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11:07:47 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
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Hooray.... We now have a whole year - 365 days worth of Humanity Rising Episodes!!! And even more, there are TWO sessions for this birthday-type event...
 
11:09:08 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
 
 
 
It would be great to discuss our understanding of gender and power after this session.
 
 
You can join the After Chat here:
 
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09
 
Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
 
Passcode: 919541
 
 
            ..oOo..
 
11:09:39 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
 
 
 
It would be great to discuss our understanding of gender and power after this session.
 
 
You can join the After Chat here:
 
https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09
 
Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
 
Passcode: 919541
 
 
            ..oOo..
 
11:10:50 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
You’re awesome V! Thank you for All you’ve offered our 🌎
 
11:11:03 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
 
 
 
Hooray, We now have a whole year - 365 days of Humanity Rising.
 
11:11:13 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
 
 
 
Thanks, V!! Welcome!
 
11:11:15 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
 
 
 
Thank you for being here and sharing with us!
 
11:14:10 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Right, the Ego was defensive mechanism in full bloom
 
11:15:46 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Wow, beautiful realization
 
11:18:02 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
So, Question: Is Patriarchal methodologies void of Spirituality?
 
11:18:06 From Paul McCarthy to Everyone:
 
 
 
I have been wrong a lot.  I am vulnerable and I apologize
 
11:18:25 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
 
 
 
Thank you, Paul.
 
11:18:49 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
 
 
 
Hats off to you Paul McCarthy…
 
11:19:07 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Yes, you’re walking the Spiritual path, Paul🙏
 
11:20:10 From Aida to Everyone:
 
 
 
Good to know, Paul.  It’s good to have such helpful examples.
 
11:22:12 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
 
 
 
Dehanna, I wonder… patriarchal methodologies of TODAY seem to be void of Spirituality, however, that seems symptomatic of the entire culture.
 
11:22:53 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
 
 
 
Let me start the apologies... I have to admit my intrusive behavior in the crowded stairs between classes in high school. It was easy to bump against women in that situation and "get a feel" of a breast... It's not something that I have ever mentioned to anyone till just right now. I have to thank my general being of who I am to not have a more egregious offense to admit to.
 
11:24:23 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
@Shannon, Indicative of the Planetary transformation to Divine Feminine rising in ALL  of us…no matter what gender🙌
 
11:24:42 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
 
 
 
I apologize to all the women who I touched by bumping up against their breasts.
 
11:25:01 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Vulnerability is a Strength! That’s the 1st Reality Check!
 
11:25:09 From Aida to Everyone:
 
 
 
From my work with Angeles Arrien, I learned something about the power of apology.  She introduced me to the idea of asking for an apology.  so in the spirit of healing the wounding between us, I asked my ex husband for an apology.  When we met, he said I can’t or won’t (honestly can’t remember which) apologize to you.  But I will apologize to “our relationship.”  That response has confounded me, up until now.  Time to release it.
 
11:25:10 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
 
 
 
Thank you, too, Stanley..
 
11:26:00 From Paul McCarthy to Everyone:
 
 
 
In Men's Work processes there is work around forgiving fathers  -- these are powerful exercises
 
11:26:36 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:
 
 
 
I see you Stanley.  I wasn't there, but I accept your apology on behalf of myself
 
11:27:29 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
 
 
 
Aida,  I think that so many men feel competitive with their wives in the marital relationship and don’t want to be the “loser”
 
11:27:34 From Paul McCarthy to Everyone:
 
 
 
I live in a socialist country
 
11:27:48 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
 
 
 
Aho, V. I agree. Learning how to apologize is important. Specificity is important is a very important aspect rarely put into words.
 
11:27:56 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:
 
 
 
in the absence of an apology, is forgiveness the best thing we can do in order to let go
 
11:27:59 From Aida to Everyone:
 
 
 
Thanks, Amy.  That helps
 
11:28:01 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Yes, Paul “the sins of the father” is an ancient saying. Why?
 
11:28:39 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:
 
 
 
….and women say 'Sorry"  all the time... for existing or breathing
 
11:28:47 From Paul McCarthy to Everyone:
 
 
 
The land of men damaged by their fathers -- and then on to their sons by example -- and it continues
 
11:29:13 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
 
 
 
We women are taught to be deferential.  I seem to have been a poor learner!
 
11:30:57 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
 
 
 
I think the pillar story of patriarchy is the preparation of Abraham to kill Isaac.  Message being, even your own father will kill you if higher authority commands it.  Mean fear getting out of rank.
 
11:31:08 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
 
 
 
Men fear
 
11:31:35 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:
 
 
 
a friend of mine was sexually abused by her father, a high profile judge,  for many years, when it all came out, he confessed he believed he did it for her own good.....maybe they really believe this
 
11:32:05 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Bizarre, Alecia
 
11:32:25 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
 
 
 
Some sexually abusing “caught” priests have made such claims of “for their own good” as well.
 
11:32:37 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:
 
 
 
very twisted for sure
 
11:33:24 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
V you are unwinding the twist
 
11:33:46 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
 
 
 
My friend was abused by her father and grandfather. She killed herself.
 
11:33:57 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
 
 
 
We ARE the 7th generation… NOW is the time for healing. Let The Apology ring out, and be heard.
 
11:34:10 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Right, Jim…validating the atrocity is poignant
 
11:34:48 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:
 
 
 
Id like the Catholic Church to apologize to all the women burned at the stake for being natural healers
 
11:35:07 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
 
 
 
Aho, Alecia.
 
11:36:15 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Right On, Alecia👏
 
11:38:00 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
The detail of your journey, V, is extraordinary!
 
11:38:27 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
 
 
 
Your courage V is simply amazing.
 
11:38:39 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
 
 
 
Stan - thank you!
 
11:39:52 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
 
 
 
Absolutely, Eve….how patriarchy has damaged, not only women and children but yes, men too…and this layered acknowledgement and understanding, so vital if we are to evolve our consciousness…and perhaps save ourselves…? SO grateful for these crucial conversations, Eve, Jim, and all of you….
 
