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Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:02 AM)
good Morning, Jim - and all!! Bless you on this anniversary - may it be over very soon. We have learned and morphed and been traumatized - time to heal now. Please include Attendees in this chatbox so we see what you say & we can chat together. We are One.
beautiful. Please - what do the words mean?
Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:05 AM)
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Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:05 AM)
thanks, Stan, good to see - see you there!
MOM, in action. It’s not all sweetness and light.
Davidson Akhonya to Panelists and Attendees (11:08 AM)
As a peace activist, I find the sharing here very informative. Glad to hook up
Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees (11:09 AM)
List of nuclear releases: ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_nuclear_disasters_and_radioactive_incidents::
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:09 AM)
good to see you, Davidson.
Davidson Akhonya to Panelists and Attendees (11:09 AM)
I am Davidson Akhonya in Kenya
Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees (11:10 AM)
GE designed 6 for TETCO. Global greenhouse effect, large extinction events, continental drift all radical theories in 1972, Forgive the engineers from then? What do we now understand?
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:11 AM)
unconditional love… forgiveness is a gift we give ourselves
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:12 AM)
I see ego that dismisses wisdom as an issue in so many of the challenges we have now. this is but one example.
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:14 AM)
thank you for bringing your wisdom to this forum for us, Maggie & Arnie.
Hi, Chiho. Good to have you with us - I hope you get to use that piano behind you! ;)
Hi Norma. Thanks for coming.
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (11:18 AM)
Right now Southern California is at great risk. This nuclear engineer explains it in a two minute video and there was a hearing about San Onofre with millions of pounds of nuke waste 100 feet from the Pacific Ocean in an earthquake zone: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_i8DG7rXqo::
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:19 AM)
oh, Jean. that’s distressing, isn’t it?!
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (11:19 AM)
NRC, is wanting to approve Holtec with over 3,000 canisters, only 5/8 inch thick and welded shut, so no inspections. Stuart Scott and Paul Blanch speak in the video I posted. Just one of those canisters could cause a Chernobyl size disaster. Holtec canisters were involved with the closing WIPP down for a few years in New Mexico.
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (11:20 AM)
Greetings! Arnie and Maggie have prepared some key links:
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (11:20 AM)
Four Myths from Fukushima: Arnie at The WAVE Conference (Professionally shot). ::https://www.fairewinds.org/nuclear-energy-education/wave::
2. Fairewinds' Arnie Gundersen Presentation at the New York Academy of Medicine hosted by Dr. Helen Caldicott (professionally shot). ::https://www.fairewinds.org/nuclear-energy-education/fairewinds-arnie-gundersen-presentation-at-helen-caldicott-foundation-symposium::
3. The Echo Chamber: Regulatory Capture and the Fukushima Daiichi Disaster for Greenpeace. ::http://ow.ly/J3gp50DQsNZ::
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:20 AM)
Thank you, Mary!
Maggie Gundersen to Panelists and Attendees (11:21 AM)
Thank you for hosting us. Yes, we have done considerable work at evaluating things at San Onofre. The NRC’s decision are against all sensibility and are incompatible with life on this planet.
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (11:22 AM)
Here is the Fairewinds website--HUGE resource ::https://www.fairewinds.org/::
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:22 AM)
omg
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (11:23 AM)
I am coming back to Humanity Rising in April... to talk about disproportionate impact of radiation on female bodies compared to male... www.Genderandradiation.org is where to learn more about that.
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (11:23 AM)
Uranium Film Festival virtual begins today from Rio de Janeiro, ::https://uraniumfilmfestival.org/en/fukushima-2021::
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (11:25 AM)
Asia Pacific Journal: Articles by Norm Field ::https://apjjf.org/-Norma-Field::
With Fairewinds: "Fukushima Ain’t Got Time for Olympic Games”
Atomic Age Blog: ::https://lucian.uchicago.edu/blogs/atomicage/::
Article from Norma Field's blog--why would the world go into the radioactive particle zone for GAMES?
Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:37 AM)
Mary... it can be useful to include http:// in web references to make the references clickable for most browsers. Otherwise the reference needs to be pasted into an address bar.
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (11:37 AM)
Harvard recently hosted a nuclear conference on Chernobyl and Fukushima. There is a rise in interest in new nuke generating plants.
Rachel Root to Panelists and Attendees (11:37 AM)
Incredible!!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:38 AM)
thank you, Arnie
Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees (11:38 AM)
Jean, Bill Gates is helping to generate new nuclear interest. :(
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (11:38 AM)
What has been the effect on the Pacific?
Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees (11:39 AM)
What impact has there been on Hawaii, Alaska, west coast of USA?
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (11:39 AM)
Yes, and he is financially invested in the new nuke plants and promoting it via his new book.
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (11:42 AM)
I am so sorry for your personal loss.
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:42 AM)
I spent sometime last night looking at videos of the water on that day - truly mind boggling.
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (11:46 AM)
What about you, Norma, I know you went to Fukushima in November 2011. What compelled you to go there?
I refer to Ruiko Muto and Hiroaki Koide. I thought it would be nice to make available a translation of her famous speech and a speech by Hiroaki Koide " for young people":
•Ruiko Muto's speech at the Goodbye Gempatsu demonstration of September 19 [2011], translated by Emma Parker
•Message for young people in Europe and Asia by Hiroaki Koide, Japanese nuclear engineer
•Message for young people in Europe and Asia by Hiroaki Koide, Japanese nuclear engineer
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (11:47 AM)
Witness. So important.
Fission is the name for splitting atoms. It does happen in uranium deposits RARELY. The overwhelming MOST of atom-splitting on Earth is ANDROGENIC... (...ok, let's have a drink and discuss lightening, you nerds!)
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)
come to the AfterChat, Mary
let’s do that!
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)
Beauty. Love. Awakening... the love of mothers and fathers for their children... Grandmothers and Grandfathers...
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (11:50 AM)
Radiation endangers these intergenerational links. Check out www.childrenofatomicveterans.org where Gender and Radiation is listed as a project... collaborative WITNESS.
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:51 AM)
happens to us all ;)
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)
The hard choices the average person was required to make….. tears
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (11:56 AM)
Chiho to Norma We both witnessed so many heartbreaking developments. Could you share some of the outstanding ones?
on thyroid cancer
•Thyroid Cancer in Fukushima Children: When the Language and Information Gaps Mislead
•Association between the detection rate of thyroid cancer and the external radiation dose-rate after the nuclear power plant accidents in Fukushima, Japan
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (11:56 AM)
Norma adds this document from Beyond Nuclear ::http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/356082/28412874/1615473017127/UNSCEAR+Press+Release+_3_11_2021.pdf?token=vnlXXr9PDODwjQ67q74VPMKvVMQ%3D::
This last is a commentary on UNSCEAR report
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (11:58 AM)
Monstrous indeed!
KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Panelists and Attendees (11:58 AM)
Appreciate your passion!
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (12:01 PM)
Charmaigne WhiteFace helped to found the Defenders of the Black Hills, and is featured in the movie HOT WATERhttps://www.zerohotwater.com/
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:01 PM)
Indians in Arizona are fighting a copper mine TODAY on their sacred land. Mcain allowed the land to taken from them.
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (12:03 PM)
There are 10's of thousands of abandoned uranium mines across North America, unmarked, uncleaned up. Contamination of ground an dsurface water
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:03 PM)
Chiho, I hear you. Thank you.
Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees (12:03 PM)
Alaskans continue to fight Pebble Mine at the headwaters of Bristol Bay wild salmon spawning rivers, Courage, Fortitude, Generosity, Thank you Chiho, Norma!
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:04 PM)
Yes - Kat - when will we stop?
KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:04 PM)
Yes love that … in the presence of these horrific facts. The whole situation is so heart breaking… thank you for the message of courage and fortitude.
Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees (12:04 PM)
We will stop when we love ourselves. •Thyroid Cancer in Fukushima Children: When the Language and Information Gaps Mislead
•Association between the detection rate of thyroid cancer and the external radiation dose-rate after the nuclear power plant accidents in Fukushima, Japan
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (9:56 AM)
Norma adds this document from Beyond Nuclear ::http://static1.1.sqspcdn.com/static/f/356082/28412874/1615473017127/UNSCEAR+Press+Release+_3_11_2021.pdf?token=vnlXXr9PDODwjQ67q74VPMKvVMQ%3D::
Davidson Akhonya to Panelists and Attendees (12:05 PM)
Thank you Chiho for sharing.: I missed the 4th one:Courage, Fortitude, Generosity, and ....?
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)
Svetlana Alexandrovna Alexievich also wrote the voices from Chernobyl, how victims were dispersed and mistreated
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)
thank you so much.
KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)
THANK YOU yes for your love courage wisdom fortitude and willingness to witness. Blessings to you both.
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (12:09 PM)
Blessings for all your work panelists!!!
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)
Chiho shared the 4 jewels from Charmaigne White Face shared with her, from Charmaign's grandmother:
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (12:11 PM)
COURAGE, FORTITUDE, WISDOM, GENEROSITY
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)
Monstrous hubris to create such peril/waste for 100’s of thousands of years — especially just to boil water to turn turbins.
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:13 PM)
About the Crisis of DEMOCRACY, LAW, Money and the Environment:
The Community Environmental Legal Defense Fund (CELDF) is building a movement for Community Rights and the Rights of Nature to advance democratic, economic, social, and environmental rights – building upward from the grassroots to the state, federal, and international level.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:14 PM)
Hugely affecting presentation/present=gift. Thank you xxxxx
Marcia Raff to Panelists and Attendees (12:14 PM)
Her emotions make us realize just how serious this problem is!
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)
"There is no such thing as an accident. There is only not taking care."!!!!!
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)
Fairewinds Peer-Reviewed Fukushima Papers
6. Science of the Total Environment (STOTEN) journal: Radioactively-hot Particles Detected in Dusts and Soils from Northern Japan by Combination of Gamma Spectrometry, Autoradiography, and SEM/EDS Analysis and Implications in Radiation Risk Assessment published in 2017. ::https://www.fairewinds.org/stoten-methods/::
7. Journal of Environmental Engineering Science: Radioactive Isotopes Measured at Olympic and Paralympic Venues in Fukushima Prefecture and Tokyo, Japan published in 2020. ::https://www.fairewinds.org/ees-journal-radioactive-isotopes-measured-olympic-paralympic-venues-fukushima-prefecture-tokyo::
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:15 PM)
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How Wealth Rules the World - the book:
CELDEF published a book that reveals the most important environmental and legal blockages to democracy and the rights of communities and nature by Ben G. Price "How Wealth Rules the World" It describes how the U.S. Supreme Court has been and still is a choir for the Theology of Property.
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Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)
Maggie, your tears are eloquent, your passion and caring clearly evident. You move me. Thank you for your truth.
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)
Cancer is the perfect crime!
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)
Fukushima
1. Four Myths from Fukushima: Arnie at The WAVE Conference (Professionally shot). ::https://www.fairewinds.org/nuclear-energy-education/wave::
2. Fairewinds' Arnie Gundersen Presentation at the New York Academy of Medicine hosted by Dr. Helen Caldicott (professionally shot). ::https://www.fairewinds.org/nuclear-energy-education/fairewinds-arnie-gundersen-presentation-at-helen-caldicott-foundation-symposium::
3. The Echo Chamber: Regulatory Capture and the Fukushima Daiichi Disaster for Greenpeace. ::http://ow.ly/J3gp50DQsNZ::
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)
Why? Because they have no wish to take responsibility!! How do they sleep at night?
