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Humanity Rising Day 845 Chat Page   –   Wednesday January 31, 2024

Text of the Zoom Chat from Humanity Rising Day 845

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11:00:53 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Good to be here… So glad You’re here!! Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!

11:01:17 From Tex J. G. Albert to Everyone:

   🙏💞

11:02:02 From Urszula Hawes to Everyone:

   Greetings from white/grey misty  Cornwall, UK

11:02:23 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Good Morning, Shannon. Today is Day 845 of Humanity Rising.

11:02:37 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:

   And greetings from windy west cost of Sweden.

11:02:53 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:

   Greetings from Cambridge

11:05:02 From Jennifer Comeau to Everyone:

   Greetings from Maine.

11:05:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Please do not get lost in the agony. Please remember this time is important for learning but it is not to lose yourself in. This skill of detachment is important. It is also important to answer the call within to act where and how you can, while holding true to your path. You have a voice, and a will. Use them. Listen well. Thank you for coming.

11:06:21 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   Thank you, Shannon. Wise, excellent thought and words.

11:07:49 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   Quantities

11:08:00 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   I am thankful that Jim seems to be remaining calm and factual, today.

11:08:15 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   🙏🏼

11:08:46 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:

   What Jim is saying NEEDS to be said

11:09:00 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   We Are ALL seeking Balance like Nature at our intrinsic Selves! Feel it & expand out into the biosphere 🌎

11:09:04 From Natalie Tobert to Everyone:

   Hyacinth - yes

11:09:08 From Sharon Marvel to Everyone:

   "a normal war"

11:09:41 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   A "normal" war ¿? That sounds so strange !!! I was writing the same Sharon

11:09:49 From yasmina groenstein to Everyone:

   As Compassionate witness we center in our hearts maintaining our frequency of love for Gaia, which is us. One. ❤️

11:10:10 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   Yes, Hyacinth - I fully agree. But without the emotions, please.

11:10:10 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   ❤️

11:10:35 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Yes, Hyacinth! Compassionate humans MUST turn towards the truth, NEVER AWAY from it.  Not getting "lost in the agony" REQUIRES the great privilege of not being too close to the agony!  Impossible to do, when you are IN or IN CLOSE PROXIMITY of the agony.  Rather, we must master our emotional body, which takes courage, skill, and devotion to the TRUTH.  No wonder Africa is leading the charge of Genocide!  I celebrate their courageous action!

11:11:14 From Sharon Marvel to Everyone:

   indeed very strange, especially to those of us with a deep different knowing

11:11:15 From Kat Haber to Everyone:

   Will Black rock get government contract to rebuild?

11:11:33 From Sharon Marvel to Everyone:

   prob Kat

11:11:52 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   Kat, your comment is - unfortunately - very valid 😢

11:13:09 From Astrid Ståhlberg to Everyone:

   I just come back from Swedish lessons for refugees from Ukraine; quite a lot families and other in the Stockholm area…..

11:14:14 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:

   Good work Astrid!

11:14:20 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Yesterday’s Nugget was hard to write. https://sonlightsparklingonthewaters.weebly.com/jims-nuggets/raise-a-ruckus-for-good-in-all  Today’s, no easier.

11:14:21 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   Goodness !!!

11:14:55 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   There is reason to believe that some of the “effectiveness” of those weapons (some new) are being filmed to be used to sell them to tyrants

11:14:58 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:

   It is painful for me to acknowledge the atrocities and deliberate cruelty, when I have prayed and wept  for the Perpetrators for 70 years.  No mor tears but prayers continueN

11:14:59 From Tricia Fortina to Everyone:

   Thank you, Shannon for your Daily service...  I appreciate you and your time spent.

11:15:04 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Just saw “Why We Go To War” Grand Jury winner at the Sundance Film Festival.

11:15:17 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   Jim, what happened to the Israeli woman that you had on Humanity Rising back in October a few days after this began?   My memory is that she had a lot of questions about the beginning of this conflict, and if my memory is correct her boyfriend? was arrested for being in some kind of protest in Israel.  Could she come on HR again?   Or would she do so at great personal risk?

11:15:18 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   Phosporous bombs - isn't that what was used against the civilians, in Hamburg and in Dresden?  Incredibly horrible.

