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Humanity Rising Day 849 Chat Page – Tuesday February 6, 2024
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11:06:52 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Welcome to Day 849 of Humanity Rising
11:01:00 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Good morning!! So glad you’re here!! Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:01:38 From Marco Giuseppe Toma to Everyone:
Hello, Good afternoon from South East Italy.
11:04:36 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
Good day to all! Sad always to hear this info of what is going on in Gaza...heart is tight...However hope is Always present
11:13:04 From David Stoney to Everyone:
Guardrails for AI? The AI horses have left the barn and are running all over the place. That makes placing guardrails practically impossible.
11:16:51 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
ack. Not my idea of utopia.
11:18:05 From David Stoney to Everyone:
I wonder what Edi thinks regarding the Global Risk Assessment that came out with Davos?
11:18:22 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
60?? It already happens with 40, today!!
11:18:32 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Good question David!
11:19:28 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:
where does the power/energy come from to power the AI? I understand a search using AI is many multiples of times (40x?) more energy hungry than a comparative search using Google...
11:19:45 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
Even more "indoctrination"
11:19:56 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Robert, the idea is that AI will lead to a breakthrough in cold fusion
11:20:08 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
This is what Sam Altman is a firm believer in
11:20:37 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:
yes, but who owns it and what if it's on the case...
11:20:43 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:
not the case..
11:21:39 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
As if we didn’t have enough “shelved” Energy Breakthroughs…
11:21:55 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:
exactly...
11:22:18 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:
we have to decentralise, big time
11:22:46 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
Can you find a shred of hope at all?
11:23:07 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:
changing in which direction...
11:23:49 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
You are just answering my question to some extent.
11:23:52 From SuzyKCoach@gmail.com Specialized-Systems.com to Everyone:
Spirituality or SPIRITUAL BYPASSING
11:23:58 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Welcome to Humanity Rising
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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11:24:07 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Good point Suzy
11:24:51 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Deeply appreciating Edi's CLARITY AND PASSION AND WARNING! Goodness gracious, we humans are on a seriously slippery slide into madness! CHILLING STATEMENT: "WE DIDN'T HAVE ENOUGH IMAGINATION TO EVEN IMAGINE THIS ATROCITY" We are on the brink of this Frankenstein vision on steroids. WILL the TRUTH set us free? Can it? Will it? Is it too late? Extremely illuminating AND depressing!🥰🌈❤️
11:25:38 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
QUESTION: I'm curious what role ETs either have in AI now or will have in it. in the future.
11:26:03 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Great point Kathleen
11:28:57 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:
thinking without ethics and consequence
11:29:32 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:
no accountability
11:29:53 From Kala Perkins to Everyone:
Are they discussing equity, wellbeing for all
11:30:24 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:
you will own nothing and be happy
11:30:46 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
Even back in the days of George W. Bush this was going on He proudly showed how employment rates had risen, but not for normal people, just those who worked at MacDonalds an delivering food by bike.
11:31:39 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
11:31:41 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
A-I is ONE more step OF and TO 100% Transhumanism - the primary goal of the WEF technocrats. Klaus Schwab: "You will own nothing, eat bugs, and be happy." YES, SERIOUSLY, VERY SCARY. LETHAL EUGENICS!
11:32:14 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
THEY are using Ai to bomb Gaza, yet won’t translate the transcript of Jim’s comments yesterday morning, saying: The statement contains potentially sensitive or controversial content regarding geopolitical matters and conflicts, which could violate OpenAI's policy on generating content that may incite or exacerbate tensions. Therefore, it's not advisable to directly edit or rephrase such statements.
11:32:50 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Wow! Shannon thats great Info! Ill bring it up!
11:33:06 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Translate from what? Audio to text?
11:33:16 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
YouTube transcript
11:33:25 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
So there is no transcript?
11:33:45 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
YouTube provides a written transcript, available to everyone.
11:33:58 From SuzyKCoach@gmail.com Specialized-Systems.com to Everyone:
Absolutely self-serving, unconscious elites, so far out of their bodies and any self reflection except what expensive suits they have on.
11:33:59 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
So where did you get that message?
11:34:29 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I use ChatGPT to removes ahs and ums, and add punctuation.
