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11:01:27 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Good morning! Warm and loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!

11:09:29 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:

   Hello, welcome to Day 616 of Humanity Rising on Glyphosate

11:09:33 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:

   Me too! Love the breathing.

11:09:35 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Good Morning, Jim and Humanity Rising Friends. Thank you for being with us today, Tom.

11:10:34 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:

   May I be added to the Panel?

11:10:53 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Thank you, Stanley for the email last night that included the powerful link…

11:14:18 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:

   I’m sorry Henry Rowlands was unable to join us. I hope he’s well, or getting better.

11:17:07 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Thank you for being with us, Carey. The last time I walked into a Home Depot (last summer, I very rarely go there) I was shocked at how much Round Up was being sold - I thought (or maybe hoped) it was prohibited already based on the lawsuits… Geesh! Agree corporate capture not of our governances.

11:17:52 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Hmm, no *not in my above

11:19:03 From Diane. to Everyone:

   So the battle is between corporate greed and (honest) planetary need!

11:20:53 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Interesting, eh!! The amount of 'non' education!!

11:21:54 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:

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11:24:32 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Thank you Claire for being so clear!! Yes, we are still doing het deeds - equal to slavery. Not noticing (maybe not caring) because the damage is done far away!!

11:24:54 From Diane. to Everyone:

   * the deeds

11:27:25 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Most 'ordinary' folk are lovely but - being part of the machine is creating a huge amount of damage!! Hard for people to play the other game. Step away from the system!!

11:27:39 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   So wealth and gain - was any of the incentive for mass food production for some type of overall good (the way Pollan speaks re: after the war) versus just for the company’s well being?

11:27:55 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Paraquat was sprayed on Marijuana in the 70’s 80’s.

11:29:03 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Personally (Naively maybe) I think they meant well in the first place - Massive growth and no weeds!! However, now we know better - time to change the game.

11:30:27 From Diane. to Everyone:

   It's still in our main UK supermarkets!! Education is essential!!

11:30:35 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Yes I used in 2002 / 2003 when I was first updating my yard. Bummed I didn’t know better!

11:30:49 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   A great book on this topic is: Beyond the War on Invasive Species

   https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/25782048-beyond-the-war-on-invasive-species?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=yRTpreXOkG&rank=5

11:31:20 From Lynne Franks to Everyone:

   I have an issue in my garden in the UK with Japanese Knot Weed and I am being pressured by council and neighbours to use Glycophate and I am resisting.  Anyone know the alternative natural way to get rid of these?

11:32:11 From Diane. to Everyone:

   The Japanese use knotweed as food!!!

11:32:22 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   Lynne, it may be worth reading the above book I mentioned. It has some alternative solutions to "managing" weeds

11:32:29 From Diane. to Everyone:

   They grow it on purpose!!

11:32:48 From Tricia Fortina to Everyone:

   I'm so grateful for this topic coming to our discussion...   I've been knowing about Glyphosates for over 12 years b/c one of my businesses is in the water filter business.  Multipure drinking water filters reduce this carcinogen to around 98-99 %...   www.multipure.com/tfortina   83 contaminants certified reduced...     When Stan puts out the after chat notes, later tonight or by tomorrow... I'll pass the recording of today out to lot's of people who will want to hear this.     Also, I was told by a local Green Thumb nursery in So Calif.,  that weeds are now resistant to roundup... so that it'll be taken off the market... because of its lower effectiveness...            Yet, a more rigorous version of weed killing will try to replace it  Keep an eye out for that...

11:33:14 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   So bummed we still test on animals, too.

11:34:18 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Intentional fraud and ‘greenwashing’...

11:34:56 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   A farmer dropped a tool into a vat of these chemicals, he immediately reached in got it and then immediately washed his arm… It ended up withering up and he also got cancer… who heard of such…

11:35:24 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Two movies: Kiss the Ground and The Need to Grow, both explain why our soil needs all the weeds and crop rotation etc to be 'alive'. It's the same with human bodies - we need our gut bacteria.

