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== [[Leo's Links & Notes Page HR Day 547|Leo's Links & Notes for HR Day 547]] ==
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10:56:59 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
00:02:20 Franka Strietzel: What was Kat‘s question?
We see and hear yopu
10:57:26 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Yes it is great fun!!!
10:57:41 From Tricia Fortina ; ) to Everyone:
I hear you from Ventura CA ; ) Fun listen in...
10:57:47 From Diane Carol Mark to Everyone:
You're live :)
10:58:01 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Yes you are LIVE! Lovely!
11:03:08 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Warm and loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:04:05 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
Good morning Shannon and all from Paradise North in sunny White Rock BC
11:04:32 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Dear friends, I’m attending a workshop offered by Anneloes Smitsman. I’m capturing the Chat, but will not be interactive till about 30 minutes before this session ends. I’ll look forward to seeing you in the AfterChat.You can join the After Chat here:
Hello from Brasil...It shows as Maria...But you can call me Patricia. Delicate moment in Brasil as well...elections upcoming weekend...sunday...so have to be very presente!!
11:06:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Good morning, Patricia. Glad you’re present!
11:07:49 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
Dear Jim, you get better and better at the introduction of the meditation! Thank you so much for continuing this practice.
11:08:55 From Michael Nagler to Shannon McArthur, Host and Panelists:
Shannon, I have a beef message for everyone, when there’s a chance before begin
11:09:24 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
I have no control! Jim's the one to ask...
11:10:13 From Jim Garrison to Host and Panelists:
Check with Tom
11:10:55 From Carman Melendrez to Host and Panelists:
I love starting my day with your meditations, Jim and team!!!
11:11:40 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Is there a link where the image of the at card is available for download?
11:11:44 From Kat Haber to Host and Panelists:
The sound track for the breathing Xcercise please?
11:11:47 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
art card
11:12:10 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Good request, Rita!! It's beautiful, isn't it?
11:12:47 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
I watched it yesterday. I found it very helpful
11:15:04 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Beautiful!
11:15:11 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
Here's the youtube link to the breathing. Unfortunately it comes with an ad at the beginning.: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2qCSu75cOk::
11:15:40 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
It is so refreshing here, Jim, with no advertising!
11:16:09 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Thank you Michael! 3rd Harmony is in this Film Forum below!
Here’s a welcome practice video with Coherent Breathing for the I AM PEACE Film Forum in Tunja, Colombia, Oct3-7.
::https://youtu.be/jYjBQrbVNdA::
::http://gamip.org/elementor-1283/::
Free pre-screening trailers! Create a watch party! Pass it on!
🙏🌎☮️😘
11:16:18 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
I've created an audio version of it so eliminate the ads. I do the breathing every day and can testify that it is a very powerful practice.
11:18:17 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Blessings to ALL in Iran🙏☮️🌎
11:30:38 From Kat Haber to Host and Panelists:
@Jim Thanks for the bells! May the tight time we find the world in be now ready to ease into peace, especially in our own hearts. Brave hearts unite.
11:32:45 From Chris Mentzel to Host and Panelists:
That was a great reminder of what Jesus taught and what original Christianity lived. Thank you.
11:39:15 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://francescapo.wordpress.com/::
11:39:33 From Jim Enwright to Everyone:
Thanx
11:40:28 From Francesca Po to Everyone:
Thanks for listening everyone! I’m going to have to hop off soon but please do stay in touch via Instagram @fancy_po and my website www.francescapo.wordpress.com 🙏🏽
11:40:50 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:
11:50:22 From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Everyone:
In alignment with today's theme, I humbly offer a reference to an article wrote awhile ago about moving “beyond dogma.” Here’s the link: ::https://www.academia.edu/65966480/Beyond_Dogma_The_Role_of_Evolutionary_Science_and_the_Embodiment_of_Archetypal_Energies::
11:51:35 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Interesting...
11:51:40 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
If war is never justified, is NATO justified in preparing to defend Ukraine & itself from Russia? The how matters in relating to EARTH for climate responses now. Is the same true regarding our security?
11:52:26 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
Great query KAT. TYG
11:53:52 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Rather than a common enemy, how might we evolve to seeking a common ally?
11:54:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Yes, excellent questions, Kat
11:54:19 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIC580SBM7M:: (1:01:03 The Catholic Church: Centering Nonviolence? | Marie Dennis · JustFaithMinistries Jan 18, 2022)
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w29FialWiBQ:: (1:01:24 The Catholic Church Chooses Gospel Nonviolence - Marie Dennis · Christ the King Catholic Church Nashville Oct 26, 2021)
In what ways can local, state, and national policies shift the world powers from the toxic framework of violence put in place by the Doctrine of Discovery?