11:40:29 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
 
 
 
ANOTHER connector with nature is The Four Sacred Gifts, a great book by an indigenous elder, Anita Sanchez - Forgiving the Unforgivable is the first of The Four Sacred Gifts,
 
11:41:40 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
 
 
 
It took me 4,500 years to apologize for killing my son. It freed both of us and allowed him to finally grow in places he couldn’t grow before.
 
11:43:18 From Lion Goodman to Everyone:
 
 
 
My apology to women, written 15 years ago:  https://liongoodman.com/an-open-apology-to-women/
 
11:44:11 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
 
 
 
Thank you, Lion.
 
11:45:44 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Beautiful Lion, 🙏
 
11:46:02 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:
 
 
 
The apology and forgiveness must transform the entire landscape of the field, of the dynamic of what is, or what is possible, the fabric of the Real to redeem the inherent sacredness, in and beyond time, of the one who has been offended, abused or challenged, as the omnipotent divine itself
 
11:46:06 From jennifer carter to Everyone:
 
 
 
Desmond Tutu says forgiveness is not required for conciliation which has many levels.
 
11:46:45 From jennifer carter to Everyone:
 
 
 
forgiveness is a miracle some call an act of grace
 
11:46:48 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
 
 
 
All forgiveness is self-forgiveness, based on idea we are all One.
 
11:46:51 From Lion Goodman to Everyone:
 
 
 
A person who does not know they are in prison can’t escape.
 
11:46:54 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:
 
 
 
So, with the thought of a "Man" being equally woman, and a "Woman" being equally a man.  What would the apology be like if the "Man", from an embodied consciousness of woman, embrace "himself" as woman, feeling the experience of woman and then apologies to self. A "Man" actually taking in the woman and feeling the experience of "Woman" and going through the process of that "trauma/experience", and forgiving their own, self-inflicted man, as woman.  Imagine the possibility of healing that would take place, along with the breaking of one and creating of another with regard to legacy.
 
11:47:02 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
 
 
 
English Standard Version
 
And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” And they cast lots to divide his garments.
 
11:47:04 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
This liberation is imperative for fertile ground to sow the seed of forgiveness, true V
 
11:48:24 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Beautiful insight…
 
11:48:35 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:
 
 
 
so what of retribution or accountability for other?
 
11:49:12 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
 
 
 
What an insight and liberation to listen to you, V.
 
11:49:21 From Lion Goodman to Everyone:
 
 
 
Part of amends is, “I will never do that, or anything like that, ever again.”
 
11:49:25 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
 
 
 
https://www.clarion-journal.com/clarion_journal_of_spirit/2011/08/brad-jersak-simone-weil-on-forgive-us-our-debts.html
 
11:50:03 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
It’s a process… and deep intelligence/empathy of Spiritual awareness!
 
11:50:34 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
There is “HOPE”
 
11:51:43 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:
 
 
 
I am recalling - thinking about the destruction of women and nature that we are dealing with in our world and this series of cycles in Humanity Rising- profoundly honoring the Truth we are calling forth for healing - a woman saying, “Lord, kick them in the ass, fir they know god damn well what they are doing!”
 
11:51:51 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:
 
 
 
@Leo was just thinking about you. Thanks!
 
11:52:40 From Jane Norton to Everyone:
 
 
 
Kala, you said it so well!
 
11:53:11 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
 
 
 
Wondrous human beings with wings in the world - may it be so!!!
 
11:53:42 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:
 
 
 
Patriarchy has destroyed the planet...it is the single worst problem and cause of everything...not to blame men, its embodied in our culture, men and women, for thousands of years
 
11:54:05 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:
 
 
 
Deeply respecting the profundity of our human journey transforming this “whole catastrophe”
 
11:54:05 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
 
 
 
Alecia - yes!
 
11:54:14 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:
 
 
 
a return to Divine Feminine is the remedy
 
11:55:17 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
 
 
 
Oh, Alecia... and Kathryn, too thank you for your kindness.
 
11:56:02 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:
 
 
 
I think it leads back to what I wrote earlier.  We are a Human,  we identify as a gender, which we are actually not.  The body is a vehicle for spirit, and for God/Consciousness to experience self.  The short coming is our not yet identifying as fully a spirit in inhabiting human
 
11:56:16 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
 
 
 
https://www.buboquote.com/en/quotes/tag/72-forgiveness
 
Quotes for "forgiveness" including "I also am other than what I imagine myself to be. To know this is forgiveness.” -- Simone Weil
 
11:56:45 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:
 
 
 
YES!!!
 
11:56:53 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
 
 
 
Perfectly said, Alecia…our ongoing ‘rapacious assault’ upon Mother Nature….and we women are not innocent….we BUY into it…it is for us ALL to own our complicity….
 
11:56:59 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Touché
 
11:58:09 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
 
 
 
Yes, those old paradigms pushing back as we evolve… grateful to the youth, too!
 
11:58:39 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
 
 
 
When Jim spoke those word of apology at the start i broke into tears. To actually hear those words….
 
11:59:24 From Lion Goodman to Everyone:
 
 
 
@Kathryn:  Please read my words, as well: https://liongoodman.com/an-open-apology-to-women/
 
11:59:25 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Yes, Kathryn, Dearheart, very poignant 🙏
 
11:59:49 From Aida to Everyone:
 
 
 
not only intensity, but intentionally
 
12:00:24 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Yes! Galvanized the “inner selves”!
 
12:00:26 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:
 
 
 
....and the assault on Indigenous cultures, other races...The patriarch is the only thing in the way of humanity's evolution into Unity consciousness...but I don't know if its fighting the patriarchy that is the solution..., or going toward Unity that is the answer.  I think the later.
 
12:00:50 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:
 
 
 
if the rise of the "new-archy" is not balanced, we will have the same paradigm, but castration.  Until we truly live the Spirit that is our ignition of life, then we will continue the differences.
 
12:01:08 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
 
 
 
Oh Lion - thank you - tears.
 