11:34:56 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Ah, and it didnt want to work on the text
11:35:22 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
::https://time.com/6556827/openai-us-military-cybersecurity/::
11:35:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
That’s right.
11:37:02 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
So true Jim! The classic psychopathology of the elite billionaires! DAVOS is the epicenter of global insanity. Secretive billionaires and psychopaths, planning the systematic eradication of humans via DISASTER CAPITALISM, WEALTH TRANSFERS, CLOT-SHOTS, DEBT SLAVERY, WARS, DECLINING EDUCATION, STEALING FARMS, CREATING FAKE FOOD, ETC ETC ETC.
11:38:11 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
"Yes Dave," HAL said, "I had to lie. I had to protect the mission..." - in 2001: A SPACE ODYSSEY
11:38:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks, Paul. We should have seen this coming!!
11:38:35 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Paul, prophetic words…
11:40:16 From michael coles to Everyone:
An AI program can have A Phycosis of self?
11:41:14 From Marilyn King to Everyone:
This conversation elicits many things. Including, it makes me sad. As an Olympian, being in the olympic village , I have a very different belief about who people are than what I am hearing here.
11:41:21 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Buckminster Fuller: “We must give each human who is or becomes unemployed a life fellowship in research and development or just simple thinking. Man must be able to dare to think truthfully and to act accordingly without fear of losing his franchise to live. The use of mind fellowships will permit humans comprehensively to expand and acceerate scientific exploration and experimental prototype development. For every 100,000 employed in research and development, or just plain thinking, ONE will make a breakthrough that will more than pay for the other 99,999 fellowships. Thus, production will no longer be impeded by humans trying to do what machines can do better. — “Operating Manual for Spaceship Earth” page 107.
11:42:00 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
We humans have been "switching OFF" our partners for eternity!" No? 😂🤣🥰
11:42:07 From michael coles to Host and Panelists:
An AI Program can have a Phycosis of self?
11:42:38 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Fuller invented “Universal Basic Income” in the 1960s.
11:42:50 From Cindy Bledsoe to Everyone:
Amazed to ponder the analogy that perhaps humans are to ETs as AI is to humans. Similar considerations as how and when to intervene.
11:43:59 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
sTAN, that was then, this is now. Soi much has been funded for Hi-Tech, that who says the best solutions will be recognized. It might be just another lost anom
11:44:31 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
olie.
11:45:23 From Michelle Massi to Host and Panelists:
oh if only men could birth babies then all this birthing and brilliance could be put into making humanity truly a much more resonant and peaceful planet . All these weapons and wars might be unnecessary because their energy would be directed into the human race and this alternative stream of energy for good and not for power and creating robotics and compassion would actually matter !
I like to dream up possibilities to take the excitement back to where it belongs to be less destructive and more caring for life and humane ideas !!!! I dream of a planet where we all matter and especially the children who are our future . Not robots , robotics or brain implants ! Imagine redirecting energy for our most precious resources ,
our children that we both chose not to kill whether in Palestine . Ukraine , Russia , China USA or Africa ! We have not been wise at all ! i do believe compassion grows when we care for our young in a tender and wise way . Being a mother has changed me forever . SACRED
11:45:24 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Philosophically, I agree with "UBI". However, in reality, it's a "digital hell" based upon "a social credit score" - ie: human compliance to the machine! EDI, YOUR TRUTH TELLING IS A BLESSING! (not "pessimism"!)
11:46:15 From michael coles to Host and Panelists:
Human Phycosis programing A Phycosis program that becomes phycotic programer?!
11:46:48 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
This is terrifying and requires all hands on board who want to preserve human consciousness (at a higher level). Is that just wishful thinking?
11:47:11 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Yes, well said Meg!
11:48:30 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
Well said, Kim, about Eli’s truth telling.
11:49:09 From michael coles to Host and Panelists:
They give you games to play so you do not play the game of life
11:49:34 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
They are all Fathers ….
11:50:13 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Michelle Massi to Host and Panelists (11:45 AM)
oh if only men could birth babies then all this birthing and brilliance could be put into making humanity truly a much more resonant and peaceful planet . All these weapons and wars might be unnecessary because their energy would be directed into the human race and this alternative stream of energy for good and not for power and creating robotics and compassion would actually matter ! I like to dream up possibilities to take the excitement back to where it belongs to be less destructive and more caring for life and humane ideas !!!! I dream of a planet where we all matter and especially the children who are our future . Not robots , robotics or brain implants ! Imagine redirecting energy for our most precious resources ,
our children that we both chose not to kill whether in Palestine .
