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10:57:47 From Stan Pokras to Host and Panelists:
Does V have any interest in joining the AfterChat?
11:00:51 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Good morning… loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:01:29 From Doreen Tanenbaum to Host and Panelists:
Good Morning from Cherokee Country -North Carolina.
11:02:19 From Sharon Pugh to Everyone:
Greetings from Wilson, NC, Cherokee, Tuscarora & Lumbee lands
11:03:38 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Very nice to breathe with You…
11:03:53 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Welcome to Day 612 with V on Apology
11:07:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Venus and Gaia, dancing together around the Sun!
11:08:17 From Kat McNulty to Everyone:
Greetings from Merida, Mexico land of the Mayans
11:08:25 From Margot Borden to Everyone:
Good evening from Tiruvannamalai, India, the home of Ramana Maharshi.
11:09:26 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
Good day from Alicante, Spain. Much LOVE to all.
11:09:32 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
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Welcome to Humanity Rising
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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11:09:55 From Jøran Solberg to Everyone:
I don't believe in apology as a spiritual principle.
11:10:21 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:
Yes, the entire world needs to repent, turn around. (Should be something we the Globe can accomplish since we’re always rotating anyway! )
11:10:24 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thank you for your open mind that allows your witnessing this program, Joran.
11:10:26 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Thank you for being here with us, V!! So glad to hear from you!
11:10:31 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
How nice to see you V !!!
11:10:53 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Good morning!!! V!!!
11:11:03 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Welcome V FOR VICTORY ✌️
11:12:09 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:
Evolving and revolving!
11:13:31 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:
Remember that the bedrock was once shifting sand—and can become shifting sand again!
11:13:53 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
Two visions: MLK, Jr and Indigenous Knowing - The Pathway to Peace. ::https://fb.watch/i579i4814_/::
11:15:15 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Connie, that is such a meaningful film and so relevant for our time!
11:16:20 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
what a horror V - and look how you shifted the energy and raised yours so high... sadly it may be that your father lashed out to you with the anger and rage he felt for himself
11:20:13 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:
I helped create a Lament Event over Sexualized Violence at my church. We incorporated knowledge from V — and there were apologies and other important clearing expressions. And of course, dancing at the end!
11:20:28 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Police violence on ANY BODIES!, inclusion is vital these days…
11:20:32 From Galen Meyers to Host and Panelists:
“To give him the right to pain” …Wow. Heavy. In the context of the difference between understanding and justifying… Very powerful. Thank you. 💜☯️🙏
11:21:17 From Andrew Bailey to Everyone:
Love and blessings from the foothills of the Rocky Mountains!
11:21:46 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
Many blessings and love to you V !!!
11:21:48 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Amy, thank you for doing and sharing — what an experience. I’m glad there was dancing!!
11:21:57 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Amy, keep on Keepin on ~ it’s so liberating ~ creating more and more Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace. 🙂
11:22:52 From lalli drobny to Host and Panelists:
What were last words of book, please?
11:23:01 From Galen Meyers to Everyone:
“I had refused to humanize him… To give him the right to pain” Wow. Heavy. In the context of the difference between understanding and justifying… Very powerful. Thank you! 💜☯️🙏
11:24:38 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
It’s Heart Intelligence & it’s ability to transform!
11:24:40 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Then check out Forgiving the Unforgivable is also the first of The Four Sacred Gifts, a great book by an indigenous elder, Anita Sanchez.
11:25:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Ooooo, technology of apology!!
11:25:35 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
All the world scriptures were written by men during Kali Yuga ~ described in India as the darkest and most troublesome times of the Four Great Yugas ~ each thousands of years long. According to tradition, the next Yuga is Satya, the most peaceful, pure time of the Yugas. Where Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace permeates life on Gaia.
What is your rendition of a scripture that would be adhered to in the coming Satya Yuga? Would there be more than one? This is something that will allow us to be the architects of the future, not its victims,” as Buckminster Fuller wrote. What say you?
In Service… KK
“The Center of the Universe is Everywhere.
The Circumference Nowhere.” ~ Black Elk ~
11:25:59 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Connie and Andrew, your Dance of Souls allows people to understand relationship dynamics in the bigger cosmic picture of why we are here, freeing us up to own our journey. Can you please post the link for everyone?
11:28:57 From Andrew Bailey to Everyone:
THE DANCE OF SOULS: ::https://thetrustfrequency.net/the-dance-of-souls/::
11:29:02 From Jøran Solberg to Everyone:
an outer apology solidifying the social perception might not aid in forgiveness.
11:30:36 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Amazing journey V & in articulate recall & healing response…you are a treasure trove!
11:32:08 From Dr Maura Conlon to Everyone:
Great question
11:32:10 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
Yes, great question Jim !!!
11:32:50 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
V - off topic, but great haircut!!!! :-)
11:33:26 From Jøran Solberg to Everyone:
will an apology make you forgive, or will it elevate the victim position?
