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Humanity Rising Day 219 Chat Page – Monday April 5, 2021
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Liliane Mavridara to Everyone (11:01 AM)
Happy Monday Everyone!
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:01 AM)
You too, Liliane 🙏🙌❤️
Carlos Prosser to Panelists and Attendees (11:03 AM)
Hi everyone. Love and courage for this week when we will have the chance to feel the emergence of a new human being
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:04 AM)
Blessed day; the Masculine Rises, hallelujah!! God(dess) bless us all. Please change this chatbox to include Attendees so we can chat together about what equity means, etc…
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:09 AM)
Oh Jim - what an insight! Shouts for help and instead they are being blamed. thank you!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:10 AM)
without Joseph, Jesus would not have been born. Mary would have been killed. He married Her and supported Her.
aho
Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:12 AM)
Yes, men CAN share the planet with other creatures. This is an important learning!
Robin Geller to Panelists and Attendees (11:12 AM)
Hear Ye
ChangJi (DDMBA) to Panelists and Attendees (11:12 AM)
yes yes Jim! Gender equality and not just women or feminine issues!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:12 AM)
I like your name Lion Goodman
Carlos Prosser to Panelists and Attendees (11:13 AM)
There is already a new masculinity in consolidation, a practical vision of impeccable equality with women and total openness to diversity. A new type of man full of his heterosexual virility, happy with all the advantages that came from abandoning the patriarchal and macho logic. I was fortunate to be born into a home of equality and to be part of the generation that undertook the journey of no return to equality. Proud and amazed to be a man
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:14 AM)
YAY Carlos P!!!
ChangJi (DDMBA) to Panelists and Attendees (11:15 AM)
Yes Carlos! It is not either/or men or women. But men and women in harmony
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:15 AM)
for yourselves!
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:15 AM)
ourselves AND the planet
ChangJi (DDMBA) to Panelists and Attendees (11:16 AM)
humanity rising when men and women are in sync and harmony
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:16 AM)
we are all stronger when we develop and support ourselves first, with others in consideration.
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:16 AM)
It takes a home, Carlos, to bring all genders into the world w/ equanimity-wisdom-empathy❤️🙏🙌
Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees (11:17 AM)
All creatures! Yes.
Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:17 AM)
I would like future panels on this topic include women (one will due) who recognize how women can help and encourage the men in their lives to be the ideal that we aspire to be.
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:18 AM)
tribeofmen.com
Michael Lipson - EVRYMAN to Panelists and Attendees (11:19 AM)
1!!!
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (11:19 AM)
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Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees (11:19 AM)
1
Steve Tennant to Panelists and Attendees (11:19 AM)
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Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:20 AM)
Mother’s relationship w/ Sons are so important in launching them into the 🌎
Bill Kraus to Panelists and Attendees (11:20 AM)
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AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (11:22 AM)
prayers for Minneapolis welcome...join in at 8am daily Central
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (11:23 AM)
I’m recalling in Australian Aboriginal communities and culture, there were always men’s groups and men’s initiations and women’s groups and women’s initiation to keep the whole culture in integrity. The Brits who came there found them profoundly gentle as a people.
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:23 AM)
thank you for your work, Keith.
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:23 AM)
Question: What is the key male impulse/lesson/passage that unleashes empathy towards self when guilt/anger/violence towards others take’s over?
Michael Lipson - EVRYMAN to Panelists and Attendees (11:25 AM)
A: slowing down, and feeling what your body is saying… and then connecting from that place… If you feel guilt or anger or violence then really feel it, and share that’s your feeling… that decharges it. Avoiding it doesn’t
this allows you to decharge and not act it out
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:27 AM)
G’day, Michael. Good to have you speak with us today.
Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:28 AM)
It occurs to me to wonder how the men's movement represented here thinks about those men who see their gender identity differently.
Lynnea Franks to Panelists and Attendees (11:28 AM)
As just said to the panellists, after thirty years of working in the women’s movement and with the advancement of women’s leadership, I am loving this - it is so time!!
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:29 AM)
I am with you Lynnea!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:29 AM)
me too.
pleasure/passion/purpose… stepping up!
Steve Tennant to Panelists and Attendees (11:30 AM)
@Stanley - that would be a great webinar, what is a man? Is it anyone who identifies as a man or with the masculine?
mary thorp to Panelists and Attendees (11:32 AM)
We are all HUMAN! Sometimes I want to through out woman / man & just deal with HUMAN>
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:32 AM)
Okay, yea, @ Michael,slowing down, your breath especially,(Coherent Breathing-5 per minute) so good for brain/heart/lungs, which I’ve taught to trauma victims globally, but some people couldn’t breath slowly because of the trauma...what can you do to reach those? The men that escalate to Rage & Violence, these shooters Jim mentioned?