12:01:11 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
THE BIG RECKONING
 
12:01:22 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
 
 
 
https://fleurmach.com/2016/03/03/simone-weil-void-and-compensation/ (Excerpt from Simone Weil‘s Gravity and Grace. First French edition 1947. Translated by Emma Crawford. English language edition 1963. Routledge and Kegan Paul, London.)
 
12:01:42 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:
 
 
 
It feels like the rebirth of the oppressed, to call out the oppressors, as the youth calling out the patriarchy, is the omnipotent alchemical transformative resurrection of the Divine Feminine the Omnipotent Trans-gendered One, Abode of all
 
12:02:53 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Absolutely, Kala!
 
12:03:26 From Aida to Everyone:
 
 
 
I hope when you gather these recordings that there is a possibility of buying individual sessions.  I would love to have the  recording of this conversation with V (Eve Ensler)
 
12:03:36 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
 
 
 
The spirit is calling for that revolution for that cleaning, for that clearing. We WANT to be reborn!
 
12:03:47 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
The “Equality Perspective” is being Birthed!
 
12:03:53 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
HaHa
 
12:04:00 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:
 
 
 
such polarity....just leads to more war
 
12:04:04 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
 
 
 
A Becket landscape!
 
12:04:07 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Becket storm
 
12:04:32 From jennifer carter to Everyone:
 
 
 
1. the voices of the poor are not here ~ how will we become inclusive ?
 
12:04:36 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Yes, Jim is a Master!
 
12:06:08 From jennifer carter to Everyone:
 
 
 
2. how do we relate to those addicted to the victim mentality, struggle to welcome apologies and distrusting change
 
12:06:11 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
 
 
 
Unity…yes!  And for us all to take ownership, together and see the PROJECTING of the threatened patriarchal status quo as they’re loosing their power and identity because the value of Feminine principle is at last being valued….right here, right now and beautifully so …what a relief it feels….
 
12:06:20 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
 
 
 
George - I have SO seen how often that is true - it is the realization of that that is so freeing. But one has to FEEL to get to that deep understanding.
 
12:06:32 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
The Alchemy of Consciousness
 
12:07:30 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
 
 
 
we would LOVE YOUR PARTICIPATION on this quest…The VISION/slogan for the Peace LAB is “Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace.” It's happening in the right time. Thank God!
 
 
When you have any more ideas that could bring peace in any manner, anywhere, anytime, please apply it and then share it ~ with us too… Peace LAB: https://OtherNetworks.org/peace_lab
 
 
You know that when we take some responsibility for being the Peace where we are, we are then models for others to follow ~ the ripples begin with us!
 
 
Here’s an 15 minute video on a psycho-somatic-spiritual PeaceMaker Meditation. https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace. will reverberate throughout your day… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and ‘others.’
 
 
Groups are forming together or through teleconference to bring more Peace to our home planet. Together we fly more easily ~ like the two wings of a bird…
 
12:07:51 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
 
 
 
 
 
The Peace LAB practices/programs dramatically reduces violence, recidivism,  and wars… We get what we focus upon. Let's share our ideas and expertise.
 
 
Lots of Love,
 
K.A. Krueger
 
Member, Peace LAB
 
Peace LAB:
 
LABoratory ~ experiments, investigates, researches, and explorations, and some emergent design … ALSO
 
LAByrinth ~ one winding, irregular, peaceful path in and out!
 
 
Be the PeaceMaker radiating Peace.
 
12:07:58 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:
 
 
 
V So have you forgiven your mother for not protecting you?
 
12:08:10 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
 
 
 
We are creating it, V, through speaking as you do. You are walking the path so others can see how it’s done. Thank you, and I’m sorry you had to be the one who did the walking.
 
12:08:19 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Now the tears are flowing, amazing conversation 🙏
 
12:08:23 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
 
 
 
Rick, may I copy the chat???
 
12:08:36 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:
 
 
 
Eve IS Eve, the Goddess calling forth, demanding the LOVE, the Healing, the Truth of Life and Nature as Living Love
 
12:08:54 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
 
 
 
Satya is a group that has been working around the world to reconcile abusers and abused - amazing work!
 
12:09:10 From Inga Carey to Everyone:
 
 
 
wow, will look into Satya
 
12:09:18 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
 
 
 
https://aleteia.org/2020/09/11/want-true-force-try-forgiveness/  It seems easier to wipe out our enemies. But in the end, we're wiping out ourselves.... Weil speaks of the horror of war, describing every soul enslaved to war as “crying out for deliverance.” The soul wedded to vengeance is similarly enslaved. We do not keep grudges; like force, they begin to possess us, until we are left emptied, lifeless.
 
12:09:49 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:
 
 
 
@V That will take the emergence of fully complex beings as the dominant consciousness inhabiting The Earth
 
12:09:50 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:
 
 
 
The Goddess is rising
 
12:09:59 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:
 
 
 
Thank you!
 
12:10:35 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
 
 
 
Thank you for the City of Joy!  We yearn and work for the world where we can use our gifts cooperatively for betterment, not blocked by need for healing.
 
12:10:56 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
 
 
 
IMAGINE:
 
 
You are thriving in the future. Everyone experiences Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace.
 
 
You are the last elder alive who ever experienced anything other than peace, “How did we get to have Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace?”
 
 
What is the answer given?
 
 
The more the detail, in as many areas of living, provides the path forward from these primitive times.
 
12:11:18 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Right, Thriving not Surviving
 
12:12:08 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
 
 
 
Yes V!
 
12:12:31 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:
 
 
 
Hurray!! Yes, Yes, YES! A world where the genius of Love is allowed, is flourished, Is Reality, the only Reality
 
12:12:34 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Imagine the World you want to live in!
 
12:12:40 From Ruth Hawe to Host and Panelists:
 
 
 
Peacelab, thanks for inviting ideas, have you read “World Peace Diet” by Dr Will Tuttle? Its a wonderful description of the underlying violence throughout human culture due to speciesism ~ the abuse, commodification and otherisation of our fellow Earthlings. As long as violent food is the dark heart of our sustainence system then we will continue to treat one another with similar lack of compassion.
 