11:15:58 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Why are humans afraid of "deep emotions"?  and "dark emotions" Please!  Everyone, consider your white western US privilege, and examine your own fragility and denial. Consider reading this excellent book, by a HOLOCAUST survivor:  "Healing THROUGH the Dark Emotions"  Center ourselves in pure compassion and profound sorrow! Thanks of taking this perspective in!❤️

11:16:35 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Our “civilized” world has been on a major moral slide since we were horrified by Guernica.  Bombing civilians from afar is just standard operating procedure these days.

11:17:09 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   👍🏼

11:17:13 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:

   I hear you Jim,...and my heart is tight...feeling the sickness that has collectively  taken over!our planet. Very sad..however we don´t giveup! Love, Peace and harmonyto ALL

11:17:18 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thanks, Tricia and Diana, and all of you who are here with your hearts and minds open. We are moving forward, I know. The future we dream of is forming.

11:17:18 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   So why does Jung’s Red Book have a drawing of Thor with the caption “You need war. Goodness of itself cannot dissolve good”?

11:17:32 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:

   could it be related to the Crusades?

11:17:43 From Kate Sheehan Roach to Host and Panelists:

   https://www.npr.org/sections/pictureshow/2024/01/29/1225728725/israel-gaza-war-photos

11:18:26 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:

   No more tears but prayers that all will SEE the result of the cruelty.  I am thinking of the Parable of Dives and Lazarus.

11:18:31 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Good point Amy.  SAME PLAYBOOK OF WAR!  Power - Profits - Control - EUGENICS - Seizure of land, children, slaves...

11:19:38 From Kate Sheehan Roach to Host and Panelists:

   https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/100th-day-gaza-genocide-100000-palestinians-killed-missing-or-wounded-enar

11:20:11 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   The biggest problem is that which leadership forces Palestine has? Unfortunately...only Hamas !!!

11:20:18 From Dai to Everyone:

   NAtional ZIonism you say? History doesn't repeat but it does often rhyme.

11:21:54 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Yes Jim!  LETHAL combo:  Nationalism, Zionism, and Militarism - backed by endless western weapons and military might.  TRAGIC TOXIC MIXTURE! 100% PREVENTABLE ATROCITES, creating lasting trauma for generations.

11:22:16 From Sharon Marvel to Everyone:

   thank you, All, for holding the high place for all leaders and our precious 🌎 home🙏

11:22:40 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Bible history scholars have shown so much myth in the book of Joshua.   The famous walls of Jericho, for instance, had fallen long before Joshua’s alleged battle.

11:23:13 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   https://berlin.wolf.ox.ac.uk/published_works/singles/bib181a.pdf (The Consience of Israel

   A Tribute to Yishayahu Leibowitz by Isaiah Berlin 1981)

11:23:30 From Andrew Bailey to Everyone:

   “keep only the virgin females!” Don’t forget that little detail.

11:24:09 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jI3yNi5xMJw

11:24:14 From Merle Lefkoff to Host and Panelists:

   Girard explored this same territory in his philosophy of mimesis—the oppressed mirroring their oppression by becoming the oppressor.

11:24:20 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   What’s that, Raquel?

11:24:23 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   "in the name of the Lord" so difficult to comprehend

11:24:33 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Could this perpetual cycle of War be resolved in another dimension? I read that somewhere…the wave of peaceful Revolution COULD  come in a shape & form unlike any other known phenomenon, no? If ENERGY follows thought, Open our thoughts to a new way of thinking?

11:24:34 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Yes Andrew, important reminder!  Sex slavery and rape culture are central to all Imperialism and war.

11:24:42 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   An Interview that I posed to Ken Wilber about Israel and Palestine

11:24:55 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:

   God told them to kill every living thing an take ut all?

11:25:03 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   https://hummusforthought.com/2014/12/27/from-humanity-to-bestiality-an-encounter-with-yeshayahu-leibowitz/

11:25:06 From Carroy Ferguson to Everyone:

   In alignment with today’s theme, I humbly offer again a reference to an article I wrote some years ago, which stresses “fear” and “projection” as the root causes of war.  Here’s the link:  https://www.academia.edu/65966476/Fear_and_Projection_as_Root_Causes_of_War_and_the_Archetypal_Energies_Trust_and_Peace_as_Antidotes

11:25:13 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:

   no accountability

11:25:25 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:

   everything goes

11:25:26 From Natalie Tobert to Everyone:

   I asked if the Synagogue would like me to write a balanced article on Gaza.  Uniformly the editorial Team said no !  They didn't want to read anything I wrote. The rabbi kindly visited me.   I asked another secular organisation if they would like that article: one man, David, said yes,  But the Editorial Board said no!.  So my article is rejected by two editorial boards.  It is unread.