11:35:33 From Deepak Udharamaney to Everyone:

   glyphosate in everything especially in North America

11:36:38 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com to Everyone:

   Josh Thome produced a movie set in Kauai about Monsanto operations there.  "Aina: The Land that Feeds Us"

11:36:49 From Claudine to Host and Panelists:

   Round up contains also the remains of cracking towers (see french professor of university of Caën)

11:36:55 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   I believe if you tried at all, it would be hard to believe that today - even the last 6 or 7 years.

11:37:00 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Especially in North America!! Exactly!! The EU are slightly better but - the UK is no changing their policies on bees and chemicals!!

11:37:04 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   When I lived in Boulder we were working to create an ordinance that roundup and similar things on PUBLIC land. Boy o boy did we see ‘experts’ from Denver and other places came forward to ‘testify’ that it was safe. Monsanto does not allow for ANY opposition! Quite amazing.

11:37:24 From Deepak Udharamaney to Everyone:

   the nutrition is in a healthy microbial activity going and not in dead soil caused by these toxic concoctions

11:37:48 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   There was false propaganda about Monsanto being used during the 2016 election across Facebook - so definitely even then we knew the harms.

11:37:54 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Yes, Deepak!!

11:38:31 From Diane. to Everyone:

   UK - we also banned glyphosate but as Carey says - there are other problems. We need a whole new way!!!

11:38:38 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   I embrace the "little yellow dots" (dandelions) on my front lawn, I call them flowers, they are not "weeds"

11:39:36 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Exactly Karri-ann. And dandelions in salads and dandelion tea - good for health!!

11:40:54 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Thank goodness the 'weeds' are stronger than the humans, eh!!

11:40:56 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   It would be interesting to see the lobbying and campaign financing at the same time they were ‘believing’ the companies.

11:41:12 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   We need to USE “weeds” like that!! Can we feed them to our cattle?

11:41:15 From Diane. to Everyone:

   We still ruined the soil tho!!

11:41:50 From Diane. to Everyone:

   We can feed dandelions to me hahaha

11:42:07 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Those weeds make good mulch so new weeds don’t take root.

11:42:10 From Diane. to Everyone:

   (As well as the cattle) xxx

11:42:19 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Good idea, Diane ;)

11:42:44 From Diane. to Everyone:

   I use the dandelion leaves - and nettles!!

11:43:54 From Deepak Udharamaney to Everyone:

   and this maybe a bit offtopic but animal agriculture using more than half of the arable fertile land to feed our livestock  may have been a part of our culture and tradition but it cant possibly feed a growing human population while destroying ecosystems at the same time . Whereas if the whole world signed  The Plant based treaty like Edinburgh Just did joining other cities LA, we can free up that land to bring back forests and effectively reverse climate change and give us time to reduce our energy consumption and truly find sustainable solutions to live in harmony with the natural world .

11:44:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   I love the first flush of dandelion yellow in the Spring that flows across the meadows… makes great wine!

11:44:45 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Exactly: scientist have been warning us against Monsanto (and others) for many years!! Worse in USA but - corporations vs education. Greed (profit) vs nature (people and planet)!!!

11:44:48 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   Me too Shannon, dandelions are beautiful and nourishing, it is just a matter of perspective shift. And then I also embrace the clover that comes after that.

11:45:57 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:

   The regulators are busy using tobacco which is also a “safe” product.

11:45:59 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   It all comes down to people, greed, fear, the willing blindness.

11:46:14 From Diane. to Everyone:

   The regulators have shares in the company and LOBBYING!!!

11:46:55 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   I could imagine that there may even be healing qualities to tobacco, and that it is all the other "stuff" that is sprayed on it that makes it harmful. Food for thought.

11:47:32 From Diane. to Everyone:

   And even when half a million people offer a solution (Fuel Poverty Action here) - 'they' ignore it!!!

11:47:49 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   How much time will be spent today on PREVENTIONS, and SOLUTIONS that the listeners may takes advantage of, You could give us links for information and action steps to take immediately.

11:48:26 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   I hear you Kurt. And also, awareness is an important first step to healing too.

11:48:27 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Didn’t Vandana Shiva SUE Monsanto in India? AND WIN?

11:48:38 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Karri-ann, tobacco used to be prescribed for asthma. It has always been (and still is) a sacred medicine to Indigenous peoples.