11:33:35 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
This apology process is leading us to the place where utimately there is an understanding of the Conscious Loving nature of the Universe that leads us to that field Rumi speaks of “
Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing,
there is a field. I’ll meet you there.
When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about. Ideas, language, even the phrase “each other” doesn’t make any sense.”
11:33:53 From Robert Hayes to Everyone:
start with the Epstein client list
11:35:43 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Colin Tipping's book Radical Forgiveness also takes our understanding to another level like Dance of Souls.
11:35:56 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Popping off for work -thank you
11:36:20 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
Poor them !!! Nobody has taught them yet yet HOW to !!! With all the many centuries of heavy weight on their shoulders mistaking what "to be strong" is, they need to develop such a muscle because they don't even know where it's found in their body, emotions or mentality !!!
11:36:43 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
Yes Joran.
11:38:08 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
Wondering if you found acknowledgment of the story disorienting? How did you construct a new foundation?
11:38:11 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Radical Forgiveness says that at a soul level we have come to experience, having chosen our journey to work out lifetimes of abuse. We are part of the karmic agreement. Doesn't condone the behaviour but puts it in a different context of
11:38:14 From Galen Meyers to Everyone:
Thank you for this discussion. Resonating deeply, and also wanting to hear more about the relationship between patriarchy and the drama triangle (perpetrator/victim/rescuer))and the dangers of *demanding apologies, and perpetuating the cycle from any position within the cycle.
11:38:39 From Dr Maura Conlon to Everyone:
excellent book, The Myth of Normal
11:38:48 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Contex of understanding of how to free ourselves up as there is nothing outside ourselves. No separation
11:39:03 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
Look what Men are doing now with women in Iran !!! Do you think they have the capacity to apologize?
11:40:13 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
If we are ALL interconnected the process of forgiveness from horrid acts must have truth in the transformational process so we can utilize the power of deed/thought/action.
11:42:36 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
England now has a law that makes an apology something that CANNOT be used in convicting a person…
11:42:58 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
America!
11:43:02 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Bizarre
11:43:07 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Here's a daily vaccine that anyone can use to cure humans inhumanity to others:
Here’s a 15 minute video ~ PeaceMaker Meditation. ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo:: Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace. will reverberate throughout your day… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and ‘others.’ To be fully effective, this gets to be done periodically through the day, until well practiced to work wonders. On this Special Day, let’s start practicing this psycho-somatic-spiritual PeaceMaker Meditation.
11:43:32 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
I do feel pretty shitty this morning
11:44:03 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
“There’s nothing so Kingly as Kindness & nothing so Royal as Truth”
11:44:05 From Galen Meyers to Everyone:
Great talk from Sophy Banks - from the Inner Transition movement of the Transition Network - on patriarchy and trauma and regenerative cultural shifts… ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k9p8lDi068w::
11:44:10 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:
Our language is sexualized violence, too, like “suck it up”, and the f-word which means rape.
11:44:17 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
What a brilliant, passionate speaker of truth you are, V. You're a blessing to the world.
11:45:29 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
language so important. Time to create new lexicon that moves us out of patrarchy
11:46:10 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
Sure, they're not the only ones that opress women and Femininity but they're right now the most OBVIOUS !!!
11:47:11 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
YES !!!
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A person’s reach should exceed the grasp, or what’s a Heaven for? ~ Robert Browning
11:48:55 From Connie Baxter Marlow to Everyone:
Please listen to the recent HR with Natayo Weaselhead and how she transmuted horrific abuse into her transformation into the Essence of Unconditional Love: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEb4j_IviS4::
11:50:24 From Galen Meyers to Everyone:
What about the right to bear arms?!
11:50:54 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Ha, Galen
11:51:03 From Galen Meyers to Everyone:
😆
11:51:28 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
If we cannot intervene in Iran in any other mode, at least we could intervene by praying for a stop of that brutality and the opening toward an apology !!! I'm sure we're doing it individually and yet it would be wonderful to do it uniting as many people of the world as possible !!!
11:52:18 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
YES !!!
11:54:04 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
Connie, Natayo’s participation in the AfterChat added to my respect for her… You were there, but you can see that session here: ::https://communitymagic.org/public/HR_ChatPeople/2023-01-13%20Chatpeople%20HR%20Day%20610%20Gallery%201.mp4::
11:54:08 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Question: Is the basic behavior of Humans empowering kindness, the Dalai Lama’s religion, vs brutally the base of change without gender in the equation?
11:54:38 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Are we Peaceful People?
11:55:05 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
Women and men that support them !!! That's why is not only a matter about men and women, but like V and Jim say, it's about Patriarchy !!!
11:55:05 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Yes Dehanna
11:55:16 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
How do we stand with the women in Iran?
11:55:54 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
YES !!!
11:55:55 From Mark Weinstein to Host and Panelists:
Agreed, Dehanna
11:56:42 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
Ooooh, how do I understand you V !!! Where is the other people !!!
