Day901HRAfterChat
Humanity Rising Day 901 After Chat – Thursday April 18, 2024
- Back to Day Page for Humanity Rising Day 901
Chat from AfterChat Zoom from HR Day 901:
aka ChatPeople Chat
...
00:02:31 Stanley Pokras: This is the AfterChat for Day 901
00:05:46 Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network: ZOOM PEACE with The Peace Salute, ::https://youtu.be/iAknrhuvPr0:: whenever you say goodbye. Including the history of its creation. Youth love it.
00:06:12 Shannon McArthur: Hi Bob!! Good to see you!
00:08:09 Stanley Pokras: There is a need for people to insist that product packaging be compostable. It’s a possible way to reduce the mess and cut oil consumption.
00:11:15 Carly Biedul: I’m sorry I need to head out! Thank you all for caring!
00:13:43 Rob Hayes: ::https://www.cbsnews.com/news/saudi-company-fondomonte-arizona-ground-water-crop-alfalfa/::
Subsiding land because of water extraction - hay then sent to Saudi horse feeding
00:15:24 Shannon McArthur: Helena Norberg-Hodge
00:15:56 Shannon McArthur: ::https://www.localfutures.org/about-local-futures/who-we-are/helena-norberg-hodge/::
00:17:12 Carol Sue Engleman-FB Sarah Sue-Belize: Is there a pollution aspect to Salt Lake? What is the Selenium level? Does it relate at all to The Salton Sea?
00:25:29 Rob Hayes: Fondomonte, which is owned by one of the largest dairy companies in Saudi Arabia, bought vast tracts of desert in western Arizona on top of a massive groundwater aquifer in part because there are no regulations on how much water can be pumped out of the ground. Anyone who buys or leases land there can put in a well and draw water.
It's a challenge for the state. As climate change fuels devastating droughts, Arizona and its rapidly growing cities are facing drastic cuts to their surface water supply from the critically low Colorado River system.
"We cannot afford to give our water away frankly to anyone, let alone the Saudis, for free," said Mayes.
La Paz County supervisor Holly Irwin, who has been sounding the alarm about foreign-owned farms since they began operating there in 2015, said Fondomonte is growing alfalfa in the Arizona desert "because they've depleted their natural resource" back home.
Fondomonte trucks haul dried alfalfa off the property it uses and ships it back to the MidEast to feed cattle
00:27:19 Chandler Rosenberg: Are you all familiar with Jeremy Lent and his work with the Deep Transformation Network? Seems really linked to the work being done here! And his book the Web of Meaning was life changing for me
00:28:32 diana: Thank you, Chandler! I'm sure Leo will find th online info for that!!😊🙏
00:28:46 Shannon McArthur: Chandler, Jeremy’s work is known here. He’s been on HR 2x : ::https://othernetworks.org/Jeremy_Lent::
00:29:07 Stanley Pokras: Jeremy Lent
00:30:40 Rob Hayes: Land 'ownership' can take advantage to 'common pool resources' to the disadvantages of everyone.
Elinor Ostrom talked about the responsibility of the cooperatives organized to protect these resources like forests, fisheries, clean air & water, etc.
She mentioned that CONSEQUENCES are usually arranged for ABUSES to the common good.
QQQ: How might these similar consequences emerge here - in USA - to restore the effective balance that's needed??? Thanks 💚
00:31:00 Chandler Rosenberg: I’ve got to jump — what an incredible group! Really inspired and enlivened by your energy and curiosity here. Thank you for having us and for bringing attention to GSL. <3
00:31:44 Chandler Rosenberg: chandler.rosenberg@gmail.com
00:32:07 Shannon McArthur: sparklingwithall@gmail.com
00:34:47 Ben Abbott: gsl.byu.edu
00:35:09 Shannon McArthur: ::http://gsl.byu.edu:: has a history of Great Salt Lake
00:35:25 Ben Abbott: ::https://greatsaltlake.utah.gov/updates/great-salt-lake-story-map-released::
00:39:25 Michael Coles: ::https://canadiangeographic.ca/author/paulette-steeves/:: PAULETTE STEEVES
00:40:43 Leo Jacoby: Ladato si by Pope Francis: "integral ecology" responding to the cry of the earth AND cry of the poor.