11:48:54 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Well done Kurt!! Yes, let us (the people) know what we can do!! And Tom, thank you

11:50:36 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Soil policy!!

11:50:37 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   WE get to buy organic because we can afford it. It is those who can’t that I am most upset about/for.

11:51:04 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   What is it: poison the poor?

11:51:12 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   #1. Communicate with NEIGHBORS! Friends, etc.

11:51:22 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   Yes,I wonder if a focus on soil healthy might be a way to undermine all this from a different perspective.

11:53:06 From Lynne Franks to Everyone:

   Clare. Are you near Forest Row?

11:53:12 From Diane. to Everyone:

   Exactly Claire, the UK is about to go down the dreadful road now we've left the EU. Our politicians are sooooo ignorant!! Money is their god!! So glad you're discussing this. And yes, Kathryn: focus on the soil!! Have to leave xxxxx

11:53:37 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   I have a wonderful regenerative local farmer I get my veggies from. The carrots taste like carrots!! 🥕 It is amazing how many more veggies you eat when they taste delicious.

11:53:58 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Yes, so important. I let all my neighbors know that don’t use pesticides on my lawn - they can tell - but it doesn’t look that much worse. A few have taken up on it now, too.

11:54:23 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   I use vinegar!!

11:54:27 From Karen Carrieri to Host and Panelists:

   What’s name potatoe type product?

11:54:54 From Lynne Franks to Host and Panelists:

   Clare, what about Japanese Knot Weed?

11:55:26 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Vandana Shiva & Monsanto: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/08/25/seeds-of-doubt

11:55:30 From Deepak Udharamaney to Everyone:

   @Kurt , I actually coincidentally  just met  Vandana Shiva at the launch of her new book today called Terra Viva

11:55:42 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Haha I’m an attorney and often suspicious ;)

11:55:53 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   Vandana Shiva is a lovely human. She is very inspiring

11:55:55 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   I used to drink dandelion “coffee” — it was wonderful; made in Switzerland, but cannot be found anymore.

11:56:00 From Tina Michel to Everyone:

   "economical with the truth"....Love it!

11:56:21 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   The dandelions are so good for the bees, too!

11:56:22 From Deepak Udharamaney to Everyone:

   I believe someone sued Monsanto in the US and won as well

11:56:45 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:

   I had a health food store 1980 to 1982 and only carried and cooked Organically Grown and refused to use anything. Dandelions are the highest source of vitamin A on the planet. I cultivated them in my yard much to the chagrin of my neighbors!

11:57:52 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:

   Vandana Shiva’s appearances on Humanity Rising https://othernetworks.org/Vandana_Shiva

11:58:12 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   Dandelion coffee or tea can be made from the roots.   It should not be that hard to find organic dandelion roots.   It is a very old herbal remedy and should be available in most places that sell bulk herbs.

11:58:16 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   Yes Deepak. There was a movie about it starring Christopher Walken (I can't remember the title of the movie, I will see if I can find it...)

11:58:55 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   Our town Carbondale, Colorado USA celebrates the Dandelion as the town flower with a day of festivities in May - https://www.facebook.com/carbondaledandelionday/

11:59:11 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Rita! That’s lovely!

11:59:18 From Tina Michel to Everyone:

   That's awesome, Rita!

11:59:34 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   The movie is called Percy. He was a farmer in Saskatchewan who was involved in legal action with Monsanto. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Percy_(2020_film)

11:59:53 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   That's amazing Rita! Love that.

12:00:36 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:

   With Love...           

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12:00:39 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:

   I am in Belize where they have outlawed GMO in food but still allow it in the animal feed. I was in a Mayan Village and a child was spraying Round Up! Of course I tried to convince them not to.

12:00:46 From Deepak Udharamaney to Everyone:

   @Karri if you follow John Robbins @FoodRevolutionSummit they actually featured the guy who  sued Bayer which is what Monsanto is called now and won

12:01:50 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   Wonderful, thank you Deepak.

12:01:56 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   Fertility - Mother Nature is very clever!

12:02:22 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   A feature of Dandelion Day is Parade of the Animals/Creatures - children in costumes of animal, insect. fish etc of their choice marching along Main Street to Sopris Park.

