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10:46:36 From Georg Boch To All Panelists:

   https://community.ubiquityuniversity.org/posts/reverse-engineering-ufo-technology-could-solve-our-climate-crisiswritten-with-harriett-crosby

11:02:41 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Warm blessings to Everyone… Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!

11:02:59 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Happy birthday, Stan!!!

11:05:34 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   Welcome everyone to Day 820 of Humanity Rising with Vandana Shiva

11:06:14 From Stanley Pokras To Shannon McArthur and All Panelists:

   My birthday is Saturday. Thank you

11:08:41 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Oh, silly me… my mistake just makes it last longer!!!

11:12:04 From Katherine Augustine To Everyone:

   Thank you for all of your efforts and for preserving some of the bill, thus far!

11:14:59 From Josh Mitteldorf To All Panelists:

   Jim - be careful about your numbers. Commercial airliners go about 600 MPH. The sound barrier was first broken more than 80 years ago, not 50 years.

11:15:08 From Linda White- Newcastle, Maine To Everyone:

   Wow!  Grew up with the super sonic booms.  Hyper sonic is a whole other world.

11:15:21 From Hyacinth Oesterlin To Everyone:

   I  MUST FORWARD THIS!!!!!

11:16:34 From Charles Bensinger To Everyone:

   Hypersonic missiles are therefore unstoppable. Very scary.

11:17:05 From Josh Mitteldorf To All Panelists:

   US has used some of this advanced technology already. Judy Wood documented some of this technology on 9/11. Laser weapons, or directed energy, were used on Maui last summer.

11:17:11 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:

   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_number

11:17:13 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   Thanks Jim! for your superb updates! No mistake!  Shocking but now surprising that it's now down to Weapons vs Full Disclosure. Precisely what we are being warned about - MORE WAR, MORE DESTRUCTION, BILLIONS of $$$ on more global STAR WARS.  Tragic!

11:17:43 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:

   Boy o Boy we are spending all this time, intelligence and resources on death, and almost nothing on life. Hummm where will we end  up?

11:17:54 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   To READ what Jim has shared each day, please read and share https://sonlightsparklingonthewaters.weebly.com/jims-nuggets

11:18:08 From Hyacinth Oesterlin To Everyone:

   This is why the Aliens are making their presence known.....

11:19:11 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:

   thank you Shannon!

11:19:13 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:

   Which ethical framework? There are three that I know of….

11:19:24 From Mari Heart To Everyone:

   I feel extremely sad this leads to weaponry. When will we choose for Life?

11:19:48 From Charles Bensinger To Everyone:

   US Military apparently prefers building doomsday weapons rather than providing the world with fossil-free energy technology. Sad.

11:19:56 From Katherine Augustine To Everyone:

   In alignment is Marianne Williamson and a Dept of Peace…

11:20:10 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:

   https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprite_(folklore)

11:20:27 From Katherine Augustine To Everyone:

   Thank you, Jim - such amazing work and can only imagine … we are so grateful to you and your team.

11:20:34 From Carman Melendrez To All Panelists:

   Wise one’s have spoken about entity beings with whom they speak note that two other civilizations have failed and fallen away b/c of their user of technology of ill. They also say that it is unclear about this iteration of human civilization and their survival. Uncertain means, there is time to do the right thing with technology. Our entire civilization is at stake. What are the choices that we will make that are different from previous ones that did not ‘make it.

11:21:00 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   It is such a pleasure to welcome you, Vandana!!

11:21:00 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   Human insanity, arrogance, and aggression attached to and within a WAR PARADIGM,  More waste, destruction, and imperialism!

11:21:01 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:

   Hear hear, Jim’s astonishing message is so clear that we must think thoughts of Peace! Yes, Vandana Shiva, we welcome your wisdom!

11:21:23 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   Carman - Please set the blue “To” to “Everyone”

11:21:40 From Katherine Augustine To Everyone:

   Oh welcome back, Vandana Shiva and thank you for joining us today!!

11:22:05 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter To Everyone:

   Vandana Shiva, yes!