11:54:41 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
Yes, Kat….dilemmas we’ve landed on ourselves…
11:55:19 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
I do that mimetic thing with all the books mentioned. I can’t possibly read them all
11:55:57 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Here is a TEDxVail talk on frenemies: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBoOEbwgStw::
11:58:19 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Yuck scapegoating, common glue that bonds us together ;( lets banish Scapegoating, let scapegoating vanish into higher levels of personal responsibility and collective integrity.
I view the willingness of Abraham to sacrifice Isaac as the foundational patriarchal terror: even your own father will kill you to abide by hierarchical loyalty
12:06:37 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
This has been very interesting. Thank you, Adam
12:07:25 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
As you know, in the Abraham/Isaac near death experience, God provides a scape goat in the bushes to sacrifice instead the son!
::https://archive.org/details/inlibrary?query=Rene+Girard:: (ebooks to borrow online)
12:10:54 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Europe in its formation used slavery for economic structuring and domination. It is part of the history being replayed in Ukraine. The Xtermination of Ukrainian culture. I commend Timothy Snyders Yale History classes on Ukraine. ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36XiKhamtQo::
12:10:56 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Isaac/Abraham were the inspiration for the word “scapegoat”
12:13:49 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
I miss Francesca... will she not join the conversation? Did I miss something?
12:13:55 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
What Michael just says goes with what I read in TOUCHING THE JAGUAR by John Perkins & the working of the pachamama Alliance
12:14:01 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Instead of a scapegoat, how might we communicate within ourselves from the perspective of a G.O.A.T.? Greatest Of All Time
12:14:13 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
Fancesca had to leave to teach a class.
12:14:43 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I'm so sorry. I'm glad to have heard what she had to offer.
12:14:52 From Michael Nagler to Everyone:
Aida et al: Francesca had to go, probably to teach
Is this conversation going to acknowledge Catholicism’s violation of the Indigenous peoples and lands of this continent?
12:18:34 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
Apologies if it did already, and I missed it
12:19:13 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
how do we avoid scapegoating the Russians or the United States for that mtter
12:20:37 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
May your awareness, Jim, roll out across the land and clear the air.
12:20:47 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
Militarism fueled by the profit-making military industrial complex.
12:21:09 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
The United States and NATO are influenced by the Millitary Complex who demand to have an enemy as a way to continue the gravy train of weapon sales.
12:22:16 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
Over half of US federal budget goes to military spending which is NOT AUDITED! huge amounts of fraud.
12:23:21 From ann cole to Everyone:
Fierceness is different from Violence. I think there is unclarity again in definitions. The two hands of nonviolence is critical here.
12:23:38 From Karen Ball to Host and Panelists:
Don't forget Walter Wink and the myth of redemptive violence
12:23:58 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
All interrelated without ourselves
12:24:03 From Marie Dennis to Everyone:
Absolutely. The Catholic Church has been responsible for tremendous violence for centuries based on the Doctrine of Discovery, on the exclusion of women and so many others, on power-over relationships and beyond. For the Catholic Church to center nonviolence would have to entail a radical accounting for past harms and a significant shift in internal Church relationships.
12:24:04 From ann cole to Everyone:
Violence is killing another human being, the animals, the earth.
12:24:18 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
"To be passive is to let others decide for you. To be aggressive is to decide for others. To be assertive is to decide for yourself." (Edith Eger, The Choice)
12:24:21 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Wow! That’s ALLOT to digest, Jim!
12:25:09 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
I’m not a purist but I have seen how the “armed struggles” for liberation in my time have themselves lead to tyranny (Nicaragua, for instance) The use of violence is character changing. Early Christians had to go through years of penance after being in the military.
12:25:19 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
Yes Marie…the Doctrine…..and Treaty’s still not honored
12:26:48 From Anahata Pomeroy to Everyone:
Early in the war in Ukraine we had a news clip of a Russian soldier taken by Ukrainians and a woman comes up and says, ‘have you called your mother to tell her you’re alive?“ They reach for a phone and ask him his Mother’s number. We see his tears as he speaks to his mother. What a beautiful scene. At the beginning of the war we saw the unity Ukrainians feel for their brothers. The news of the war is not giving us the lessons we were getting from Ukraine.
12:27:00 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Well, isn’t all our actions predicated by intention?
12:27:28 From Michael Nagler to Everyone:
I discuss this question in my book, The Search fora Nonviolent Future
12:27:31 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
What does Marie say about all of this
12:27:33 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Ahimsa is aligned with intention?
12:28:24 From ann cole to Everyone:
There is great courage and bravery in the power of nonviolence.
12:28:32 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Didn’t Einstein say he was a pacifist & would fight for that!
