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= Humanity Rising Day 338 Chat Page {{NBS}} – {{NBS}} Wednesday October 13, 2021 =
= Humanity Rising Day 338 Chat Page {{NBS}} – {{NBS}} Wednesday October 13, 2021 =
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= Text of the Zoom Chat from Humanity Rising Day 338 =
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11:07:23 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
   Hello on this 338th episode of Humanity Rising where I get the privilege of being able to say what I believe is true: Women are the savior of the planet. Thank you!
11:08:03 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
   And men have been betrayed too …
11:08:45 From Joan Halgren to Everyone:
   From Joan Halgren in Minnesota, so glad to participate in this vital community session!
11:08:46 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:
   And women can be difficult and selfish too!
11:09:44 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
   Yes indeed we women can be difficult and selfish and seductive and much else too…we’re not off the hook!
11:10:38 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:
   One of the problems is that powerlessness leads people to become manipulative.
11:10:43 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Ha! Jim, you Guys are a Phenomenon 🙏
11:10:55 From Annabel Hollis to Everyone:
   Hi from Annabel in Stroud. UK. The best of women and men co-operating together is a most potent combo and is my hoped for vision of the future.
11:11:33 From Mary Thorp to Everyone:
   Heidi, it’s wonderful to hear you here! I’ve been part of HR since it’s inception, May 22, 2020.
11:11:52 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Blessings to All raising the Divine Feminine, no matter what gender🌺
11:13:21 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Lovely warm fire Celeste 🔥
11:14:15 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Right! Blessings to the Divine Masculine in All of us TOO!
11:14:20 From Anne Baring to Everyone:
   The trauma inflicted by patriarchy had affected both women and men for millennia. There is massive healing needed. It's beginning and it's growing with this kind of discussion.
11:15:21 From Richard Page to Everyone:
   Yes, Anne, ..archy is problematic.
11:17:17 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Touché Celeste, beautiful
11:17:56 From Richard Page to Everyone:
   Yes, Celeste, if we can look together without blaming…
11:19:53 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Yes, exactly, so true…multidimensional being ness is ALL genders
11:20:30 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Fear is turned to Courage at our Root Energy Center
11:20:55 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
   my ears, eyes and heart are open to listening
11:22:31 From Mary Thorp to Everyone:
   When I think about the chickens, rabbits, ground hogs, snakes on our property, I don’t experience the depth of separation we have as human beings.
   I’ve begun calling us humans or human beings & it opens the possibility of a different looking & living.
11:23:47 From Richard Page to Everyone:
   The Dark Mother holds us safely. All creation comes from and returns to Her…
11:27:29 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
   Esperide, SO glad to hear our real and deep history will be part of this conversation. Soul age is hidden but massively important.
11:27:40 From Richard Page to Everyone:
   Learning about Kohlberg’s research on morality…actually measuring male umbrage and sense of personal affront, as discovered by Carol Gilligan, who found that women’s ‘morality’ included the whole, the community…
11:29:23 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
   What about the example today in Washington based around the toxic ex president — the opposite of gentle men on top — their terror of the feminizing and browning of this country is so threatening to them they are threatening American democracy…real and scary….and Biden’s empathy sadly somehow backfiring…
11:30:08 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Nice Richard, the Nurturing Nature of Heart is Mother Nature.
11:30:36 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
   =========================   
               ..oOo..
   With love...   
   Some of us gentlepeople are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
   You can join the After Chat here:
   ::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::
   Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
   Passcode: 919541   
                ..oOo..   
   =========================
11:32:52 From Joan Halgren to Everyone:
   Jude, I totally agree with your view. I was blessed with a father, who raised me to be able to do anything--that is still a problem with many males still. It seems a DNA problem that relying upon physical strength is all; i.e. war, domination, abuse.
11:34:07 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Yes@Jude, the underbelly of Humanity, ‘Ol White Guy” is rearing it’s ugly head for the Masses to galvanize & fuel the change we want to see, perhaps.
11:35:26 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Beautiful Anneloes, the Universal “out breath”
11:36:17 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Courage: A ray from the Heart ❤️
11:36:42 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Right, we are Apples & Oranges
11:37:23 From Joan Halgren to Everyone:
   Anneloes is on  point: Men are trained not to feel comfortable with being held, etc. but to fight--sadly. But there's hope among the younger generations at least in Wester cultures but don't know about other spheres, like the Middle East.
11:37:39 From Richard Page to Everyone:
   After years of practicing Aikido with all front energy, expecting attack, with no ‘back’ energy, a young woman Aikidoke taught me how many ways I am held: all my relatives, my teachers, those who love me, the Mother…and I relaxed back into being Held, able to receive what is coming toward me from ‘safe at Home’
11:40:52 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
   Joan, My experience is that Middle Eastern men DO accept the feminine in themselves BUT there is confusion about what a man is. The warrior has taken over as their culture wrestles with the recognition of something is wrong with the changes happening and not knowing what it is and how to deal with it. I see much of that is the recognition that the Western way is wrong in many ways even as it is seductive.
11:41:13 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:
   What can we do about the worrying phenomenum of young boys watching porn and expecting girls to behave like the women they have seen.in porn films.
11:41:57 From Jane Norton to Everyone:
   @.eleste. Yes this younger generation has a much more open perspective om gender/
11:43:18 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
   FEAR = Face Everything And Rise