12:12:40 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
 
 
 
I am wondering what our friend Carroy (CUF) Ferguson might have to offer this conversation?
 
12:12:50 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
 
 
 
We are the imaginal cells reorganizing and revitalizing in preparation...
 
12:14:09 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Yes, Rita, the imaginal cells are part of the cathartic transformation of a caterpillar to a butterfly 🦋
 
12:14:15 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
 
 
 
Ruth please change the tool at the bottom of the chat to "Everyone" I will copy your comment here: Ruth Hawe to Host and Panelists (12:12 PM)
 
Peacelab, thanks for inviting ideas, have you read “World Peace Diet” by Dr Will Tuttle? Its a wonderful description of the underlying violence throughout human culture due to speciesism ~ the abuse, commodification and otherisation of our fellow Earthlings. As long as violent food is the dark heart of our sustainence system then we will continue to treat one another with similar lack of compassion.
 
12:15:19 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Yes, Family Constellation work…Apologies accessed & accepted!
 
12:15:36 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
 
 
 
Thank you, Stanley, for sharing Ruth’s comment.
 
12:16:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
 
 
 
Please remember to include Everyone here in the chatbox so we can all see what you say. Thank you!
 
12:16:25 From Ruth Hawe to Everyone:
 
 
 
Oh thanks so much Stanley x
 
12:16:37 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
 
 
 
@Dehanna - thanks for the mention of Family Constellation work/process.
 
12:17:35 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:
 
 
 
@Lion @V and to embrace the acts we have committed that offend other and embrace that same pain we have inflicted on ourselves, apologizing for not embracing and defending that part of ourselves.
 
12:18:07 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Wow! Powerful story V! I saw you off Broadway do VM! Awesome
 
12:18:50 From Susan Maley to Everyone:
 
 
 
Lion: While "both genders have hurt each other" It is not equal. The historical and current reality of women is being 'prey' as a result of patriarchy is a thread of dread at a deep visceral level. This is akin to the bodily trauma people of color carry while going about their lives in the world .
 
12:18:56 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:
 
 
 
how to deal with someone who refuses to apologize...
 
12:19:11 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Apologies are Humanistic
 
12:19:19 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:
 
 
 
animal V. conditioning V. Spirit
 
12:19:35 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
 
 
 
Susan, spot on. I am very tired of being “prey.”  What a waste of energy.
 
12:19:36 From Clare Hedin to Everyone:
 
 
 
leave them alone. (people who refuse to apologise) - it’s a long wait otherwise
 
12:19:48 From metta flows to Host and Panelists:
 
 
 
What do you think of directly asking for apology from a living person, V?
 
12:19:51 From John Ruffin to Host and Panelists:
 
 
 
There is such an important element here that you have mentioned, V, regarding getting in touch with the pain and tar that has lived in the heart of the perpetrator and may well have been carried from the past “7 generations”… exposing that, hating it, killing it off, and finding the deeper compassion for the horror in their own lives…. You found that and it helped set you both free…
 
12:20:03 From jennifer carter to Everyone:
 
 
 
how to deal with people that won't accept apologies?
 
12:20:17 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
 
 
 
Susan, I believe we have ALL been both men and women so I see we ALL have to apologize to each other and to ourselves.
 
12:20:32 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
 
 
 
Brilliant…all of you!
 
12:20:52 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:
 
 
 
V, you’ve been “ahead of your time” but able to change the time!
 
12:21:02 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:
 
 
 
I agree Kathryn...
 
12:21:18 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:
 
 
 
Thank you so much!
 
12:21:30 From Susan Maley to Everyone:
 
 
 
A personal belief in reincarnation is a choice that doesn't counter the reality of the physical and emotional experience of those in female bodies now
 
12:21:32 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Yep! My Son is definitely the new ideology of being a Human not Man!
 
12:21:36 From Lion Goodman to Everyone:
 
 
 
https://liongoodman.com/an-open-apology-to-women/
 
12:21:39 From kathryn davison to Host and Panelists:
 
 
 
An incredible, landscape-changing interaction, thank you so much.
 
12:21:40 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:
 
 
 
My ex-husband came to me finally and apologized for his horrific behavior during our thirty year marriage.  The truth was that it felt so insignificant and insincere when he delivered it.  Like someone had told him that was what he needed to do but it didn't feel heartfelt.  I do wish that I had quizzed him more as to where this apology originated from.  He died a few years ago.  I can't go back to retrieve that time.
 
12:21:44 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
 
 
 
Jennifer and Walter... please excuse my intrusion, but I believe your questions in the Q&A box deserve to be seen by a larger audience: jennifer carter      12:09 PM
 
please, define resilient...or allow Mother Nature to define resilience...it's bigger than response to abuse
 
 
Walter J Sheedlo      12:14 PM
 
The reality of women being raped is a reality - ok?  Now what is it happening within the mind/heart of the raper (the one who rapes).  And how do those hearts/minds deprived be restored and move through and beyond that neediness of human life.
 
12:22:00 From E F to Host and Panelists:
 
 
 
Is Jim Garrison associated with a particular organization? How might I contact him? Thank you
 
12:22:07 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
 
 
 
Another profound discussion. V - what an amazing capacity to articulate the truth.
 
12:22:15 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:
 
 
 
Awesome transformative dialogue🙏Thank you
 
12:22:18 From John Ruffin to Host and Panelists:
 
 
 
This work is revolutionary and so relevant for the climate crisis that has been perpetrated by patriarchy… and demands and APOLOGY..
 
12:22:20 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
V FOR PRESIDENT
 
12:22:23 From Inga Carey to Everyone:
 
 
 
PROFOUND! I want to follow you V!
 
12:22:23 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:
 
 
 
V, I want to hear more from you.
 
12:22:24 From metta flows to Host and Panelists:
 
 
 
Thank you so much for the opportunity to experience this conversation!!!!
 