12:29:35 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:
My yoga teacher referred to Ahimsa as "non-cruelty or non-harm"
12:29:36 From Michael Nagler to Dehanna Rice, Host and Panelists:
Yes but what makes an act violence is the intention to HARM, not to reduce harm with force, if necessary
12:29:40 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
The chats and recording of this and the AfterChat is available on ::http://otherNetworks.org::, thanks to Stan Pokras.
12:30:02 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
Some anthropologists believe that sacrifice started when humans changed from prey to predators, and felt sorry for taking the life of the animal, felt connected to that life from that experience of being prey. When we were more in tune with our “animal” relatives.
12:31:02 From ann cole to Everyone:
It is a myth that nonviolence is pacifism from my point of view
12:31:11 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
I believe that the Ukrainian and Russian mothers have the power to stop the violence
12:31:58 From Tina Michel to Everyone:
AMY, that's very interesting about the anthropological origins of sacrifice!
12:32:25 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
PREVENTING VIOLENCE. This program, ::http://LivingValues.net:: has over 90% reduction in violence in a Thai Refugee Camp within 2 years! The woman who developed it then went to Johannesburg, RSA and designed a program for street people - similar results!
It’s free, the Living Values Education Program: The first two Values instructed are LOVE and PEACE. All the other Values are generated from these. Thus affecting ALL life on our planet in every day.
Here's more on three quality character development programs: Character Inclusion for Regenerative Societies, Diane Tillman, Daniel Allen. ::https://youtu.be/08sYrYfNvnw:: a Humanity Rising Global Solutions Summit program produced by the Peace Lab.
"Let virtue lead the way, and every step will be safe.” ~ Seneca
12:32:26 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Many mothers are getting arrested in Irkutsk, Russia now to protect their boys and men.
12:32:37 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
PARENTING is awesomely effective in opening our hearts and expanding them. Read and apply: Nurturing with Love and Wisdom, Disciplining with Peace and Respect: Mindful Parenting, by Diane Tillman. Have the Living Values practices taught is schools… For 2 minutes listen to this: ::https://youtu.be/A7VQHNd_MKE::
Developing and applying quality values is vitally important for all levels of society.
12:33:10 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
Some Global Ethics Links...
> ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZZDsKyOEUo:: (2:33 Global Ethic in 2 minutes · Stiftung Weltethos May 22, 2018)
> ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMeGBZ3TS4E:: (4:05 Global Ethics Introduction · Global Ethics Solutions Aug 3, 2021)
> ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCZh4t3qLxA:: (8:23 Global Ethics Introduction · Global Ethics Solutions Jun 25, 2020)
> ::https://www.globethics.net/home:: (a network of teachers and institutions with the vision to embed ethics in higher education)
> ::https://www.carnegiecouncil.org/initiatives-issues/global-ethics-day:: (Carnegie Council is calling on individuals, schools, businesses, governments, nonprofits, etc. to join us on October 19, 2022 in taking action to empower ethics.)
12:33:12 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
> ::https://www.tandfonline.com/journals/rjge20:: (Journal of Global Ethics)
> ::https://www.eolss.net/sample-chapters/C14/E1-37-02-04.pdf:: (GLOBAL ETHICS by Nigel Dower UNESCO)
You know that when we take some responsibility for being the Peace where we are, we are then models for others to follow ~ the ripples begin with us!
Here’s a 15 minute video on a psycho-somatic-spiritual PeaceMaker Meditation. ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo:: Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace. will reverberate throughout your day (in your home language)… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and all our Relations.
Groups are forming together or through teleconference to bring more Peace to our home planet. Together we fly more easily ~ like the two wings of a bird…

The Peace LAB/IMAGINED practices/programs dramatically reduces violence, recidivism, and wars… We get what we focus upon. Let's share our ideas and expertise.
Be a Member of Peace LAB/IMAGINED by taking action! Meditating, smiling, sharing Love...
"Because you are alive, everything is possible."
Thích Nhat Hanh
12:33:14 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
What is the intuition we need at the moment we need to be courageous in the face of the fullest forms of truth from all dimensions?
12:33:42 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Right, your hurting oneself
12:34:15 From George Cappannelli to Host and Panelists:
I am confused, Jim, by the position that past violation of political agreements justifies the gross atrocities being committed by Putin against both the Ukrainian people and his own and indeed against the wellbeing of the world, I feel this is at best a false defense. His issues should be resolved in world bodies.
12:34:26 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Yes, love aches in violence.
12:34:35 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Yea, & when Gandhi was shot he said to the shooter I forgive you
12:35:12 From m monk to Everyone:
When animals are so successful in evolution that they outbreed their resources they become violent towards each other
12:35:20 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
maybe that image is being constructed from these discussions
12:35:34 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
The ethic could be “We are One; treat each other as such.”