11:26:01 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   Fabulous Carroy !!! Thank you

11:26:10 From Bruce Robertson to Everyone:

   Thank hyoou Jim

11:27:05 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Natalie, talk to Stan. I imagine there is room in OtherNetworks for your writings. Stan@OtherNetworks.org

11:27:09 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   Oh Natalie, sorry for that.  Would you like to share it with us?

11:27:18 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   Please

11:27:35 From Natalie Tobert to Everyone:

   Thank you - I'd like to , don't know how.

11:27:46 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Stan’s email is above.

11:27:49 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Dreams are revealing the truth

11:28:05 From Natalie Tobert to Everyone:

   Stan doesn't reply - I've tried that - thank you

11:28:26 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Or come to the AfterChat… Stan’s not real good with email, it’s true!

11:28:29 From Michael Brownstein to Host and Panelists:

   Not only Jung but Wilhelm Reich…see The Mass Psychology of Fascism and People in Trouble…Reich looks not to the collective unconscious but to denial of the body

11:28:34 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   You may read it to You Tube and pass the link to us or also do what Sharon telss you about sending it to Stan !!!

11:29:15 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:

   I do NOT accept that interpretation.  Once upon a time I did, but no longer.  The Master Jesus preached PEACE and LOVE, hatred destroys.  And we see this TODAY.

11:29:55 From Natalie Tobert to Everyone:

   I sent it two weeks ago.

11:30:30 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Thanks, Cuz!  Yes, and since each of us has a role in the collective unconscious, we each can guide US to a better way.  Remember to keep your own steady orientation. When my life and house were at risk, I needed help to remember who I was and keep the peace orientation.  Which was exactly the better course.

11:31:04 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Stan doesn’t ignore people by design. I just have too many things going on. Come to the AfterChat.  You can join the After Chat here:       

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11:31:28 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   https://twitter.com/DrSakriKaia/status/1751295611562066299 (Last edited 11:26 AM · Jan 27, 2024)

   DrKaiaRaeSakri @DrSakriKaia

      Yeshayahu Leibowitz, regarded as “the conscience of Israel”, warned Israel years ago that “if it did not separate Church and State, it would give rise to a corrupt rabbinate, warp Judaism into a fascistic cult.  Religious nationalism is to religion what National Socialism was to socialism.”

      He understood that the blind veneration of the military was dangerous and would lead to the destruction of democracy.  

      “Our situation will deteriorate to that of a second Vietnam, to a war in constant escalation without prospect of ultimate resolution.  

      The Arabs would be the working people and the Jews the administrators, inspectors, officials and police - mainly secret police.  A state ruling a hostile population of 1.5 million to 2 million foreigners would necessarily become a police state, with all that this implies for education, free speech, and democratic institutions.

11:31:29 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   The corruption characteristic of every colonial regime would also prevail in the State of Israel.  The administration would have to suppress Arab insurgency on the one hand and acquire Arab Quislings on the other.  There is also a good reason to fear that the IDF which has been until now a people’s army, would, as a result of being transformed into an army of occupation, degenerate, and it’s commanders, who will have become military governors, resemble their colleagues in other nations.”

      He knew that racism would consume Israeli society; prolonged occupation would give rise to concentration camps and finally, he concluded:

      “ISRAEL WOULD NOT DESERVE TO EXIST, AND IT WILL NOT BE WORTHWHILE TO PRESERVE IT.”

11:32:05 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   This morning I found myself Googling Wotan.

11:32:16 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Wow Shannon…

11:32:48 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:

   God of thunder was Thor.

11:32:56 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Sadly I know someone in the states who recently told me her church changed the commandment Do Not Kill to Do Not Murder because sometimes it is needed to kill… ugh!

11:32:58 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   Wow Leo 🙏🏼

11:33:11 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   https://www.lewisconnolly.com/post/2021/12/6/wotan-dormant-in-the-wood?format=amp

11:33:19 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Natalie, I encourage you to get your article to a platform.

