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Humanity Rising Day 193 Chat Page   –   Friday February 26, 2021

Text of the Zoom Chat from Humanity Rising Day 193

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Liliane Mavridara to Everyone (11:00 AM)

Happy Friday Everyone!

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:02 AM)

Welcome once again! Blessings from Kamloops BC Canada, land of the Secwepmc in the watershed of the N&S Thompson Rivers. please include Attendees  here in the chatbox so  we see what you say!

This is the fun part!

Me to All panelists and other attendees (11:09 AM)

Yup, itThe fun part on the 193rd

Let's all work together!

Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees (11:10 AM)

Great framing ,Mr Tolle

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:11 AM)

yes

Candy Leonard to Panelists and Attendees (11:14 AM)

tech solutionism is a problem

David Pinto to Panelists and Attendees (11:21 AM)

Organisational solutions is a problem too… I think self-transforming mind caters for this ‘paradox’

David Pinto to Panelists and Attendees (11:27 AM)

Nice transforms of VUCA

Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees (11:31 AM)

“Accept non-conforming data” - love that

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (11:31 AM)

Out of the mouths  of babes!

Candy Leonard to Panelists and Attendees (11:32 AM)

Is he related to Eckart Tolle?

jim garrison to Panelists and Attendees (11:33 AM)

Don’t think so.

Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees (11:34 AM)

Fear… the basis for so much going on now… intuition is often not valued...

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:38 AM)

the ecovillage community

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:43 AM)

Wow!! Just walked in to hear "There is no good and there is no bad"! Love it - remember when someone said that to me. I say that to people now and it irritates them too hahaha

Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:43 AM)

Thinking out of the box...my dyslexic son taught me that

Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees (11:43 AM)

Wow - yes “good thing, bad thing, who knows?”

Candy Leonard to Panelists and Attendees (11:43 AM)

Yep - After the Industrial Rev women were excluded from the dev of culture

Jean Stevens to Panelists and Attendees (11:44 AM)

Tamera, Portugal                                        ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tamera::

Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees (11:44 AM)

Yes - balance of divine feminine and divine masculine ...

Candy Leonard to Panelists and Attendees (11:44 AM)

Yep

Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:45 AM)

yes, we are a balance of both.

David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees (11:45 AM)

Rumi says -

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:45 AM)

There is just what is. Lovely! And certainly - time to move on from patriarchal. Whereas feminine leading would include masculine as a part of the whole (hopefully)

Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:46 AM)

also, the feminine intuition is needed in mirror neurons

Mary Thorp to Panelists and Attendees (11:46 AM)

I’d just call it divine, no fem/masculine. it is Divine.

Ian Lewis to Panelists and Attendees (11:46 AM)

Is it not possible to dump M & F and just honour the person wholistically…. we at lifecollege.org stand in this mutual place.

David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees (11:46 AM)

Rumi says - “Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing,

there is a field. I’ll meet you there.

When the soul lies down in that grass,

the world is too full to talk about.

Ideas, language, even the phrase “each other”

doesn’t make any sense.

The breeze at dawn has secrets to tell you.

Don’t go back to sleep.

You must ask for what you really want.

Don’t go back to sleep.

People are going back and forth across the doorsill

where the two worlds touch.

The door is round and open.

Don’t go back to sleep.”

Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees (11:47 AM)

Could also be expressed as convergent focus (pointed action) and divergent focus (wholistic)

Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:47 AM)

“When you move beyond consciousness, you caress the beloved. When you move into the unknown, beyond everything, the beloved caresses you.”    ~Rumi

Mary Thorp to Panelists and Attendees (11:48 AM)

Human being is powerful. I don’t distinguish between male/female rabbits or ground hog. or dog is just dog.

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (11:48 AM)

Yes, Mary and yes Ian and ……… Rumi!!! Wonderful!!! Thank you David!! will copy that xxx

Mary Thorp to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)

Unfortunately, it’s not openly discussed in West Virginia.

Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees (11:49 AM)

Q: DO you find this openness developing in the USA?

David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees (11:50 AM)

I wonder what the lesson of today’s world is for my soul?  I’ve been told the world is full of young and old souls, here for lessons…

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:50 AM)

we see that with the Australia issue

Candy Leonard to Panelists and Attendees (11:50 AM)

Google culture likes meditation, macrodosing, etc, not to help humanity but to further surveillance capitalism

micro

Ian Lewis to Panelists and Attendees (11:51 AM)

There is, within and without us - fully us when we are in it, the field of energy called many things by many people; for me it is The Euphoric Field, because this is the energy I seek to be.