12:35:44 From Sande Hart to Host and Panelists:
Yes kat! Indeed, what is our motivating imperative, behavior and impulse to respond with responsibility? How do we prepare ourselves for these moments before we need to respond? It's our responsibility and our privilege to work on that.
12:35:45 From ann cole to Everyone:
We are not animals.
12:35:45 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
Please come to the AfterChat and share with dedicated learners and solvers through MasterMinding... 🙂 TYG for this inclusive sharing.
12:35:57 From Rachael Bliss to Host and Panelists:
Quality of presentation is cutting into richness of conversation.
12:35:59 From ann cole to Everyone:
We evolved into human consciosness
12:36:19 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
Sande Hart to Host and Panelists (12:35 PM)
Yes kat! Indeed, what is our motivating imperative, behavior and impulse to respond with responsibility? How do we prepare ourselves for these moments before we need to respond? It's our responsibility and our privilege to work on that
12:36:23 From Tina Michel to Everyone:
Beautiful ethic, Shannon!❤️
12:36:33 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Yes! What clothing are we going to where as Human
12:36:46 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Is our mountain of shemanity now in a moment of volcanic eruption?
12:37:11 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
The myth is that violence is effective.
12:37:33 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Sande Hart, Host and Panelists:
Please set the blue button to “Everyone.”
12:38:02 From Candy Leonard to Everyone:
And we are teaching violence as the solution to future generations as we speak
12:38:04 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
It’s ALL about HEART INTELLIGENCE
12:38:06 From Tina Michel to Everyone:
Right! Important question: Does violence really work?
AND what to we mean by "work"?
12:38:15 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
For another time a conversation including the story of the Great Law of Peace, Hiawatha and the Peacemaker convince leaders of the Five Nations to literally bury the hatchet.
12:38:53 From Adam Ericksen He|Him to Everyone:
Excellent, Tina! What do we mean by “work”? Great question.
12:38:56 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
No headlines or media coverage for non-violence
12:39:17 From Adam Ericksen He|Him to Everyone:
Excellent point, Jude.
12:39:23 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
Peace building is boring, violence is adventurous, Xiting, a way for males to prove up their manliness. Now we have female soldiers. Women in combat, does this change the paradigm sufficiently?
12:39:44 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Exactly! Climate is the assault
12:39:46 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
AWAKEN THE DREAMERS! as Pachamama.org Alliance illuminates this delimea. WE get to CHANGE THE DREAM.! Pachamama Alliances Vision statement, Create an environmentally sustainable, spiritually fulfilling, socially just human presence on Mother Earth. :)
The Awaken the Dreamer, Change the Dream 2 hour online course is free: ::https://landing.pachamama.org/awakening-the-dreamer-2-hour-online-course::. Pachamama.org Alliance
12:39:48 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
YES, WE NEED TO COOPERATE RIGHT NOW.
12:40:02 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Community changes the🌎
12:40:13 From ann cole to Everyone:
We need tools do deal with conflict nonviolently as we work with each other
12:40:38 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Thank you all! Excellent exchange.
12:41:02 From michael coles to Everyone:
Peace work can be compared to Aikido.
To be effective one must go far beyond merely dealing with spoken input. Ambassadors of peace must also become highly skillful in perceiving energetic shifts and signals in themselves and in others.
An Ambassador of Peace for Peace with Peace in Peace gives Peace Peacefully.
12:41:11 From Marie Dennis to Everyone:
I am so sorry but I must leave the conversation now.
12:41:20 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
We are selves in the body of the One We Are. That is the new mythology!
12:41:29 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
@Michael. Thank you for quoting Cousens.
12:41:31 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
Exactly, the HUMAN Is WHAT?
00:04:01 moses stevens: That's Everything Kat
12:41:32 From Adam Ericksen He|Him to Everyone:
00:07:22 Shannon McArthur: Michael, I appreciate your monk on the mountain!
Thank you Marie!
00:07:29 Kat Haber: I love when you put your books up to the screen @Stan! YOu are so well read!
12:41:34 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
00:08:32 Leo Jacoby: ::https://b-ok.cc/book/2835311/9ec765:: (This Is an Uprising: How Nonviolent Revolt Is Shaping the Twenty-First Century by Mark Engler, Paul Engler 2016 EPUB, 1.10 MB)
Warefare is a tool for the influential to insure that their genes live on in the world by reducing the competition.
00:09:09 Shannon McArthur: Leo! You ROCK!!