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:32 AM)
hi Steve; welcome
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:34 AM)
Maybe it’s not about men and women, but about being authentic…?
Michael Lipson - EVRYMAN to Panelists and Attendees (11:34 AM)
We at EVRYMAN offer our work to anyone who IDENTIFIES as a man.
Andrew C. to Panelists and Attendees (11:35 AM)
I have participated in men’s groups since 1990 after being imbedded in the Manhattan women’s movement in the early 70s. I’d like to see an evolutionary next iteration in the form of a men’s and women’s movement perhaps informed by Riane Eisler’s Partnership Way.
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:35 AM)
Brilliant Andrew
David Pinto to Panelists and Attendees (11:36 AM)
be the person I would like my children to be
nice
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:37 AM)
Love that, be the person kids emulate by action!
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (11:39 AM)
LET’S FINJD MORE SOLUTIONS FOR PEACE ON THE PLANET:
How can we accelerate the evolution of our cultural systems? What is the unexplored belief or assumption that when explored opens the door to inclusive peace?
Your expertise is needed by the planet and her people. You could participate in any branch of the Peace LAB or simply BE the force for Peace through your actions. Check out ::https://othernetworks.org/Peace_LAB::.
Groups are forming together or at the same time through teleconference to bring more Peace to the Planet. Here's a Meditation practice that can greatly help. ::https://lnkd.in/gvxWsc9.m:: 12 minutes. Peace with Everything, Everything with Peace will reverberate throughout your day… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and others.
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (11:39 AM)
Here’s a prelude to what the Peace LAB produced ~ via a media mode, and their’s so many more ways to bring peace. A Humanity Rising Prelude to the Peace LAB week with Lovely Lady Lesley: ::https://youtu.be/hEttZALd1O0::
If you have any questions, contact me through: SuccessSystemsInternational.net
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:39 AM)
we cannot be free until all are free
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:41 AM)
Cool, Steve! Great work & insight
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:43 AM)
Wow!! Thank you Steve - tuned in just in time to hear you use the word 'Responsibility'! Thank you!! Important!!
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:43 AM)
Yes, Sergio, it is a cultural shock.
Jen Forti to Panelists and Attendees (11:43 AM)
I can totally relate Sergio
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:45 AM)
A soft and spiritual guy!! Lovely!! Still Italian passion maybe (fire - yes). Brill
Jen Forti to Panelists and Attendees (11:45 AM)
I’m originally from Italy and am still trying to rid myself of the anger and impatience that rubbed off on me from my Italian father
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:45 AM)
to hear a man speak of his ‘inner fire’ is huge, imho. There is so little acknowledgement of it in humanity, and yet it is so important - vital, indeed.
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:46 AM)
Great, trajectory Sergio, love the take on Italy being “Heart Centered”...US being empty.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:46 AM)
Wonderful lessons to share Sergio
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (11:47 AM)
I’m a feminist since the 60’si & lovie hearing about the Tribe of Men’s point of view. This is all very healing towards bridging the male & female dynamics.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:47 AM)
Soft but strong - for everyone!!
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)
Question: What is the panels take on the younger male generation’s differences to be present w/ themselves, women, & society?
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)
The jigsaw - every last piece is necessary!! Brilliant!!
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:50 AM)
Brilliant question!!
rajinder to Panelists and Attendees (11:50 AM)
what about hormones... like testosterone
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (11:51 AM)
“No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background, or his religion. People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate they can learn to love, for love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite.” ~ Nelson Mandela
mary thorp to Panelists and Attendees (11:51 AM)
First we have to distinguish what each of those is before we can know what to do with it/them.
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:52 AM)
Perfect Kurt!
rajinder to Panelists and Attendees (11:52 AM)
what I like the idea of a man tribe and the women tribe... it’s so often about releasing wounds and the journey to healing as a human beyond the gender.
the human tribe ...
Diane Sue to Panelists and Attendees (11:52 AM)
I need to leave now, but will definitely watch the recording of the rest of this informative discussion. Thank you to Jim and all of the men on the panel who are so in tune with themselves and where we need to go. Gratitude and best wishes to all of you!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:53 AM)
Diane Sue, we’ll watch for you… bless you as you go forward in your day.