12:22:25 From Musa Kalaora to Everyone:
 
 
 
Accepting that i am a human being who is going to mess up (no shame or blame), I choose to own it (the sooner the better) and then make amends, to make things better.
 
12:22:27 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
 
 
 
Blessings all!
 
12:22:34 From kathryn davison to Everyone:
 
 
 
Please, encore!
 
12:22:42 From Clare Hedin to Everyone:
 
 
 
thank you for today 🙏
 
12:22:43 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
 
 
 
Christine, V’s dad died before, and V brought him through. Your work may not be done…
 
12:22:48 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:
 
 
 
If I may...What a Joy filled Beauty!
 
12:22:49 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
 
 
 
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With love...
 
 
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
 
 
You can join the After Chat here:
 
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12:22:53 From Carole Morales to Everyone:
 
 
 
Link on apology doesn't work
 
12:22:54 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:
 
 
 
Yes, please encore
 
12:22:56 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:
 
 
 
Thank you!
 
12:22:57 From Inga Carey to Everyone:
 
 
 
beautiful men! thank you!
 
12:22:57 From Jen Forti to Everyone:
 
 
 
Thank you all <3
 
12:23:02 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
 
 
 
Much gratitude V bringing joy!
 
12:23:04 From Myra L JACKSON JACKSON to Everyone:
 
 
 
Amazing. Thank you V - as an Black Woman - it was great to be with you and the Men here today….
 
12:23:06 From Dr Maura Conlon to Host and Panelists:
 
 
 
♥️
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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... 11:05:45 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:


Warm greetings from Wichita lands. Please indicate Everyone here in the chatbox to be part of the ongoing conversation, sharing our views and experience about what Jim and his panelists share. This is the fun part!

11:07:47 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:


Hooray.... We now have a whole year - 365 days worth of Humanity Rising Episodes!!! And even more, there are TWO sessions for this birthday-type event...

11:09:08 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:


It would be great to discuss our understanding of gender and power after this session.


You can join the After Chat here:

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09

Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451

Passcode: 919541


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11:09:39 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:


It would be great to discuss our understanding of gender and power after this session.


You can join the After Chat here:

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09

Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451

Passcode: 919541


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11:10:50 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


You’re awesome V! Thank you for All you’ve offered our 🌎

11:11:03 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:


Hooray, We now have a whole year - 365 days of Humanity Rising.

11:11:13 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:


Thanks, V!! Welcome!

11:11:15 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:


Thank you for being here and sharing with us!

11:14:10 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Right, the Ego was defensive mechanism in full bloom

11:15:46 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Wow, beautiful realization

11:18:02 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


So, Question: Is Patriarchal methodologies void of Spirituality?

11:18:06 From Paul McCarthy to Everyone:


I have been wrong a lot. I am vulnerable and I apologize

11:18:25 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:


Thank you, Paul.

11:18:49 From jude Asphar to Everyone:


Hats off to you Paul McCarthy…

11:19:07 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Yes, you’re walking the Spiritual path, Paul🙏

11:20:10 From Aida to Everyone:


Good to know, Paul. It’s good to have such helpful examples.

11:22:12 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:


Dehanna, I wonder… patriarchal methodologies of TODAY seem to be void of Spirituality, however, that seems symptomatic of the entire culture.

11:22:53 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:


Let me start the apologies... I have to admit my intrusive behavior in the crowded stairs between classes in high school. It was easy to bump against women in that situation and "get a feel" of a breast... It's not something that I have ever mentioned to anyone till just right now. I have to thank my general being of who I am to not have a more egregious offense to admit to.

11:24:23 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


@Shannon, Indicative of the Planetary transformation to Divine Feminine rising in ALL of us…no matter what gender🙌

11:24:42 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:


I apologize to all the women who I touched by bumping up against their breasts.

11:25:01 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Vulnerability is a Strength! That’s the 1st Reality Check!

11:25:09 From Aida to Everyone:


From my work with Angeles Arrien, I learned something about the power of apology. She introduced me to the idea of asking for an apology. so in the spirit of healing the wounding between us, I asked my ex husband for an apology. When we met, he said I can’t or won’t (honestly can’t remember which) apologize to you. But I will apologize to “our relationship.” That response has confounded me, up until now. Time to release it.

11:25:10 From jude Asphar to Everyone:


Thank you, too, Stanley..

11:26:00 From Paul McCarthy to Everyone:


In Men's Work processes there is work around forgiving fathers -- these are powerful exercises

11:26:36 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:


I see you Stanley. I wasn't there, but I accept your apology on behalf of myself

11:27:29 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:


Aida, I think that so many men feel competitive with their wives in the marital relationship and don’t want to be the “loser”

11:27:34 From Paul McCarthy to Everyone:


I live in a socialist country

11:27:48 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:


Aho, V. I agree. Learning how to apologize is important. Specificity is important is a very important aspect rarely put into words.

11:27:56 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:


in the absence of an apology, is forgiveness the best thing we can do in order to let go

11:27:59 From Aida to Everyone:


Thanks, Amy. That helps

11:28:01 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Yes, Paul “the sins of the father” is an ancient saying. Why?

11:28:39 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:


….and women say 'Sorry" all the time... for existing or breathing

11:28:47 From Paul McCarthy to Everyone:


The land of men damaged by their fathers -- and then on to their sons by example -- and it continues

11:29:13 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:


We women are taught to be deferential. I seem to have been a poor learner!

11:30:57 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:


I think the pillar story of patriarchy is the preparation of Abraham to kill Isaac. Message being, even your own father will kill you if higher authority commands it. Mean fear getting out of rank.

11:31:08 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:


Men fear

11:31:35 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:


a friend of mine was sexually abused by her father, a high profile judge, for many years, when it all came out, he confessed he believed he did it for her own good.....maybe they really believe this

11:32:05 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Bizarre, Alecia

11:32:25 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:


Some sexually abusing “caught” priests have made such claims of “for their own good” as well.

11:32:37 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:


very twisted for sure

11:33:24 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


V you are unwinding the twist

11:33:46 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:


My friend was abused by her father and grandfather. She killed herself.

