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Humanity Rising Day 833 After Chat – Monday January 15, 2023
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00:02:12 Stanley Pokras: This is the AferChat for Day 833
00:02:57 Jiyun 7: You create beautiful unity dear Shannon/MOM.
00:05:17 Jiyun 7: Love to hear from Todd! Thank you.
00:06:37 Shannon McArthur: Hey, Jeff!!! Hi, good to see you!
00:07:05 Jiyun 7: Can we ask what’s the message?
00:07:12 Jeff Dunne: Pleasure to see you(and everyone) again!
00:09:03 Jiyun 7: What can we do about the danger?
00:09:42 diana: Bonnie, could you tell us of your experience, please???
00:13:05 Jiyun 7: YES!! 🙌
00:14:51 Leon: Jeff/Todd - have a question on what helps strengthening one’s consciousness to help influence the field positively. (I remember someone saying compassion, anything else? And anything that one can do to practice to keep improving it)
00:15:08 Jeff Dunne: Ejna, there are actually many opportunities for connecting on these matters - lots of organizations doing this. For ICRL, for example, we have monthly Meetups, and are soon going to be starting up a weekly opportunity as well.
00:15:54 Jeff Dunne: Leon, that weekly thing I just mentioned is exactly on that point of positivity.
00:15:56 Jiyun 7: Beautiful Paul.
00:18:08 Jeff Dunne: ::https://icrl.org/online-discussions/::
00:18:54 bonnie ONeill: Sorry I need to leave...have a blessed day!
00:19:40 Ejna Jean Fleury: Lovely to be here!! Need to take leave!❤️
00:23:16 Sharon Joy Kleitsch: Neil deGrasse Tyson is on a tour. Encourage others to join you and have a follow up. He will speak to the universe.
00:24:05 Shannon McArthur: Sharon Joy, I’d love to hear you speak to us about that…
00:25:43 Jiyun 7: @Stanley Pokras great share! Arthur Young has invented helicopter studying dragonfly toroidal geometry energies at MOMA. Science arts.
00:26:34 Urszula Hawes: Winged Pharoah: The Far Memories Book 1 - Joan Grant
00:26:38 Jiyun 7: You can release past life trauma and let it go?! Cur chords happening now. New lineage starting.
00:26:53 Jiyun 7: Cut
00:28:24 Leo Jacoby: ::https://archive.org/details/consciousnessrea0000muse:: (BORROW: Consciousness and reality; the human pivot point by Musès, Charles and Arthur M. Young, eds. 1972)
00:28:29 Jiyun 7: Brene Brown Atlas of the Heart 💜 beyond shame/guilt. Controls us through (Christian) fear belonging. Goes against Christ’s empowerment.
We’re all powerful creatures co-creating flourishing.
00:29:06 Jiyun 7: Yes!!
00:29:28 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "Yes!!"
❤️🔥
00:30:13 Shannon McArthur: Schumann Resonances
00:30:17 Stanley Pokras: We send links and recordings. Post your email address
00:31:08 Bob Hayes: ::https://www.heartmath.org/about-us/request-a-speaker/rollin-mccraty/::
00:31:25 Shannon McArthur: Welcome to the AfterChat! Stan sends out an email every day with the links to the HR recording and this recording, along with the chats for both. If you’d like to receive the email, send Stan a message with your email. Stan@OtherNetworks.org
00:31:37 Jiyun 7: ::https://www.heartmath.org/gci/gcms/live-data/::
00:31:51 Stanley Pokras: Jiyun… I have a copy of Arthur’s “The Bell Notes” now it’s time for me to read it!
00:32:14 Susanne Kasack/Heusser: very inspiring as always here.. thank you soo much !! keep up the good work stan, shannon, jim , jeff ect.. need to leave for today ..
00:32:18 Jiyun 7: @Stanley Pokras yes!! Cymatics by Hans Jenny too?
00:32:29 Shannon McArthur: Susanne, Bye for now!!
00:32:47 Susanne Kasack/Heusser: by for now shannon
00:32:55 Jeff Dunne: www.icrl.org
00:33:06 Jeff Dunne: jad@icrl.org
00:33:11 Shannon McArthur: My internet is unstable… lost sound for a bit there…
00:33:23 Jeff Dunne: ::https://icrl.org/online-discussions/::
00:33:27 Stanley Pokras: ::http://jad@icrl.org::
00:33:51 Leo Jacoby: ::https://arthuryoung.com/:: (1905-1995 “The earlier concept of a universe made up of physical particles interacting according to fixed laws is no longer tenable. It is implicit in present findings that action rather than matter is basic… ")
00:34:19 Jeff Dunne: ::https://icrl.org::
00:34:21 Jiyun 7: I’d love to connect you to Tuscon science of consciousness - I’ve presented there. Leading Nano technology Pemrose Chomsky all discussing consciousness and hard problem which you’re addressing. Love co-creating communities.