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:53 AM)
Rajinder, Yes! It is about beyond gender!
Lynnea Franks to Panelists and Attendees (11:54 AM)
We women can be totally in our matriarchal power too. We have to be in harmony with men. Here in the UK I would like to believe we don’t have the racism and prejudices as the US, albeit our British Empire history is appalling and responsible for much of the damage in the world.
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (11:54 AM)
~ Jim Morrison ~ ”The most important kind of freedom is to be who you really are. You trade in your reality for a role. You give up your ability to feel, and in exchange put on a mask.”
THANKS FOR BEING YOU!
Michael Lipson - EVRYMAN to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)
well said sergio! totally agree - it can feel like a battle or a balancing act….
rajinder to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)
happy healing everyone.. thank you all. happy Easter resurrection into the new
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)
Absolutely, self regulation & self sooth is cortex action, no.
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:56 AM)
community is how it’s done.
Lynnea Franks to Panelists and Attendees (11:56 AM)
To quote Germaine Greer many years ago, the opposite of Patriarchy is not Matriarchy but Fraternity
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (11:56 AM)
Here's one of the PRIMARY PREVENTIONS for so many issues of our time.
Start early ~ PARENTING is awesomely effective. Read and apply: Nurturing with Love and Wisdom, Disciplining with Peace and Respect: Mindful Parenting, by Diane Tillman. Have the Living Values practices taught is schools… For inspiration listen to this: ::https://youtu.be/nBCJhNiKhFE::
mary thorp to Panelists and Attendees (11:56 AM)
If we didn't have "patriarchy" or "matriarchy" what would we call the "system" we've been operating from?
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (11:57 AM)
now you can have robots to replace men to do the heavy labor
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:57 AM)
Mary, money.
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (11:58 AM)
how do we train/educate/raise our young generation to embrace the male/female equality?
mary thorp to Panelists and Attendees (11:58 AM)
Shannon: Hmmm. What might others say?
Dominance / heirarchal / ?
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (11:59 AM)
how do we - females learn to understand men?
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:59 AM)
listen
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (11:59 AM)
I can connect with other females based on some common experiences
Shannon: listen? first they have to open up and speak
first we all have to face ourselves
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (12:00 PM)
Question: Why is it, societal’s take, “Male ego” & “Women’s intuition”, in describing the genders? Are the lines blurring?
C B to Panelists and Attendees (12:02 PM)
Be willing to OBSERVE with open compassion to truly HEAR what's being communicated beyond first glance, and preconceived ideas. And to anticipate and time into VALUE being transmitted.
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:02 PM)
I came too late to this session, but I appreciate all the panelists to be speaking out in the "open" about their feelings
that takes courage
C B to Panelists and Attendees (12:02 PM)
Balance of honoring All in all. Allowance in alliance. Open, receptive, responsive to More.
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:03 PM)
C B - love this: Allowance in alliance.
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:03 PM)
I am hopeful for the new generation to embrace a different way to connect with each other and we,the current generation can serve as a good example
C B to Panelists and Attendees (12:03 PM)
Yes! REMAIN IN CURIOSITY!!!
Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees (12:04 PM)
Fascinating that ‘challenge work’ is a quintessential practice here! Homeopathic remedy?
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:04 PM)
But it requires communication between males and females to learn to understand each other
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:04 PM)
no ‘but’ about it!
C B to Panelists and Attendees (12:04 PM)
@Shannon: Yes, as well as Alliance in Allowance.
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:05 PM)
how can I relate to mens' thinking and feeling... rhetoric question
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:05 PM)
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Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)
we are unique even within the same sex :)
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)
thank you Stan; I look forward to the AfterChat today, and to hearing men speak to this issue. I do so love you…
C B to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)
@Veronica: For me personally it means releasing the projections of what's entangled in concepts of "men" & "women". Honoring value of what all bring as individuals, and collective. The gift each offers.
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)
not all women understand each other :)
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)
It is about respecting our diversity not "equality"
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (12:07 PM)
We’re all snowflakes & yet made of the same substance...
Michael Lipson - EVRYMAN to Panelists and Attendees (12:07 PM)
A Q i like to ask leaders (and everybody) is “imagine being 90 and looking back at this moment. What will you say was a life well lived? how does that apply to/affect your decision in the moment…?”
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)
we need to understand why we need to feel that we are powerful
Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)
I would like to know more about the challenge Groups. Thanks.