11:34:10 From Natalie Tobert to Everyone:

   Amy thank you _ I don't know how.  I'd need support.

11:34:25 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:

   what a screwed up, nutty species humans are

11:34:48 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   "Wotan is a restless wanderer who creates unrest and stirs up strife, now here, now there, and works magic. He was soon changed by Christianity into the devil, and only lived on in fading local traditions as a ghostly hunter who was seen with his retinue, flickering like a will o’ the wisp through the stormy night. In the Middle Ages the role of the restless wanderer was taken over by Ahasuerus, the Wandering Jew, which is not a Jewish but a Christian legend. The motif of the wanderer who has not accepted Christ was projected on the Jews, in the same way as we always rediscover our unconscious psychic contents in other people. At any rate the coincidence of anti-Semitism with the reawakening of Wotan is a psychological subtlety that may perhaps be worth mentioning." - https://www.philosopher.eu/others-writings/essay-on-wotan-w-nietzsche-c-g-jung/

11:35:54 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   In the interview I made to Ken Wilber he said that Israel and Palestine both need Psychotherapy !!!

11:36:03 From Kala Perkins to Host and Panelists:

   The Christendom did the same thing to the Indigenous people of the Earth… even the Catars - the truly spiritual Christians

11:36:35 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Sign up for the Jewish Voice for Peace half hour and make connections there.  I find the daily gathering extremely helpful.  Today, they’ll be talking about my city Minneapolis, but I won’t be able to attend!

11:36:55 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Amy, do you have a link?

11:36:56 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Yes. Jim "seizure of the German psyche, by Wotan, happened in the context of DEEP PROFOUND SHAME and DESTRUCTION after losing WW I. Jung had dreams of rivers of blood, wherein he predicted World War II.  Hitler did not act alone, the Catholic Church funded all sides of the war, backed by US corporations who had already learned that "WAR IS BIG BUSINESS"  For shame!  For shame!  For shame!

11:37:22 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   Both cultures/societies need to enter a deep process of healing ancestral trauma.

11:37:25 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   Odin delved into forbidden women’s mysteries for which he sacrificed an “eye”. Perhaps he gained the predominance of the right brain seeing of the whole, the flowing, the imaginative, represented by his raven Munin. The raven Hugin perhaps represents the left brain hunter, extractor, killer…

11:37:40 From Stan Pokras to Kala Perkins, Host and Panelists:

   PLEASE change the blue “To” button to “Everyone” if you want your comments to be seen by all who are watching.

11:37:47 From bonnie ONeill to Host and Panelists:

   How canI turn off the chat. I find it so distracting

11:38:00 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   https://www.jewishvoiceforpeace.org

11:38:10 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   thanks

11:38:20 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   The Shadow is definitely happening in a malignant manner now. How do we balance the impact to tip the scales for healing and balance? Deep shame & rage in the Human Psyche needs to be addressed wholeheartedly.🙌❤️🙏

11:38:26 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   Oh Kim !!! Yes what a shame !!!

11:39:11 From Jane Norton to Everyone:

   Is MAGA /the Trump base an example of archetypal obsession?

11:39:33 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   YES it is an stupidity ...and also insane and also a genocide !!!

11:39:41 From Marilyn Schramm to Everyone:

   ABSOLUTELY, Jane

11:39:43 From Michelle Massi to Host and Panelists:

   sleepwalking our way to terror ! eek  MM

11:39:54 From Micha Austen to Everyone:

   Thank you for holding this space.. as a German woman with an open, broken, open heart while listening 🙏❤️‍🔥

11:40:36 From Sharon Marvel to Everyone:

   sounds like Patricia Anne Davis' discussion on "wetiko"

11:40:37 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   God Micha I'm sure it is not easy for you to hear and hold all that !!!

11:40:42 From Bruce Robinson to Host and Panelists:

   I fought off Wotan within myself

11:40:47 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   I'm with your heart and soul

11:40:59 From Bruce Robinson to Everyone:

   I fought off Wotan within myself

11:41:11 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   👍🏼

11:41:17 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:

   The TRAUMA of BOTH peoples need Psychotherapy.  I see that the youth of Ukraine is undergoing such a program to deal with it after TWO YEARS.  How about the children of Gaza who have suffered the same TRAUMA for 70 YEARS????