11:33:57 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:


We ARE the 7th generation… NOW is the time for healing. Let The Apology ring out, and be heard.

11:34:10 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Right, Jim…validating the atrocity is poignant

11:34:48 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:


Id like the Catholic Church to apologize to all the women burned at the stake for being natural healers

11:35:07 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:


Aho, Alecia.

11:36:15 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Right On, Alecia👏

11:38:00 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


The detail of your journey, V, is extraordinary!

11:38:27 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:


Your courage V is simply amazing.

11:38:39 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:


Stan - thank you!

11:39:52 From jude Asphar to Everyone:


Absolutely, Eve….how patriarchy has damaged, not only women and children but yes, men too…and this layered acknowledgement and understanding, so vital if we are to evolve our consciousness…and perhaps save ourselves…? SO grateful for these crucial conversations, Eve, Jim, and all of you….

11:40:29 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:


ANOTHER connector with nature is The Four Sacred Gifts, a great book by an indigenous elder, Anita Sanchez - Forgiving the Unforgivable is the first of The Four Sacred Gifts,

11:41:40 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:


It took me 4,500 years to apologize for killing my son. It freed both of us and allowed him to finally grow in places he couldn’t grow before.

11:43:18 From Lion Goodman to Everyone:


My apology to women, written 15 years ago: https://liongoodman.com/an-open-apology-to-women/

11:44:11 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:


Thank you, Lion.

11:45:44 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Beautiful Lion, 🙏

11:46:02 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:


The apology and forgiveness must transform the entire landscape of the field, of the dynamic of what is, or what is possible, the fabric of the Real to redeem the inherent sacredness, in and beyond time, of the one who has been offended, abused or challenged, as the omnipotent divine itself

11:46:06 From jennifer carter to Everyone:


Desmond Tutu says forgiveness is not required for conciliation which has many levels.

11:46:45 From jennifer carter to Everyone:


forgiveness is a miracle some call an act of grace

11:46:48 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:


All forgiveness is self-forgiveness, based on idea we are all One.

11:46:51 From Lion Goodman to Everyone:


A person who does not know they are in prison can’t escape.

11:46:54 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:


So, with the thought of a "Man" being equally woman, and a "Woman" being equally a man. What would the apology be like if the "Man", from an embodied consciousness of woman, embrace "himself" as woman, feeling the experience of woman and then apologies to self. A "Man" actually taking in the woman and feeling the experience of "Woman" and going through the process of that "trauma/experience", and forgiving their own, self-inflicted man, as woman. Imagine the possibility of healing that would take place, along with the breaking of one and creating of another with regard to legacy.

11:47:02 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:


English Standard Version

And Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do.” And they cast lots to divide his garments.

11:47:04 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


This liberation is imperative for fertile ground to sow the seed of forgiveness, true V

11:48:24 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Beautiful insight…

11:48:35 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:


so what of retribution or accountability for other?

11:49:12 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:


What an insight and liberation to listen to you, V.

11:49:21 From Lion Goodman to Everyone:


Part of amends is, “I will never do that, or anything like that, ever again.”

11:49:25 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:


https://www.clarion-journal.com/clarion_journal_of_spirit/2011/08/brad-jersak-simone-weil-on-forgive-us-our-debts.html

11:50:03 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


It’s a process… and deep intelligence/empathy of Spiritual awareness!

11:50:34 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


There is “HOPE”

11:51:43 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:


I am recalling - thinking about the destruction of women and nature that we are dealing with in our world and this series of cycles in Humanity Rising- profoundly honoring the Truth we are calling forth for healing - a woman saying, “Lord, kick them in the ass, fir they know god damn well what they are doing!”

11:51:51 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:


@Leo was just thinking about you. Thanks!

11:52:40 From Jane Norton to Everyone:


Kala, you said it so well!

11:53:11 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:


Wondrous human beings with wings in the world - may it be so!!!

11:53:42 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:


Patriarchy has destroyed the planet...it is the single worst problem and cause of everything...not to blame men, its embodied in our culture, men and women, for thousands of years

11:54:05 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:


Deeply respecting the profundity of our human journey transforming this “whole catastrophe”

11:54:05 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:


Alecia - yes!

11:54:14 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:


a return to Divine Feminine is the remedy

11:55:17 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:


Oh, Alecia... and Kathryn, too thank you for your kindness.

11:56:02 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:


I think it leads back to what I wrote earlier. We are a Human, we identify as a gender, which we are actually not. The body is a vehicle for spirit, and for God/Consciousness to experience self. The short coming is our not yet identifying as fully a spirit in inhabiting human

11:56:16 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:


https://www.buboquote.com/en/quotes/tag/72-forgiveness

Quotes for "forgiveness" including "I also am other than what I imagine myself to be. To know this is forgiveness.” -- Simone Weil

11:56:45 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:


YES!!!

11:56:53 From jude Asphar to Everyone:


Perfectly said, Alecia…our ongoing ‘rapacious assault’ upon Mother Nature….and we women are not innocent….we BUY into it…it is for us ALL to own our complicity….

11:56:59 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Touché

11:58:09 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:


Yes, those old paradigms pushing back as we evolve… grateful to the youth, too!

11:58:39 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:


When Jim spoke those word of apology at the start i broke into tears. To actually hear those words….

11:59:24 From Lion Goodman to Everyone:


@Kathryn: Please read my words, as well: https://liongoodman.com/an-open-apology-to-women/

11:59:25 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Yes, Kathryn, Dearheart, very poignant 🙏

11:59:49 From Aida to Everyone:


not only intensity, but intentionally

12:00:24 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Yes! Galvanized the “inner selves”!

12:00:26 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:


....and the assault on Indigenous cultures, other races...The patriarch is the only thing in the way of humanity's evolution into Unity consciousness...but I don't know if its fighting the patriarchy that is the solution..., or going toward Unity that is the answer. I think the later.

12:00:50 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:


if the rise of the "new-archy" is not balanced, we will have the same paradigm, but castration. Until we truly live the Spirit that is our ignition of life, then we will continue the differences.