Candy Leonard to Panelists and Attendees (11:52 AM)

Nothing is as big as google

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:53 AM)

Yes, Eileen Fisher has been doing some interesting work

Mary Thorp to Panelists and Attendees (11:53 AM)

David, yes to lessons. But what about what we promise to contribute because I am here giving as well as taking? ipromise bank.com Deposit your promise into the iPromise Bank where we treasure your promise while creating the future of humanity through language.

Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:53 AM)

The androgynous, non binary identification is apart of society now for a reason...is it about looking at the human “being ness” & not male/female?

Ian Lewis to Panelists and Attendees (11:53 AM)

Wot - try human consciousness, then add all of consciousness. This is big. :))

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (11:54 AM)

That's great, thank you Alfred.

Mary Thorp to Panelists and Attendees (11:54 AM)

yes, Ian. Consciousness!

Humanity Rising to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)

LinkedIn is working at bringing compassion into the workplace with integrated traings and groups

Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:55 AM)

It’s grief & trauma recovery so imperative

David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees (11:56 AM)

A good accompaniment for the Rumi poem is this T S Eliot - "Little Gidding" (1942 poem, from Four Quartets)  T.S. Eliot, “Little Gidding” V in Four Quartets)

“We shall not cease from exploration

And the end of all our exploring

Will be to arrive where we started

And know the place for the first time…”

“Through the unknown, unremembered
Gate where the last of earth left to
Discover is that which was the beginning…
Quick now, here, now, always -
A condition of complete simplicity

(Costing not less than everything)
And all shall be well and all
Manner of things shall be well…”

Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (11:57 AM)

suffered & overcome 👍

Ian Lewis to Panelists and Attendees (11:57 AM)

Surely grief & trauma are examples of stopping energy of consciousness flowing - which causes pain & blocking & stuck energies of consciousness?

Kurt Krueger, MeWe to Panelists and Attendees (11:58 AM)

AMAZINGLY, Bhutan has the most abuse of females p/c than any other country. :(

Sarita Patel to Panelists and Attendees (11:58 AM)

What do you think about the commercial narrative where leaders have coaches and stylists who prepare leaders to seem as if they are relatable- but then have no real leadership skills for change?

David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees (11:59 AM)

Feeling grief is a right hemisphere function and is a gateway to wholeness.

Sarita Patel to Panelists and Attendees (12:00 PM)

Apprenticing people - will result in financial growth over the long walk - not short term earnings.

Ian Lewis to Panelists and Attendees (12:00 PM)

Leadership is so poorly understood - mainly through arrogance, the highly restrictive nature of ego. True leadership, from consciousness, cannot but flow with the energy of the cosmic; it never gets stuck in the minutia of organisations, markets, countries or intentions/laws.

Candy Leonard to Panelists and Attendees (12:00 PM)

Here’s an interesting and disturbing read about the challenges we face humanizing Silicon Valley ::https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/36288143-brotopia::

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:01 PM)

Sad Kurt! (have to comment so as to avoid 'a blind spot'!!) Would be happier if that were not true. However, they must be learning too and - when we're all properly one...….. Wise and sharing...……..

Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (12:01 PM)

Important to ask open ended questions!

David Pinto to Panelists and Attendees (12:03 PM)

What a question Jim.

Mary Thorp to Panelists and Attendees (12:03 PM)

The context is decisive_Landmark Worldwide  Without shifting the context/paradigm, you just get more, better or different of the same crap.

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:04 PM)

Yes, every person on the ground becoming aware and activated!!

David Pinto to Panelists and Attendees (12:04 PM)

Alfred’s response is valid: the solution is us, ie not from within the corporate structure. Is that right?

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:05 PM)

Totally David. Yes!!

We, the people, can bypass the system!!

As he is saying!! No fear!!

Mary Thorp to Panelists and Attendees (12:05 PM)

As Bucky Fuller said: We must go from you OR me to you AND me

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:05 PM)

If Google was a person, it would experience a great inner disconnect. On one hand, meditating and using compassion leadership skills to feel “good” while on the other hand, exploiting humans, land, and other resources for his/her personal benefit. There needs to be a bridge of these two, somehow.

Ian Lewis to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)

The minutia [which is organisations, markets, countries or intentions/laws] misses the flow of consciousness and yet hijacks it. Be bigger than these and a leader emerges from the right place where the good and well-being of all things cannot be avoided.

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)

Every thought you think!! Every place you put your pound/dollar!

David Pinto to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)

Tough place to be: to bring such awareness or decision to people.

Mary Thorp to Panelists and Attendees (12:06 PM)

Google would be sick!

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:07 PM)

Every person on the ground can push every CEO to change their behaviour!!

Ian Lewis to Panelists and Attendees (12:07 PM)

Pounds/dollars miss the value of so much. We have to be bigger than price/money/ownership.

David Pinto to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)

You are passionate about this, Diane.