11:41:25 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   It’s what we all need to do, Bruce.

11:41:56 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   info@jewishvoiceforpeace.org.   Ask how to join the Power Half Hour 2 pm Central on zoom,  Here’s the YouTube livestream….If the Zoom room is full, join us here: https://www.youtube.com/@JewishVoiceforPeace/streams

11:42:20 From Barbro Esbjörnsdotter to Everyone:

   A well known truth.

11:42:31 From Micha Austen to Everyone:

   Raquel thank you 🙏✨

11:42:49 From David Stoney to Everyone:

   There is a powerful archetype manifesting in today’s world that naturally arises at what should be  this transitional stage of the earth’s climate cycle.  This stage would usher in, except for man-made global warming, the next long, cold, dry glacial phase and an archetype of awakening and wholeness arises from the collective depths of the human psyche.  This archetype manifests as a deep, but unfocused anxiety, that for the psychologically ungrounded and immature, can lead to a projection of their own shadow contents onto the ‘other,’ whom they blame for their discomfort.  It can also promote an archetype of apocalypse wherein one comes to anticipate imminent world ending events.  I’ve described this archetype and its effects in my recent paper, In These Last Days: The Extraordinary Uniqueness of Our Time.  I’ll include a link to that paper in the AfterChat,

11:42:54 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   THANK YOU JIM for your courageous moral proclamation!  A necessary thought provoking truth.

11:43:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   My grandmother was German. She left Germany because she attended a rally for Hitler and didn’t like what she heard. I am deeply grateful for her action, and the land and people who received her.

11:43:17 From Urszula Hawes to Everyone:

   Possession is still an entity that governs personal, gender, group, and world identity formations.  To overcome, override, superimpose with a true life alignment is a journey of self development, on behalf of all Humanity.

11:44:08 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   Yes dear Micha I've seen so many germans (as my niece and grandniece live in Berlín since 15 years ago) feeling so bad for the past … that I can understand every feeling and sensitivty that they had !!!

11:46:23 From Kala Perkins to Everyone:

   And Australia…

11:46:59 From Micha Austen to Everyone:

   Raquel oh i can sense this feelings heavy and dark.. but .. I learned about the iight …very difficult to find but still there🙏

11:47:30 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   ❤️

11:48:44 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:

   our consciousness and education, and understand are very different now.. we have been learning over the centuries.. so we should not use an excuse of 100 years ago to justify what is happening today.. that's my thinking anyway

11:48:48 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   if they had come in as kin...

11:48:56 From Andrew Bailey to Everyone:

   An example of the Nazi migration to the US is the Uihlein family, founders of Uline, a major distributor of shipping, industrial, and packaging materials to businesses throughout North America. Uline, known for its extensive catalog of products ranging from cardboard boxes to other packaging and shipping supplies, was founded in 1980 by Liz and Dick Uihlein. The company is headquartered in Pleasant Prairie, Wisconsin, and has grown to be one of the largest distributors in its sector in the United States. The Uihlein family has a significant presence in the Midwest and is known for their philanthropy and support of conservative causes, specifically the elimination of democracy.

11:49:24 From Kala Perkins to Everyone:

   And in Greece before WWII

11:49:53 From Annelies2 Weijschede to Everyone:

   Israel will never be able to provide a “homeland” for Jews or Palestinians, Hanna Arendt wrote in 1948. Hannah Arendt tried with her articles to prevent the establishment of an independent Jewish state on foreign territory, because, according to her, this would result in a state of permanent war. “Even if the Jews ever win this war,” she wrote in 1948 in To Save the Jewish Homeland, “the country will become something very different from what we dreamed of.”

11:50:50 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   The difference is that Spaniards had that colonialists archetype and impulse in the lower level of Consciousness.  What happens with nazism (and now with Ukrania/Russia and Israel/Palestine is that it's happened when WE, the human beings seemed to be already EVOLVE !!! And we're astonished to SEE that WE ARE NOT !!!

11:51:10 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   We Collectively are at a place to correct that mental construct that was created after WWII. Pretty obvious truth that is destroying our chances for survival! That is where the shadow needs to come into balance with humanity’s ability to cohabitate with ALL cultures thriving as Humans!

11:51:29 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Heart Intelligence

11:51:40 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Yes, Dehanna. Yes.