12:01:08 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:


Oh Lion - thank you - tears.

12:01:11 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


THE BIG RECKONING

12:01:22 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:


https://fleurmach.com/2016/03/03/simone-weil-void-and-compensation/ (Excerpt from Simone Weil‘s Gravity and Grace. First French edition 1947. Translated by Emma Crawford. English language edition 1963. Routledge and Kegan Paul, London.)

12:01:42 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:


It feels like the rebirth of the oppressed, to call out the oppressors, as the youth calling out the patriarchy, is the omnipotent alchemical transformative resurrection of the Divine Feminine the Omnipotent Trans-gendered One, Abode of all

12:02:53 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Absolutely, Kala!

12:03:26 From Aida to Everyone:


I hope when you gather these recordings that there is a possibility of buying individual sessions. I would love to have the recording of this conversation with V (Eve Ensler)

12:03:36 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:


The spirit is calling for that revolution for that cleaning, for that clearing. We WANT to be reborn!

12:03:47 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


The “Equality Perspective” is being Birthed!

12:03:53 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


HaHa

12:04:00 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:


such polarity....just leads to more war

12:04:04 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:


A Becket landscape!

12:04:07 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Becket storm

12:04:32 From jennifer carter to Everyone:


1. the voices of the poor are not here ~ how will we become inclusive ?

12:04:36 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Yes, Jim is a Master!

12:06:08 From jennifer carter to Everyone:


2. how do we relate to those addicted to the victim mentality, struggle to welcome apologies and distrusting change

12:06:11 From jude Asphar to Everyone:


Unity…yes! And for us all to take ownership, together and see the PROJECTING of the threatened patriarchal status quo as they’re loosing their power and identity because the value of Feminine principle is at last being valued….right here, right now and beautifully so …what a relief it feels….

12:06:20 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:


George - I have SO seen how often that is true - it is the realization of that that is so freeing. But one has to FEEL to get to that deep understanding.

12:06:32 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


The Alchemy of Consciousness

12:07:30 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:


we would LOVE YOUR PARTICIPATION on this quest…The VISION/slogan for the Peace LAB is “Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace.” It's happening in the right time. Thank God!


When you have any more ideas that could bring peace in any manner, anywhere, anytime, please apply it and then share it ~ with us too… Peace LAB: https://OtherNetworks.org/peace_lab


You know that when we take some responsibility for being the Peace where we are, we are then models for others to follow ~ the ripples begin with us!


Here’s an 15 minute video on a psycho-somatic-spiritual PeaceMaker Meditation. https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace. will reverberate throughout your day… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and ‘others.’


Groups are forming together or through teleconference to bring more Peace to our home planet. Together we fly more easily ~ like the two wings of a bird…

12:07:51 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:



The Peace LAB practices/programs dramatically reduces violence, recidivism, and wars… We get what we focus upon. Let's share our ideas and expertise.


Lots of Love,

K.A. Krueger

Member, Peace LAB

Peace LAB:

LABoratory ~ experiments, investigates, researches, and explorations, and some emergent design … ALSO

LAByrinth ~ one winding, irregular, peaceful path in and out!


Be the PeaceMaker radiating Peace.

12:07:58 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:


V So have you forgiven your mother for not protecting you?

12:08:10 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:


We are creating it, V, through speaking as you do. You are walking the path so others can see how it’s done. Thank you, and I’m sorry you had to be the one who did the walking.

12:08:19 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Now the tears are flowing, amazing conversation 🙏

12:08:23 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:


Rick, may I copy the chat???

12:08:36 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:


Eve IS Eve, the Goddess calling forth, demanding the LOVE, the Healing, the Truth of Life and Nature as Living Love

12:08:54 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:


Satya is a group that has been working around the world to reconcile abusers and abused - amazing work!

12:09:10 From Inga Carey to Everyone:


wow, will look into Satya

12:09:18 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:


https://aleteia.org/2020/09/11/want-true-force-try-forgiveness/ It seems easier to wipe out our enemies. But in the end, we're wiping out ourselves.... Weil speaks of the horror of war, describing every soul enslaved to war as “crying out for deliverance.” The soul wedded to vengeance is similarly enslaved. We do not keep grudges; like force, they begin to possess us, until we are left emptied, lifeless.

12:09:49 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:


@V That will take the emergence of fully complex beings as the dominant consciousness inhabiting The Earth

12:09:50 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:


The Goddess is rising

12:09:59 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Host and Panelists:


Thank you!

12:10:35 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:


Thank you for the City of Joy! We yearn and work for the world where we can use our gifts cooperatively for betterment, not blocked by need for healing.

12:10:56 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:


IMAGINE:


You are thriving in the future. Everyone experiences Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace.


You are the last elder alive who ever experienced anything other than peace, “How did we get to have Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace?”


What is the answer given?


The more the detail, in as many areas of living, provides the path forward from these primitive times.

12:11:18 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Right, Thriving not Surviving

12:12:08 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:


Yes V!

12:12:31 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:


Hurray!! Yes, Yes, YES! A world where the genius of Love is allowed, is flourished, Is Reality, the only Reality

12:12:34 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Imagine the World you want to live in!

12:12:40 From Ruth Hawe to Host and Panelists:


Peacelab, thanks for inviting ideas, have you read “World Peace Diet” by Dr Will Tuttle? Its a wonderful description of the underlying violence throughout human culture due to speciesism ~ the abuse, commodification and otherisation of our fellow Earthlings. As long as violent food is the dark heart of our sustainence system then we will continue to treat one another with similar lack of compassion.

12:12:40 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:


I am wondering what our friend Carroy (CUF) Ferguson might have to offer this conversation?

12:12:50 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:


We are the imaginal cells reorganizing and revitalizing in preparation...