11:22:06 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Vandana’s participation on Humanity Rising can be found here: https://othernetworks.org/Vandana_Shiva

11:22:13 From Fred van Heukelom To All Panelists:

   It is mazing in how many fields you inform us Jim and how many wonderful people we get to know through Humanity Rising. Thank you! ! ! !

11:22:49 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   VS: we are not alone into the legislature & now elected’s would twist this info to turn into new intrstrument of violence as if we do not already have sufficient wars-on Earth- particular way of thinking, habituated, anything new find about the fact that we are not alone.

11:23:16 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:

   Once we understand who we are and our true potential we will celebrate together. Capitalism and patriarchy fear this the most. They fear exposure, not disclose. Of course we are not alone. ✨ The question is WHO ARE WE?

11:23:46 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   JG: mindset of using new tech for military, say something about human culture, proclivity to human violence, prone to choose the violent over nonviolent, Where does it come from?

11:23:51 From Carman Melendrez To Everyone:

   Wise one’s have spoken about entity beings with whom they speak who note that two other human civilizations have failed and fallen away b/c of their use of technology for ill, rather than good. They also have noted that it is unclear whether this iteration of humanity can move to the next phase. This tells me that we have choices to make. Will we use this technology to good or for ill?

11:24:08 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   Welcome Vandana!  Brilliant humanitarian! Amazing peace leader!  🌻🌻 🌻OH HOW I ADORE YOU!

11:24:09 From Tricia Fortina   ;  ) To Everyone:

   Picking up on what Shannon shared at the beginning!!!

        HAPPY BIRTHDAY STAN!!!!!

       How can we celebrate you?

   

        😇 👏 🙏 💚 🎂  🐝

11:24:10 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:

   ** they fear exposure, not disclosure ** that is

11:24:50 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   "Seeking security from the ground of Insecurity!" So true, well said!

11:25:54 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:

   vendana shiva, jim garrison and george lucas.... now that's a panel for the Truth of our time

11:26:02 From Jean Stevens To Everyone:

   Welcome Vandana, thank you for your great knowledge as a physicist and the knowledge of the current threat of a nuclear war.  Plus, your spectacular & sustainable agriculture work for a sustainable future on our precious Earth..

11:26:17 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   We seek stability in the whitewater of time through creating a raft of all our craft…

11:26:24 From Judy Hanmer To Everyone:

   Could we hear from Vandana about possible ways forward rather than getting stuck on violence?

11:26:42 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   We’re not stuck; lots of time...

11:26:57 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   VS: Do not universalize it, otherwise no Humanity Rising over these years, particular group seeking security over others, should lead to deeper relationship with peace, Earth Citizenship, Universal citizenship, basic insecurity that comes from strange way of thinking of ourselves in the world, Be like me or exterminated, treated Birds/bugs/plants-ROUNDUP telling plants you do not need to exist, now know enough about you to disrupt your metabolism, knowledge as power-macon, now knowledge from strange sense of lack of power, shared sense of distribution of power is taking something from you, use every knowledge not to enhance, rather to enhance extermination (WE BELONG TO EACH OTHER!)

11:27:27 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   Hi, Tricia… I’m actually wishing that people will join the Global Regeneration CoLab… I’d appreciate gifts to that program in my name. https://www.grc.earth/

11:27:44 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   JG: more separatenes>>>More complete power/control <<<rather than security and compassion, Gaza perceived need for total power

11:27:44 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:

   Isn’t ALL about Consciousness…when will our Love & interconnected ness Universally be the primary focus. THERE ARE NO OTHERS!

11:28:50 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Bertrand Russell’s work continues…

11:29:06 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   VS: Middle East-same thinking all land, all resources, your existence is a threat to me, VS was on Russell commission on Palestine, listened to witnesses Russel Bertram Tribual on Palestine: http://www.russelltribunalonpalestine.com/en/index.html

11:29:19 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:

   Nice, Stan!!

11:29:23 From Tricia Fortina   ;  ) To Everyone:

   I've notated that, Stan...

   Is this your actual birthday?

        Celebrate for a couple weeks, at least... !

11:31:20 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   My Birthday is Saturday. Today is my Daughter’s birthday. When she was first in our home, she was my birthday present.