11:52:35 From Urszula Hawes to Everyone:

   This evocation/summation of the occult arisings within our human his story, is not like a bucket of freezing water being thrown at us.   Indeed, Jim has prepared us well to hear this wisdom at this time today.  Prepared beforehand, he lessens the shock horror, because we are here and agree to listen.

11:53:08 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   Similar Situation with Prisoners of war in Russia

11:53:15 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:

   what about the US$500Bln worth of natural gas that is under the economic zone of Gaza?

11:53:31 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Predominant Mental Impressions can affect Compassion and Peace. See how we may establish more… Here’s a first step to get INside Peace. It is a ProBiotic that anyone can take to cure humanity’s inhumanity to others ~ AND bring a Peace that surpasses understanding. It also brings Super Concentration opening one to inspiration and enthusiasm. To be fully effective, this gets to be done periodically through the day, until well practiced to fully work.  https://docs.google.com/document/d/1OzwiiZCI_CdYLVKiZvSnUlUV1greo5zC6jxqF17Vb8E/edit?usp=sharing

   

   Let’s start practicing this PeaceMaker Meditation so that we BreedLOVE. Here’s a 15 minute video describing PeaceMaker Meditation. https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo  Peace IN Everything, Everything AS Peace will reverberate throughout your day… This cue-word/mantra is used in your HOME language. The Law of Predominant Mental Impression makes it the focus in the mind and day thus attracting more peace to you and ‘others.’

11:53:45 From Natalie Tobert to Everyone:

   Amy thank you - I have emailed to them just now, and asked about it.

11:54:05 From Michael Brownstein to Host and Panelists:

   Jim, You have hit the nail on the head with this. Thank you

11:54:21 From Andrew Bailey to Everyone:

   Another example: The Koch family, including Charles and David Koch.

11:54:45 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   I hope that Jim will join us in the AfterChat. He will probably close early so I do hope he gives us an opportunity to speak to him directly. Stan, any idea?

11:54:54 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Check out this pure emotion and truthful outrage! Form this Irish elected leader:  Irish MEP Clare Daly calls US President 'Butcher Biden'   https://youtu.be/IqiT_RmIHzA?si=7-23VkStolFZw58u  LOVE THIS TRUTHFUL OUTRAGE!

11:57:16 From Andrew Bailey to Everyone:

   Who among us knows about wetiko? It seems to underlie everything Jim is talking about.

11:57:49 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

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11:57:50 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:

   Clare Daley speaks TRUTH to Power.

11:58:09 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Andrew, yes, I thought about Wetiko too.

11:58:22 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   And YET LOVE Will always WIN inside our hearts and souls … if we maintain CONSCIOUSNESS!!!

11:58:25 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Militarism has destroyed our planet more than any other force… and continues to “upgrade” nuclear weapons… How can we call ourselves an intelligent species?!!!

11:58:49 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   👍🏼

11:58:55 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   We had a program on Wetiko: https://sonlightsparklingonthewaters.weebly.com/jims-nuggets/wetiko-what-are-you

11:59:32 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   @Andrew - Thank you.

    "Wetiko - A contagious psycho-spiritual disease of the soul is currently being acted out en masse on the world stage via an insidious collective psychosis of titanic proportions. This mind-virus—which Native Americans have called “wetiko”—covertly operates through the unconscious blind spots in the human psyche, rendering people oblivious to their own madness and compelling them to act against their own best interests. Wetiko is a psychosis in the true sense of the word, “a sickness of the spirit.” Wetiko covertly influences our perceptions so as to act itself out through us while simultaneously hiding itself from being seen." - https://www.innertraditions.com/blog/wetiko-in-a-nutshell

11:59:32 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   Thank you Shannon

12:00:41 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   MOM is with us, as evidenced by my search for Wotan this morning before even coming here.

12:00:48 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   “When the Power of Love Overcomes the Love of Power, The World Will Know PEACE” Jimi Hendrix

12:00:51 From Kala Perkins to Everyone:

   There are also many Israelis protesting Netanyahu and for a cease fire in Gaza.

12:01:05 From Roberto SCIFFO to Everyone:

   👍

12:01:43 From Bruce Robertson to Everyone:

   Thank you Jim for hyour courage to speak the trjuth.  Theemperor has no clothjes.

12:02:06 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   Yes! Speak to the DoD, Jim.