12:14:09 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Yes, Rita, the imaginal cells are part of the cathartic transformation of a caterpillar to a butterfly 🦋

12:14:15 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:


Ruth please change the tool at the bottom of the chat to "Everyone" I will copy your comment here: Ruth Hawe to Host and Panelists (12:12 PM)

Peacelab, thanks for inviting ideas, have you read “World Peace Diet” by Dr Will Tuttle? Its a wonderful description of the underlying violence throughout human culture due to speciesism ~ the abuse, commodification and otherisation of our fellow Earthlings. As long as violent food is the dark heart of our sustainence system then we will continue to treat one another with similar lack of compassion.

12:15:19 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Yes, Family Constellation work…Apologies accessed & accepted!

12:15:36 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:


Thank you, Stanley, for sharing Ruth’s comment.

12:16:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:


Please remember to include Everyone here in the chatbox so we can all see what you say. Thank you!

12:16:25 From Ruth Hawe to Everyone:


Oh thanks so much Stanley x

12:16:37 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:


@Dehanna - thanks for the mention of Family Constellation work/process.

12:17:35 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:


@Lion @V and to embrace the acts we have committed that offend other and embrace that same pain we have inflicted on ourselves, apologizing for not embracing and defending that part of ourselves.

12:18:07 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Wow! Powerful story V! I saw you off Broadway do VM! Awesome

12:18:50 From Susan Maley to Everyone:


Lion: While "both genders have hurt each other" It is not equal. The historical and current reality of women is being 'prey' as a result of patriarchy is a thread of dread at a deep visceral level. This is akin to the bodily trauma people of color carry while going about their lives in the world .

12:18:56 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:


how to deal with someone who refuses to apologize...

12:19:11 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Apologies are Humanistic

12:19:19 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:


animal V. conditioning V. Spirit

12:19:35 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:


Susan, spot on. I am very tired of being “prey.” What a waste of energy.

12:19:36 From Clare Hedin to Everyone:


leave them alone. (people who refuse to apologise) - it’s a long wait otherwise

12:19:48 From metta flows to Host and Panelists:


What do you think of directly asking for apology from a living person, V?

12:19:51 From John Ruffin to Host and Panelists:


There is such an important element here that you have mentioned, V, regarding getting in touch with the pain and tar that has lived in the heart of the perpetrator and may well have been carried from the past “7 generations”… exposing that, hating it, killing it off, and finding the deeper compassion for the horror in their own lives…. You found that and it helped set you both free…

12:20:03 From jennifer carter to Everyone:


how to deal with people that won't accept apologies?

12:20:17 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:


Susan, I believe we have ALL been both men and women so I see we ALL have to apologize to each other and to ourselves.

12:20:32 From jude Asphar to Everyone:


Brilliant…all of you!

12:20:52 From AMY A BLUMENSHINE to Everyone:


V, you’ve been “ahead of your time” but able to change the time!

12:21:02 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:


I agree Kathryn...

12:21:18 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:


Thank you so much!

12:21:30 From Susan Maley to Everyone:


A personal belief in reincarnation is a choice that doesn't counter the reality of the physical and emotional experience of those in female bodies now

12:21:32 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Yep! My Son is definitely the new ideology of being a Human not Man!

12:21:36 From Lion Goodman to Everyone:


https://liongoodman.com/an-open-apology-to-women/

12:21:39 From kathryn davison to Host and Panelists:


An incredible, landscape-changing interaction, thank you so much.

12:21:40 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:


My ex-husband came to me finally and apologized for his horrific behavior during our thirty year marriage. The truth was that it felt so insignificant and insincere when he delivered it. Like someone had told him that was what he needed to do but it didn't feel heartfelt. I do wish that I had quizzed him more as to where this apology originated from. He died a few years ago. I can't go back to retrieve that time.

12:21:44 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:


Jennifer and Walter... please excuse my intrusion, but I believe your questions in the Q&A box deserve to be seen by a larger audience: jennifer carter 12:09 PM

please, define resilient...or allow Mother Nature to define resilience...it's bigger than response to abuse


Walter J Sheedlo 12:14 PM

The reality of women being raped is a reality - ok? Now what is it happening within the mind/heart of the raper (the one who rapes). And how do those hearts/minds deprived be restored and move through and beyond that neediness of human life.

12:22:00 From E F to Host and Panelists:


Is Jim Garrison associated with a particular organization? How might I contact him? Thank you

12:22:07 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:


Another profound discussion. V - what an amazing capacity to articulate the truth.

12:22:15 From Kala (Tat tvam Asi) to Everyone:


Awesome transformative dialogue🙏Thank you

12:22:18 From John Ruffin to Host and Panelists:


This work is revolutionary and so relevant for the climate crisis that has been perpetrated by patriarchy… and demands and APOLOGY..

12:22:20 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


V FOR PRESIDENT

12:22:23 From Inga Carey to Everyone:


PROFOUND! I want to follow you V!

12:22:23 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:


V, I want to hear more from you.

12:22:24 From metta flows to Host and Panelists:


Thank you so much for the opportunity to experience this conversation!!!!

12:22:25 From Musa Kalaora to Everyone:


Accepting that i am a human being who is going to mess up (no shame or blame), I choose to own it (the sooner the better) and then make amends, to make things better.

12:22:27 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:


Blessings all!

12:22:34 From kathryn davison to Everyone:


Please, encore!

12:22:42 From Clare Hedin to Everyone:


thank you for today 🙏

12:22:43 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:


Christine, V’s dad died before, and V brought him through. Your work may not be done…

12:22:48 From Larry Cashion to Everyone:


If I may...What a Joy filled Beauty!

12:22:49 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:


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With love...


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12:22:53 From Carole Morales to Everyone:


Link on apology doesn't work

12:22:54 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:


Yes, please encore

12:22:56 From Alecia Caine to Everyone:


Thank you!

12:22:57 From Inga Carey to Everyone:


beautiful men! thank you!

12:22:57 From Jen Forti to Everyone:


Thank you all <3

12:23:02 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:


Much gratitude V bringing joy!

12:23:04 From Myra L JACKSON JACKSON to Everyone:


Amazing. Thank you V - as an Black Woman - it was great to be with you and the Men here today….

12:23:06 From Dr Maura Conlon to Host and Panelists:


♥️





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