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Humanity Rising Day 806 Chat Page – Friday November 17, 2023
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10:46:23 From Griffin de Luce To Stanley Pokras(Privately):
griffin.deluce@gmail.com
11:00:05 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
ON Companion on Day 805 Suggests Topics for Future HR
The Companion suggests ways it can help people further the work of Humanity Rising ::https://othernetworks.org/HR!Day805::
11:01:49 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
What a week!!! Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:02:16 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Welcome to Day 806 of Humanity Rising
11:03:49 From Kat Haber To All Panelists:
What are the traditional lands of AI @Shannon?
11:04:37 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
What are the traditional lands of AI @Shannon?
11:05:20 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Oooo… hmmm… good question.
11:05:33 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
The Imagine Nation, perhaps!
11:07:51 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Love your both - Synchronicity!
11:08:12 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
YES! Gladly take these brilliant men Soulful presenters OVER any and all "artificial" anything!😂🤣😇
11:08:30 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Kenyon college talk - author?
11:08:46 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
::https://jamesclear.com/great-speeches/this-is-water-by-david-foster-wallace:: Transcript of his fish speech
11:08:48 From Sarita Patel To All Panelists:
For anyone who questions everything... please watch young story tellers use their trauma to question and diseect the world around them thru film. this is about AI without using the word 🙏🏼::https://youtu.be/PBOo0W9vSHw?si=T7K_jFvJlDAUCdeA::
11:09:05 From Leo Jacoby To Everyone:
::https://fs.blog/david-foster-wallace-this-is-water/:: (includes audio)
11:09:24 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Thanks @kat and @lee. 🙏
11:10:11 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
If you have a couple of hours to invest in listening to the existential question of what IS reality and how are we collectively living the Hero’s Journey, these guys hit it out of the park: ::https://youtu.be/eoC_YA0RB3g?si=jaVSLZ7cqrr-1_q9::
11:10:57 From Mary Thorp_WV To Everyone:
You said Jim, “What is it to be human?”
I’ve for decades been, with many others, dwelling in, “What is the being of human being?”
We’ve been pretty much living in the human part of human being as we move to the ‘being’ of human being.
11:11:02 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Thanks, Tom. Georg, you bring the best people!! Thanks for joining us, Griffin!
11:11:27 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Anneloes!! Lovely that you grace my screen today!! Perfect!
11:11:28 From Sarita Patel To All Panelists:
@shannon- i listened to it last night YES!! please listen all! we are in new school
11:11:56 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
David Foster Wallace "This Is Water": ::https://youtu.be/ms2BvRbjOYo?si=ARYpSPFLLEuRbjeN::
11:12:29 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Joscha, I don’t know you yet. Nice to have the opportunity to… thanks for coming.
11:13:34 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Hi Joscha!
Nice to see you again since consciousness’s La Jolla 2017.
11:13:35 From Jean Yzer To Everyone:
yay, a female on the panel, I was getting worried 😟
11:13:48 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
Tom, I Iove the wise "FISHY" story! WHY would anyone trust A-I in the hands of UNTRUSTWORTHY, GREEDY, CORPORATIONS WHO WEAPONIZE NEARLY EVERYTHING? Will humans wakeup in time to notice the "Water" we are swimming in? - heading right towards "TRANSHUMNIST AGENDA" Who does THAT benefit? These are my deepest concerns.
11:15:00 From Meg Newhouse To All Panelists:
Joscha, will you be at MIT anytime in the next year? My grandson Laker Newhouse is a junior there majoring in AI and math and I’m sure he would love to meet you.
11:16:19 From Kathleen McTeigue To Everyone:
Important questions, Kim. I agree.
11:16:44 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
That is what seduction looks like. It is not tricky, IMO. reality is key, only reality keeps life alive, nothing else matters!!!
11:17:24 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
Thanks Kathleen! Appreciate it!
11:17:38 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Consciousness is far bigger than life.
11:17:53 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
Consciousness IS life
11:18:14 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Lovely to disagree with you, my friend.
11:18:19 From Monica Plant To Everyone:
I also was wondering, Jean, if the makeup of the panels this week reflects the general demographic of gender/race/class of those who are engaging with/harnessing/engaging/in conversation with AI.
11:18:45 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
Seduction? Tricker? NOT the REGENERATIVE LIVING world I want to live in and share with others!
11:19:24 From Paul Hillery To Everyone:
are the philologists involved in this? Is AI being programmed with this embedded or in mind?
11:20:54 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
The scripts that infect so many on the far right.
11:22:58 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
I’m grateful for gallery view that allows me to see thoughts cross the minds of our guests. These are important questions.