Carlos Prosser to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)
What makes us equal is not our condition as men or women, it is our condition as human beings, which also includes sexual diversity. We are the same for being human
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)
many relationships have issues with power struggle
power struggle is associated with the ego
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)
Gosh!! We all have baggage and - communication (listening especially) and sharing is how to let it go - communally! Loving this conversation!! Gosh, we're on the brink of a whole new world (it seems) xxx
Michael Lipson - EVRYMAN to Panelists and Attendees (12:09 PM)
we call them callenge and support groups. We meet 1 or twice/mo, a few hrs. We check in and then share whatever we’re workign on - in a safe space, self facilitated buy the attendees… along w/some ground rules to promote safety nd flow
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)
Bonding!! Yaaay!!
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)
we need to heal with each other for each other and for a peaceful future.
Ina Albert to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)
Ina Albert: Do any of you do relationship counseling? How does that differ if at all?
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:11 PM)
And then you can step out from the tribe and help others!! Wow!! Wonderful!!
Lion Goodman to Panelists and Attendees (12:11 PM)
www.TribeOfMen.com
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)
Impressive!!! Totally!!
Michael Lipson - EVRYMAN to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)
relationships - some diff and lots the same. a major diff is bringing is attachment theory, bonding patterns, and the “program” running between partners…. Thos in truth this affects one person anyhow they interact w.the rest of the world…
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)
How would you differentiate between the mankind project and the tribe?
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)
thank you for doing the work you do in the world, and inside yourselves.
KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)
I so appreciate this information - will suggest to my partner and bro-n-law both of whom are amazing men and I feel this could support them living their purpose.
Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)
Thanks for adressing the challenge Groups.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)
And a taster group to start!! (encourage)
KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)
Thank you for your transparent and deep shares. So appreciate each of you.
Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)
Who coordinates the enneagram group, please?
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)
self assessment, no matter how honest, could still miss some issues one is dealing with
Steve Tennant to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)
@liliane - Mankind is a larger, more worldwide, older organization. Several Tribesmen have come from Mankind and we have a lot of respect for what they do. To me, the Tribe focuses more on consciousness and transformation.
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)
we are looking at self through our own filters
Michael Lipson - EVRYMAN to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)
MKP vs Tribe -tough to answer but my biased view is Trieb is more collaborative and challenges guys to “lean into” their stuff more - particularly via initiation challenges. MKP has a broader, greater community to tap into. Less transformative
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)
illusions vs truths
Steve Tennant to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)
@Richard - Enneagram information is here. ::https://www.tribeofmen.com/cta-1/:: Cal Simone is the facilitator
Leo Jacoby to Panelists and Attendees (12:17 PM)
Sergio mentioned the culture shock in moving from Italy to U.S. Do some cultures, including indigenous ones, nurture human development more integrally so that remedial (?) self-work is not so needed?
Sergio Baroni to Panelists and Attendees (12:17 PM)
Self assessment is just one part of the process, there is also a lot guidance to deal with ones shadow
mary thorp to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)
Nature tries every combination when you look at it as a whole.
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)
aho, Jim. Yes.
Michael Lipson - EVRYMAN to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)
@ Leo - absolutely - very diff in diff cultures and traditions… Global westernization is homogenizing that somewhat IMO
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)
@Steve, thank you. I remember 10-11 yrs ago, in the local (BayArea) conversations about the two groups, it was mentioned that the tribe was/had more spiritual/consciousness focus.
I had friends from both groups
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:19 PM)
Possibly another blessing from the gift of the pandemic - the chance to examine and re-assess what it means to be a human being. We need groups like this so - great session - thank you all
Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees (12:20 PM)
I would like to step up to a challenge like the one you describe. I am a woman though. Your way of challenging seems so fruitful.
Lion Goodman to Panelists and Attendees (12:20 PM)
www.Evryman.com
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)
Yes Michael!
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)
But, isn’t these gender differences becoming more mainstream threatening to a huge , right-wing, swathes of the US! And, some getting violent
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)
thank you, Michael - WELL DONE, Lion!!
mary thorp to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)
And, how do we do this all together for those of us who are further along with this inquiry
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)
Ha? Lion...good for you!❤️
mary thorp to Panelists and Attendees (12:21 PM)
There's that "winning" stuff again.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:22 PM)
Funny - was gonna ask - are women welcome to visit and see how it goes? You manage it - brilliant!! Well done!!
Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees (12:22 PM)
yes, Mary. My thought too.
Tiffany Stone to Panelists and Attendees (12:22 PM)
“You can stretch yourself with more safety”—-I like his
Steve Tennant to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)
@diane - the monthly calls have women and men, depending on the topic. Enneagram tomorrow (Tues) is open to women.
Jeannet Weurman to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)
Thank you, Michael. This is such a wonderful discussion. As a woman, I realise I do myself differently when there are men present. All of this is so complex. Thank you.
mary thorp to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)
Thank you, Sergio.
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:24 PM)
Have you experimented with engaging with groups like the Promise Keepers? I would think there would be some common ground…
Steve Tennant to Panelists and Attendees (12:24 PM)
Challenge Groups are typically not open to women - and I share you curiosity of what would happen if they were.
Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees (12:24 PM)
@Mary, yup! That’s what I meant by ‘challenge’ perhaps being a homeopathic remedy
mary thorp to Panelists and Attendees (12:24 PM)
I'm thinking about the purpose of meetings or gatherings when men & women are together. That calls for different dialogues than when men are with men & women are with women.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:24 PM)
All feelings and ways for all people - one of my girl children, we call the Barbarian (she's fierce!!) And one of the boy children is soft and gentle - we knew he'd been sent to us on purpose (because we're a lovely gentle family)
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
Do you deal with spousal abuse at all - and the healing of that?
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
The Red Tent is for women. Men need their Challenge Groups. All is coming into balance.
Steve Tennant to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
@Kathryn - has not been a focus that I’m aware of, but I’m not in all the challenge groups. We tend tow work on ourselves rather than try to solve global problems.
David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
I wonder how your mens’ work into cracking open the male egocentric bastion of consciousness might relate to how men react to the existential threat of uncontrolled global warming? Are men who have participated in challenge, support, and initiation groups more open to that aspect of reality?
Michael Lipson - EVRYMAN to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
evryman.com global community calls free to all every Tue 8-9:15pm Eastern (New York) time. last call of the month is coed. The free “Drop In Groups” are only open to men… Michael@evryman.com if you want to learn more. Our mission is the lift the mental emotional wellness and 1 million in 5 years by helping them learn to slow down, feel and connect from that place.
mary thorp to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)
What I'm seeing is that when the purpose of the group shifts, no matter that men or women, different thngs are addressed.
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)
I am grateful to learn about your work on self and helping others
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:27 PM)
From the Q&A...I have a rather radical question. If the female is more responsible for the baby (carrying, nurturing, feeding, caring), and the make is responsible for providing security (safe space, shelter, food, safe tribe). In our modern world, this may mean a responsibility for global condition. so, rather than talking about a balance between individual and social, which tends to collapse to providing for one's own children, it is an obligation to providing for all children. That is, men's responsibility for global state, which means a serious commitment. Do any of the panelists relate to this?
Steve Tennant 12:22 PM
Totally agree, David - I hear you. I try to balance these personal and societal needs. Sometimes the global needs are overwhelming. I have found myself getting more involved in politics to try to have more impact.
Steve Tennant to Panelists and Attendees (12:27 PM)
@David - share your question on climate - I’ve heard many men express their concern. We have not organized as activists yet, but many are interested in pursuing and becoming more conscious about our own impacts.
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
Sergio: beautiful thought
Lion Goodman to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
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Passcode: 919 541
Jane Norton to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
very heartened by this session. Please keep inviting more men into this work. Thank you for your honesty and vulnerability while also owning your authentic power.
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
I’m glad you guys are alive!!
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
Yes, Lion, the longest journey is 18” from head to heart...now the gut instincts is playing a role, important
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
The Living Values Education Program: The first two Values instructed are Love and Peace. All the other Values are generated from these.
Developing quality Character traits is vitally important for all levels of society. When will WE emphasize this?
There is one program, ::http://LivingValues.net:: that has over 90% reduction in violence in a Thai Refugee Camp within 2 years! The woman who developed it then went to Johannesburg, RSA and designed a program for street people - similar results!
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
An amazing time to be alive!! Aren't we lucky!! So glad you are working in this way!! Gives me hope for the future Thank you
Lesley Southwick-Trask to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
Refreshing, authentic and resonant. Thank you so very much.
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
Steve: what an eye opener and yes, let's help children to be open minded
Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
Yes, and why are there kings an Queens at all?
Richard Page to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
Please name the card deck
Jane Norton to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
@Steve can you post info about the cards?
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
YES! So refreshing to witness a group like this, doesn’t matter the gender!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
Queeng is the name of the card deck.