11:31:46 From Danielea Castell To Everyone:

   This is why we need to communicate/partner with Nature Elders, like the Tree People. They are all committed to life and serving life - not death/control/dominance. (The Plant Kingdom has ‘invasive’ species and a few carnivorous beings - and perhaps we don’t yet understand their true purpose in Mother Earth’s vast and mysterious web of life.

11:33:10 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   Imagine a regenerative future, in harmony with nature, where even economic activity replenishes. This is the vision the Regenerators in the Global Regeneration CoLab (GRC) are working towards. https://www.grc.earth/

11:33:24 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:

   Nice Danielea

11:33:32 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   Yes! to Nature Elders and Tree Wisdom!  Yes! Mother Nature is our most brilliant, trustworthy teacher!  Regenerative Wisdom!🌹🌈🌻

11:33:41 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   VS: Taking oppressor as model of meaning and security, perpetuating the violence, Hitler was right, got the people wrong, The means were perfect rather condemning these means no place in humanity , adopted your one idea of justice/rights, deeper notion we are not alone, Gaza: Roman Catholic Priest wrote a poem came for Jews…Came for the Palestinian so internalized or stayed indifferent, where does it take humanity, always another group, response to violence>>>UNITY of the powerful organized around violence, same who want to keep citizens in the dark, coalition of powerful creating a solidarity of weapons, here’s a way to improve the world, not in the horrific metaphors: Ukraine/Palestine/Indigenous, connect the narratives, project into a future, come together standing together one planet/cosmos

11:34:44 From Lynn Brodlie To Everyone:

   It is always beneficial to 'see the bigger picture' to avoid incorrect judgment

11:34:56 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   JG: Connectivity across domains>>>COP28, CEO ADNOC President of COP using as organizing for oil deals, US wants to triple NUKES by 2050 by John Kerry the US Climate Czar, climate same mentality?

11:37:06 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   Arithmetic of genocide?  Insanity!

11:37:08 From Danielea Castell To Everyone:

   The Listening Field has a new initiative emerging since Oct 7 with the Olive Trees of Earth. These Tree People carry a medicine of peace and have reached out to partner with us. Learn more on Dec 18, 6pm ET in a session on Enlightening Our Water Together. https://globalfire.earth/

11:39:56 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   VS: When the climate/biodiveersity in 1992 in RIO 3 things  Larry Summers of chief economist of World Bank at the time, said there is not enough pollution in the south, economic sense, cheaper when they are sick and die less valuable humans so better economics>>>WE DO NOT ACCEPT THIS ARITHMETIC of GENOCIDE! Always seen climate disruption not linear, not predictable, disruption of Living Earth Gaia, then disruption is a metabolic disorder, chronic diseases, each looks different, at root each are the same disorder, destruction of water, disruption with relationship with living Earth, basic simple realities, treaties seen working together One atmosphere the other biosphere, changed over time biotech/oil industry disrupted both, legally binding emissions reduction, polluters were to make the changes 1% make 2/3 of emissions, amazing inequality, 600 private jets flew in this year double number of private jets, Copenhagen legally binding treaty was dismantled, by President Obama, now will voluntarily binding,

11:40:20 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   Polluters everywhere include the Weaponization of nearly everything.  Consider the "weaponization of weather!!!"  (Started during Vietnam war, and proclaimed by LBJ "Whoever controls the weather, controls everything"  Check it out at www.Geoengineering.org!

11:41:18 From Michelle Massi To Everyone:

   Blessings for this day with Vandana Shiva

   most conscious being for Soil not Oil and I cannot imagine a more comforting presence than VS  to be here in this time .

   I feel less fear , and  the audacity of hope for this threat , thank you Jim I feel safer just knowing  your commitment to   transparency  in a world in great need of truth no matter how fierce . Much love and appreciation .Unity with all . Earth dwellers we can do better than this . MM .No genocide , no climate disruption Gaia the living planet and all living  beings  trees and , plants above and below ground especially Earthworms !

11:41:48 From janice hall To Everyone:

   yes the Earth is living ... a living breathing being. She and all the Nature Beings who live upon her deserve a voice. We must earn to listen... yes to the Declaration on the rights of Mother Earth... but we need to not assume we know what they want ... we need to consciously listen to what they want and incorporate their requests and voices!!!!