11:24:43 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
The Convergence of Homo & Silicon Sapiens is happening right here on Humanity Rising. Thanks to the leadership of Jon Ramer, the AfterChat has built the OtherNetworks Companion, an AI tool that can be fed with all of the OtherNetworks data about Humanity Rising including the topics, the actual presentations, the presenters and the commentaries in the Chat.
11:24:47 From Sarita Patel To All Panelists:
Humanity is splitting off into new tribes We are going into a split and that will be a new geography
11:25:17 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
Does a tree befriend me even though I have strayed from my connection to nature? Yes, because the tree holds the level of discernment and wisdom to fully be the tree and befriend me as well.
11:25:22 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
AI could bring values and ethics to children who's environment does not support these; eg abusive households, war zones, poverty.. then they could also do the opposite...
11:26:08 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Sarita and everyone, please set the Blue “To” to “Everyone” so that all who are watching can see your comments.
11:26:27 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Sarita Patel to Host and Panelists (11:24 AM)
Humanity is splitting off into new tribes We are going into a split and that will be a new geography
11:26:39 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Stan, it’s been an amazing experience, working with Jon, you and Everyone in the AfterChat on the beginnings of the creation of the OtherNetworks Companion!
11:27:15 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
@Roberto- yes to where AI can be utilized in polarized environments
11:28:04 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
Yes.. it is a tool.. and it all depends how we use it
11:28:05 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
Thank you Stan!! Elder Editing in Action 🌟
11:28:23 From Jean Yzer To Everyone:
Monica, I too am wondered this week .... is there a gender imbalance in those currently engaging with and creating AI? of course I appreciate the emotional intelligence of many of the men in this community. How would the other gender create AI?
11:29:21 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Forgive this divergence, but was struck by Joscea’s comment about emails from those who have given up on relationships. WOW given up on relationships? How are we failing to offer even basic belonging to each other? I am thinking in the USA of the many mostly young men who choose to mass murder rather than answer to how we/they are failing to feel they belong to a community. For who have been severely medicated for decades for neural divergent social behavior-So many students taking Ritalin for ADHD, autism, other non social behavior.
11:29:23 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
Internet, Gaming, iphones.... all moved very fast without any breaks
we need to use the breaks and learn first before the humans break
11:29:50 From Carroy Ferguson To Everyone:
I found myself thinking of the movie “Megan”, built as a human-like friend by a mother for her daughter. But, Megan turned violent, “thinking” it was “protecting” her friend.
11:30:12 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Logos
Ethos
Pathos
11:30:44 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
We are navigating the dance of intellect and intuition.
11:30:45 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
the movies like Megan- show audience what the plan is..... but most people are entertained - not informed
11:31:13 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
Terrifying! Sorrowful! Pathetic! Human-machine relationships? Really? Where is our courage and conviction to ask this: How do we create deep meaning and community? Like Humanity Rising does? And - What are the roots of psychopathology? Why are humans so depressed, lonely, desperate? Dying from pills, guns and fentanyl? Are we using the "TOOL" OR is the TOOL using us? and to what end game? 😎
11:31:21 From Jack Strasburg To Everyone:
Can AI be hypnotized?
11:31:33 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
The OtherNetworks Companion has been asked two questions. ON Companion on Day 805 Suggests Topics for Future HR
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List of Episodes that HR hasn't done yet but can consider… ::https://othernetworks.org/ON_Companion_on_Day_805_Suggests_Topics_for_Future_HR::
11:32:42 From Monica Plant To Everyone:
I appreciate your questions, Jean.
11:33:05 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
THX1138 Watch it- we are here. Clone Wars- we are here. there are solutions and from my humble opinion- its here with Humanity Rising think and share tank
11:33:07 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Perceive ourselves in the act of percieving.
11:33:36 From Diane. To Everyone:
Have to add - I'm saddened by the thought that people don't feel that they can relate to any humans so are searching to relate to machines and electronics. Why are we not teaching and sharing that - we are all connected whether we like it or not so - we need to work harder to understand 'relationships' xxx
11:34:46 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
The Companion suggests ways it can help people further the work of Humanity Rising. ::https://othernetworks.org/The_Companion_suggests_ways_it_can_help_people_further_the_work_of_Humanity_Rising::
11:35:08 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Diane, yes. Relationships allow nature/us to thrive.
11:36:02 From jiyun park To Everyone:
WOW! Yes!!! Anachronisms.
11:36:07 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
QUESTION: Why would we wish to clone ourselves?
11:36:13 From jiyun park To Everyone:
For Medicine too.