00:37:05 Leo Jacoby: ::https://noetic.org/about/noetic-sciences/:: (The Interconnected Nature of Reality. Noetic sciences reveal a deeper understanding of our inner worlds, our shared reality, and the interconnection between all things.)
00:38:29 Jiyun 7: Yes! We’re co-curating experiences too. Goes from disbelief curiosity to raising awareness and empowering.
Love to know eight characters - thanks so much!
00:39:21 diana: Yes, please: what are the 8 characteristics in Groups?
00:42:29 Shannon McArthur: Kirulian Photography…
00:42:33 SharonJoy Kleitsch St Pete FL: F. Future Course
The empirical success of our hypothesis, limited as it may be, points to a progressively more comprehensive examination of other subjective factors that may bear on these anomalous effects. We are attempting now to extend such under standing by more detailed evaluation of the subjective qualities characterizing the original, confirmatory, and new exploratory applications described above . While it is difficult to specify such qualities with precision since they are by their nature defined in personal terms, it nevertheless is possible to list some concepts that generally seem to characterize conditions or situations in which we may expect an anomalous effect:
00:42:34 Jiyun 7: Karen Barad’s intra-connected onto-epistemic quantum already made breathing taken up by leading UN environmentalists. Can connect you?
00:42:42 Leo Jacoby: ::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kirlian_photography::
00:42:55 Shannon McArthur: Thanks, Leo!
00:42:58 SharonJoy Kleitsch St Pete FL: 1. Group resonance, particularly in emotionally meaningful contexts;
2. High ratios of subjective to objective, or emotional to intellectual contents;
3. Relatively profound personal involvement, especially if shared in a group;
4. Deeply engrossing, fully interactive communication;
5. Situations or sites that are spiritually engaging;
6. Circumstances that evoke a sense of fun and humor ;
7. Activities that are intensely creative ;
8. Freshness or novelty for participants.
00:43:41 SharonJoy Kleitsch St Pete FL: It is important also to consider the null deviation venues, which regularly show reduced variance of segment scores. These typically do not have a global structure or a unifying theme, and possess few of the characteristics listed above. Rather, they tend to be highly analytical or designed to transmit specific, well-defined, objective information. While they may engage participants intellectually, they tend to exclude personal and emotional reactions and interactions. In fact, there is an implicit presumption that objective considerations will take precedence over subjective experience.
00:44:04 SharonJoy Kleitsch St Pete FL: Ultimately, of course, it will be necessary to seek an explanatory model and theoretical structure to accommodate these results (Jahn & Dunne, 1988). An adequate model must help us to understand both the intention-driven laboratory experiments, and the field studies where little or no attention is given to the REG and there is no explicit intention. It also must address the obvious relevance of numerous subjective factors, and acknowledge the apparent insensitivity of the anomalous effects to recognized physical variables, including spatial or temporal separations, or the type of random source involved.
00:45:49 SharonJoy Kleitsch St Pete FL: As a very crude initiative, we postulate the existence of a pervasive 'consciousness information field' that may, under certain circumstances, exhibit detectable modulations generated by individuals or groups. More specifically,it is proposed that via this field, human consciousness can act as a radiating source of information, capable of affecting otherwise random processes by inserting some degree of order and making them slightly more predictable. Since the environmental aspects that seem to correlate most strongly with such anomalous effects are subjective in character, this structuring influence, which might be labeled 'subjective information’, involves the attribution of meaning to situations or events.
00:46:04 SharonJoy Kleitsch St Pete FL: In the field experiments reported here, as in the intention-based laboratory experiments, this modification of the consciousness information field appears to manifest through alterations of statistical distributions generated by suitably prepared physical systems that have random or undetermined components. In the laboratory experiments, these alterations appear to be driven by operator intention, wishing, or purpose, and seem to be amplified by some form of emotional or spiritual resonance. In t he field experiments, resonance seems to play the primary role, supplemented by some less conscious state of intention.
00:46:13 Jiyun 7: Yes! Thanks. Russians technology using for decades. Still in use… advertising elections Facebook.