11:41:50 From Danielea Castell To All Panelists:

   Vandana, a new initiative has emerged since the events of Oct 7 -  a conscious partnership of Humans and Olive Trees for Peace, initiated by a 4,000 year old Olive Tree in Palestine named Al Badawi. We are sharing what this Tree Elder has shared with us on Dec 18 as part of Enlightening Our Way Together https://globalfire.earth/

11:43:00 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   Bill Gates has gotta go! Prosecute, go to prison for life, and RESCIND ALL HIS LETHAL LAND PURCHASES!  LAND BACK!!!!! TO THE PEOPLE! He is a eugenics psychopath.  Gotta go!

11:43:47 From diana Winhill To Everyone:

   What Vanadana Shiva just said About the absurdity of Blocking out the sun was my Problem with the UFO Person, Stephen Bassett.

11:44:03 From Danielea Castell To Everyone:

   I find it so synchronous that more and more Humans are now communicating with our Nature Elders at the same time as more off planet information may come available  and used for greater opportunity for destruction.  Aligning with Mother Earth and our Nature kin is a choice for life.

11:45:24 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   Fake food and breast milk = eugenics!

11:45:27 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   VS: people think climate commitment of Paris climate accords, Copenhagen dismantled legally binding structure, Paris Dismantled Corporates minimized the delegates, Gates>>>Geoengineering, get the sun out instead of the pollution with more pollution to increase the roots of the problem-more pollution, Returned from Dubai Copenhagen wrote Soil and all these years 50% emissions come from energy intensive fertilizers/systems,strange declaration at Dubai “We can either have food or climate.” Mixing up two different systems, invisibilizing nature/food systems/80% of food comes from small farms, big proposals, Al Gore prepared a declaration on Food/CLimate?Resilience, processed food root of disease, current food system must be transformed, end declaration ends>>>Bill Gates proposal is fake food!!! Silicon Valley, never lived in everyday world, Impossible Burger, fake meat/breast milk, get humans out of the way, Climate Change and the Future of Food, if we relate to nature in a non violent way and increase biodivers

11:45:37 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:

   It is the biology that controls the climate. without it…….

11:45:47 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:

   Why doesn’t Vendana have to wear eye glasses…..Love it.

11:46:14 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Good nutrition, I expect...

11:47:23 From diana Winhill To Everyone:

   Natural eye exercise❣️

11:47:46 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   I believe humanity was created to help Mother Earth care for Herself.

11:47:56 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   We are Her Hands…

11:47:56 From diana Winhill To Everyone:

   What was that woman's Name Nandana just mentioned?

11:47:59 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:

   The desire to really see and not be secduced (sp) into ‘ I should not see’ IMO is why she doesn’t wear glasses.

11:48:10 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   EARTH CARE IS OUR WORK!  Yes, GREEN LEAVES work the magic! More bio-diversity!  Imagine reclaiming regenerative earth practices = pure beauty!  Pure abundance!  Deep connections among all peoples!  PLENTY!🌻

11:48:21 From diana Winhill To Everyone:

   Also correct, Kim!!

11:48:32 From Hyacinth Oesterlin To Everyone:

   Stop cutting down Rain Forests!!!  TREES are Earth´s lungs

11:48:48 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   Mother Nature

11:48:56 From diana Winhill To Everyone:

   Whoops, I mean Kathryn (eyes)!

11:49:07 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:

   Earth has technology - she is creating microbes to eat plastic, and nuclear waste.

11:49:12 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   Vandana - please, let the women of the world write a new “Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth” Buckminster Fuller did a good thing with his version. But the world needs an “Operating Manual” written by Women.

11:50:00 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   Mother Natures meticulous technologies!  VANDANA, THANK YOU FOR TAKING CARE OF OUR ORGANIC SEEDS!