11:44:34 From Mary Thorp to Everyone:
   @Judy, porns been going on for however long; it will all balance out as human beings come into balance with nature. As long as we make porn wrong & focus on it, it expands. We could let it “be”.
11:44:48 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
   My experience with Trans folks is that when they have really embraced who they are they are the MOST amazing people! They are clear, unconfused and just wonderful and expansive to be around!
11:45:49 From Mary Thorp to Everyone:
   Yes, Heidi, birthing this emerging paradigm!!!
11:47:30 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
   The issue of human nature’s betrayal of Mother Nature …
11:49:14 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Yes, it’s about Cooperation not Competition
11:49:20 From Annabel Hollis to Everyone:
   I said to my soul, be still, and let the dark come upon you
   Which shall be the darkness of God. As, in a theatre,
   The lights are extinguished, for the scene to be changed
   With a hollow rumble of wings, with a movement of darkness on darkness,
   And we know that the hills and the trees, the di stant panorama                                          And the bold imposing facade are all being rolled away--
   Or as, when an underground train, in the tube, stops too long between stations
   And the conversation rises and slowly fades into silence
   And you see behind every face the mental emptiness deepen
   Leaving only the growing terror of nothing to think about;
   Or when, under ether, the mind is conscious but conscious of nothing--
   I said to my soul, be still, and wait without hope
11:49:32 From Annabel Hollis to Everyone:
   For hope would be hope for the wrong thing; wait without love,
   For love would be love of the wrong thing; there is yet faith
   But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the waiting.
   Wait without thought, for you are not ready for thought:
   So the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing. (TS Eliot)
11:50:15 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Absolutely Cooperating with ALL Life on the Planet, even the inanimate
11:52:41 From zu k to Everyone:
   @celeste this is so juicy: fire and boundaries!
11:53:51 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:
   As cooperation becomes an important feature of society, shall we see ourselves entering what I call "The Age of Helpfulness"?
11:53:54 From Richard Page to Everyone:
   Yes, Celeste, the ‘witch’ energy is activated. Robert Bly once mentioned that he had yet to meet an American male Sufi who had his ‘witch’ activated, and thus women had to carry that energy ‘double’
11:55:08 From jennifer carter to Everyone:
   Celeste ~ so True!  some of us need trauma healing because of the retaliation we've experienced for "Coming Out" as non-competative, Spiritual, Experiential & intellectual Guides.
11:55:34 From Michelle Blair to Everyone:
   Yes, this is the aspect needed for women who are conditioned with the institutionalized Judeo-Christian narratives. Whole includes light and dark. Virgin Mary and Kali.
11:55:47 From jennifer carter to Everyone:
   Thank you!
11:57:14 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:
   very insightful conversation
11:57:26 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Hell has no fury as a Woman’s scorn…needs update w/ Divine Kali accepted & integratable
11:58:11 From Joan Halgren to Everyone:
   The indigenous Americans had a better understanding of existence than us and better relationships between the male and female with women leading tribes. But Europeans, sadly, interfere and forced conflict!
11:59:03 From Stanley Pokras to Host and Panelists:
   Thank you, Rick.
11:59:33 From Annelies Weijschede to Everyone:
   Truly shine - as you all do!
11:59:39 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:
   Thank you for this powerful discussion. Blessings. Hopping off for work. Appreciate each of you
12:00:05 From Anne Baring to Everyone:
   Wisdom is the key word.
12:00:31 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   We ARE Dreaming our reality! Kudos!
12:00:37 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:
   My mother was a battered woman with nine children.  We were abused.  I was a battered wife.  I stayed for thirty years.  It's years later and now the deep sadness and the anger is present.  I left my husband twenty years ago, he has passed away two years ago.  I look to being more present and to see the beauty, but that's not where I am at this time.
12:00:37 From Elizabeth Edwards to Host and Panelists:
   Yes wisdom was with god at the beginning…. Wisdom is feminine
12:02:07 From Dawn Mazzone to Everyone:
   Can we love ourselves and others unconditionally? Can we be willing to be received unconditionally?
12:02:16 From Sarah Priestley to Host and Panelists:
   Yes Heidi.. me too
12:03:32 From Elizabeth Edwards to Host and Panelists:
   Darling Christine. Self love is key my lovely…..nourish urself and raise ur frequency….. then u will magnetise what matches u…. Oooh…. I have a song for that…. Something that might help…..I’ll dig it out…
12:03:48 From Sarah Priestley to Host and Panelists:
   There was a wonderful panel on gender and identity just last week on ‘the wisdom of trauma summit’ .. the talk is still available.
12:04:25 From Vicki Somoya to Host and Panelists:
   So sorry to hear that happened to you Christine
   Thank you for sharing, keep surrounding yourself with very supportive women and people You are strong enough to get through and past it all and you will find it happened to help you understand and have compassion
12:04:46 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Breaking Patterns…embodied forgiveness. Implementation of Bohm’s implicate order
12:05:06 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
   I think that collective connection is something I see indigenous people do much better.
12:05:15 From Ina Albert to Host and Panelists:
   Ina Albert - Thank you soooo much.
12:05:44 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
   If you intend your comments to appear for everyone beyond the hosts and panelists, please be sure to have the word "Everyone" in the control above the chat box.
12:06:44 From Richard Page to Everyone:
   Yes, moving from idea of self as competent male, separately able, to idea of self as responsible member within the really competent Living System, Gaia
12:06:54 From Elizabeth Edwards to Everyone:
   Life Baggage      
   I told my woes to my teacher regarding relationship anxiety
   I told my woes to my teacher and this is what he said to me   
   Just like on an airplane where you can only take one bag on board
   Keep as light as possible and deal with your emotions once and for all
   Just like on an airplane where you can only take one bag on board
   Keep as light as possible and deal with your emotions and   
   Dump the emotional baggage of your past
   Put it in a pile and burn it with a love blast