12:41:37 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
00:09:49 Leo Jacoby: Michael, thanks for the link to ::https://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/human/:: I just discovered this treasure trove yesterday.
do old structures need to dissolve before new story reveals itself
00:11:21 Kat Haber: In October, I am thinking of choosing a single campaign to work with. Anyone else want to play virtually with me to target a specific seat? I am thinking maybe the soon to be former Senator from Wisconsin Ron Johnson. Other ideas? Is Leo with us from mid Wisconsin?
12:42:17 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
00:14:36 Kurt Krueger: Kat, I’m game for helping whichever candidate you and friends choose.
WOMEN we know what it is to bring life into the world-this is not a new story this is nature, biology. How might we use this scafolding of regeneration to Xecute a story that war is outmoded way of resolving conflict. How might we build from female life bringing as a replacement for the soemthing better?
00:16:01 Leo Jacoby: Kat, yes I am in Wisconsin - we need help to swing blue.
12:42:22 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
00:18:21 Kat Haber: Voting this time really matters: have you checked your voter registration, we could use social media channels, direct messaging, we could find ways of donating to a cnadidate, we could inform voters in a region about their voting process and ballot, we could be of real consequence Chat People , we might find our relations in that region invite them to play with us and vote with us. We have invested years in understanding what leadership directions we need right now. Let's invest a few weeks to make our understanding/ourselves matter. yay @Kurt! Do you have a different candidate or would you like to also work on Replacing Ron Johnson-a Trump white supremicist with the black Mandela Barnes?
Yep! PLAY has a place in our NATURE too!
00:18:22 Kurt Krueger: Michael, you made good points in the chat, please feel free to share...
12:42:30 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
00:19:34 Kat Haber: Mandela Barnes could use our help. Leo, want to advise what is needed in his campaign? ::https://mandelabarnes.com/priorities/::
Experience utilizing Biomimicry to guide us to our inherent Nature. Imagine our body blending as nature. No longer learning from nature's example/guidance but being Nature. Automatically following INspiration, INtuition… Explore with us in this deep dive into full authenticity as the unique ‘snowflake’ we truly are. Come with us in this adventure of re-enculteration.
00:19:36 Kurt Krueger: Take 8 minutes of your life to experience a powerful expression on LOVE by a Prison inmate. ::http://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/human::
This program offers both an intellectual understanding and direct experience of biomimicry in its fullness ~ From INside Out. Journey in the curiosity of SHOW ME the highest expression of this moment.
One learned from a parent and the other from the most unexpected source you’d probably ever image could teach True Love. View the first 8 minutes and get back to me if the last statement is incorrect.
"Behind the restless movement of the mind is the stillness of being, the stillness that has no name, no reputation, nothing to protect. It is the natural mind." ~ Steven and Ondrea Levine.
Then check out Forgiving the Unforgivable is also the first of The Four Sacred Gifts, a great book by an indigenous elder, Anita Sanchez.
See: DANCING WITH BIOMIMICRY: Embodying Nature as Our Guide, ::https://youtu.be/7jAfWyCpXPM::,produced by the Peace Lab for Humanity Rising Global Solutions Summit, 2/16/22
LOVE and helpfulness work wonders... When we “work it”… Start practicing this PeaceMaker Meditation practice that can greatly help: . ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo::. Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace will reverberate throughout your day… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and ‘others.’
12:42:35 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
00:23:31 Kat Haber: On another channel right now I am learning aboutoil/gas infrastructure, big financial ESG infrastructure stranding, boom/bust/layoffs/$100>$30> energy companies are better managing demand on energy firms to manage the entire supply chain, enviro impact of moving massive materials>>>these are the guys warring on EARTH to produce stuff that we consume.
We forget the elements around us, are in us
00:23:52 Leo Jacoby: Kat, I'll check with local Dems what might be helpful for the Barnes campaign.
12:42:43 From Tina Michel to Everyone:
00:24:54 Kat Haber: Thanks so much! Lets make this game light time touch and big fun results! My face will love that big smile of learning that Mr. Johnson has been invited to a court rather than Congress in November!
thank you, Marie!
00:32:17 Leo Jacoby: Some links from today's HR (Click to download before chat closes.)
12:42:54 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
00:35:15 Kat Haber: Meanwhile we have producers who are maximizing profits, ripping trees out like toothpicks, digging up the ground like a handful of sand for their castles, and even environmentalists flying all over the planet-as I must 2 times to be with my family…Transition is itchy, not a smoothe feel good process.
Thank you so much, Marie, and all...
00:35:38 Kurt Krueger: Love is a Verb, Action time for the Love Birds to fly out and let the songs and beautiful feathers are experienced.
12:43:02 From michael coles to Everyone:
00:37:08 Kat Haber: Modeling decent humanning @Kari-ann! You doing you!