12:02:41 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Rita — adorable!

12:02:46 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   @Claire - excellent point!

12:02:53 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   Rita - wonderful!!

12:03:19 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Jane Goodall was on Humanity Rising DAY 1

12:03:24 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   And more

12:04:19 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   It's like 1984/Orwellian doublespeak: "Poison is Food"

12:04:30 From Deepak Udharamaney to Everyone:

   apparently Bill Gates loves GM crops since he's buying land all over and converting land into GM. a major investor in impossible foods as well

12:04:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Aho!

12:04:44 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:

   Jane Goodall has been on Humanity Rising twice: https://othernetworks.org/Jane_Goodall

12:05:00 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thanks, Stan

12:05:30 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:

   Thank you, Shannon!

12:05:45 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Oh ha, yes that’s interesting re: the generational mention - I am so saddened that my Gen X kind of gave into many of the products for convenience, hat we actually knew would be bad for us. I knew about Round Up being bad since late 2000s at least. But it’s so much more than that - we knew. As an attorney, I will just say if you paid attention at all, you knew. I am generalizing of course but there are so many aspects of what we do today that are harmful not just for humans, but the animals and biodiversity. Sadly, I think this has been much more of a fraudulent systemic issue (fake PR, studies as you mentioned, funding, etc. major greenwashing) than perhaps we are even discussing.     Mostly, thank you both so much for this Amazing work you all are doing on this!!!

12:05:52 From Deepak Udharamaney to Everyone:

   can I find replays of the earlier episodes somewhere

12:07:26 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   In this case, The Pill is muddying the (poisoned) waters.

12:07:52 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Yes without getting into personal details, agree the estrogen is also an issue!

12:08:13 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Host and Panelists:

   Humanly created Chemicals are all dangerous to the Natural System

12:08:30 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Everyone:

   Deepak, you can search Http://othernetworks.org by first names to find any of the over 1,200 Humanity Rising presenters and the episodes when they were on.

12:08:54 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Monsanto = Bayer

12:09:06 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   Also - it could be mentioned that Monsanto is now Bayer

12:09:13 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   They are finding chemicals in the bodies of new born babies. Cancer is children???? You would think people would be upon arms…

12:09:23 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   (oh, our minds were on the same wavelength Shannon!)\

12:09:37 From Tina Michel to Everyone:

   Hi Karri-Ann! 😍

12:09:41 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   ;) yes, ma’am!!

12:09:43 From Deepak Udharamaney to Everyone:

   exactly Shannon . they changed name to save face .Andrew Kimbrell is US attorney sued Bayer and won

12:09:44 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   A heroine in raising awareness of the chemical influence on fertility who has now passed Theo Colburn coauthored the book - Our Stolen Future. This book examines the ways that certain synthetic chemicals interfere with hormonal messages involved in the control of growth and development, especially in the fetus.

12:09:45 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   Hey Tina!! 💖

12:10:29 From Tina Michel to Everyone:

   Didn't Bayer make poisonous bio-weapons long ago (like WWI?)

12:10:33 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:

   A great solution is Sonic Bloom a frequency to plants, opens the stomata under the leaves then spray an organic liquid that give the signal to roots to uptake the minerals and makes the roots twice as sweet, a synergistic effect of 700-1000 % rise in nutrition and 3-8 times more prolific. Our roots are supposed to be sweet and because of our farming practices the roots are too high in carbohydrates and the bugs are attracted to the carbohydrate. When Sonic Bloom, discovered by Dan Carlson, Sr., is used,  the bugs take a bite and the sugar ferments in their bodies and they die from alcohol poisoning, thus it is a natural pesticide.

12:10:33 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Agree Jim!!

12:11:21 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Ooo, Carol-Sue… sounds very interesting — let

12:11:38 From Tina Michel to Everyone:

   That's ingenious, Carol-Sue! (Sonic Bloom)

12:11:42 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   ’s talk about it in the AfterChat

12:11:44 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Oh the irony!

12:12:10 From Tricia Fortina to Host and Panelists:

   The medicines & birth control type pills are part of a fairly new contaminant group called Emerging Contaminants.   The Multipure drinking water filter reduces the contaminants in this group to nearly 100%. Email me if you want a link to the big list of contaminants reduced.   Tricia4water@gmail.com   ; )

12:12:19 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   Biodynamic gardening and permaculture practices resolve the issue of having to "poison" any weeds, insects.

12:12:27 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   Fungi is our friend! 🍄

12:12:56 From Deepak Udharamaney to Everyone:

   Well Rockefeller , the founder of Standard Oil was actually the original  proprietor in the herbicides and GMO industry as a byproduct to the oil refining process during WWI

12:13:25 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   The Rockefeller family has really done a number on humanity.

12:13:42 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting after this session closes. 

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12:14:05 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   To use the AfterChat link now and join when you’re ready, click the link and the next. When you are offered the Red (Leave and Join) Button, set it aside until you're ready.

12:14:38 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Host and Panelists:

   The 7 GENERATIONS Indigenous practices is the key to our future.

12:14:44 From Deepak Udharamaney to Everyone:

   and the Koch brothers who stopped any significant  development of public transportation network in United states

12:14:46 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   yes exactly - follow ExxonKnews for the fossil fuel version of the false purposely disinformation they have promoted for over 20 years

12:15:18 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:

   Why are we not also addressing the poison we have allowed them to put directly in our blood that has been proven to be targeting the reproductive organs, heart, and other issues. I have been told here, Not To Go There! Why Not! The evidence is out there and the propaganda and lies are out there being exposed.  Are you going to wait 30 years to say something? The real evil is happening right now!

12:15:21 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Host and Panelists:

   Braiding Sweetgrass, Robin Kimmerer’s journey that is every bit as mythic as it is scientific, as sacred as it is historical. the awakening of ecological consciousness requires the acknowledgment and celebration of our reciprocal relationship with the rest of the living world.   

   "Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect." ~Chief Seattle

12:15:33 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   As well as the Rothschild family

12:15:40 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   My understanding is they are horrific in other countries - pure take over.

12:15:44 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Braiding Sweetgrass, Robin Kimmerer’s journey that is every bit as mythic as it is scientific, as sacred as it is historical. the awakening of ecological consciousness requires the acknowledgment and celebration of our reciprocal relationship with the rest of the living world.   

   "Humankind has not woven the web of life. We are but one thread within it. Whatever we do to the web, we do to ourselves. All things are bound together. All things connect." ~Chief Seattle

12:15:48 From Stan 4 ChatPeople to Georg Boch(Direct Message):

   Can you open Gallery view for all participants? Please.

12:16:03 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   I was thinking the same thing Carol Sue - I see many parallels here. The governing boards that told us these things were "safe and effective"

12:16:22 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   There you go, Carol-Sue, I heard the word!

12:16:33 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   @Kurt Thanks for mentioning Robin K's sentinel book.

12:17:03 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Yes, thank you for your courage!!!

12:17:35 From Tina Michel to Everyone:

   "Braiding Sweetgrass" is a must-read!! Thank you, Kurt!

12:17:49 From Deepak Udharamaney to Everyone:

   actually Big oil knew better than scientist in the early 1970s at the time how their product will threaten life itself later in the 21st century . so began their misinformation propoganda by the name of GCC

12:18:09 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   I have 2 granddaughters. You two are role models I want them to know. Thank you for all you have done, and do.

12:19:03 From Tina Michel to Everyone:

   Thank you, Clare and Carey, for speaking thr truth!

12:19:18 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   That has been a guide for me in recent times - anytime someone is "vilified" online I now pay attention to what they are saying. This is a time to do our own research and learn to critically think for ourselves.

12:19:45 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Wow - thank you for what you do! Reminds me of Steven Dozinger being imprisoned for representing the case against Chevron

12:19:48 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Yes, Karri-Ann, we have a very good “litmus test” in that.

12:20:29 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   You SHOULD be able to sue them for defamation of character.

12:20:51 From Deepak Udharamaney to Everyone:

   famous climate scientist Stephen Schneider  publicly criticized the hydrocarbon industry  got death threats on the daily

12:21:05 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   I believe it is Disinformation - since it is purposeful

12:21:20 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   I believe it is Purposeful though maybe they argue it is not

12:21:44 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Exxon and Dow Chemical, too

12:21:56 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Yes very courageous!! Thank you!!