11:57:22 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
And yet, how can we be that OTHER PEOPLE for them women and supportive men in Iran!!!
11:57:28 From rosemary fitzpatrick to Host and Panelists:
We meet together to send our loving kindness to them and to their oppressors
11:58:45 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
Why don't we write lists with signatures from all over the world of and send it to Iran !!! ¿?
11:59:15 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Very Cool! 92nd street Y Rocks!
12:00:14 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Georg Boch(Direct Message):
I think that this is a good time to allow the participants to see both Jim and V together in Gallery mode.
12:01:25 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
::::::::::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::::::::::
Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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We’ll post this notice several times…
12:02:33 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Amazing Movement for Healing vaginas Everywhere!
12:03:09 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Blessings 🙏
12:03:16 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
¡¡¡ Fabulous V !!! THANK YOU for all your energy, commitment and generosity. It requires a lot of LOVE for TRUTH and humanity to do what you have done and keep on doing !!!
12:03:56 From amanda sebris to Everyone:
Thank you V you are a Prophet for our times - your energy presence words resonate the words of theologian Megan McKenna - “The prophet uses every resource at his or her disposal. Weeping, raging, crying out, criticism, blessings and curses, storytelling, singing, dramas acted out, possessions and even cities destroyed, food eaten or left to rot, ingenious set-ups and insults—all serve only one purpose: the conversion of heart and the doing of restitution to rebalance and heal the world again.” ❤️🙏❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
12:04:52 From Galen Meyers to Everyone:
Thank you! 🙏💜🌎☯️ “Cultural regeneration” is how I refer to an effective treatment for patriarchy In my perception, many efforts to “destroy the patriarchy” are also perpetuating it, as victims. There is a tremendous learning challenge of how to resist the harms without strengthening the drama triangle dynamics. (Perpetrator/victim/rescuer) No simple answers. This is very high level collective spiritual development work we are talking about, its not as simple as just standing up and “speaking truth to power” Although, of course, that is also necessary to wisely and skillfully, We didn’t get here just because not enough victims called out the violence and abuse. Much more collective learning is still needed. …We’re very ready for the challenge, though! Onwards! “Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that.”
― Martin Luther King Jr.
12:04:59 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
patriarchy dissolving as we speak
12:06:45 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
YES Galen!!!!!
12:06:53 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
WE get to RE-enculturate our society dropping the dross and creates beauty of caring and helpfulness.
12:07:01 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
YESS Janice
12:07:01 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
When the power of LOVE replaces the love of power the 🌎 will change!
12:07:22 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
PLEASE, check out the efforts of the UNIVERSAL FOUNDATION FOR HOLISTIC DESIGN. They’re educational re-enculturalation processes. It is a Socio-Economical/environmental/spiritual transition plan to get us back as nature. ::https://www.ufhd.ca::.
“With nature’s help, humankind can set into creation all that is necessary and life-sustaining.” ~ Hildegard of Bingen
12:09:01 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
Thank you Kurt :-)
12:10:03 From cate to Host and Panelists:
Brilliant oratory beautiful sister!
12:11:05 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
Congratulations on the book V. When and where we could get the book?
12:11:52 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
Thank you...If we don´t #reckion"...change is impossbile. Plus now address solidarity! . Grateful to be here
12:12:17 From Galen Meyers to Everyone:
Yes! Solidarity. Interbeingness. Cultural Regeneration emerges out of a collective shift in consciousness towards inter-beingness. 💗☯️
12:12:51 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
Oooops, look what I found looking to see if your book was already out !!!The Reckoning: Our Nation's Trauma and Finding a Way to Heal is the second book written by Mary L. Trump about her uncle Donald Trump
12:13:23 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
I'm sure this is not yours :-)
12:13:24 From Anasuya Isaacs to Everyone:
What is the name of your new book, V? When it be available?
12:13:33 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Mother Earth is the guide! Nature’s cosmology we are apart of intrinsically!
12:14:08 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
70? … is Beautiful !!!
12:14:11 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
AMEN !!!
12:14:16 From amanda sebris to Everyone:
❤️❤️❤️❤️
12:14:17 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Fab! 70! Blessings!
12:14:39 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
It always comes back to LOVE!
12:15:01 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
Beautiful. When we observe children...they are in "Awe" so often. I learn with them...just by observing them.
12:15:04 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
yes Galen!
12:15:05 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
YES, as we heal the pain, then forgiveness happens organically and instantly into a new level of freedom to be our Authentic Selves
12:15:11 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:15:13 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
LOVE
12:15:34 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
The 🌎became a better place when you were born! So much gratitude 🙏
12:15:42 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
To use the AfterChat link now and join when you’re ready, click the link and the next. When you are offered the Red (Leave and Join) Button, set it aside until you're ready.
12:16:06 From Meg Newhouse to Host and Panelists:
Thank you, V, I’m with you all the way. In resonance and solidarity
12:16:16 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:
THANKS A LOT V, JIM. and YES FOR THAT TOO
12:16:18 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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