

The Living Values Education Program: The first two Values instructed are Love and Peace.  All the other Values are generated from these.

Developing quality Character traits is vitally important for all levels of society. When will WE emphasize this?

01:03:09    Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net:    There is one program, ::http://LivingValues.net:: that has over 90% reduction in violence in a Thai Refugee Camp within 2 years! The woman who developed it then went to Johannesburg, RSA and designed a program for street people - similar results!

We can then evolve even further by meditating to the source of thoughts, Consciousness.

What will you do with this information?

01:03:11    Jacob Sabat:    We must replace the current batch of public servants with the most Loving/most Wise among us.

01:03:35    Jacob Sabat:    No, they are not Love.

01:04:22    Jacob Sabat:    They are not Totally Free of fear, anxiety, suffering, confusion, loneliness, addiction, envy, greed, jealousy, vanity, hatred, violence, bias, and prejudice, in daily life, once and for all, now forever.

01:05:50    Jacob Sabat:    Dear Bruce: Be honest. Are you Totally Free fear, anxiety, suffering, confusion, loneliness, addiction, envy, greed, jealousy, vanity, hatred, violence, bias, and prejudice, in daily life, once and for all, now forever?

01:06:24    Jacob Sabat:    The USA is terrorist nation #1 in the world today.

01:06:42    Jacob Sabat:    There is no Peace.

01:06:57    Jacob Sabat:    You are a bundle of mental afflictions.

01:07:00    Leo Jacoby:    The poor will always be with us -- thank goodness! We have much to learn from whom we call poor. I am the poor one until I identify with and participate in justice with "the poor."

01:07:49    Jacob Sabat:    Be with the facts.

01:08:09    Jacob Sabat:    Ideas and ideals are escape from what is...the isness...the fact, the act, the actual...what is actually taking place from moment to moment in daily life.

01:09:28    Jacob Sabat:    The brain is already programmed. The brain needs Total Freedom.

01:10:02    Leo Jacoby:    "No peace without justice; no justice without love."

01:10:19    David Stoney:    Great program today, Lesley & Kurt.  Thanks!!!

01:12:35    Leo Jacoby:    "Comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable"

01:13:11    Richard Page:    UI creed: comfort the afflicted and afflict the comfortable

01:13:50    Richard Page:    UU creed

01:14:02    Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net:    Your so welcome, happy to have done it. :) Thanks for your support.

01:15:35    Leo Jacoby:    When I am loved I am no longer just me, I am connected with the one who loves me.

01:20:06    marciaraffstudio:    bye all.  Loved hearing Bruce!

01:20:37    Leo Jacoby:    Thanks to new persons in Afterchat today who were silent participants-- don't underestimate the power of listening.

01:20:38    Monika Kaniewska:    Thanks so much for a wonderful evening! Big gratitude and love xxx

01:23:39    Leo Jacoby:    Survival of the cooperatists -- ecology1

01:24:38    Leo Jacoby:    Integral ecology < Laudato si, Pope Francis

01:25:38    Leo Jacoby:    Climate crisis and social justice entwined.

01:30:23    Leo Jacoby:    Knowledge is Power (Francis Bacon?) Wisdom is power-less; as love is gift not domination.

01:30:45    Alecia:    take a breath dude and be more loving

01:31:12    Leo Jacoby:    Amore

01:32:43    Bob Whitehouse:    Wish I could stay but have to leave.  BobWhitehouse@gmail.com, author of forthcoming Divine Design Unfolding Now---Humankind at the Turn, in Crisis, With Reason to Hope based on the toroidal field of love from which we came and are starting to wake up to the need to realize and actualize oneness that connects us all...

01:32:44    Alecia:    Kurt will you lead your peace meditation, I think we need it

01:34:43    Leo Jacoby:    The passion of Greta Thunburg who speaks in gentler but resolute voice.

01:35:56    Leo Jacoby:    When I am loved the separation dissolves.

01:38:44    Leo Jacoby:    My hard heart softens. Create in me a clean heart.

01:38:57    Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net:    Infinite Potential

David Bohm’s documentary

Implicate Order, the Bonding ONENESS of All Wholeness. This film scientifically supports the Metaphysical experiences and teaching of the Mystics of all ages.

The Observer and the Observed.  This verifies the ancient teaching, "THE WORLD IS AS YOU SEE IT!" ~ VASISTHA's last instructions to Rama before Rama went to take over his kingdom. From the book, Vasistha’s Yoga

We are Co-Producers of life/experiences. Everyone is In-Formation. How do we choose to decide to inter-act with the Earth, with Each Other?

See what you think/feel… ::https://youtu.be/_WFV1AXydXk::

Unity is also the second of The Four Sacred Gifts, a great book by an elder, Anita Sanchez.

Lots of Love,

Kurt

01:41:39    Leo Jacoby:    "If you're just a spirit, what does chocolate taste like?" < Bruce

01:42:21    Leo Jacoby:    Incarnational theology is a fancy name for this.

01:45:35    Leo Jacoby:    Until I am loved there is no love.

01:46:14    Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net:    “No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate they can learn to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” ~ Nelson Mandela

01:47:47    Leo Jacoby:    Earlier this week... even the perinatal matrices starts our programming.

01:56:55    Karen Sperling:    Listening is the key to Love

01:57:14    Leo Jacoby:    Thank you Karen!

01:58:43    Leo Jacoby:    Yesterday someone note LISTEN and SILENT are anagrams - same letters.

02:00:57    Leo Jacoby:    The anagram was offered in the HR program this week on humming.

02:05:10    Leo Jacoby:    ...May 11

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