   Dump the emotional baggage of your past
   Put it in a pile and burn it up with a love blast burn it up   
   Its time to stop running from yourself - he told me.
   Let go of the heavy bags you hold
   Its time to realise just how much the creator loves you
   and how loving yourself is an act of love to the creator…
   So love love love feel it lighten your load
   Love love love - raw and unclothed
   Have faith in love -in love we are one
   Have faith in love -look to the sun and    
   Dump the emotional baggage of your past
   Put it in a pile and burn it with a
12:06:56 From Joan Halgren to Everyone:
   Please also acknowledge Q&jA content too!
12:08:07 From Elizabeth Edwards to Everyone:
   The song above is for Christine xxxx
12:10:23 From Richard Page to Everyone:
   George and Sedena, are you a couple teaching couples? How do we join, please?
12:10:46 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:
   Lucifer refused
12:10:56 From Elizabeth Edwards to Everyone:
   Yes!!!!! Honouring sacred!!!! So key!!!! Yes we need to re- member!!!
12:11:01 From Vicki Somoya to Host and Panelists:
   Christine ❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️
12:11:06 From Joan Halgren to Everyone:
   Honoring the sacred is key! I live near an American Indian tribe and we are learning from each other.
12:11:30 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:
   Elizabeth Edwards...I tried to copy and paste this but wasn't able to...are you the author?
12:12:13 From Elizabeth Edwards to Everyone:
   I agree … we require a new language that doesn’t keep us in bondage
12:12:40 From Vicki Somoya to Host and Panelists:
   Re-emagining a new understanding of what words like Sacred and God mean…
12:12:55 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
   The Chatpeople publish the chat each day. Post  your email here to receive it.
12:13:19 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Yes, a Universal Language of Human beingness.
12:13:36 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:
   I would like a copy of this chat.  cgweno@gmail.com
12:13:39 From Elizabeth Edwards to Everyone:
   Totally agree!!!
12:13:40 From Patty Blank to Host and Panelists:
   I am a numerologist. Every number has either a male energy or a female energy. Listening to these women speak I am guessing which have male and which have female energy. I have become more accepting of others due to this knowledge.
12:13:43 From Doon McKinney to Everyone:
   dolphindoon@gmail.com for the chat. THX
12:13:51 From Richard Page to Everyone:
   Sedena, we are Palomapavel77@gmail.com and Richard@newmed.com
12:14:04 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:
   And in Texas
12:14:17 From Elizabeth Edwards to Everyone:
   Me too… ladyelizabethedwards@gmail.com
12:14:39 From zu k to Everyone:
   me too… zulists@gmail.com
12:15:33 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
   You can join the After Chat here:
   ::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::
   Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
   Passcode: 919541   
                ..oOo..   
   =========================
12:15:54 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:
   Women also consume porn and actively participate at all levels of society
12:16:45 From Anne Baring to Everyone:
   The Green Man - the Spirit in Nature
12:16:56 From Patty Blank to Host and Panelists:
   Evolution is to become God like, neither male nor female but a good spirit.
12:17:01 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:
   The earth doesn’t care to be masculine or feminine... the earth is creating itself and let’s not forget we are earth as we came out of earth and not into it
12:17:19 From Lesley Southwick-Trask to Everyone:
   Patriarchy is deeply cultural. It lives in the unconscious behaviours that exist in every interaction. While we are talking about systemic equality- the larger pursuit is making visible these subtleties which continue to dominate our true access to equality.
12:17:21 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Beautiful Jim!
12:17:21 From Peg Kuperman to Everyone:
   a copy of the chat please!
   pjskoop99@hotmail.com
12:17:26 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
   ::https://en.unesco.org/news/unesco-presents-transforming-men-talities-report::
   Jun 23, 2021 — The study sets out a vision and actions to tackle the persistent gender-based inequalities that women and girls face throughout their lives.
12:17:53 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:
   I initiated conversations with a man who had been an abuser in his early and middle years.  When I asked him, why do men think they can abuse women, his answer was "Men believe that women are intrinsically inferior."
12:18:27 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:
   +1 espirada, we all sheep fearing the wolf division narratives and get eaten up by the farmer
12:18:45 From Sarah Priestley to Host and Panelists:
   Copy of chat please-sarahpriestley13@yahoo.com
12:18:56 From Anne Baring to Everyone:
   Men had their feelings crucified by having to be warriors.
12:19:32 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:
   Pan-gender
12:19:54 From Andres Jimenez to Host and Panelists:
   Sorry to disagree....in violent deaths, through known history, 90% of victims were young men
12:20:08 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:
   Pan-theism wholeness universality oneness
12:20:11 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Yes! @ Lesley the unconscious IS the driver…we do have the ability to reach those patterns through our Hearts Intelligence, for survival
12:20:47 From Ina Albert to Host and Panelists:
   Inaalbert@aol.com.  Love to receive chat recordings.
12:20:56 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   The Generative Masculine Principal is needed Too!
12:21:05 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:
   All these religious institutions are our wolfs
12:21:28 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:
   The same man that I had these conversations with over a period of three months also said that according to his spiritual teacher, "Woman can only love as mother.  Woman is the manifestation of the World Mother."  For a woman to be able to be empowered with this image of herself as World Mother, can be empowering for her.
12:21:28 From Anne Baring to Everyone:
   What Esperide has said is immensely important.
12:21:33 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:
   To the question who are the forbidden fruit first?
12:21:46 From Richard Page to Everyone:
   Gives new meaning to “Panentheism”
12:21:58 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:
   Whatever the response, the question is the problem
12:22:43 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Wow, Pan’s intentionality is needing nurturing…Findhorn! Nature Spirits
12:22:48 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:
   Got to get back to my cooking pan