::https://www.filmsforaction.org/watch/human/::
00:37:16 Kurt Krueger: IS there a better word to express your experience
12:43:04 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
00:37:39 Leo Jacoby: Reverse of EVIL is LIVE (HATE --> ETAH)
LOVE
00:40:12 Leo Jacoby: One opposite of LOVE is INDIFFERENCE (The other opposite OBSESSION ala Aristotle)
12:43:10 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
00:44:00 Karri-ann Flater: Thanks Kat 💖
Blessings All! Much Gratitude to you!
00:45:27 Leo Jacoby: ::https://mimetictheory.com/articles/mimetic-desire/:: ("When he was in early twenties, René Girard got his first glimpse into the structure of desire. During his university studies in France, he fell in love...." interesting story about love and desire.)
12:43:28 From Anne Robertson to Host and Panelists:
00:45:32 Carol Sue Engleman-Facebook Sarah Sue-Belize: What your fear is what you attract and what you condemn is what you experience
Wonderful and thoughtful presentations Tom, congratulations!
00:47:44 Leo Jacoby: ::https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10746-021-09613-3:: (Beyond Contagion of Violence: Passionate Love and Empathy in the Thought of René Girard and Max
12:43:28 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Scheler by Bogumił Strączek 2021, 16pp.)
Thank you, Michael and Tom, for joining us in the AfterChat yesterday. I hope you can come today and Adam too!
00:47:56 Kat Haber: So agree serving others is serving ourselves.
12:43:31 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
00:49:20 Kat Haber: How about we all write postcards to people in Wisconsin about how much we like the policies/values of Mandela Barnes?
Thanks so very much everyone! Thought provoking, heart breaking that we are having this conversation. May peace prevail in this precarious moment!
00:49:55 Franka Strietzel: I too am leaving.
12:43:31 From Adam Ericksen He|Him to Everyone:
Peace and joy to all!
Thank you everyone! Wonderful comments and conversations. Hope you have a great rest of the day!
00:50:10 Leo Jacoby: ::https://lukeburgis.com/mimetic-desire/::
12:43:34 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
00:50:13 moses stevens: Isnt that Being phoney >>not honest>>>>>>??????
Yes, as ever, thank you all
00:50:55 Leo Jacoby: Auf wiedersehn Franka
12:43:37 From m monk to Everyone:
00:51:48 Kurt Krueger: CU franka. LUV U
could it be possible that our animal programming ( nature ) could be stronger than the veneer of human superior? consciousness? e.g., Balkans
00:52:30 Franka Strietzel: Tschüss 👋
12:43:39 From Kurt Krueger to Everyone:
00:53:24 Kurt Krueger: Thanks for your work for a thriving life. Together in collaboration and dialogue, we get to prompt the world back into thriving for ALL our relations. See how we can do it even faster with the Peace Lab, www.OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab
HUMAN's frist 10 minutes is POWERFUL
Have a magical day creating the Grandest Version of Your Greatest Vision!
12:43:43 From Aida Merriweather to Everyone:
Kurt Krueger, PHD (Playing Happily Daily)
Thank you all so much
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00:55:42 moses stevens: Yes Find the TRUTH within your heart Answers in COMPASSION Beautiful Kurt!! Love Love Love
12:44:07 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
00:56:49 moses stevens: YES >BE what you want to see
. ..oOo..
00:59:08 Suzanne Jones: can't unmute myself
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00:59:09 Karri-ann Flater: I have to go, love to you all 💖
Chat PEOPLE and panelists
01:00:00 Ruud West: I have to leave. Thank you all and love to you all
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes.
01:00:04 Carol Sue Engleman-Facebook Sarah Sue-Belize: ::https://oahspestandardedition.com/:: This is the book I was talking about yesterday Channeled through a man in 1881 and is the history of the Universe over 72K years including into the future and the perfect community in the future that is one of the few ways to truly change our society is to stay out of society so the young children are not exposed to the violence
You can join the Zoom Meeting
01:00:21 Leo Jacoby: ::https://johnpistelli.com/2021/04/21/rene-girard-deceit-desire-and-the-novel-self-and-other-in-literary-structure/::
01:03:18 Carol Sue Engleman-Facebook Sarah Sue-Belize: What can anyone tell me about Kryon? A man who has been channeling through a man named Jim for the last 18 years. Oddly enough, I listened to the Lightworkers Handbook the 1st 5 Chapters just last night and twice.
Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
01:03:34 Kat Haber: I agree, I learned Sunday that keeping a room open for those who want to can more deeply bond.
Passcode: 919541
01:04:39 Leo Jacoby: Kat, thanks again for Sunday's TEDx
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01:05:44 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.ibm.com/cloud/learn/natural-language-processing#:~:text=Natural%20language%20processing%20(NLP)%20refers,same%20way%20human%20beings%20can::.