11:50:17 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   VS: Stay within 1.5 degrees, 10% of farms can neutralize the damage , create more food, livelihoods, beautiful Earth and solve climate problem, Jacqueline (?) calculated to relate it to living processes in Earth, green leafed power, not into despair, rather Earth care is our work, Living Earth, when we stop the harm, over evolutionary time, from 290 to 13, from 98% to 3%, work with this power, >>>Biodiversity/photosynthesis, same issue, solve by relaying we are all connected and not alone, plants, soil, our work is respectfully, living earth, too much guided by raw material living dead, only we have the intelligence for this technology, miraculous technology-photosythesys will solve this, (NATURE KNOWS) future food financing will lead to solidarity, each have right to food rights and be respected, talk of innovation as only for extraction, working on seeds, not Monsanto’s, Bill Gates invited 160 crops-NO Take existing plant and bread, COMMONS OF THE SEED, 25 seed banks, Philippines, potatoes in Peru,

11:50:56 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Gates “invented” 160 new crops. NOT!

11:51:04 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:

   Propoganda has created a brainwash….  Bill Gates is almost brainwashed into his belief system also….as winner takes all.  The Giving Pledge  needs to be reversed.  We need to use that Slogan and make it The Giving Pledge for Earth from Humanity.

11:51:07 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   VS: Gates is today’s pirates, takes the common and puts his monopolizing brand on it, VS watched what Gates was doing in Paris, now BG is all over the place in Dubai

11:51:47 From Antonia Gentile To Everyone:

   Who has allowed Bill Gates to purchase all this land? Is it the Department of Agriculture? The White House? Both?

11:52:05 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Antonia, money allowed him.

11:52:14 From Jean Yzer To Everyone:

   Could we please ask Vandana Shiva to have an audience with Sultan al- Jaber? 🙏 I think he would respect her knowledge. I think they could speak to each other.

11:52:16 From diana Winhill To Everyone:

   He's only hailed as a god because of propaganda

11:52:18 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:

   Right, Shannon

11:52:23 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:

   Patriarchal blasphemy

11:52:24 From Leon Dsouza To Everyone:

   Vandana can you talk about your views on the benefits of technology in agriculture and leveraging technology as humans for the good of the planet and also thoughts on transhumanism

11:52:34 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   JG: power elite try to figure out how to weaponize the cosmic fake food to replace photosynthesis, hailed as a demagogue, super intelligent Bill Gates controlling most vaccines and now food, buying up agribiz owned by or interactive with BG tech in world view divorced from reality at any level,

11:52:39 From Vav Simon To Everyone:

   How do we stop this craziness? what can we as individuals do?

11:52:52 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   QUESTION by Leon Dsouza @ #:52 above

11:54:19 From Swaha US To All Panelists:

   Please, please, please make this widely available to EVERYONE for free!

11:54:36 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   Bill Gates also invented the word: "PHILANTHROCAPITALISM"  Know this: it means the "philanthro" funds do NOT need to be exposed, so it's all "DARK MONEY"  Gates made BILLIONS on funding the PLAN-demic!  Yes, on killing and disabling MILLIONS OF PEOPLE WORLDWIDE!  Thing about this!  Prosecute!!!  Eliminate ALL the psychopaths!

11:55:34 From Michelle Massi To Everyone:

   Thanks  for the Jim  daily  mail Shannon , appreciate the link , so helpful ❤️

11:55:48 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   Fake food will also have nano particles embedded in it.  Lethal vaccines, anyone???

11:55:50 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Great to have you along, Michelle!!

11:56:24 From diana Winhill To Everyone:

   Horribly correct, Kim

11:56:36 From Eden Peart To All Panelists:

   Local food based currencies?

11:56:55 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   VS: food is what is the currency that connects us, same processes lead to damage of our health, not separate from Earth, farming without farmers, assumes farming is like war, only after Htiler, food connected to what is happening in violent militaries thinking of killing in Gaza, based on fiction, take food instead of nourishment, now need fake food, everything need food, cellular multiplication, feed stock will need 5 times more food, emissions, waste of external used>>15 times emissions, evidence is so clear, health/climate/inequality crises will be worse, BG will force us to eat fake food for what is bad for us, need more coverage, December 10th day dedicated for food, recorded video, negotiating, but real stuff is happening with Bill Gates $2.5 billion in shaping tech-not soil/biodiversity/health of children, resilience now is risk reduction of capital investors, ontological shift, fake news+Fake Food>>>Fake health for humans

11:57:00 From Hilde Paz To Everyone:

   What is their agenda? To kill us off??