12:23:41 From Richard Page to Everyone:
   Jim, Was that Dorothy Hunt who ‘worked’ with the devas at Findhorn?
12:23:51 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Such important perspective & evolutionary analysis, Jim!
12:24:11 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Very Cool!
12:24:18 From Kate Hansen Hansen to Everyone:
   What was the book and author that Jim just mentioned? Thank you.
12:24:40 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
   Talking with Fairies
12:24:41 From Annelies Weijschede to Everyone:
   Dorothy Maclean
12:24:43 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:
   Thank you to all panelist for such generosity, compassion and understanding 🌸🙏🌸
12:24:47 From Kate Hansen Hansen to Everyone:
   Thank you!
12:24:59 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:
   We will overcome and over stand
12:25:50 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   And, Native Americans perspective
12:25:53 From Richard Page to Everyone:
   Yes, Dorothy Maclean…saw prayer intentions as angels and watched them travel out…
12:26:03 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:
   Good point to not get caught up in the post Greek/Roman world of grnderification
12:26:05 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:
   When are the masculine dialogues
12:26:14 From Joan Halgren to Everyone:
   Celeste is right on about needing a wider lens from different cultures!
12:26:22 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:
   Genderification (did I just invent it?)
12:26:24 From Anne Baring to Everyone:
   Thank you Jim and thank you all for a fascinating and most valuable discussion. We need a wider lens to include all of humanity as Celeste has said.
12:26:32 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
   The Old Woman's Daughter: Transformative Wisdom for Men and Women (Carolyn and Ernest Fay Series in Analytical Psychology) TAMU Press Claire Douglas 2006. PDF available at ::https://book4you.org/::
12:26:34 From Angela Atwell to Host and Panelists:
   It was R Ogilvie Crombie who wrote about Pan. Also Dorothy McLean’s books, such as Seeds of Inspiration, record conversations with devas.
12:26:35 From Dottie Koontz to Everyone:
   Thank you for bringing in other cultural understandings Celeste.
12:28:05 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
   Men and Masculinities Around the World: Transforming Men's Practices
   Palgrave Macmillan. Keith Pringle, Jeff Hearn, Elisabetta Ruspini, Bob Pease 2011 PDF available at ::https://book4you.org/::
12:28:09 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:
   I do think that ritual or ceremony are so important.
12:29:01 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
   The  humbling lessons of the PANdemic?
12:29:09 From Candy Leonard to Everyone:
   Pan sows up in modern culture as a boy who doesn’t want to/can’t grow up
12:29:16 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:
   11/11 @ 11am      
   Just the other day, the Hummingbird said, “on November 11, we get to pray or meditate at least 60 seconds to 60 minutes or more at 11 am, everywhere in the world.”   
   Will you do this also? and share the idea?   
   You may wish to practice the PeaceMaker Meditation, here's a 15 minute video on the easy, psychosomatic, spiritual practice: ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo:: Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace. will reverberate throughout your day… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and ‘others.’
12:30:33 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
   weHAVE to do this together!
12:30:42 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
   On the Threshold of Transformation: Daily Meditations for Men. Loyola Press. Richard Rohr 2010 EPUB available at ::https://book4you.org/::
12:32:13 From Gloria von Ganski to Host and Panelists:
   When man bring forth their nobel side and  express it with presence and strength and treat her as ”a jewel” then a beautiful dance between the sexes occurred and  that in. turn brings forth the strength of mens masculinity and the beauty and softness and strength in te femininity
12:32:35 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:
   +1 Kathryn
12:32:51 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
   Thank you Leo!!!!
12:32:59 From Saira Gazal to Host and Panelists:
   thank you everyone
12:33:07 From Saira Gazal to Host and Panelists:
   love from Pakistan
12:33:33 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
   ::https://www.alignplatform.org::  Advancing Learning and Innovation on Gender Norms
12:34:28 From Richard Page to Everyone:
   Yes, George, no Contra..versy
12:34:58 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:
   George, so your general feeling was "peaceful"
12:35:34 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
   Honour Among Men and Nations: Transformations of an Idea
   University of Toronto Press. Geoffrey Best 1982 PDF available at ::https://book4you.org/::
12:36:09 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Thank you ALL for such an important conversation, filled w/ humor, vulnerability & great insight into the Human Experience! Blessings to More!
12:36:58 From shannon CrossBear to Everyone:
   As a Ojibwe woman our teachings and even the language embedded within speak of gender.
12:36:58 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:
   Ha ha! Bisexual Superman! precious beautiful 🤩
12:37:01 From Elizabeth Edwards to Everyone:
   We are all exiting from this matrix… and make mistakes… supporting each other through this is important not lashing each other xxxx.
12:37:02 From Michelle Blair to Host and Panelists:
   Spirit-ritual. Ways to connect with the sacred.
12:37:22 From Richard Page to Everyone:
   Jim, “Men deserving lashing” may not get us Home…
12:37:24 From jude Asphar to Everyone:
   Thank you Leo and Stanley and Richard and Kurt…as well of course as Jim, and George….
12:38:17 From Michelle Massi to Everyone:
   Thank your for such generosity towards each other, so wonderful to acknowledge this… truly heart felt
12:38:40 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:
   Thanks for engaging these very critical conversations.
12:38:56 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:
   You can join the After Chat here:
   ::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::
   Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451
   Passcode: 919541   
                ..oOo..
12:39:24 From Richard Page to Everyone:
   Honored to be in the company of every being I see on this screen
12:39:28 From Michelle Blair to Everyone:
   Blessings and thankfulness to you all.
12:40:01 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
   Thank you all so much for this deep conversation on this important topic.
12:40:05 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:
   I agree, George.
12:40:35 From Elizabeth Edwards to Everyone:
   Thanks everyone xx