00:41:52 bonnie ONeill: Great session.. sorry to have to leave
00:42:05 Stanley Pokras: Michel Bauwens from Michel’s Substack Curated Article: A bibliography for studying the history, not just of the world, but of the universe
4thgenerationcivilization@substack.com
00:43:47 Rob Hayes: Platform Cooperativism!
00:45:20 Rob Hayes: ::https://platform.coop/people/michel-bauwens/::
00:45:43 Rob Hayes: Bio
Michel Bauwens is the founder and director of the P2P Foundation and works in collaboration with a global group of researchers in the exploration of peer production, governance, and property. Michel is also research director of CommonsTransition.org. a platform for policy development aimed toward a society of the Commons and a founding member of the Commons Strategies Group, with Silke Helfrich and David Bollier, organizers of major global conferences on the commons and economics. He has (co-)published various books and reports in English, Dutch and French, such as (with Vasilis Kostakis), “Network Society and Future Scenarios for a Collaborative Economy.” Michel currently lives in Chiang Mai, Thailand and last spring, crafted a Commons Transition Plan for the city of Ghent in Belgium, after a similar project for Ecuador in 2014. For the next three years he is also an adviser to SMart.coop, a fast growing European labour mutual for autonomous workers.
00:46:18 Rob Hayes: Email
pcc@newschool.edu
Address
Platform Cooperativism Consortium
79 5th Ave 16th floor, Rm. 1601
New York, NY 10003
USA
00:47:42 Rob Hayes: Michel Bauwens is a Belgian Peer-to-Peer theorist and an active writer, researcher and conference speaker on the subject of technology, culture and business innovation. Michel Bauwens is a theorist in the emerging field of P2P theory and director and founder of the P2P Foundation, a global organization of researchers working in collaboration in the exploration of peer production, governance, and property. He has authored a number of essays, including his seminal thesis The Political Economy of Peer Production.
Platform cooperativism in the context of alternative infrastructures for the commons economy
The key drama of the transition of our times is that capital has understood much faster than the alternative political and economic forces that mutualization of knowledge and infrastructures was on the order of the day, and by organizing extractive activities around our commoning and peer to peer exchanges.Platform cooperatives may be an interestng social market alternative, but is it a commons-based alternativ
00:47:55 Rob Hayes: ::http://platformcoop.net/participants/michel-bauwens::
00:48:17 Rob Hayes: ::http://p2pfoundation.net/Main_Page::
00:48:48 Rob Hayes: ::http://platformcoop.net/platform-cooperativism-by-trebor-scholz::
00:50:15 Rob Hayes: INDEPENDENT WORKFORCE
Freelancers Union is a non-profit organization serving as a support system for independents through advocacy, education, and services. So, whether you’re a creative, a solopreneur, or a founder, we’re working to secure a better future for you.
00:50:58 Leo Jacoby: ::https://deeptransformation.network/feed:: ALSO: ::https://www.jeremylent.com/::
00:51:09 Rob Hayes: ( join for free )
00:52:50 Shannon McArthur: Robert, thank you!! Freelancers Union looks very interesting.
00:53:50 Leo Jacoby: ::https://robertedwardgrant.com/::
00:56:54 Shannon McArthur: Shii Tuii: ::https://othernetworks.org/HR!Day880::
00:57:03 Rob Hayes: Tom Lent!
00:57:07 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "Shii Tuii: ::https://o::..."
Does tours of Mount Shasta
00:57:18 Rob Hayes: 21st?
00:57:30 Rob Hayes: V cool!
00:57:51 Rob Hayes: Lynn?
00:57:58 Leo Jacoby: I missed HR today because I was in a book discussion of Jeremy Lent's The Web of Meaning.
00:58:41 Moses STEVENSON: Fascinating and. Thank. Yoy
00:58:42 Rob Hayes: Paul Riser & Lynn Robinson? I just saw here at Quaker meeting 2 was ago...
00:59:40 Leo Jacoby: Cobb Institute is hosting Jeremy Lent April 20 3 PM CT zoom on Ecological Civilization.
00:59:43 Rob Hayes: Thanks Stan.
I've got a 1:30 pm Zoom in 2 minutes.
See you later.
Humanity Rising Links
- Back to Day Page for Humanity Rising Day 901
- Back to Top
- Expand to Humanity Rising Pages: