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11:00:59 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Oh, nice nature background! Good morning Jim and all.
11:01:52 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:02:25 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
Russian spirituality on Day 516
11:06:11 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
Very interesting country! Deep.
11:09:33 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
I'm excited to learn about this, I love that you are bringing this to us. Thank you Jim.
11:09:54 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
That is so true. There is a core of mystery and myth deep down. Thanks for bringing this here, Jim.
11:10:12 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
Polymath indeed! Excited to have Gary with us today.
11:11:15 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Welcome, Gary. Thank you for coming.
11:12:10 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
So true, Gary, Bowery has transformed. Welcome 🙏
11:12:49 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Nice background Jim🌲
11:14:37 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Welcome - we are so glad you are with us today, Gary! SO interesting!
11:15:02 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Host and Panelists:
Please put both speakers on the screen so we don’t keep jumping back and forth.
11:17:18 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
Did he say that he had never been to Russia?
11:18:27 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
yes
11:19:12 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
Thanks, Jim.
11:20:17 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
::https://g-reddy.medium.com/nicholas-roerich-a-guide-ae650c67b78e::
11:20:49 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Thanks, Kat!
11:21:49 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
11:22:19 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
His museum in NYC: ::https://www.atlasobscura.com/places/nicholas-roerich-museum-2::
11:22:24 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Thanks, Kat!!
11:22:41 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Amazing Jim!
11:23:09 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
Glorious paintings!
11:23:39 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
Nicholas Roerich, also known as Nikolai Konstantinovich Rerikh, was a Russian painter, writer, archaeologist, theosophist, philosopher, and public figure. In his youth he was influenced by Russian Symbolism, a movement in Russian society centered on the spiritual. Wikipedia
11:23:50 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
11:24:16 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Wow, very cool paintings. Amazing.
11:24:36 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Ironic now that Russia is obliterating the cultural treasures/libraries of Ukraine.
11:24:51 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
slideshows of his paintings: ::https://www.roerich.org/museum-paintings-slideshows.php::
11:25:10 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Jim, which paintings (replicas) do you have?
11:25:41 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Shambhala::
11:25:45 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Beautiful 🖼
11:25:51 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Latin America is interested in his work now…
11:26:16 From Richard Page to Everyone:
There are great Roerich art galleries in Moscow and Manhattan, as well as adherents there teaching his Agni Yoga. He convinced Sec. of Agriculture Harry Wallace to send him to Mongolia, where he attempted to start an independent kingdom, embarrassing Pres. Franklin Roosevelt.
11:27:03 From Jack Lenchiner to Host and Panelists:
i videotaped Swataslov Rerikh son three times in India, gave video to the Rerikh museum in Newark!
jljustlove
11:27:07 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
::https://www.roerich.org/roerich-pact.php::
11:27:30 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://usa1lib.org/book/2528867/ddff98:: (Red Shambhala: Magic, Prophecy, and Geopolitics in the Heart of Asia by Andrei Znamenski 2011 PDF, 3.32 MB)
11:29:33 From Cynthia Bledsoe to Everyone:
Has Gary seen the future with regard to Russia precognitively in his dreams? Does he have practice suggestions for tapping precognitive dream ability and how does he think this operates?
11:30:36 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Harry Wallace, socialist, was the people’s choice to succeed Roosevelt as president. The powers running the Democratic Convention physically blocked Wallace from getting to the podium as the chairman banged the gavel ending nominations…and a different world ensued
11:30:36 From Jack Lenchiner to Host and Panelists:
not newark but New York, Museum
jljustlove
11:33:05 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
Yes, Kat Haber, it is ironic, however let's remember that it is Russia destoring Ucraine, not most Russians.
11:34:05 From Fred van Heukelom to Host and Panelists:
I like the coziness of friendship underlying the scholarship in this session, which also honours the specificity of the Russian culture. What I have not yet heart about is the ‘we-centric’ aspect of Russian Feeling of Being a Collectiveness. I understand that they want to move away from the ‘atomising’ aspect of capitalist Western
11:34:16 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Hurt cultures, hurt other cultures?
11:34:31 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
Good point, Kat!
11:37:02 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Feodorov: reviving the dead, Big idea, ancient dead, first ancestors, collect dust in space>>>birth of Soviet space program>>>Sputnik
11:38:04 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
Woah! That is fascinating. I just shared a meme yesterday "You come from dust and you will return to dust. That's why I don't dust. It could be someone I know."
11:38:35 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Karri-ann!! ;))
11:39:22 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Still is conquering for religious justifications?
11:40:14 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOk2b12ntpI:: (Nicholas Roerich: A collection of 261 works 26:38)
11:40:50 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Religious would create different world views that are believed, versus being subjeccted by force - very different process.
11:41:04 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
individual western rights vs Russian psyche community/collective >>> so individual finds rest/individuation
11:42:09 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://usa1lib.org/s/Oswald%20Spengler:: (ebooks)
11:42:49 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
me<WE
11:42:53 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
There's that "M-we" concept again 😊
11:43:04 From Fred van Heukelom to Host and Panelists:
Also when you read Dostoyevski [f.e. Brother Karamasov] there is a deep insight in the depth of character & psychology. . I see Russia as a Bridge between the deep identity with spirit of the East and the absolute blief in Individuality of the West.
11:43:27 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
I like ME Mother Earth!
11:44:17 From Stan for the Chatpeople to Everyone:
Fred van Heukelom to Host and Panelists (11:43 AM)
Also when you read Dostoyevski [f.e. Brother Karamasov] there is a deep insight in the depth of character & psychology. . I see Russia as a Bridge between the deep identity with spirit of the East and the absolute blief in Individuality of the West.
11:44:21 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
looking for truth, I find beauty…
11:44:29 From Richard Page to Everyone:
@Leo, thanks! Downloaded
11:44:57 From Jack Lenchiner to Host and Panelists:
innocent children, men and woman are being killed in the Ukrainian???
11:45:09 From Fred van Heukelom to Host and Panelists:
Do what ever you Like
11:45:40 From Jack Lenchiner to Host and Panelists:
how can this end,???
11:46:48 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Love that Kat!
11:47:38 From Jack Lenchiner to Host and Panelists:
ignoring what is going on???
11:47:41 From Stan for the Chatpeople to Everyone:
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With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
::::::::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::::::::
Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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11:47:48 From Amanda Faulkner to Host and Panelists:
… a bit off topic… but does the fact that permafrost covers 65% of Russia have anything to do with their expansion towards more fertile land?/the bread basket of the world? Are they conscious of the ecological crisis…?
11:48:00 From Fred van Heukelom to Host and Panelists:
There is also a naturalness in their love for dance. I like that what you say about this last sentence. I feel you are to nice about the Western
11:49:38 From Marion Welton-Delafield to Everyone:
What is the title of the book being mentioned?
11:49:49 From Fred van Heukelom to Host and Panelists:
With this deep mess, the West is in, we could be a little more critical of the Western Supervisiality., The Depth of Life. It is also obvious that the West has lost connection to mystery
11:49:53 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://www.britannica.com/topic/Slavophile::
Slavophile, in Russian history, member of a 19th-century intellectual movement that wanted Russia’s future development to be based on values and institutions derived from the country’s early history. Developing in the 1830s from study circles concerned with German philosophy, the Slavophiles were influenced greatly by Friedrich Schelling. The movement was centred in Moscow and attracted wealthy, well-educated, well-traveled members of the old aristocracy.
11:50:04 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
If the Russians are Spiritually adept, can you comment on the inner peace of an average Russian today? Living w/ their reality…
11:51:34 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Humm, this rich spiritual connection is something I also find in communities of color...
11:52:52 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YG0AvcMYyQM::
Dr. Marina Alexandrova's Signature Course "Tsars and Mystics" presents Gary Lachman's talk "The Silver Age. 1:20:46
11:54:06 From Jack Lenchiner to Host and Panelists:
what would this conversation be if Jim s neaborhood was bombed ???