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11:07:23 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:

   Hello on this 338th episode of Humanity Rising where I get the privilege of being able to say what I believe is true: Women are the savior of the planet. Thank you!

11:08:03 From jude Asphar to Everyone:

   And men have been betrayed too …

11:08:45 From Joan Halgren to Everyone:

   From Joan Halgren in Minnesota, so glad to participate in this vital community session!

11:08:46 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:

   And women can be difficult and selfish too!

11:09:44 From jude Asphar to Everyone:

   Yes indeed we women can be difficult and selfish and seductive and much else too…we’re not off the hook!

11:10:38 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:

   One of the problems is that powerlessness leads people to become manipulative.

11:10:43 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Ha! Jim, you Guys are a Phenomenon 🙏

11:10:55 From Annabel Hollis to Everyone:

   Hi from Annabel in Stroud. UK. The best of women and men co-operating together is a most potent combo and is my hoped for vision of the future.

11:11:33 From Mary Thorp to Everyone:

   Heidi, it’s wonderful to hear you here! I’ve been part of HR since it’s inception, May 22, 2020.

11:11:52 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Blessings to All raising the Divine Feminine, no matter what gender🌺

11:13:21 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Lovely warm fire Celeste 🔥

11:14:15 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Right! Blessings to the Divine Masculine in All of us TOO!

11:14:20 From Anne Baring to Everyone:

   The trauma inflicted by patriarchy had affected both women and men for millennia. There is massive healing needed. It's beginning and it's growing with this kind of discussion.

11:15:21 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   Yes, Anne, ..archy is problematic.

11:17:17 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Touché Celeste, beautiful

11:17:56 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   Yes, Celeste, if we can look together without blaming…

11:19:53 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Yes, exactly, so true…multidimensional being ness is ALL genders

11:20:30 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Fear is turned to Courage at our Root Energy Center

11:20:55 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:

   my ears, eyes and heart are open to listening

11:22:31 From Mary Thorp to Everyone:

   When I think about the chickens, rabbits, ground hogs, snakes on our property, I don’t experience the depth of separation we have as human beings.

   I’ve begun calling us humans or human beings & it opens the possibility of a different looking & living.

11:23:47 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   The Dark Mother holds us safely. All creation comes from and returns to Her…

11:27:29 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   Esperide, SO glad to hear our real and deep history will be part of this conversation. Soul age is hidden but massively important.

11:27:40 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   Learning about Kohlberg’s research on morality…actually measuring male umbrage and sense of personal affront, as discovered by Carol Gilligan, who found that women’s ‘morality’ included the whole, the community…

11:29:23 From jude Asphar to Everyone:

   What about the example today in Washington based around the toxic ex president — the opposite of gentle men on top — their terror of the feminizing and browning of this country is so threatening to them they are threatening American democracy…real and scary….and Biden’s empathy sadly somehow backfiring…

11:30:08 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Nice Richard, the Nurturing Nature of Heart is Mother Nature.

11:30:36 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:

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   With love...   

   Some of us gentlepeople are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

   You can join the After Chat here:

   ::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::

   Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451

   Passcode: 919541   

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11:32:52 From Joan Halgren to Everyone:

   Jude, I totally agree with your view. I was blessed with a father, who raised me to be able to do anything--that is still a problem with many males still. It seems a DNA problem that relying upon physical strength is all; i.e. war, domination, abuse.

11:34:07 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Yes@Jude, the underbelly of Humanity, ‘Ol White Guy” is rearing it’s ugly head for the Masses to galvanize & fuel the change we want to see, perhaps.

11:35:26 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Beautiful Anneloes, the Universal “out breath”

11:36:17 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Courage: A ray from the Heart ❤️

11:36:42 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Right, we are Apples & Oranges

11:37:23 From Joan Halgren to Everyone:

   Anneloes is on  point: Men are trained not to feel comfortable with being held, etc. but to fight--sadly. But there's hope among the younger generations at least in Wester cultures but don't know about other spheres, like the Middle East.

11:37:39 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   After years of practicing Aikido with all front energy, expecting attack, with no ‘back’ energy, a young woman Aikidoke taught me how many ways I am held: all my relatives, my teachers, those who love me, the Mother…and I relaxed back into being Held, able to receive what is coming toward me from ‘safe at Home’

11:40:52 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   Joan, My experience is that Middle Eastern men DO accept the feminine in themselves BUT there is confusion about what a man is. The warrior has taken over as their culture wrestles with the recognition of something is wrong with the changes happening and not knowing what it is and how to deal with it. I see much of that is the recognition that the Western way is wrong in many ways even as it is seductive.

11:41:13 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:

   What can we do about the worrying phenomenum of young boys watching porn and expecting girls to behave like the women they have seen.in porn films.

11:41:57 From Jane Norton to Everyone:

   @.eleste. Yes this younger generation has a much more open perspective om gender/

11:43:18 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   FEAR = Face Everything And Rise

11:44:34 From Mary Thorp to Everyone:

   @Judy, porns been going on for however long; it will all balance out as human beings come into balance with nature. As long as we make porn wrong & focus on it, it expands. We could let it “be”.

11:44:48 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   My experience with Trans folks is that when they have really embraced who they are they are the MOST amazing people! They are clear, unconfused and just wonderful and expansive to be around!

11:45:49 From Mary Thorp to Everyone:

   Yes, Heidi, birthing this emerging paradigm!!!

11:47:30 From jude Asphar to Everyone:

   The issue of human nature’s betrayal of Mother Nature …

11:49:14 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Yes, it’s about Cooperation not Competition

11:49:20 From Annabel Hollis to Everyone:

   I said to my soul, be still, and let the dark come upon you

   Which shall be the darkness of God. As, in a theatre,

   The lights are extinguished, for the scene to be changed

   With a hollow rumble of wings, with a movement of darkness on darkness,

   And we know that the hills and the trees, the di stant panorama                                          And the bold imposing facade are all being rolled away--

   Or as, when an underground train, in the tube, stops too long between stations

   And the conversation rises and slowly fades into silence

   And you see behind every face the mental emptiness deepen

   Leaving only the growing terror of nothing to think about;

   Or when, under ether, the mind is conscious but conscious of nothing--

   I said to my soul, be still, and wait without hope

11:49:32 From Annabel Hollis to Everyone:

   For hope would be hope for the wrong thing; wait without love,

   For love would be love of the wrong thing; there is yet faith

   But the faith and the love and the hope are all in the waiting.

   Wait without thought, for you are not ready for thought:

   So the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing. (TS Eliot)

11:50:15 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Absolutely Cooperating with ALL Life on the Planet, even the inanimate

11:52:41 From zu k to Everyone:

   @celeste this is so juicy: fire and boundaries!

11:53:51 From Stanley Pokras Pokras to Everyone:

   As cooperation becomes an important feature of society, shall we see ourselves entering what I call "The Age of Helpfulness"?

11:53:54 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   Yes, Celeste, the ‘witch’ energy is activated. Robert Bly once mentioned that he had yet to meet an American male Sufi who had his ‘witch’ activated, and thus women had to carry that energy ‘double’

11:55:08 From jennifer carter to Everyone:

   Celeste ~ so True!  some of us need trauma healing because of the retaliation we've experienced for "Coming Out" as non-competative, Spiritual, Experiential & intellectual Guides.

11:55:34 From Michelle Blair to Everyone:

   Yes, this is the aspect needed for women who are conditioned with the institutionalized Judeo-Christian narratives. Whole includes light and dark. Virgin Mary and Kali.

11:55:47 From jennifer carter to Everyone:

   Thank you!

11:57:14 From Dan Balcaban to Everyone:

   very insightful conversation

11:57:26 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Hell has no fury as a Woman’s scorn…needs update w/ Divine Kali accepted & integratable

11:58:11 From Joan Halgren to Everyone:

   The indigenous Americans had a better understanding of existence than us and better relationships between the male and female with women leading tribes. But Europeans, sadly, interfere and forced conflict!

11:59:03 From Stanley Pokras to Host and Panelists:

   Thank you, Rick.

11:59:33 From Annelies Weijschede to Everyone:

   Truly shine - as you all do!

11:59:39 From KATHERINE AUGUSTINE to Everyone:

   Thank you for this powerful discussion. Blessings. Hopping off for work. Appreciate each of you

12:00:05 From Anne Baring to Everyone:

   Wisdom is the key word.

12:00:31 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   We ARE Dreaming our reality! Kudos!

12:00:37 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:

   My mother was a battered woman with nine children.  We were abused.  I was a battered wife.  I stayed for thirty years.  It's years later and now the deep sadness and the anger is present.  I left my husband twenty years ago, he has passed away two years ago.  I look to being more present and to see the beauty, but that's not where I am at this time.

12:00:37 From Elizabeth Edwards to Host and Panelists:

   Yes wisdom was with god at the beginning…. Wisdom is feminine

12:02:07 From Dawn Mazzone to Everyone:

   Can we love ourselves and others unconditionally? Can we be willing to be received unconditionally?

12:02:16 From Sarah Priestley to Host and Panelists:

   Yes Heidi.. me too

12:03:32 From Elizabeth Edwards to Host and Panelists:

   Darling Christine. Self love is key my lovely…..nourish urself and raise ur frequency….. then u will magnetise what matches u…. Oooh…. I have a song for that…. Something that might help…..I’ll dig it out…

12:03:48 From Sarah Priestley to Host and Panelists:

   There was a wonderful panel on gender and identity just last week on ‘the wisdom of trauma summit’ .. the talk is still available.

12:04:25 From Vicki Somoya to Host and Panelists:

   So sorry to hear that happened to you Christine

   Thank you for sharing, keep surrounding yourself with very supportive women and people You are strong enough to get through and past it all and you will find it happened to help you understand and have compassion

12:04:46 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Breaking Patterns…embodied forgiveness. Implementation of Bohm’s implicate order

12:05:06 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   I think that collective connection is something I see indigenous people do much better.

12:05:15 From Ina Albert to Host and Panelists:

   Ina Albert - Thank you soooo much.

12:05:44 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:

   If you intend your comments to appear for everyone beyond the hosts and panelists, please be sure to have the word "Everyone" in the control above the chat box.

12:06:44 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   Yes, moving from idea of self as competent male, separately able, to idea of self as responsible member within the really competent Living System, Gaia

12:06:54 From Elizabeth Edwards to Everyone:

   Life Baggage      

   I told my woes to my teacher regarding relationship anxiety

   I told my woes to my teacher and this is what he said to me   

   Just like on an airplane where you can only take one bag on board

   Keep as light as possible and deal with your emotions once and for all

   Just like on an airplane where you can only take one bag on board

   Keep as light as possible and deal with your emotions and   

   Dump the emotional baggage of your past

   Put it in a pile and burn it with a love blast

   Dump the emotional baggage of your past

   Put it in a pile and burn it up with a love blast burn it up   

   Its time to stop running from yourself - he told me.

