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Carlos Prosser to Panelists and Attendees (11:06 AM)
Another day to thank the existence of Humanity Rising Summit. Love and joy for everyone
What a privilege today to hear such extraordinary beings, many thanks, life is wonderfull
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (11:11 AM)
Thank you so much, Jim, for your dedication related to our local struggles in Minneapolis — and their global shiftings. And the domination is indeed what Chauvin (chauvinist) was teaching the recruits and my neighbors who sought to intervene. Even yesterday, it felt like I was witnessing another callous abuse of power as the defense attorney blamed everyone else for Chauvin’s actions. Not only did he speak in ways to promote the suffering of those who tried to stop the killing, he seemed totally insensitive to the human needs of the jury and everyone else in the courtroom as he pressed their attention way past their typical lunch hour/break time.
It was as though he too was taking his opportunity to shimmy his knee into their necks while the world watched. Punitive expecting impunity.
Gard Jameson to Panelists and Attendees (11:11 AM)
This is the future! Thank goodness!
Carlos Prosser to Panelists and Attendees (11:11 AM)
partnership is the way, we can joint cooperation,and team work
Gareth Manning to Panelists and Attendees (11:13 AM)
I’m reading it now — utterly fascinating and so important.
Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:14 AM)
Today is Humanity Rising Day 230... and the last time Joseph Jaworski and Riane Eisler appeared together on Humanity Rising they declared their interest in working together. We may see some of the results from that partnership today.
They appeared together on Day 131.
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:15 AM)
please remember to include Attendees in this box (I forgot!)(again!)) THANKS, STANLEY!!
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (11:18 AM)
The “irrational” love that we have for family members can be reinforced and expanded beyond our intimate circles… Eisler’s work is so important now!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:19 AM)
Irrational = unconditional ?right, Amy?
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (11:20 AM)
Love beyond reason
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (11:24 AM)
Finland also is at the summit of quality of education internationally.
Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:24 AM)
I think that people in our era believe in the divine right of the weapon makers to rule over the economies of their perspective societies.
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:26 AM)
Protective Value Set = male, Resilient Value Set = Feminine
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (11:29 AM)
Wisdom practice as a core competency
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:32 AM)
Observe Observe Observe - 3x because if you don’t know what is true, everything is skewed.
Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:37 AM)
Brian Arthur's story is recapped in the book "Complexity" by Mitchell Waldrop. It's the story of the Santa Fe Institute.
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (11:39 AM)
When we believe (consciously or not) that we are bad people, it is easier to decide that OTHERS are also bad... and to find solace in scape-goating...particularly anyone who is OTHER. An over-simplified root of racism and the drive for supremacy (?)
Gard Jameson to Panelists and Attendees (11:40 AM)
How does one tap into that Deeper Place of Knowledge?
Gareth Manning to Panelists and Attendees (11:40 AM)
Yes!
Anne-MarieDesai to Panelists and Attendees (11:40 AM)
the question about scaling is key. Thank you Jim :)
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (11:41 AM)
globally scalable transformation that goes to the heart of the human predicament....
Socratic dialogue!
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:44 AM)
Question: so much good work has been done with the larger oil companies, yet they still are not shifting to support life - why?
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:45 AM)
imho, Kathryn, the gov’t keeps giving them money - why would they change?
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:46 AM)
I think money is the excuse - not the reason.
Getting the whole system in the room is key!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:47 AM)
that’s a bloody big room, Kathryn! ;)
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (11:48 AM)
it’s sad that Biden hasn’t stopped the Standing Rock pipeline that was already found to be operating illegally since last year; already six leaks I read.
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:48 AM)
sad barely covers it…
Gareth Manning to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)
Canada yesterday passed child care funding for parents after a 50 year fight :)
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)
I think one of the reasons they don't change is fear. They are scared to let go of what they know and scared to try something they don't know so - fear from both sides (letting go as well as starting a new way)
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)
yay Canada!
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)
Indoctrination in schools too often teach kids they’re losers in a winner take all economy
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)
See the campaign of Earth Justice to send a letter requesting change for the pipeline
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)
thx Kala
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)
That's AMAZING Gareth!! Change IS happening - little step by little step
Anne-MarieDesai to Panelists and Attendees (11:51 AM)
it is common sense (when we are awake though)
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (11:51 AM)
Water Protectors at the northern MN construction of Enbridge Line 3 are facing the same police abuse as shown by Derek Chauvin and the other state sanctioned dominators
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:51 AM)
Diane - yes, that’s closer to the truth, I think.