11:57:38 From Mari Heart To Everyone:

   Do not buy, do not comply with this agenda, resist, persist, break the chains!

11:57:48 From diana Winhill To Everyone:

   Hilde, the Agenda is eugenics

11:57:56 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   JG: Earthcare, we the people for humanity to rise, animate social/citizen action, What can we do to contribute to manifest at critical level

11:57:58 From Charles Bensinger To Everyone:

   Global population reduction?

11:58:10 From Hyacinth Oesterlin To Everyone:

   B.G. thinks Earth is over populted

11:58:23 From Mari Heart To Everyone:

   Yes, create cultures of care!

11:58:43 From Hyacinth Oesterlin To Everyone:

   over populated.  Too many people.

11:58:49 From Charles Bensinger To Everyone:

   Make more room for the uber-wealthy?

11:58:51 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   Let’s form the editorial team for the Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth. I would like Vandana to be the Editor in Chief for the new manual written from a divine feminist perspective.

11:58:54 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:

   I was helping Susan Butcher- Iditerad racer with her illness in the 90’s and lived in Bill Gates’ house in Seattle…its then that I got to see the palace in Bellvue with digital art everywhere showing the colonization of humanity thru art.  I was not somehow affected by his fame- but my boss G Lucas warned me of his place in the cosmic force and we would never join the Giving Pledge.  I also saw his efforts to offer a lot of experimental drug use for Susan Butcher and she literally turned into a bloated green being before passing away.

11:59:14 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   Resilience is now "capital risk reduction"  Seriously GREEDY, if it were not so insane, stupid, and ridiculous.  EARTH CARE is the WAY, and the ONLY WAY!  🌻🌈🌹 ALL weaponization is an ASSAULT ON THE DEEP FEMININE, AND MOTHER EARTH.

11:59:31 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   The Agenda is power over. They do not want to kill us. They want to have the power over us so they have all the power.

11:59:41 From Mari Heart To Everyone:

   Melt frozen hearts, meld hearts with the Heart of Earth, with the Heart of the Cosmos, Spirit🙏🏼

11:59:47 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:

   @Stan- yes.  That will be your birthday present.

12:01:10 From diana Winhill To Everyone:

   Shannon, they also want to kill People:  eugenics.

12:01:28 From Michelle Massi To Everyone:

   can you please post the link for the after chat  Stan . or Shannon if you would be so kind . many thanks !  Michelle M

12:01:29 From Danielea Castell To Everyone:

   3,006 % more Fungi just by giving Soil what it needs. A not trying to control the rest.

12:01:38 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   Soil is SACRED!  Soil is SEXY!  I LOVE REGENERATIVE SOIL and the DELICIOUS FOOD IS GROWS! Fungi is pure abundance and wisdom!

12:01:53 From Katherine Augustine To Everyone:

   So sorry I have to leave but look forward to listening to the rest later - great discussion, thank you Jim and Vendana 🙏

12:02:12 From Michael Putz To Everyone:

   Biggest threat to humanity is transhumanists who seek to biologically and computationally modify humans to create a new race of “Supermen”. It won’t end well.

12:02:17 From Mari Heart To Everyone:

   Thank You for sharing your personal experience Sarita

12:02:19 From Danielea Castell To Everyone:

   Earth and the Nature Elders are literally standing by to assist us - we only need to ask.

12:02:50 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   VS: Care is the relationship that flows from awareness that Earth systems are living and known g what it is that we care about in relationship with, not weaponize ag, avoids arrogance of nature does not know, we will fix here, engineering mentality disrupts our relationship of care turns us into dominators, RATHER, take care of the ecosystem> soil organisms need food, fertilizers rent food, organic soil health improves not with fertilizer, creation is about care, food to soil, not pieces, give organic matter, take what they need and multiply, takes nutrients to plant, more plant cares fro it and gives more food, more fungi increases 5 times-no other tech gets there, give care/love, save the seeds, do the right thing for the soil 3,600 % more CARE FOR THE WHOLE DISTRIBUTES WHAT IS NEEDED DOES NOT OVERDOSE!!! JG: no overdosing in nature, VS: Care is the currency of living earth, solve by turning to the soil celebrations, human derived from humus-From the soil JG: out of the dust you are born,

12:02:58 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   Thank you, Sarita. Let’s ask her together… All people of good heart should nominate Vandana to be the Editor In Chief of a new “Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth”

12:03:03 From Mari Heart To Everyone:

   Spirit elders, the Invisibles are present. They guide when invited.