12:23:13 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

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   We would love your participation in creating Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace in whichever way best suits you. Please accept this gift of membership in the PeaceMakers Circles/Network to get started. Register here: 

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12:23:28 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Whenever I post information (my own writings) on facebook stating some of these truths, it gets very little views (I have 3.7k friends) compared to personal posts. Sad but I am sure the Social Media platforms are for the corporations.

12:23:31 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:

   Come to the After Chat to learn more about Sonic Bloom. Did you know that Supreme Court Judge Clarence Thomas was Monsantos's Lawyer

12:24:38 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   One of the branches of the the Peace Lab’s wheel of co-creation is the ENVIRONMENT. As you may have seen though the power of eating a diet for a healthy body/Gaia by seeing the documentary EATING TO EXTINCTION… and using the book DRAWDOWN, that demonstrates the # 6 of 100 most effective ways to reverse global warming is EDUCATING WOMEN! Let's play together ASAP. The time is ripe.   

   We'd love to collaborate with you in bringing Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace. See in the following video how societies may use nature as a model for collaboration and thriving for all. https://youtu.be/7jAfWyCpXPM. Also APPLY what is contained in  Living Values Education’s Activities for Caring for the Earth.   

   “With nature’s help, humankind can set into creation all that is necessary and life-sustaining.” ~ St. Hildegard of Bingen

12:25:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   You can join the Zoom Meeting

   https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09

   To use the AfterChat link now and join when you’re ready, click the link and the next. When you are offered the Red (Leave and Join) Button, set it aside until you're ready.

12:25:04 From Karri-ann Flater to Everyone:

   Yes, I could see that and have experienced that as well Katherine. I think social media is a very "skewed" perception of reality. I am no longer on FB or IG

12:25:51 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:

   The people from Truth About Cancer are suing Twitter & Facebook for the censoring which has been proven to be paid for by the government

12:26:19 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Thanks for your life’s work for a thriving life. Together in collaboration, coagulation, and dialogue, we get to prompt the world back into thriving for ALL our relations. See how we can do it even faster with the Peace Lab, www.OtherNetworks.org/Peace_Lab   

   Kurt Krueger, AnotherU

   Founding Member of Peace Lab, 

   FREE PeaceMaker MasterMind Circles ~ to be all you can be to bring Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace:  https://noblegoldman.com/fun/intentional-change-network/kurtkrueger

   SuccessSystemsInternational.net AND @gmail.com

   The World Fest, www.theWorldFestOrganization.org

   * Winning Ways for Living *  (last volume in the bestselling series) ~ Three books in 1 to make your life better… AND leave your REVIEW on its quality. Thank you..

   Going Beyond Your Beyond Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnRMOnm-PYm40VeTxkSJxyA     

   ‘We don't address their brains; we address their hearts.’ ~ Mandela   

   PeaceMaker Meditation, https://youtu.be/wE8b66ggrMo

12:26:47 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Yes I see some of the younger scientists coming out on tiktok making a statement. Agree they are putting their work not to mention lives in danger. Blessings to them and each of you!

12:27:39 From Elizabeth Haines to Everyone:

   Thank you so much!

12:27:41 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Thank you!!!!!!

12:27:58 From Jane Norton to Everyone:

   Thanks to both speakers for your amazing courage!

12:27:59 From Tina Michel to Everyone:

   Muchas gracias!

12:28:01 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Integrity and for your courage!

12:28:11 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   The courage of youth and you with integrity is very inspiring! Thank you.

12:28:13 From Diane Waddell to Host and Panelists:

   So GOOD to hear about this!!! Appreciate you all and presenting FACTS!!

12:28:23 From Deepak Udharamaney to Everyone:

   what human hubris to think we can best nature . every civilization should be cautionary tale that isn't here anymore

12:28:33 From Deepak Udharamaney to Everyone:

   thank you so much

12:28:42 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Dr Zach Bush is coming? What day?

12:28:49 From Carey Gillam to Host and Panelists:

   Thank you everyone!

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