Kurt Krueger, MeWe to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)

Alfred, Please look over the Peace LAB and help answer: “What is the mystery of peace, that if we were to discover and embrace, our realization of it would be faster and easier."

We'd love to have you collaborate with us in answering this query. We are designing 90 minutes, 5 day presentations on Humanity Rising for March 1-5.

You could be a massive contributor with your hearty background. Othernetworks.org/Peace_LAB OR ChatAction.org for more.

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)

Of course Ian - that's how to bypass the system but - we live in a world where most are 'playing the other game' so - how do we affect that?

Sarita Patel to Panelists and Attendees (12:08 PM)

I’ve seen when the inner sense of a leader can shift the corporate group because it seems to just ignite what already existed in service- but needed the permission.   So Leaders who can listen and do the work- and know there is no lack of money- That is the bridge to weaken disconnection. 🙏🏼

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:09 PM)

Yes, David - that's my job!! (To save the world!!! hahaha)

Mary Thorp to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)

Here are the 4 fundamental elements Werner Erhard’s Leadership Training require: 1. integrity 2. authenticity 3. being cause in the matter 4. having a commitment bigger than themself. From there, leadership can be a self-expression. /thorpdesign@gmail.com

Ian Lewis to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)

I value that, Sarita.

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:10 PM)

also, I'm not into power but - we, the people, do already have people power (and can change the world) - via pounds and dollars etc. (Even if by not spending at all!! hahaha)

Sarita Patel to Panelists and Attendees (12:11 PM)

We have to move away from the media telling us who is authentic - creating a model that is not realistic for broader groups

Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (12:11 PM)

Power to the People!🤩

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)

Yaaaaay!!!

Ian Lewis to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)

The people are the power - but their skills & confidence are poorly developed.

David Stoney to Panelists and Attendees (12:12 PM)

Grief, love, and fear are powerful, scary, but temporary, even malleable feelings.  However, one can hold onto them until death if one chooses.  Perhaps learning about them is one of our soul lessons…

Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)

How does Love work into the new model?

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)

Hence education big part of solution!!

Love first!!!!!!!!

Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)

Thanks you for your big hearted and brilliant sharing

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:13 PM)

Thank you Alfred!

Mary Thorp to Panelists and Attendees (12:14 PM)

How do we contact Albert?

Ian Lewis to Panelists and Attendees (12:14 PM)

Certainly, Diane. The quality of the education is everything. It is not skills training towards employment.

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:14 PM)

Every move, governed or coloured by and with love xxx

Mary Thorp to Panelists and Attendees (12:14 PM)

Alfred?

Liliane Mavridara to Panelists and Attendees (12:14 PM)

and who we are becoming because of the pandemic.

Sally Okoniewski to Panelists and Attendees (12:14 PM)

Yes - the response it IT

Humanity Rising to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)

Carl Jung

Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)

Hear-hear....our response is always the key to life’s strife 🙏❤️

Jane Norton to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)

Grateful for Alfred's courage in speaking truth to power at Google and other places,. We need more people like him working to shift capitalist corporations.

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:15 PM)

Exactly Ian - what we get is how to find a job whereas what we need is how to live - with compassion, consideration and curiosity

Ian Lewis to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)

Strongly agree - the field of consciousness is all about how we are [respond?] in our selves now and always.

Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:16 PM)

.            ..oOo..

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Chat PEOPLE and  panelists

Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes.

We will also be holding a planning session for the Peace LAB in a breakout room.

You can join the Zoom Meeting

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::

Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451

Passcode: 919541

.               ..oOo..

You can also sign up for the daily Peace CHALLENGE at ::https://chataction.org::  - The Peace Challenge will be on-going through February culminating in a week of Peace, March 1 to 5.

              ..oOo..

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Rachel Root to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)

Thank you so much Alfred and Jim for this conversation and for what both of you are doing in this pandemic!!

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)

Great Jim - from the inside out!!!

Sarita Patel to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)

THANK YOU!!

Ian Lewis to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)

Agreee -= well done,Jim

Kurt Krueger, MeWe to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)

Peace Lab

https://othernetworks.org/Peace_Lab::

LABoratory ~ experiments, investigates, researches, and explorations, and some emergent design … ALSO

LAByrinth ~ one winding, irregular, peaceful path in and out!

Diane Skidmore to Panelists and Attendees (12:16 PM)

Thank  you Both xxx

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:17 PM)

We’re going to have SUCH fun!!

Sarita Patel to Panelists and Attendees (12:17 PM)

Yay!  Peace & The After Chat!!!!🌟

Me to All panelists and other attendees (12:17 PM)

Yay.... Chat Action!!!!

Dehanna Rice to Panelists and Attendees (12:17 PM)

Brilliant, Thank you for the inspirational talk!

Shannon McArthur to Panelists and Attendees (12:18 PM)

This is DEFINITELY the fun part!!!

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