00:46:23 SharonJoy Kleitsch St Pete FL: Although, by their nature, subjective properties are particularly difficult to specify or monitor, let alone to quantify, we are persuaded that their inclusion is essential for understanding the anomalous interactions of consciousness with its environment (Jahn & Dunne, 1997) . The FieldREG experiments comprise a promising empirical vehicle for technical assessment of natural, operational situations where people are engaged in activities employing the full range of their capabilities. Among these, apparently, are heretofore undetected direct interactions of consciousness with random physical systems, t hat can reflect important characteristics of both.
00:51:51 Stanley Pokras: Yes… Goddess Shannon
00:52:16 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.academia.edu/85668662/The_tip_of_the_iceberg_placebo_experimenter_expectation_and_interference_phenomena_in_subconscious_information_flow:: (by Larry Dossey 2013, Journal of Nonlocality, Vol. II, Nr. 1, June 2013 55 pp. Panelists include "Dr. Roger Nelson, the Director of the Global Consciousness Project, which grew out of the research that he, together with Robert Jahn and Brenda Dunne, coordinated at the Princeton Engineering Anomalies Research (PEAR) lab for over two decades.")
- https://noosphere.princeton.edu/:: (The Global Consciousness Project: Meaningful Correlations in Random Data)
00:52:49 Jiyun 7: Newton and founder of chemistry Sir Roger Boyle fascinated by chemistry’s alchemy - as recorded in chemistry foundation (Philadelphia) documents.
Magic as we call it Tesla energies of planet and galaxies.
Beyond electro-magnetic fields gravitational waves edge of earth and rotational forces. Alchemical heart Anu psi ?
00:55:16 Paul Hillery: This whole idea of Time goes through a tremendous change when we grasp time warps, intergalactic travel, past and future going back to the pyramids and before It is not just picking up thoughts and having encounters hours or a day before. I>t is about the BIG picture which should be contemplated-. -
00:56:55 Susanne Kasack/Heusser: Jijyun .. i think this data is hold back by that hidden military lab ..it needs to be discloses… they have a lot of good stuff hidden there..
00:57:29 Jiyun 7: Indeed…
00:57:39 Susanne Kasack/Heusser: yes ..
01:03:26 SharonJoy Kleitsch St Pete FL: This has been an experiment among 40 Florida activists since Feb 2020 meeting each Monday evening. We experienced fields of collective intelligence can happen virtually, as well as in Face-to-face.
01:05:57 SharonJoy Kleitsch St Pete FL: FL Network: "Honoring Dr Martin Luther King Jr" with Russell Meyer Jan 15, 2024 @ 5-6:30 PM ET Zoom ::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/5428516985::
01:06:55 Jiyun 7: Sorry off screen to eat.
01:07:11 Paul Hillery: The negative energy and dismissals negates a degree of the positive which is why we need that mental state of positivism so stop the static so we can fully connect.
01:10:07 Shannon McArthur: Replying to "The negative energy ..."
👍🏻
01:10:22 Paul Hillery: And MOM would tell you that we all love our children, but not all...
01:12:51 Shannon McArthur: As you describe, Jiyun, a “shared knowledge foundation” I suggest is = another box to hold us in/back… yet, seems a step up. We DO need a new different frame /step.
01:13:44 Jeff Dunne: ::https://www.amazon.com/Nexus-Jeff-Dunne/dp/1936033410::
01:14:59 Shannon McArthur: Thanks for the link to your book, Jeff! Great read!!
01:15:31 Todd Bureau: Must jump off —Thanks all for helping to push this species forward…
01:15:51 SharonJoy Kleitsch St Pete FL: Have you heard of IIndra
01:15:58 SharonJoy Kleitsch St Pete FL: Indra’s Net?
01:16:46 Paul: Thank you so much - I need to take run 🙏
01:17:32 SharonJoy Kleitsch St Pete FL: This is selected by Spaniard storyteller Grian Cutanda as the myth of the future.
01:17:51 Shannon McArthur: I got to go, guys!! It’s wonderful being with you.
01:18:20 Jiyun 7: Great book suggestion - thanks ! 🙏
01:18:45 Jiyun 7: Ofc - indra’s net yes!
01:19:16 Norm and Sue: ET 101 is written by a woman
01:19:56 Susanne Kasack/Heusser: dear sue, i also get in contact witht eh australien healer .. how ca i contact her pls ?
01:20:24 SharonJoy Kleitsch St Pete FL: Check out Elisabet Sahtouris upcoming VISTA
01:20:44 Susanne Kasack/Heusser: ok thnxs
01:23:22 Leo Jacoby: Source article re. 8 characteristics of groups (find under discussion section "F. Future Course"):
- https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1550830707000730:: (full text of Nelson RD, Jahn RG, Dunne BJ, Dobyns YH, Bradish GJ. FieldREG II: consciousness field effects: replications and explorations. Explore (NY). 2007 May-Jun;3(3):279-93, 344.)