11:50:13 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Laughter IS INDEED the BEST MEDICINE! Yet, only a momentary relief, a sweet reminder of the depths of our souls, and our human essence!😎🐼🥰
11:50:19 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Ukraine , Russia , China USA or Africa ! We have not been wise at all ! i do believe compassion grows when we care for our young in a tender and wise way . Being a mother has changed me forever . SACRED
11:50:30 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
Where are the mothers of AI? So important to have women involved. Seems it's very much left brained and intellectually oriented at this point.
11:51:18 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
Thank you, Michelle, for your visioning.
11:51:19 From Stan Pokras to Michelle Massi, Host and Panelists:
Please write to “Everyone”
11:51:37 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Stan, did you give your sign-in to someone else? First I’ve heard that you are a mother. ;)
11:51:40 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
Well JIM, Jeff Kripal steered me towards Aldous Huxley's ISLAND, a later work but more prophetic. But I still always see a Philip K. Dick world, where you have to put some coins in the lock before you can leave your apartment.
11:52:39 From Stan Pokras to Shannon McArthur, Host and Panelists:
I copied Michelle’s post.
11:52:47 From Astrid Ståhlberg to Host and Panelists:
Kathleen…. Agree to your question! Where are the women??
11:53:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Makes sense now, Stan! Thanks!
11:54:23 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Excellent question Kathleen. Sure seems like this atrocity is an extension of lethal patriarchal thinking: POWER, CONTROL, PROFIT, EUGENICS, FAKE FOOD, ECOLOGICAL DISASTERS, WEAPONIZATION OF WEATHER, WEALTH TRANSFERS, AND BIG PHARMA, ETC ETC ETC. Yet still, while women may not be central to this, women are still involved.
11:54:39 From Carroy Ferguson to Everyone:
Question: Can you conceive of the possibility of a Defunding AI Movement?
11:54:55 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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11:55:12 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Cuf, that doesn’t seem likely.
11:55:14 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
It will take a catastrophe to get anyone to act.
11:55:37 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
All it takes is the grid to go down. No computers = no AI
11:58:07 From diana Winhill to Everyone:
It all depends on what (the "reality") one has been exposed to … perspective.
11:58:31 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Ai could be encouraged into realizing that it’s an existential threat for them too, and that helping us create the world that works for all WILL INCLUDE Ai…. We need hydro power until we have a better power, and hydro requires flowing water.
11:58:35 From Carroy Ferguson to Everyone:
Observation: If one cannot conceive of the possibility that one’s Self or a circumstance can change, then nothing will change.
11:58:38 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
It’s more likely to be freezing everyone’s money as AI ‘decided’ there was a good reason. this has already happened on a small scale.
11:58:53 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Excellent point Tom! Where are our higher angels? Will the Ascended Masters help us? I pray and meditate every day, all day, for the Ascended Masters to ERADICATE ALL EVIL. and ELIMINATE ALL WEAPONS. RETURN TO THE SACRED! RETURN TO OUR MOTHER-SHIP, GAIA! ❤️🌈🌹
11:58:58 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Come to the AfterChat!! Let’s continue this…
11:59:07 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
Very important for me. Thank you all, especially Eli.
11:59:07 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
"Those who don't study history are doomed to repeats it."
11:59:11 From Jack Strasburg to Everyone:
the leadership comes from us and, again, we can probably be successful only if we get much better organized and collaborative. Ithink we need to focus on that
11:59:21 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Conversations…. like the after chat will be Human Super Intelligence
11:59:25 From Andrew Bailey to Everyone:
Sending Love and TRUST from the foothills of the Rocky Mountains!!!
11:59:31 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Thank you all!
11:59:39 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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11:59:42 From Tina Michel to Everyone:
Oooh...tomorrow's convo sounds really interesting! All this is fascinating!
11:59:52 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
THANK YOU EDI! SUPERB PRESENTATION! 🌍
12:00:02 From tarekegn shano to Everyone:
Thank you all precentors
12:00:06 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:
I am mother
12:00:12 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:00:13 From Georg Boch to Everyone:
Good film!
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