   Let go of the heavy bags you hold

   Its time to realise just how much the creator loves you

   and how loving yourself is an act of love to the creator…

   So love love love feel it lighten your load

   Love love love - raw and unclothed

   Have faith in love -in love we are one

   Have faith in love -look to the sun and    

   Dump the emotional baggage of your past

   Put it in a pile and burn it with a

12:06:56 From Joan Halgren to Everyone:

   Please also acknowledge Q&jA content too!

12:08:07 From Elizabeth Edwards to Everyone:

   The song above is for Christine xxxx

12:10:23 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   George and Sedena, are you a couple teaching couples? How do we join, please?

12:10:46 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:

   Lucifer refused

12:10:56 From Elizabeth Edwards to Everyone:

   Yes!!!!! Honouring sacred!!!! So key!!!! Yes we need to re- member!!!

12:11:01 From Vicki Somoya to Host and Panelists:

   Christine ❤️🙏❤️🙏❤️

12:11:06 From Joan Halgren to Everyone:

   Honoring the sacred is key! I live near an American Indian tribe and we are learning from each other.

12:11:30 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:

   Elizabeth Edwards...I tried to copy and paste this but wasn't able to...are you the author?

12:12:13 From Elizabeth Edwards to Everyone:

   I agree … we require a new language that doesn’t keep us in bondage

12:12:40 From Vicki Somoya to Host and Panelists:

   Re-emagining a new understanding of what words like Sacred and God mean…

12:12:55 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:

   The Chatpeople publish the chat each day. Post  your email here to receive it.

12:13:19 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Yes, a Universal Language of Human beingness.

12:13:36 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:

   I would like a copy of this chat.  cgweno@gmail.com

12:13:39 From Elizabeth Edwards to Everyone:

   Totally agree!!!

12:13:40 From Patty Blank to Host and Panelists:

   I am a numerologist. Every number has either a male energy or a female energy. Listening to these women speak I am guessing which have male and which have female energy. I have become more accepting of others due to this knowledge.

12:13:43 From Doon McKinney to Everyone:

   dolphindoon@gmail.com for the chat. THX

12:13:51 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   Sedena, we are Palomapavel77@gmail.com and Richard@newmed.com

12:14:04 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:

   And in Texas

12:14:17 From Elizabeth Edwards to Everyone:

   Me too… ladyelizabethedwards@gmail.com

12:14:39 From zu k to Everyone:

   me too… zulists@gmail.com

12:15:33 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:

   You can join the After Chat here:

   ::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::

   Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451

   Passcode: 919541   

                ..oOo..   

   =========================

12:15:54 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:

   Women also consume porn and actively participate at all levels of society

12:16:45 From Anne Baring to Everyone:

   The Green Man - the Spirit in Nature

12:16:56 From Patty Blank to Host and Panelists:

   Evolution is to become God like, neither male nor female but a good spirit.

12:17:01 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:

   The earth doesn’t care to be masculine or feminine... the earth is creating itself and let’s not forget we are earth as we came out of earth and not into it

12:17:19 From Lesley Southwick-Trask to Everyone:

   Patriarchy is deeply cultural. It lives in the unconscious behaviours that exist in every interaction. While we are talking about systemic equality- the larger pursuit is making visible these subtleties which continue to dominate our true access to equality.

12:17:21 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Beautiful Jim!

12:17:21 From Peg Kuperman to Everyone:

   a copy of the chat please!

   pjskoop99@hotmail.com

12:17:26 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   ::https://en.unesco.org/news/unesco-presents-transforming-men-talities-report::

   Jun 23, 2021 — The study sets out a vision and actions to tackle the persistent gender-based inequalities that women and girls face throughout their lives.

12:17:53 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:

   I initiated conversations with a man who had been an abuser in his early and middle years.  When I asked him, why do men think they can abuse women, his answer was "Men believe that women are intrinsically inferior."

12:18:27 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:

   +1 espirada, we all sheep fearing the wolf division narratives and get eaten up by the farmer

12:18:45 From Sarah Priestley to Host and Panelists:

   Copy of chat please-sarahpriestley13@yahoo.com

12:18:56 From Anne Baring to Everyone:

   Men had their feelings crucified by having to be warriors.

12:19:32 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:

   Pan-gender

12:19:54 From Andres Jimenez to Host and Panelists:

   Sorry to disagree....in violent deaths, through known history, 90% of victims were young men

12:20:08 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:

   Pan-theism wholeness universality oneness

12:20:11 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Yes! @ Lesley the unconscious IS the driver…we do have the ability to reach those patterns through our Hearts Intelligence, for survival

12:20:47 From Ina Albert to Host and Panelists:

   Inaalbert@aol.com.  Love to receive chat recordings.

12:20:56 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   The Generative Masculine Principal is needed Too!

12:21:05 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:

   All these religious institutions are our wolfs

12:21:28 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:

   The same man that I had these conversations with over a period of three months also said that according to his spiritual teacher, "Woman can only love as mother.  Woman is the manifestation of the World Mother."  For a woman to be able to be empowered with this image of herself as World Mother, can be empowering for her.

12:21:28 From Anne Baring to Everyone:

   What Esperide has said is immensely important.

12:21:33 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:

   To the question who are the forbidden fruit first?

12:21:46 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   Gives new meaning to “Panentheism”

12:21:58 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:

   Whatever the response, the question is the problem

12:22:43 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Wow, Pan’s intentionality is needing nurturing…Findhorn! Nature Spirits

12:22:48 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:

   Got to get back to my cooking pan

12:23:41 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   Jim, Was that Dorothy Hunt who ‘worked’ with the devas at Findhorn?

12:23:51 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Such important perspective & evolutionary analysis, Jim!