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (12:17 PM)
Atomic Age
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:17 PM)
we’re here for you, Maggie
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:17 PM)
Truthers. We recognise you xxx
KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)
So much gratitude from the bottom of my heart that you are both willing to do this work.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)
Gosh!! This recording needs to be spread across the world.
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:19 PM)
These truths need to be shared!!
Fantastic finish Maggie!! Well done!!!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:19 PM)
The Knights of the Round Table changed their barbaric world. So are you, changing ours. Thank you.
Marcia Raff to Panelists and Attendees (12:20 PM)
I missed the name of the movie she mentioned. Can someone post it please?
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (12:20 PM)
Can you guess that Fairewinds is not funded by industry or government? If you want to help support the work of the Gundersens, go here: ::https://www.fairewinds.org/make-a-donation::
Peg Kuperman to Panelists and Attendees (12:20 PM)
Hot Water Documentary
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:21 PM)
Hand in glove relationship... read the book that describes this process across all industries...
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How Wealth Rules the World - the book:
CELDEF published a book that reveals the most important environmental and legal blockages to democracy and the rights of communities and nature by Ben G. Price "How Wealth Rules the World" It describes how the U.S. Supreme Court has been and still is a choir for the Theology of Property.
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AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:22 PM)
Corporations like Bechtel have a revolving door with leading govt officials. The Profiteers : Bechtel and the Men Who Built the World
by Sally Denton Denton chronicles their international activities, as well, all can lead to bombs.
Peg Kuperman to Panelists and Attendees (12:22 PM)
AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)
The people of the world and future generations are in your debt!
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (12:23 PM)
At one point there was a moment of truth from the US Government: When Japanese citizens were told to go 12 miles away from the Daiichi nuclear site, the US State Dept told US Citizens in Japan to stay a minimum of 50 miles away.
That was in March, 2011
Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees (12:24 PM)
No New Nukes! How much? How Long? trillions over decades only reduce CO2 by 3%, renewables available now, more for less faster.
Heartbroken with you, thank you!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
Maggie & Arnie, thank you so much for showing how passionate you are, and knowledgeable… bless you!
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:25 PM)
Such a blessing - all of you.
Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:25 PM)
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Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session closes. We encourage presenters, community people from around the world to participate.
You can join the Zoom Meeting
Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)
Thank you so much for your work on this - heartbroken - will support sharing this message. Appreciate you all so much.
Davidson Akhonya to Panelists and Attendees (12:26 PM)
This is indeed very interesting. Asante sana to all of you. Let's keep knit together so we can amplify our voice around the world. From Davidson Akhonya in Kenya. Keep me posted: Whatsapp: +254725577885
Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
Just that last statement of yours was helpful. Thank you Arnie. We can use renewables and we get 'more bang for our buck'. That could convince governments (except they are involved with their own pockets so - dreaming again.) But...…. On we go
Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
Choose our path precautionary, wisely. Winds of change are blowing, let’s nudge them toward survivability?
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
A powerful short film!!!
Marcia Raff to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
Whew, scary!
Diane Sue to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
Thank you all for this INCREDIBLY POWEFUL presentation!
KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Panelists and Attendees (12:28 PM)
Jim, thank you again for bringing another amazing session. This one was so powerful.
Maggie Gundersen to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
Thank you Jim for hosting all of us!
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
Jim meant Seabrook reactor--Clam Shell Alliance was the peaceful resistance
Kathryn Alexander, MA to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
Treas…. so grateful for the work you are doing!!!
Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (12:29 PM)
Jim, what you are doing with broadcasting Humanity Rising is an enormous contribution to humanity!
Kat Haber to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
Peace, chat action peeps! Such a rich set of links to be shared widely today. Thank you everyone! Heartwarming indeed!
Maggie Gundersen to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
Jim, Windscale in the UK is where we also have a community-volunteer citizen-science project underway.
Marcia Raff to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
Fake news for all these years!
Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
Let’s talk Sqale in the AfterChat today… and what CAN be done…
Mary Olson to Panelists and Attendees (12:30 PM)
YES! THANK YOU JIM, and the full HUMANITY RISING Team.
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