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11:57:42 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://usa1lib.org/book/19309145/b56d41:: (The Fate of Man in the Modern World by Nicholas Berdyaev EPUB, 217 KB)
11:58:56 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
Manley P. HJall, Philosophical Society
11:58:58 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
11:59:06 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
Research
12:00:01 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
Manley P. Hall, Philosophical Research Society 400 + books, classic one it The Secvret Teachings of All ages.
12:00:49 From Fred van Heukelom to Host and Panelists:
Gurdjeff’s mystery school is still alive f.e. in the Netherlands
12:00:51 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
12:02:00 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
How I'd LOVE to come to After Chat and talk/explore this more! There are so many of my own roots in here. that said, I can’t…. :-(
12:02:12 From Jack Lenchiner to Host and Panelists:
is this about selling books?
It’s not the Russian people, just present leadership???
12:02:32 From Samantha Hirtler to Everyone:
Highly recommend Mandy Kahn’s Peace Class at Philosophical Research Society: ::https://www.eventbrite.com/e/peace-class-with-mandy-kahn-registration-190597200357::
12:04:35 From Fred van Heukelom to Host and Panelists:
The Russian also have spend a lot of interest and Use of para-psychological awareness & training
12:06:52 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
MaNDY DOES REALLY GOOD WORK.
12:07:08 From Jack Lenchiner to Host and Panelists:
ukrainian history next?
12:07:14 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://usa1lib.org/s/Vladimir%20Solovyov:: (ebooks)
12:08:29 From Jack Lenchiner to Host and Panelists:
??? aim aum
12:08:34 From sally annett to Host and Panelists:
Leo - your knowledge base is so awesome xxx hey guys x
12:09:04 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://usa1lib.org/book/3329608/6d8ed7:: (War, progress, and the end of history, including a short story of the Anti-Christ : Three discussions by Solovyov, Vladimir, Milosz, Czeslaw, Hoeller, Stephan 1990 EPUB, 319 KB)
12:09:45 From Anahata Pomeroy to Everyone:
Ukranians embodies some of these characteristics and now may be the land of the meeting of the two with the Slavic dominant character.
12:10:59 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://usa1lib.org/book/2664296/f24219:: (What was man created for ? : the philosophy of the common task : selected works by Nikolai Fedorovich Fedorov 1990 PDF, 7.04 MB)
12:11:00 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
I like your idea Anahata!
12:11:37 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Very interesting Anahata!!!
12:11:44 From Jack Lenchiner to Host and Panelists:
book selling time?
12:11:59 From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Everyone:
It is interesting that the idea of the “resurrection of the dead” is quite similar to the idea of Jesus’ resurrection from being crucified & also the Second Coming
12:12:01 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
has the longing fortranscendence always been part of the human experience?
12:12:33 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Maybe the ‘dead' are those who are not awake to the 'truth’…
12:12:48 From Jack Lenchiner to Host and Panelists:
aum aum aum?
12:13:11 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
I was thinking that too Kathryn, of all the zombies who currently live amongst us
12:13:20 From Jack Lenchiner to Host and Panelists:
aum
12:13:38 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
Yes, Karri-Ann
12:13:51 From Jack Lenchiner to Host and Panelists:
bye bye
aum
12:14:19 From Kathryn Alexander MA to Everyone:
And those who have turned from supporting LIFE to denying and resisting it. Much of my work.
12:14:34 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
What an amazing body of works is being brought before us - a veritable feast!!
12:15:28 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
Apathy/being a zombie is a way to survive trauma. It can be difficult to shift out of that state.
12:16:12 From Fred van Heukelom to Host and Panelists:
Yes I agree, Lachman, could definitely come back for another share of his journey and search
12:16:23 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:
Resurrection from the Dead..... The natural progression from this Like to the Next. Jesus showed this. His body was not material but spiritual. He walked through locked doors.
12:16:42 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:
this LIFE to the Next.
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