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (11:52 AM)
Yes — and our intimate relationships are our source of happiness, what really matters
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:52 AM)
that’s MOM!!
watch for the guidance of MOM and you will find your best way forward…
Ann Waters Waters to Panelists and Attendees (11:53 AM)
The intuition is a guide for the wisdom and mind to work together- create from union
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:53 AM)
Synchronicity - MOM xxx
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:54 AM)
Moments of Magic!! (Just a reminder xxx)
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)
Divine Miracles by another name but that’s no fun.
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)
Synchronicity feels like living in the higher frequency of omniscience, reality and truth for good
Gard Jameson to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)
Synchronicity, Synergy, Serendipity... The path to the future...
Gareth Manning to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)
It sounds FASCINATING
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:56 AM)
When the hand of the Divine guides you, say, “Thanks MOM!”
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:56 AM)
Commitment. To Truth!! then it all slips into place!! sounds like a fantasy? sounds pretty great to me hahaha. Magic again
Alecia Caine to Panelists and Attendees (11:56 AM)
Its Radical Brilliance. Living in Flow leads to manifestation
Chiara MEGIGHIAN to Panelists and Attendees (11:56 AM)
Can you access source (synchronicity) when you have open mind, open heart and open will?
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:56 AM)
Indeed
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (11:57 AM)
Harmonic resonance of truth and reality calling integrity forward
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:57 AM)
Think so. yes. I think you even become source - seeing as there is only one piece of energy and it's all of us. Tune in...…..
Alecia Caine to Panelists and Attendees (11:58 AM)
Chiara, its law of attraction, raise your frequency and attract synchronicity
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (11:58 AM)
We need to tune into the wisdom of the toddler, too!
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (11:58 AM)
Awake!
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (11:58 AM)
When I was two years old I talked but did not walk yet...and often asked my mother to do / get things for me... After a point she would say "the Lord helps them who help themselves" and I rejected that construct--whomever the LORD was, it would not make sense to waste resources of those who could help themselves. I was thiry two years old when I began working to stop really really BAD programs and policies on radioactive waste...and we would start on an initiative and THEN magic would show up...unseen forces would change the game... and I finally told my mom (she had passed) that she was right.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:58 AM)
Toddler, yes. Be like a child!!
Chiara MEGIGHIAN to Panelists and Attendees (11:59 AM)
@Alecia YES
Alecia Caine to Panelists and Attendees (11:59 AM)
I tune into the trees, animals. Today was Pea Horsely Conversations with Animals. I will listen later...
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:59 AM)
how do we woo MOM?
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:59 AM)
Mary - what a great story!
Alecia Caine to Panelists and Attendees (12:00 PM)
Shannon, see magic everywhere and magic appears
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:00 PM)
Mary, I salute your work!
Gareth Manning to Panelists and Attendees (12:01 PM)
The social wealth index is great!
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:01 PM)
What was that economic index mentioned?
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:01 PM)
Amazing story Mary. (A dentist said the same to me...……… Weird hahaha - another story)
Gary Piazzon to Panelists and Attendees (12:02 PM)
Fear is the mind killer and fuel for authoritarianism
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:02 PM)
YES - Gary!
David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees (12:03 PM)
Dear Riane Eisler, I am enjoying your book Nurturing our Humanity. We are a species whose evolution was tied, for millions of years, to the earth’s cycling climate. Now for the first time ever we have blocked that cycling and there is not going to be another ice age, the natural limiter of excessive populations. Psychologically, this is new, unexpected, anxiety-producing territory for us. Do you think that widespread change can happen as long as so many of us are so anxious?
Fear is the key
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:04 PM)
Yes - David - ways of removing or at least dampening fear is key to any change.
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:05 PM)
Hello, Lesley!
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:05 PM)
YAY Lesley!
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:05 PM)
We have to develop a herd mentality of groundedness, not the startle of fear. We all look for guidance to others reactions.
Alecia Caine to Panelists and Attendees (12:05 PM)
Change will happen regardless, its who will survive the change.
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (12:07 PM)
Generon International....
Caroline Ward to Panelists and Attendees (12:07 PM)
First Nations cave drawings in Australia shows images of human beings without mouths and with two very big eyes.
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:08 PM)
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Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)
Music and DANCE are deep-time methods of transforming anxiety into usable energy, focus and empowerment...
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)
The Meditative state of mind, with enough people BEING the Force of peace causes peace to generate more rapidly the experience of Peace in a vaster area/group. The GOOD VIBES ARE FELT and manifest in more Peace. Look at TM’s research proves…
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)
Generon focuses on the most subtle territory of leadership: How an institution can continuously shape its destiny. We focus on enabling groups to forecast and ... ::https://www.generoninternational.com/::
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:09 PM)
Here’s a 12 minute video on a PeaceMaker Meditation handout. Groups are forming together or through teleconference to bring more Peace to the Planet. Here's a Meditation practice that can greatly help. ::https://lnkd.in/gvxWsc9.m::. Peace with Everything, Everything with Peace will reverberate throughout your day… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and ‘others.’