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01:07:22 Kat Haber: Join us, TEDxing elevates, as does Humanity Rising, Chat Peopling and all the many other pathways we each are engaging with. ::https://www.eventbrite.com/e/tedxvailwomen-presents-tickets-426717372147::
12:44:12 From michael coles to Everyone:
01:09:21 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.heidilittle.com/::
We are separate from and together with.
01:10:38 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.youtube.com/heidilittle::
We are together from and separate with.
01:12:35 Kat Haber: Love that better than we could ever imagine!
We are all seeing the nothing together separately.
01:13:06 Leo Jacoby: Updated links file (click above)
The journey from separateness to be together with the All We Are
01:14:20 Leo Jacoby: ciao for now
~A Perspective B Thoughts
01:17:17 Kat Haber: Victim world for no reason at all? Paradise of love and delights, hall of mirrors reflecting back to us we hold within ourselves, origin in ourself, create our miseries or delights, fear we attract, condemn is our Xperience, paradox, today get our own evidence our perceptiosn our power tool, put on default setting, we know one thing for sure, everything is going to be better thatn anything we could imagine, begin a new way of living, yearning to know the origina of our present living, watch our thoughts as they arise, for 15 minutes, stress/lack or beauty/abundance/joy #1 make about face reverse course on harsh lessons of our lives, commit to one month of non stop, new way of living, in our whole being, make this the law of our land, our perception we can change our world
12:44:19 From Stan for the ChatPeople to Everyone:
01:21:06 Michael Coles: ::https://www.seladvancement.org/:: Heidi Little
You can join the After Chat here:
01:26:20 Carol Sue Engleman-Facebook Sarah Sue-Belize: "he Molecule of More" By Daniel Lieberman, MD
01:29:07 Suzanne Jones: Goodbye everyone. I really enjoyed being here today.
LOVELOVELOVE Namaste
01:29:34 Kat Haber: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBoOEbwgStw::
12:44:26 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
01:31:41 Kat Haber: @Michael I commend to you Babbel: ::https://try.babbel.com/flags-sem-brand-desktop/?bsc=aw6b_engall_us_ex&btp=default&gclid=CjwKCAjwvsqZBhAlEiwAqAHElUHeZlXpKS3nNSRMs3xLflLY7UdxxJb5toILLIZK-IWYcqcs0IQZ_hoCWD8QAvD_BwE&utm_content=948291830_47796642900_kwd-294976316616_579997163721&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google::
00:02:20 Franka Strietzel: What was Kat‘s question?
00:04:01 moses stevens: That's Everything Kat
00:07:22 Shannon McArthur: Michael, I appreciate your monk on the mountain!
00:07:29 Kat Haber: I love when you put your books up to the screen @Stan! YOu are so well read!
00:08:32 Leo Jacoby: ::https://b-ok.cc/book/2835311/9ec765:: (This Is an Uprising: How Nonviolent Revolt Is Shaping the Twenty-First Century by Mark Engler, Paul Engler 2016 EPUB, 1.10 MB)
00:11:21 Kat Haber: In October, I am thinking of choosing a single campaign to work with. Anyone else want to play virtually with me to target a specific seat? I am thinking maybe the soon to be former Senator from Wisconsin Ron Johnson. Other ideas? Is Leo with us from mid Wisconsin?
00:14:36 Kurt Krueger: Kat, I’m game for helping whichever candidate you and friends choose.
00:16:01 Leo Jacoby: Kat, yes I am in Wisconsin - we need help to swing blue.
00:18:21 Kat Haber: Voting this time really matters: have you checked your voter registration, we could use social media channels, direct messaging, we could find ways of donating to a cnadidate, we could inform voters in a region about their voting process and ballot, we could be of real consequence Chat People , we might find our relations in that region invite them to play with us and vote with us. We have invested years in understanding what leadership directions we need right now. Let's invest a few weeks to make our understanding/ourselves matter. yay @Kurt! Do you have a different candidate or would you like to also work on Replacing Ron Johnson-a Trump white supremicist with the black Mandela Barnes?
00:18:22 Kurt Krueger: Michael, you made good points in the chat, please feel free to share...
00:19:34 Kat Haber: Mandela Barnes could use our help. Leo, want to advise what is needed in his campaign? ::https://mandelabarnes.com/priorities/::
One learned from a parent and the other from the most unexpected source you’d probably ever image could teach True Love. View the first 8 minutes and get back to me if the last statement is incorrect.
Then check out Forgiving the Unforgivable is also the first of The Four Sacred Gifts, a great book by an indigenous elder, Anita Sanchez.
LOVE and helpfulness work wonders... When we “work it”… Start practicing this PeaceMaker Meditation practice that can greatly help: . ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo::. Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace will reverberate throughout your day… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and ‘others.’
