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11:17:59 From Jane M to Everyone:

   aka the false doctrine of "The Good  Old Days".

11:18:16 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:

   Today is Day 396 - Confronting the Enablers of Religious Authoritarianism with Carolyn Baker

11:18:38 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:

   Great topic

11:23:21 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:

   Rick, please upgrade me...

11:24:17 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   Jason Stanley wrote "How Fascism Works" 2018 and "How Propaganda Works" 2015 Both ebooks available at ::https://book4you.org/g/Jason%20F.%20Stanley::

11:24:37 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:

   very important topic!! unfortunately I cannot stay all time..but will surely follow...here in Brasil...with a BolsoNERO

11:24:48 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Richard Buckley(Direct Message):

   Thank you.

11:25:08 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   ::https://www.alternet.org/2016/12/trump-eerily-perfect-match-famous-14-point-guide-identify-fascist-leaders/::

11:25:10 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:

   on the screen...terrifying...plus the extreme evangelists.

11:26:21 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:

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   With Love...   

   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.   

   You can join the After Chat here:

   ::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::

   Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451

   Passcode: 919541   

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11:26:54 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:

   Leo, Thank you for capturing her recommendations!

11:27:41 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:

   Yes, Leo, thank you for doing so..

11:28:26 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   ::https://book4you.org/book/3514928/907bfc:: (Leaving the Fold: A Guide for Former Fundamentalists and Others Leaving Their Religion by Marlene Winell 2006 EPUB, 1.39 MB)

11:30:03 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   ::https://www.nytimes.com/2019/05/25/opinion/the-day-christian-fundamentalism-was-born.html::

11:31:55 From katherine damico to Host and Panelists:

   Also on the tail end of Spanish/American Flu

11:34:04 From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Everyone:

   Aligned with today’s theme, in my view, the connection among dogma, authoritarianism and an anti-democracy ethos becomes salient.  In this light, I humbly offer a reference to an article I wrote awhile ago (2012) that still seems relevant today. It’s titled, “Beyond Dogma: The Role of ‘Evolutionary’ Science and the ‘Embodiment’ of Archetypal Energies.”  Here’s the link: ::https://www.academia.edu/7521956/Beyond_Dogma_The_Role_of_Evolutionary_Science_and_the_Embodiment_of_Archetypal_Energies::

11:34:24 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   ::https://truthout.org/authors/kali-holloway/:: (Other Holloway articles)

11:34:54 From Diego Reyes to Host and Panelists:

   🙏🏽

11:36:03 From Diego Reyes to Host and Panelists:

   So true!

11:41:35 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   ::https://www.netflix.com/title/80063867:: (The Family series. An enigmatic conservative Christian group known as the Family wields enormous influence in Washington, D.C., in pursuit of its global ambitions.)

11:53:23 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:

   Classic book on escaping Morman Fundamentalism, “Educated.”

11:55:06 From Carolyn Baker to Host and Panelists:

   RELIGIOUS INDOCTRINATION DIAGRAM  (Source:  RTS Treatment and Psychoeducation (CORT talk) by Marlene Winell, Presented at the Conference on Religious Trauma, May 13, 2021, ::https://journeyfree.org/rts-treatment-and-psychoeducation/::

11:56:33 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   ::https://marlenewinell.net/::

11:56:43 From Marcel de Berg to Everyone:

   As a non believer, I find the view of Carolyn quite refreshing. It gives me a better understanding of fundamental religion. Also a better understanding of the forces in the US. Thank you.

11:57:29 From Marcia Raff to Everyone:

   We can’t copy from the chat here so we have to wait for Stanley’s recording, is that right?

11:57:46 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:

   Sadly, Marcia, yes

11:57:50 From Marcia Raff to Everyone:

   So great that you’re recording Stanley!

11:59:59 From Marcia Raff to Everyone:

   Carolyn is doing a great job explaining how it really is right now and great way she has given us the history.

12:00:19 From Marcel de Berg to Everyone:

   Unfortunatedly I have to run to a next meeting, will relook the recording. Thank you Carolyn.

12:01:00 From Marcia Raff to Everyone:

   We have to thank Mike Pence for not caving in.

12:02:14 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:

   Thank you so much for writing this book, Carolyn, and for this enlightening presentation. I resonate so deeply with what you're sharing.

12:02:46 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:

   Vote and ESPECIALLY for SHERIFFS!

12:03:34 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   AS recommended by Kurt Krueger:

      ::https://book4you.org/book/3429495/5e52b7:: (Educated: A Memoir by Tara Westover 2018 EPUB, 1.88 MB)

12:04:12 From Carolyn Baker to Host and Panelists:

   Read the writings of Timothy Snyder, Jason Stanley, Ruth Ben Ghiat—all are modern historians specializing in understanding the growing trends toward fascism in the US.

12:04:57 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:

   Much thanks for this great presentation, and look forward to reading your work

12:04:57 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:

   Fabulous article!

12:05:13 From Noel Moore Moore to Everyone:

   I heard that to change voting rights.....we need to do it from the bottom - up...…..that all the times voting rights changed for the people, is when the people organized and rise up...….we need to organize ourselves and protest and mail out letters and flood the phone lines etc....

12:05:32 From Peter Whitehouse to Everyone:

   Why are "mainstream" religious Christian groups noot more vocal against Christofascists?

12:05:47 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:

   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.   

   You can join the After Chat here:

   ::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::

   Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451

   Passcode: 919541   

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12:05:48 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:

   How about Fierce LOVE! Keep focussed on the Force of Love in Action.

12:05:52 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   Ten week book discussion of "On Tyranny" by Timothy Snyder STARTS tomorrow Jan. 22-March 26, 2-4pm PST. Details and RSVP at:  ::http://bit.ly/RSVP-OnTyranny::

12:05:58 From Kathryn Alexander, MA (joined via macro.io-) to Everyone:

   Good question, Peter!

12:06:12 From Kevin He/him Canada to Everyone:

   Globally planned, regionally organized and locally executed, planetary actions. #TellTheTruth

12:07:10 From Charles Bensinger to Everyone:

   Just this morning in Wisconsin major demonstrations are taking place around the state opposing state Gerrymandering. We’re calling for “Fair voting maps”.

12:07:29 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   ::https://www.timothysnyder.org/::

12:07:34 From Noel Moore Moore to Everyone:

   excellent Charles

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