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Humanity Rising Day 969 After Chat – Tuesday July 23, 2024
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00:08:50 Marie Murtagh: You don’t happen to know the name of one, Kurt?
00:09:14 Marie Murtagh: I think I might have an idea. Thank you.
00:09:51 Marie Murtagh: Time, sometimes, is a Line….
00:10:52 Marie Murtagh: Great point, Cindy… as you change, you see things differently...
00:11:19 Judy H: Does the turquoise stage envision an afterlife or will we just be absorbed into the whole?
00:12:03 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: What is your life Quest?
I have all my attention focused on our family and creating Peace IN Everything, Everything AS Peace. We do it through four primary organizations that Kurt developed over 40 years. Success Systems International - for business/industry, education, society, The Peace Lab, for research and development and producing podcasts, Rotary eClub of Peace Educators (ReCoPE), and The Peace Matrix to create a Network of Networks the bring Peace into every area of life. You may imagine how busy this boy is with the challenges we get to face each day. If any of this interests you, please feel free to call and we can dialogue, collaborate, and maybe coagulate as a grander force for the Good of all. To collaborate: Kurt Krueger, NE Los Angeles CA area, PeaceMakersCircles@gmail, 1-818-399-0771
00:12:07 Cindy Wigglesworth: My opinion, Judy, is that the “before life” “during life” and “after life” lose some of their harsh boundaries. It is just LIFE…flowing and perfect
00:15:49 Michael Spayd: Frederic Laloux documented Yellow (Teal) companies in Reinventing Organizations.
00:18:20 Franka Strietzel: Reinventing Organizations. YouTube Channel of Frederic Laloux
https://youtube.com/@reinventingorganizations2595?si=LCn8sz3ow2JNry9F
00:18:25 Tracey’s iPhone: I love that too Cindy 🥀
00:18:59 Michael Spayd: Replying to "Reinventing Organiza..."
Thanks!
00:19:04 Rick Botelho: Make discerning judgments are not the same as being judgmental.
00:19:50 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: If you’re in Los Angeles area in Mid September: meet JANE GOODALL and party!
00:21:21 Cindy Wigglesworth: Systems thinking is part of Yellow. Seeing complex interconnections. Look at videos with Daniel Schmachtenberge (spelling?) to listen to this kind of view. And Yellow is not perfect. No one can see ALL of everything. So we must work together
00:21:24 Marie Murtagh: interesting insight, Nish. Thank you.
00:21:47 Marie Murtagh: Schmachtenburger
00:22:11 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Kurt Krueger:
A new way to massively and EASILY fund a better world. Check it out.
https://brand.earth/executive-summary/
00:22:37 Marie Murtagh: Daniel Schmachtenberger
00:23:07 Ben Levi: Key humility to all models… ALL models are WRONG… some are more useful than others. SD (& Diamond) are some of the more useful ones… but YOU get to decide what’s most useful for your development.
00:23:21 Marie Murtagh: Loads of videos on Youtube. They’re likely all good. (They always have been for me)
00:23:28 Shannon McArthur: Daniel Schmachtenberger’s site: https://civilizationemerging.com/about/
00:23:42 Cindy Wigglesworth: Replying to "Key humility to all ..."
Yes...constantly upgrading our maps is important. Humility is important. Shadow clean up is important. Etc.
00:23:58 Michael Spayd: A great discussion with another systems thinker, Nate Hagen. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmusbHBKW84&t=26s
00:24:07 Franka Strietzel: Daniel Schmachtenberger. Developing a deeper Understanding of Life.
https://youtu.be/iAcB0yBtXLM?si=56XnmUlzbyTwv6nD
00:24:10 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Harry Uvegi is a genius and was on HR: Dancing with Biomimicry: Embodying Nature as Our Guide, Harry Uvegi, https://youtu.be/7jAfWyCpXPM
00:24:56 Michael Spayd: Replying to "A great discussion w..."
with Schmachtenberger.
00:25:12 Cindy Wigglesworth: Replying to "A great discussion w..."
Fabulous stuff. Nate’s video on “Reality” is great
00:25:24 Neeyaz & Saeed: Daniel Schmachtenberger: "A Vision for Betterment" | The Great Simplification 126: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tmusbHBKW84
00:27:01 Tracey’s iPhone: Yes yes inspirational model 🦋👍♥️
00:29:55 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: ULF SANDSTROM was here in Los Angeles and shared a powerful practice of CLEAN COMMUNICATION, https://peacefulheartnetwork.evolveauthoring.com/courses/66823e1cf57c3d269a534136/shared/index.html#/page/66823e1df57c3d269a53413f I’m going dive into it .
00:30:07 Ben Levi: Transcending and including means bringing with us the previous values and expressions to build on in order to better cope with our increasingly complex and, in our current environment, DOWNSHIFTING Life Conditions… itself a transcendent perspective.
00:30:38 Judy H: I missed yesterday and am not familiar with spiral dynamics but before this call I was working on a purple and turquoise mandala and wonder if this is one way of integrating the different stages.
00:31:06 Marie Murtagh: Replying to "I missed yesterday a..."
Sounds interesting, Judy…the model and the inquiry!
00:31:54 Cindy Wigglesworth: Allowance for emergence, and do my part by rowing the boat where I know it’s my time to put my oar into the water and do work in the dualistic realm
00:33:07 Shannon McArthur: Primordial instead of primative…
00:35:42 Marie Murtagh: https://www.amazon.com/Hidden-Connections-Science-Sustainable-Living/dp/0385494726
00:36:23 Marie Murtagh: Nish could probably speak to this bit about the chakras, etc.
00:37:19 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: If you or someone you know gets COVID or another virus, you my like to try the homeopathic remedy Thymulin 9C - once a week to prevent, if ya get it, 4 times a day. it stimulates the hormones of the thymus. Its cleared people of it within 3 days :)
http://homeopathicfamilymedicine.com
Homeopathy and JD Rockefeller
Dana Ullman, M.P.H. is one of the foremost spokespersons for homeopathic medicine in the United States. He has authored several books, including Discovering Homeopathy: Medicine for the 21st Century (North Atlantic, 1991), which includes a foreword by Dr. Ronald W. Davey, Physician to Her Majesty Queen Elizabeth II.
https://www.youtube.com/live/-JFi8k4JFdQ?feature=share
This is an afterchat that Dana speaks about the remedy for Covid.
https://communitymagic.org/public/HR_ChatPeople/2023-05-10%20Chatpeople%20HR%20Day%20694%20Gallery.mp4
“With nature’s help, humankind can set into creation all that is necessary and life-sustaining.” ~ Hildegard of Bingen
00:37:57 Tracey’s iPhone: Yes Jiyan… hearing each others vibration as we speak is …… 🙌 🧬 🗣️
Both/And ✅ ☮️
00:37:59 Marie Murtagh: Here we go!!
00:39:44 Marie Murtagh: Love this question!!!
00:39:58 Marie Murtagh: Squaring the Circle is something I have been exploring lately.
00:40:20 Shannon McArthur: Jiyun, I’m glad you’re healing. Sorry you’re hurting. Be better in each moment…
00:40:32 Marie Murtagh: LMAO Jiyun
00:40:53 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "LMAO Jiyun"
Indeed!
00:41:44 Marie Murtagh: Gotta grab a laptop charger. BRB.
00:42:40 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: 
00:43:06 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Please check it out and maybe be a Partner… :)
00:44:44 Marie Murtagh: Subject/Object as a primordial duality
00:45:30 Rick Botelho: How might we cultivate moral humility in using models (such as spiral dynamics) to solve our complex entanglements of self-inflicted wicked problems? How might we simplify the complex language of these models to develop positive social innovations and entrepreneurial impacts that co-elevate our humanity and regenerate our planet? A question for another session.
https://www.perplexity.ai/search/how-might-we-cultivate-moral-h-9qvdufOfSaKbrpLFynTtNQ
00:46:22 Marie Murtagh: Replying to "How might we cultiva..."
I recommend the work of Glenda Eoyang at Human Systems Dynamics for some of what you might be looking for, Rick.
00:46:37 Marie Murtagh: Replying to "How might we cultiva..."
https://www.hsdinstitute.org/index.html
00:48:14 Rick Botelho: Replying to "How might we cultiva..."
Thanks, I am familiar with HSD.
00:48:25 Marie Murtagh: Nice, Jiyun
00:48:33 Marie Murtagh: Replying to "How might we cultiva..."
Super!!!
00:49:03 Shannon McArthur: I want to hear from others, please!
00:50:47 Michael Spayd: Shannon, you’re a very skilled facilitator.
00:51:17 Marie Murtagh: I would love to hear, Franka!
00:51:19 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "Shannon, you’re a ve..."
Thank you so much, Michael.
00:51:53 Rick Botelho: Replying to "How might we cultiva..."
See what ai thinks. https://www.perplexity.ai/search/how-might-we-cultivate-moral-h-8ZWdSOLjRiGzfVeYETDPLg
00:52:53 Marie Murtagh: Replying to "How might we cultiva..."
Fabulous, Rick!!
00:53:13 Marie Murtagh: Replying to "How might we cultiva..."
BTW, Michael teaches a class with Glenda.
00:54:16 Marie Murtagh: Great idea, Shannon!!
00:54:31 Tracey’s iPhone: Oh Cindy …. Brilliant answer/ contribution.
🙏
00:54:32 Michael Spayd: Time for me to go. Thanks everyone. See some of you tomorrow. I’m doing a presentation on being systemic beings in a systemic world.
00:55:39 Neeyaz & Saeed: Replying to "Shannon, you’re a ve..."
agreed
00:56:37 Cindy Wigglesworth: Come to hear Michael Spayd tomorrow with me and Marie and Nish all joining in
00:56:56 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "Come to hear Michael..."
Looking forward to it!!
01:00:33 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: Kurt gets to go now. Let’s start practicing this PeaceMaker Meditation so that we BreedLOVE. It also prompts: super concentration, stress management, and enhanced performance through it’s psycho-somatic-spiritual system that greatly helps anyone. In just 8 minutes: https://youtu.be/8pbxX8o2WmA?si=BXULD73LfghhUDVF Print description: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FSvS3tbFTw3hKmpJeiOtgz2HB_GeWZDccoHjsuGP8pI/edit?usp=sharing
“Peace IN Everything, Ever ything WITH Peace” will reverberate throughout the day… making it the focus and bringing us more peace and also for ‘others.’ Be the PeaceMaker radiating Peace.
Whenever you say goodbye, please do it with The Peace Salute, https://youtu.be/iAknrhuvPr0 ZOOM PEACE into the world. Young people love it! You can also. :)
01:01:40 Annelies Weijschedé | Bella! Center: @Rick Botelho On this page you might like to read some ‘slogans’ per stage from CHE/Synnervate… (and there is so many more entrances and application as Marie just shares now of course ) https://spiraldynamicsintegral.nl/en/overview-value-systems/
01:02:42 Marie Murtagh: Replying to "@Rick Botelho On thi..."
This is a treasure trove of information and knowledge, Annelies!
01:02:52 Marie Murtagh: Replying to "@Rick Botelho On thi..."
I’ve wanted to visit!
01:03:02 Marie Murtagh: I gotta run and take my dogs for a walk!!
01:03:11 Annelies Weijschedé | Bella! Center: Replying to "@Rick Botelho On thi..."
:-))
01:03:33 Tarekegn Shado: Thank You all
01:04:20 Nish Dubashia: Thank you all. See you all tomorrow.
01:04:26 Cindy Wigglesworth: Got to run…need to walk my dog too. Hugs to all. See you tomorrow.
01:05:16 Annelies Weijschedé | Bella! Center: Yes thank you the beautiful diamonds connected to the spiral _/\_ I am leaving now also.
01:05:55 Rick Botelho: Gotta go. Enjoy the song about Kamala Harris. https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/listen-kamala-harris-song-share-your-favorite-version-rick-botelho-bdqae/
01:06:41 Franka Strietzel: Another SD luminary:
Natasha Todorovic-Cowan
(Chris Cowan’s widow and co-developer of SD)
Practical application in organizations:
https://youtu.be/ZKdE38L2fro?si=M_KOuzCuAwe7J8yq
01:07:33 Tracey’s iPhone: Yes 🙌…. found my tribe here💖🦘
01:11:10 Jiyun 7: Love you for dark shitty too?
01:11:36 Moses STEVENSON: LoveLoveLove
Namaste to All
01:13:07 Jiyun 7: It’s complex and takes time?
Teaching children since 2007 it’s simple but not easy - maybe looking into our inner snark heals? That’s hurtful. But who is hurting?
01:13:33 Jiyun 7: Miss Understood
Mr. E
01:13:47 Jiyun 7: Bye loves.
01:14:02 Tarekegn Shado: Thank you all for sharing .
01:33:49 Franka Strietzel: Villa of Mystery, Pompeji
https://youtu.be/SEzDiejb1a0?si=Z7lODgaDar6lcDZ2
01:33:52 Michael Coles: ·
There is no peace full life in the quest for equal rights & justice between life and death. It is truth of the lie that makes us to die.
~A Perspective B Thoughts
01:34:49 Tracey’s iPhone: Thanks Franca💝
01:41:35 Michael Coles: The sweetness of your eyes is like the taste of a rainbow
¬A Perspective B Thoughts
01:45:37 Bob Hayes: Last night, about 4am, the opossum was knocking at the window. I think expecting to get in before light and to be fed again.
I will have some more hard boiled eggs again tonight. 🌲😎🌲
01:46:43 Bob Hayes: Oh, I should try to get some photos
01:49:48 diana: Penguin Bloom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penguin_Bloom
01:49:59 Bob Hayes: Ravens in Winter
Book by Bernd Heinrich
Has some great stories & understanding for the corvid species of birds. Very good
01:51:46 Bob Hayes: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ravens_in_Winter
01:52:01 Michael Coles: "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take,
but by the moments that
take our breath away."
01:53:06 diana: Plot of above film: During a family vacation in Thailand, Sam Bloom accidentally falls off a high balcony and breaks her T6 thoracic vertebrae resulting in partial paralysis. Back home in Australia, Sam, an avid surfer, struggles to adjust to life in a wheelchair, but is supported by her husband Cameron, their three sons Noah, Rueben, and Oli, and Sam's overbearing mother Jan.
01:53:54 diana: One afternoon, the three boys find and bring home an injured magpie chick who they name Penguin. Sam is initially too despondent to care for Penguin but understands it's important to Noah, and as time goes on, she bonds with her. Noah feels guilty for being the one who asked his mum to go up to the balcony in Thailand and has withdrawn from her since the accident. Sam and Cameron's relationship also deteriorates as she struggles to find joy in daily life and wishes to forget who she was before the fall since she can no longer live in the same way. She demands he never ask her how she is. After several weeks, Penguin fully recovers and learns to fly, inspiring Sam to want to do something for herself; she starts kayaking lessons.
01:53:59 Bob Hayes: Sounds like 'instant karma' story
01:56:45 Michael Coles: If a River is dry,
is it still a River,
if it is not River,
what is its purpose!
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