Gareth Manning to Panelists and Attendees (12:11 PM)
Curious to hear thoughts on feminizing police forces…
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:11 PM)
And the antidote to fear is LOVE!!
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)
A woman police officer shot Duante Wright last week.
Gareth Manning to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)
Great question….
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)
And the new system - Citizen's Assemblies. We have radical disruption already. It's whether we grab the chance to use it or - go back to 'normal'!
Gary Piazzon to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)
Radical disruption or velvet revolution Yes! Moving from the head to the heart yes! Embracing uncertainty - knowing, accepting & trusting the non-linear universe is the challenge for many folks
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)
Oh, Canada! let’s sing it!
Gary Piazzon to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)
Canada rocking it!
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:14 PM)
Major forward movement
David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)
Go Canada. Thanks for setting such a good example so close to the United States. Maybe some of us will pay attention
Alecia Caine to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)
Its about being comfortable with not knowing
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)
U can do it with the The VISION for the Peace LAB ~ Peace in Everything, Everything with Peace.
When you have any ideas that could bring peace in any manner, anywhere, anytime, please apply it and then share it ~ with us too… Peace LAB: ::https://OtherNetworks.org/peace_lab::
Gard Jameson to Panelists and Attendees (12:17 PM)
Divine Love casts at all Fear... How to access that Love??? That is the leverage point...
Prophetic Voice through listening!
Can you play the part of the female. Lao Tzu
Gareth Manning to Panelists and Attendees (12:17 PM)
Lesley, please run for Ontario premier :)
Gary Piazzon to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)
DaVinci took the same approach= observations from at least 3 perspectives
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)
When we take some responsibility for being the Peace where we are, we are then models for others to follow ~ the ripples begin with us!
Together we fly more easily ~ like the two wings of a bird… :) The Peace LAB practices/programs dramatically reduces violence, recidivism, and wars… We get what we focus upon. Let's share our ideas and expertise.
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)
That is Sooo brilliant to have the policy makers experience the suffering needing change at a peer relationship!
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:18 PM)
I think Lesley is talking about emergence...
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:19 PM)
Peace LAB
LABoratory ~ experiments, investigates, researches, and explorations, and some emergent design … ALSO
LAByrinth ~ one winding, irregular, peaceful path in and out!
“Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect." ~Chief Seattle
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:19 PM)
Brilliant!
Jen Forti to Panelists and Attendees (12:20 PM)
Beautiful Leslie! And I love your hair!!!
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:20 PM)
Thank you for your continuing inspiration, Leslie!
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)
Recognizing is often enough, analysis may not be needed.
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)
Lesley, and ya all - Knocking it outa the ballpark.
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:22 PM)
Washington has also banned private prisons!
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (12:22 PM)
Putting the children first - the future- their well-being - key and awesome! Thank you Canada!
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:23 PM)
Riane -I think that a caring economy requires a great deal of respect for each other and those in our care. Respect is a key!
Gard Jameson to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
Teamwork, T, Respect, R, Unity of Purpose, U, Service with compassion, S, Transparency, T
TRUST is at the heart of the shift! Of Institutions and Individuals
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
Great question Riane! seeking the answer.
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)
yes, Gard. I agree.
Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (12:27 PM)
Lesley, I was tickled to read your chat comments in earlier HRs, and today, in the Easter season, live and glorious! Alleluia!
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:27 PM)
Aha... Let's put a whole bunch of right wing political commentators through a U training!
Chiara MEGIGHIAN to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
@Gard also could be Transparency, Relationship, Understanding, Shared Success, Truth Telling
Gareth Manning to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
I’ve seen this happen with kids. Spend five days in the desert or the mountains without phones and they become so much happier and more open.
Chiara MEGIGHIAN to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
John Milton and the Way of Nature
Gard Jameson to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
Yes Chiara! TRUST....
Anne-MarieDesai to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
beginner’s mind allows us to receive
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
YES Chairia!!! Bud Wilson too.
Gard Jameson to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
Circles of TRUST, Parker Palmer and Quakers
Gary Piazzon to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
“In Nature man returns to faith and reason.” RW Emerson
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
Not blind trust...
Gard Jameson to Panelists and Attendees (12:31 PM)
Vulnerable, Compassionate TRUST
David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees (12:31 PM)
In dealing with deep seated fear, is it necessary at or near the beginning for the individual to consider how one feels about their own death?