Steve Tennant to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
Thank you men. Love the focus of the 3 gut, heart, head. Complete in the big three.
Carlos Prosser to Panelists and Attendees (12:31 PM)
Thanks, your work is esential, we need rebalance
Ina Albert to Panelists and Attendees (12:31 PM)
Ina Albert: Training in listening skills seems to me to be basic for relationships to work male or female or organizational and certainly societal!
mary thorp to Panelists and Attendees (12:31 PM)
In the 18" conversation:
Don't forget the "head" most men operate from.
Steve Tennant to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)
If you are or know men who are interested in the tribeofmen they can reach out to inquiries@tribeofmen.com
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)
Agree Michael - Love the young but - we can offer them stuff too!! wisdom comes with age and experience so......
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)
word of caution: young people will be more open to advice from other young people, and probably not older
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)
men have been building teams for all human history. Thank you for speaking to us.
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)
@Michael, beautiful!
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)
Somatics is the BOMB!
Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)
Thank you all!
Veronika Krejci to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)
THANK you all for standing up and speaking candidly. Keep it going.
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:32 PM)
Would a black mens group be different?
Davidson Akhonya to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)
COMMUNITY OF Heart = Connecting from deep hearts!
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)
Feel free to come to the afterchat. Cameron Daddo in OZ formed a Men’s Organization similar to the work your doing. He’s in Sydney area.
Michael Lipson - EVRYMAN to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)
thx for listening all - happy to email you more if you want - i gotta jump… And yes we at Evryman have black men groups - including free to public one on monday eves ET time
Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)
Kudos to you All! Really inspirational! Beautiful...you’re holding the space for Human growth!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)
Humanity Rising - we are, together!
Steve Tennant to Panelists and Attendees (12:33 PM)
@Kathryn - Yes, it is. We have a mixed race group and Evryman has men of color groups. Their issues are different
Michael Lipson - EVRYMAN to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)
bye all - thx for listening!
Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)
Thank you Everyone!
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)
Thank you ALL for such a rich day!!! Healing to the heart!
Davidson Akhonya to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)
Love this conversations. Following from Kenya in Africa. Thank you all!
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)
Heart warming indeed!! Thank you!!!
Lion Goodman to Panelists and Attendees (12:34 PM)
AfterChat Zoom Access
Zoom Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
Passcode: 919 541
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:35 PM)
Jim - Brilliant!
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:35 PM)
It's all a process of evolution!! And we're changing!! Especially now - a special recognisable moment!!
Lion Goodman to Panelists and Attendees (12:35 PM)
Women’s Liberation : from Inner to Outer.
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:35 PM)
yay, Lion, thank you for posting the AfterChat link! We’ll see you there!
Lion Goodman to Panelists and Attendees (12:36 PM)
Men’s Liberation: from Outer to Inner.
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (12:36 PM)
“IS” Jim, not “was” ; we still have a long way to go🙏♥️
Davidson Akhonya to Panelists and Attendees (12:37 PM)
@Michael Lipson can you send info about EVERYMAN. My email is: elgon.peace@gmail.com
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:37 PM)
You seem to have created your own after chat LION. You’re not interested in the one that has been going on since May?
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:37 PM)
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Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (12:37 PM)
All our Liberation is integrating All our voices! Lovely!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:37 PM)
kurt, it’s the same one.
Jeannet Weurman to Panelists and Attendees (12:37 PM)
Thanks, Jim. Yes, men and women need our own spaces and we need to see and value each other and and build a future together.
Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Panelists and Attendees (12:37 PM)
Sorry Lion its the same
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:37 PM)
Kurt it is the same room, just presented differently
Kala to Panelists and Attendees (12:38 PM)
Thank you, deeply for all your work!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:38 PM)
just cause you’re old doesn’t make you wise. Self-reflection is required!
Ina Albert to Panelists and Attendees (12:38 PM)
Ina Albert: How about those of us who are in our 80s, 90s too
Davidson Akhonya to Panelists and Attendees (12:38 PM)
We need everyone in the Afterchat. I miss Lesley in particular.
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:39 PM)
burning issues - come to the AfterChat!!!
mary thorp to Panelists and Attendees (12:39 PM)
What time is the after chat?
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:39 PM)
NOW!!!
Lion Goodman to Panelists and Attendees (12:39 PM)
IAfterChat Zoom Access
Zoom Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
Passcode: 919 541
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:39 PM)
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..oOo..
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
..oOo..
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