12:03:26 From Mari Heart To Everyone:

   🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

12:03:27 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   VS: share Earth/universe, NOT only the violent/greedy fully human, objects to be dominated, who are we what are we here,

12:03:30 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:

   As the banks collapse and they are now……we must wait for this blowup- when humans like rats…scurry to figure out where security exists.

12:03:31 From Mari Heart To Everyone:

   💖💖💖💖💖💖💖

12:03:44 From Vav Simon To Everyone:

   Thankyou Vandana and to Jim for organising this

12:03:45 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   With Love...          

               Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

                       You can join the After Chat here:       

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               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

                            ..oOo..

12:03:48 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:

   She is a treasure!!!!

12:03:54 From Michael Putz To Everyone:

   What a wonderful summary

12:03:56 From Gerri Sweeney To Everyone:

   Amen Jim, she is a treasure

12:03:58 From Mari Heart To Everyone:

   Vandana You are so magnificent! 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼

12:04:07 From Leon Dsouza To All Panelists:

   Thank you for your dedication and PATIENCE Vandana!! I have followed you for years

12:04:07 From Michael Putz To Everyone:

   Care is the food of living systems

12:04:10 From Danielea Castell To Everyone:

   Shedding our anthropocentric viewpoint. Yes, look to Snake for lessons in shedding. Everything we need is here. Only our willingness is required. A coalition of enough Human People to turn their attention away from what/who does not serve life - towards those who do.

12:04:12 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:

   Humus = humans!  Yes, we are EARTH!  She is our MOTHER!  WE MUST RETURN TO GROUNDED CARE!  HANDS AND HEARTS IN THE SOIL!  Food + Care = Pure Harmony +Abundance!  Vandana is a global treasure!

12:04:13 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:

   Redo Jack and Jill books to Jim and Vendana

12:04:15 From janice hall To All Panelists:

   Yes Dr. Shiva, the earth systems are living and again as I said, we need to incorporate Nature Elder voices in this dialogue. I encourage you to connect with Danielea Castell . Her Listening Field Initiative has opened a window for the Nature Elders on the planet to share their voices  so we no longer have to assume. Many of us across the planet are engaged in active dialogue with our Nature Elders - water, tree, rock, soil etc. and now the Olive trees of the planet with their ancestral and current messages of peace that are so very necessary for us to listen to at this critical juncture

12:04:15 From Mari Heart To Everyone:

   Awomen!

12:04:18 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   With Love...          

               Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

                       You can join the After Chat here:       

               ::::::::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::::::::   

               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

                            ..oOo..

12:04:22 From Kat Haber To Everyone:

   JG of VS: Care is the currency of living systems, food is the currency of life, articulate so many domains in such compassionate communication, honor as a world treasure,

12:04:27 From Gerri Sweeney To Everyone:

   The indigenous grandmothers of the Earth should be the only seed keepers

12:04:29 From Michael Putz To Everyone:

   Food is the currency of life

12:04:30 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:

   With Love...          

               Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

                       You can join the After Chat here:       

               ::::::::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::::::::   

               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

                            ..oOo..

12:04:30 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:

   Beautiful!!!

12:04:31 From janice hall To Everyone:

   Yes Dr. Shiva, the earth systems are living and again as I said, we need to incorporate Nature Elder voices in this dialogue. I encourage you to connect with Danielea Castell . Her Listening Field Initiative has opened a window for the Nature Elders on the planet to share their voices  so we no longer have to assume. Many of us across the planet are engaged in active dialogue with our Nature Elders - water, tree, rock, soil etc. and now the Olive trees of the planet with their ancestral and current messages of peace that are so very necessary for us to listen to at this critical juncture

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