00:23:31 Kat Haber: On another channel right now I am learning aboutoil/gas infrastructure, big financial ESG infrastructure stranding, boom/bust/layoffs/$100>$30> energy companies are better managing demand on energy firms to manage the entire supply chain, enviro impact of moving massive materials>>>these are the guys warring on EARTH to produce stuff that we consume.
00:23:52 Leo Jacoby: Kat, I'll check with local Dems what might be helpful for the Barnes campaign.
00:24:54 Kat Haber: Thanks so much! Lets make this game light time touch and big fun results! My face will love that big smile of learning that Mr. Johnson has been invited to a court rather than Congress in November!
00:32:17 Leo Jacoby: Some links from today's HR (Click to download before chat closes.)
00:35:15 Kat Haber: Meanwhile we have producers who are maximizing profits, ripping trees out like toothpicks, digging up the ground like a handful of sand for their castles, and even environmentalists flying all over the planet-as I must 2 times to be with my family…Transition is itchy, not a smoothe feel good process.
00:35:38 Kurt Krueger: Love is a Verb, Action time for the Love Birds to fly out and let the songs and beautiful feathers are experienced.
00:37:08 Kat Haber: Modeling decent humanning @Kari-ann! You doing you!
00:37:16 Kurt Krueger: IS there a better word to express your experience
00:37:39 Leo Jacoby: Reverse of EVIL is LIVE (HATE --> ETAH)
00:40:12 Leo Jacoby: One opposite of LOVE is INDIFFERENCE (The other opposite OBSESSION ala Aristotle)
00:44:00 Karri-ann Flater: Thanks Kat 💖
00:45:27 Leo Jacoby: ::https://mimetictheory.com/articles/mimetic-desire/:: ("When he was in early twenties, René Girard got his first glimpse into the structure of desire. During his university studies in France, he fell in love...." interesting story about love and desire.)
00:45:32 Carol Sue Engleman-Facebook Sarah Sue-Belize: What your fear is what you attract and what you condemn is what you experience
00:50:13 moses stevens: Isnt that Being phoney >>not honest>>>>>>??????
00:50:55 Leo Jacoby: Auf wiedersehn Franka
00:51:48 Kurt Krueger: CU franka. LUV U
00:52:30 Franka Strietzel: Tschüss 👋
00:53:24 Kurt Krueger: Thanks for your work for a thriving life. Together in collaboration and dialogue, we get to prompt the world back into thriving for ALL our relations. See how we can do it even faster with the Peace Lab, www.OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab
Have a magical day creating the Grandest Version of Your Greatest Vision!
00:55:42 moses stevens: Yes Find the TRUTH within your heart Answers in COMPASSION Beautiful Kurt!! Love Love Love
00:56:49 moses stevens: YES >BE what you want to see
00:59:08 Suzanne Jones: can't unmute myself
00:59:09 Karri-ann Flater: I have to go, love to you all 💖
01:00:00 Ruud West: I have to leave. Thank you all and love to you all
01:00:04 Carol Sue Engleman-Facebook Sarah Sue-Belize: ::https://oahspestandardedition.com/:: This is the book I was talking about yesterday Channeled through a man in 1881 and is the history of the Universe over 72K years including into the future and the perfect community in the future that is one of the few ways to truly change our society is to stay out of society so the young children are not exposed to the violence
01:03:18 Carol Sue Engleman-Facebook Sarah Sue-Belize: What can anyone tell me about Kryon? A man who has been channeling through a man named Jim for the last 18 years. Oddly enough, I listened to the Lightworkers Handbook the 1st 5 Chapters just last night and twice.
01:03:34 Kat Haber: I agree, I learned Sunday that keeping a room open for those who want to can more deeply bond.
01:04:39 Leo Jacoby: Kat, thanks again for Sunday's TEDx
01:12:35 Kat Haber: Love that better than we could ever imagine!
01:13:06 Leo Jacoby: Updated links file (click above)
01:14:20 Leo Jacoby: ciao for now
01:17:17 Kat Haber: Victim world for no reason at all? Paradise of love and delights, hall of mirrors reflecting back to us we hold within ourselves, origin in ourself, create our miseries or delights, fear we attract, condemn is our Xperience, paradox, today get our own evidence our perceptiosn our power tool, put on default setting, we know one thing for sure, everything is going to be better thatn anything we could imagine, begin a new way of living, yearning to know the origina of our present living, watch our thoughts as they arise, for 15 minutes, stress/lack or beauty/abundance/joy #1 make about face reverse course on harsh lessons of our lives, commit to one month of non stop, new way of living, in our whole being, make this the law of our land, our perception we can change our world