01:23:32 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phP9kecFbEc:: (1:42:52 Nexus with Dr Jeffrey Dunne in conversation with Alex Gomez-Marin Recorded on April 18, 2023. Includes transcript.)
01:24:20 Sharon: Jiyun, would love your email address!
01:24:31 Jiyun 7: Thanks! Love Nexus with Pari.
01:24:46 Urszula Hawes: Replying to "dear sue, i also get..."
PHOEBE ALWELL - healerCall Phoebe 0418296107 for details and address of the Byron Bay office.
01:25:30 Paul Hillery: Many in the western world were introduced to this concept in 1988, through Gateway, an aborigine shaman who never says a word, but can teleport anywhere. Jeff Kripal, Chair in Philosophy and Religion at Rice University and a director at Esalen, wrote a wonderful book, MUTANTS AND MYSTICS which goes into all this. It brilliantly explains how comic books inspire research.
01:25:40 Jiyun 7: jjiyunpark@yahoo.com
01:26:13 diana: Replying to "dear sue, i also get..."
Thank you, Urszula❣️
01:26:32 Stanley Pokras: E.T. 101
01:26:48 Urszula Hawes: Replying to "dear sue, i also get..."
ET101 Cosmic Instruction Manual
01:28:28 Leo Jacoby: ::https://worldupshift.org/posts/3VlFiLVqQlq6ez4DprFuO3/jeff-dunne-on-the-mission-of-the-icrl::
01:29:00 Jiyun 7: Thanks @Leo Jacoby
01:30:38 Leo Jacoby: ::https://archive.org/details/e.-t.-101-the-cosmic-instruction-manual-zoev-jho:: (BORROW: E. T. 101 The Cosmic Instruction Manual Zoev JhoE. T. 101: The Cosmic Instruction Manual for Planetary Evolution- An Emergency Remedial Earth Edition by Zoev Jho 1995)
01:30:39 Susanne Kasack/Heusser: thnxs leo …
01:30:40 Sharon: Replying to "jjiyunpark@yahoo.com"
Thx J, will reach ou...
01:31:36 SharonJoy Kleitsch St Pete FL: We have a proposal for the Tampa Bay Regional Planning Council’s Regional Resilient Summit. They focus on seawalls, highways and bridges and ours is on feeding ourselves in the coming decades.
01:32:43 Paul Hillery: But MEN love too. I love my two kids, my wife and even my ex-wife. But I love all of you too!
01:35:30 Heather Tischbein: I’m going to sign off now. See you all tomorrow. I live in a red state, too…so it’s always a bit scary to speak up.
01:35:36 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3rDZZUagiEg_mSqQeR09uQ:: (Jeff's YouTube channel 26 videos)
01:39:32 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojNrxh4tlVI:: (1:34:44 Humanity Rising Day 706: Nexus: a Novel for Exploring the Nature of Time, Causality, and Purpose with Dr. Jeffrey Dunne)
01:40:29 Sharon: Wowza Paul!Circle songs with his groups are my favorite!
01:41:06 Norm and Sue: Thanks Jeff for your knowledge, wisdom, and love, Sue and Norm. We have to get going now!!
01:42:15 Leon: Thank you everyone
01:44:55 Jeff Dunne: Heading out - wishing everyone a wonderful evening, week, month, year...
01:47:07 Urszula Hawes: Paul, have you heard the notes left by Dolores Cannon about the Ancient Druids? Horns of the Goddess
01:52:13 Leo Jacoby: ::https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/64659793-horns-of-the-goddess:: (Horns of the Goddess by Dolores Cannon 2022 Dolores Cannon (1931 - 2014) was a self described "past-life regressionist" and hypnotherapist who specialized in the "recovery and cataloging" of "Lost Knowledge". Her roots in hypnosis went back to the 1960s, and she was specializing in past-life therapy since 1979. 116 books)
01:59:37 Urszula Hawes: Sharon Marvel
02:01:37 Stanley Pokras: Shannon McArthur <sparklingwithall@gmail.com>
02:01:54 Urszula Hawes: Shannon McArthur
02:02:06 Stanley Pokras: Stan@othernetworks.org
02:03:03 Urszula Hawes: Replying to "Shannon McArthur"
02:04:57 Stanley Pokras: chataction@communitymagic.org
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