12:02:16 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   And then if Christianity is going to die, it Will also die Judaism and also the Islamism as well !!!

12:02:20 From Kala Perkins to Everyone:

   https://youtu.be/iby0IkXs-sA?feature=shared

12:02:38 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Something immense NEEDS to happen in the human psyche. Thank you, Jim.

12:02:45 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   It’s ALL ENERGY…let’s keep asking for Universal Wisdom how to heal the deepest wounds of our Collective Consciousness!

12:02:47 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Kala, what’s that?

12:03:16 From David Stoney to Everyone:

   A selection from After the Catastrophe by Carl Jung, 1945.

   once a man is cut off from the nourishing roots of instinct, he becomes the shuttle-cock of every wind that blows. He is then no better than a sick animal, demoralized and degenerate, and nothing short of a catastrophe can bring him back to health.

12:03:43 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   The Chinese are biding their time…

12:03:48 From Urszula Hawes to Everyone:

   Yes...Dehan..with this I agree.  Thank you.

12:04:01 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:

   Men is (on the whole) waged by men.  Women need to say ENOUGH1

12:04:07 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:

   Any one of us can go berserk — and so can troops and so can supporters.  Being human is a revolutionary act — we must claim it out of corruption!

12:04:18 From Michael Brownstein to Host and Panelists:

   Let’s Burn the Flags of All Nations, read it

12:04:43 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:

   Remind me, how do we get a copy of this amazing chat.

12:04:48 From Andrew Bailey to Everyone:

   I have a 3-day old granddaughter, born the 28th in Kauai, Hawaii. Her name is Name.

12:04:50 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   It Will be wonderful if Mythiic RELIGIONS would be overcomed by real Mysticism/Spirituality (Integral or higher level of Consciousness!!!  That would mean that we're evolving even if it is trespassing the pains of deliverance !!!

12:04:58 From Jane Norton to Everyone:

   Appreciate your deep analysis of this horrifying situation, Jim.

12:05:05 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Our design is ALTRUISTIC!

12:05:12 From Kala Perkins to Everyone:

   It’s Israelis protesting in Tel Aviv for a Ceasefire and an end to the war - and to replace Netanyahu -Thousands have been in the streets protesting Netanyahu and his government for a year and now more than

12:05:16 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:

   Path with Heart

12:05:26 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   It’ll be in OtherNetworks.org, Kathleen. Stan sends out the links every day. Contact him at Stan@OtherNetworks.org

12:05:36 From Andrew Bailey to Everyone:

   Her name is Nami, not Name.

12:05:42 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

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12:05:44 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:

   > https://www.commentary.org/articles/mortbarrgmailcom/to-save-the-jewish-homelandthere-is-still-time/ (by Morton Barr)

   > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJy-MHPJEAU (1:34:17 VRG: The Jewish Writings #12 (Discussion of "The Jewish State: To Save the Jewish Homeland" by Hannah Arendt)

   > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Origins_of_Totalitarianism#: (1951, Hannah Arendt's first major work, wherein she describes and analyzes Nazism and Stalinism as the major totalitarian political movements of the first half of the 20th century.)

12:05:46 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:

   Perhaps to examine deeply what it means to be a human being. A message of Tadodaho Chief Leon Shenandoah.

12:05:48 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Pray, ask, find balance!

12:05:51 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   We always need to pray with our whole body, heart and soul !!!

12:06:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Come to the AfterChat, my friends, Let’s all talk to JIM!!!

12:06:06 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:

   Wow Jim, powerful… poignant. Thank you

12:06:06 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

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12:06:10 From Raquel Torrent to Everyone:

   THANKS a lot dearest Jim and Congratulations on the birth of your grandson !!!

12:06:15 From Merle Lefkoff to Everyone:

   Wow!  Great!

12:06:16 From Dehanna Rice to Everyone:

   Jim you are a Brilliant Orator!

12:06:18 From tarekegn shano to Everyone:

   THANK YOU so much JIM

12:06:22 From Marijke Kuipers to Host and Panelists:

   Marvelous Jim, thank you….

12:06:24 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Linda Tucker is very inspirational!! Love the Lions!!

12:06:27 From Elena Saalzar to Host and Panelists:

   Thank you!

12:06:28 From Andrew Bailey to Everyone:

   THANK YOU JIM!

12:06:32 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

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