12:24:11 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Very Cool!

12:24:18 From Kate Hansen Hansen to Everyone:

   What was the book and author that Jim just mentioned? Thank you.

12:24:40 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   Talking with Fairies

12:24:41 From Annelies Weijschede to Everyone:

   Dorothy Maclean

12:24:43 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:

   Thank you to all panelist for such generosity, compassion and understanding 🌸🙏🌸

12:24:47 From Kate Hansen Hansen to Everyone:

   Thank you!

12:24:59 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:

   We will overcome and over stand

12:25:50 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   And, Native Americans perspective

12:25:53 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   Yes, Dorothy Maclean…saw prayer intentions as angels and watched them travel out…

12:26:03 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:

   Good point to not get caught up in the post Greek/Roman world of grnderification

12:26:05 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:

   When are the masculine dialogues

12:26:14 From Joan Halgren to Everyone:

   Celeste is right on about needing a wider lens from different cultures!

12:26:22 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:

   Genderification (did I just invent it?)

12:26:24 From Anne Baring to Everyone:

   Thank you Jim and thank you all for a fascinating and most valuable discussion. We need a wider lens to include all of humanity as Celeste has said.

12:26:32 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   The Old Woman's Daughter: Transformative Wisdom for Men and Women (Carolyn and Ernest Fay Series in Analytical Psychology) TAMU Press Claire Douglas 2006. PDF available at ::https://book4you.org/::

12:26:34 From Angela Atwell to Host and Panelists:

   It was R Ogilvie Crombie who wrote about Pan. Also Dorothy McLean’s books, such as Seeds of Inspiration, record conversations with devas.

12:26:35 From Dottie Koontz to Everyone:

   Thank you for bringing in other cultural understandings Celeste.

12:28:05 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   Men and Masculinities Around the World: Transforming Men's Practices

   Palgrave Macmillan. Keith Pringle, Jeff Hearn, Elisabetta Ruspini, Bob Pease 2011 PDF available at ::https://book4you.org/::

12:28:09 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:

   I do think that ritual or ceremony are so important.

12:29:01 From jude Asphar to Everyone:

   The  humbling lessons of the PANdemic?

12:29:09 From Candy Leonard to Everyone:

   Pan sows up in modern culture as a boy who doesn’t want to/can’t grow up

12:29:16 From Kurt Krueger, SuccessSystemsInternational.net to Everyone:

   11/11 @ 11am      

   Just the other day, the Hummingbird said, “on November 11, we get to pray or meditate at least 60 seconds to 60 minutes or more at 11 am, everywhere in the world.”   

   Will you do this also? and share the idea?   

   You may wish to practice the PeaceMaker Meditation, here's a 15 minute video on the easy, psychosomatic, spiritual practice: ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo:: Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace. will reverberate throughout your day… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and ‘others.’

12:30:33 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   weHAVE to do this together!

12:30:42 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   On the Threshold of Transformation: Daily Meditations for Men. Loyola Press. Richard Rohr 2010 EPUB available at ::https://book4you.org/::

12:32:13 From Gloria von Ganski to Host and Panelists:

   When man bring forth their nobel side and  express it with presence and strength and treat her as ”a jewel” then a beautiful dance between the sexes occurred and  that in. turn brings forth the strength of mens masculinity and the beauty and softness and strength in te femininity

12:32:35 From rajinder to Host and Panelists:

   +1 Kathryn

12:32:51 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   Thank you Leo!!!!

12:32:59 From Saira Gazal to Host and Panelists:

   thank you everyone

12:33:07 From Saira Gazal to Host and Panelists:

   love from Pakistan

12:33:33 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   ::https://www.alignplatform.org::  Advancing Learning and Innovation on Gender Norms

12:34:28 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   Yes, George, no Contra..versy

12:34:58 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:

   George, so your general feeling was "peaceful"

12:35:34 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   Honour Among Men and Nations: Transformations of an Idea

   University of Toronto Press. Geoffrey Best 1982 PDF available at ::https://book4you.org/::

12:36:09 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Thank you ALL for such an important conversation, filled w/ humor, vulnerability & great insight into the Human Experience! Blessings to More!

12:36:58 From shannon CrossBear to Everyone:

   As a Ojibwe woman our teachings and even the language embedded within speak of gender.

12:36:58 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Ha ha! Bisexual Superman! precious beautiful 🤩

12:37:01 From Elizabeth Edwards to Everyone:

   We are all exiting from this matrix… and make mistakes… supporting each other through this is important not lashing each other xxxx.

12:37:02 From Michelle Blair to Host and Panelists:

   Spirit-ritual. Ways to connect with the sacred.

12:37:22 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   Jim, “Men deserving lashing” may not get us Home…

12:37:24 From jude Asphar to Everyone:

   Thank you Leo and Stanley and Richard and Kurt…as well of course as Jim, and George….

12:38:17 From Michelle Massi to Everyone:

   Thank your for such generosity towards each other, so wonderful to acknowledge this… truly heart felt

12:38:40 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:

   Thanks for engaging these very critical conversations.

12:38:56 From Stanley Pokras to Everyone:

   You can join the After Chat here:

   ::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::

   Meeting ID: 810 4561 3451

   Passcode: 919541   

                ..oOo..

12:39:24 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   Honored to be in the company of every being I see on this screen

12:39:28 From Michelle Blair to Everyone:

   Blessings and thankfulness to you all.

12:40:01 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:

   Thank you all so much for this deep conversation on this important topic.

12:40:05 From Christine O'Brien to Everyone:

   I agree, George.

12:40:35 From Elizabeth Edwards to Everyone:

   Thanks everyone xx

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