Anne-MarieDesai to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)
our numbness too
Gareth Manning to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)
Including neurodiversity :)
Jen Forti to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)
Can someone share a link to more info on U Labs?
Gard Jameson to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)
Compassion leads to Wisdom, the place of Knowing, Synchronicty, Synergy, and Serendipity...
Gareth Manning to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)
This is cool. Not about the lab per se, though ::https://thesystemsthinker.com/connecting-to-source-the-u-process/#:~:text=The%20U%2DProcess%2C%20developed%20over,capacities%20and%20the%20right%20conditions::.
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)
Jen - the book, U Theory
Jen Forti to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)
Thanks Kathryn ;)
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)
Satsang ~ Always keeping the company of the Seekers of Truth!
Julie Wolf to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)
becasue I forgot to dsent to every one... I repeat.
My valuable informative fear was not minded yet. I am still broke.
Anne-MarieDesai to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)
yes Lesley
Jen Forti to Panelists and Attendees (12:35 PM)
I wasn’t sure if there was an online group that was engaging in these practices
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:35 PM)
1% Meditating dramatically influences life
Julie Wolf to Panelists and Attendees (12:35 PM)
^mined
Gareth Manning to Panelists and Attendees (12:35 PM)
Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (12:36 PM)
Hidde's comments recall my introduction to ScienceZ presented in the Ecovillage Summit last week and still available thru Thursday 1PM ET
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:36 PM)
Jen - one can be started. I was in one that was 30 years old.
Gary Piazzon to Panelists and Attendees (12:37 PM)
Aren’t the rise of citizen assemblies an example of this process?
Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (12:37 PM)
April 19-22 noon Replay of Ecovillage Summit ::https://summit2021.ecovillage.org/schedule/?utm_source=GEN+Email+List&utm_campaign=9fbf15bafd-2021-Summit-Day-11-REPLAY:: 40 experts and ecovillagers speaking in the lineup. All talks will be online until Thursday, 22 April at noon CDT
Gareth Manning to Panelists and Attendees (12:38 PM)
This was truly fascinating and extremely inspiring. You’re all very beautiful humans. Thanks so much. :)
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:39 PM)
it's a wake-up call
Lesley Southwick-Trask to Panelists and Attendees (12:39 PM)
Thanks so much my friends!! Love you!
Gard Jameson to Panelists and Attendees (12:39 PM)
Thank you ALL🙏🏼
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:39 PM)
Slaying the Separation Demon interviewe by Dr. Fred on this podcast called Welcome To Humanity. It was a provocative discussion for these days and I think you’ll enjoy it! The Oligarchs are using DivIde and Conquer to continue to rule us all I'd truly love your feedback.
Dr. Fred found that simple word usage and especially the commercial media, Separate us. This enables us to be divided and stimulates fears and thus be more 'controlled' to an amazing degree. It was a really fun, and profound discussion.
Why do blessings abound when You're around?
Love,
Kurt Krueger
OR from another great resource for much inspiration - the above link with be there too.
Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees (12:40 PM)
Yes, I am often at odds, fragmented, within my so-called self
Caroline Ward to Panelists and Attendees (12:40 PM)
Some synchronicity… here in Sydney I couldn’t sleep and checked my phone and saw this reminder at 1am… now nearly 3am and a perfect conversation for our current inquiry here in Australia at the moment… thanks so much everyone
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:41 PM)
Please come and further dialogue with the “CHATters” in the AfterChat group. :)
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:41 PM)
YAY Caroline!
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (12:41 PM)
Central Intelligence Report 2021
Beautifully said Jim!!
Anne-MarieDesai to Panelists and Attendees (12:46 PM)
Amen Jim
Alecia Caine to Panelists and Attendees (12:46 PM)
there are no coincidences
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (12:47 PM)
What can Be!
Gareth Manning to Panelists and Attendees (12:47 PM)
So well said — Jim’s amazing! Much love to you all. :)
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:47 PM)
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Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:47 PM)
Thank you Everyone!
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:47 PM)
Muchos Gracias. THANKS. MEDITATE!
Beverly Parsons to Panelists and Attendees (12:48 PM)
Thanks so much!!
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (12:48 PM)
Yes!! Thank you!
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:48 PM)
The other question is where does consciousness need to be change the most
Paolo Morley-Fletcher to Panelists and Attendees (12:48 PM)
Thank you for such a great session - Would love to contribute in the U-process experiment over next months
Anne-MarieDesai to Panelists and Attendees (12:48 PM)
thank you all soooooo much. Brilliant.
Gary Piazzon to Panelists and Attendees (12:48 PM)
fantastic stuff again. HR Yes!
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (12:48 PM)
Thank you!
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