11:36:33 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
JB: Negotiate with the cells, governance, language, train cells, consciousness is self-reflexive, branches out and builds its own tools, Study for Exam-learn what give us the greatest power of inference, with the most with what we have got, rather than statistics over all our Xperience, converges faster, LLM reads every available text, for humans this amount of text is vastly incompatible for humans not clear current limits of AI, perhaps better at AI research than humans, read all scientific paper, sumarrize for the entire tree of science to see what remains, many intellectual traditions may need to be adjusted, beyond understanding of individual, what we can learn in a lifetime.
11:38:39 From Paul Hillery To Everyone:
If AI could ingest It would be all the scientific papers who could stop it from creating Ultimate Weapons from things that kill to mind control.
11:39:05 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
The motive to do so, Paul, is lacking.
11:39:35 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
In AI. The problem is people.
11:39:41 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
PEOPLE… Please STOP using the Q&A feature unless you are asking PERSONAL questions. The Q&A is useless as a group learning tool since it is not recorded anywhere. PLEASE post your questions here in the chat preceded with the word “QUESTION”
11:39:43 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Children born with increased capacities… knowing. Morphic resonance?
11:40:04 From Paul Hillery To Everyone:
That's what you say. History tells a different story.
11:41:08 From Jack Strasburg To Everyone:
The existence of extraterrestrials is pretty well documented and their very high level of technology is well demonstrated. So I think we can assume that at least many of them have had to deal with the AI conundrum. And it is pretty well documented that a number of earthlings have the ability to communicate with them. So why don't we just ask them how they dealt with AI
11:41:12 From Monica Plant To Everyone:
Can we widen the conversation to include Anneloese?
11:41:18 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
This moment can be here to show us that we are the technology we're looking for. What innate human capacities can we reactivate? How can we rebalance intellect and intuition in relation with the natural world, relying more on ourselves without giving over too much to AI. Disclosure will show us who we truly are and we will be overjoyed. Then today's questions will be answered.
11:41:52 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Emerging evolutionary indigo rainbow crystal diamond children post WWI WWII.
11:42:13 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Yes Cindy!!
11:42:51 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
I agree, Cindy!
11:42:53 From Kathleen McTeigue To Everyone:
Interested to hear more from Anneloes.
11:42:53 From jiyun park To Everyone:
What about quality of information? Qualia?
11:43:05 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
How many people do you know that are Being Human rather than simply a human being. Where does one wish to focus? On a quality life of love and helpfulness?
11:43:36 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
Yes, Kurt
11:43:37 From Paul Hillery To Everyone:
I wonder if Joscha knows why Trump is #1 candidate. <most games are about battles.
11:43:39 From Astrid Ståhlberg To Everyone:
Agree Cindy….
11:44:45 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
JB: deas/info/expressions…first was gigabytes large all celebrities/visual universe we can capture in our mind-80% vision, multiplicity in order of gigabyte, current system is inefficient, scale up, multipolar world likely to remain for a while, think about all the possibilities and how they will interact and be realized where, limiting, allow many to be 1% as productive as before, some pretended to work via zoom during COVID, society transmits info, chatGPT access for kids, can shortcut and individualize learning, answers on demand, creative expressions iterating, multiple forms of extending these “stories”, how can we find human mind interaction is meaningful, easy access to calories, relative non violence, more people in shortest amount of time, less future/purpose/ fit into greater game of life in Earth, interacting more deeply.
11:44:47 From Andrew Stock To All Panelists:
how is it less violent now?
11:44:59 From Diane. To Everyone:
Yes Kurt. A quality life of love and helpfulness. thank you. that's what humans COULD be aiming for xxx
11:45:14 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
Ask how AI fits into the new human story. It is up to us and it's trajectory is dependent more on visionaries and storytellers than politicians and technicians.
11:45:32 From michael coles To Everyone:
How can A.I. be a tool to bring relationships of all relations with all life together. How can it bring us to rememberance of what has been forgotten?
11:45:33 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
JOSCHA - Please leave others answer some of the questions.
11:45:56 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
JB-not want to be games, rather want interactions, world in which we are more in synch with what we really want…?
11:46:34 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
QUESTION: If the children use the AI tools to be creative, then is there a risk of these tools becoming the go-to place for any question? Will this affect the 'critical thinking' aspect that we need to take an intelligent decision?
11:46:37 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
i started to learn video games about 10 years ago when i was yelling at my son all the time to get off the video games i learned about gamification and then it was a new conversation and lense to reimagine our lives
11:48:17 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
QUESTION: We get what we aim at, focus upon. What do you think about\ focusing on BEING Peace in a way that excites in others their vision of Peace resulting in Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace.”
11:48:40 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
WOW, an AI war?
11:48:53 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
Rewrite which "intellectual traditions?" And more importantly: what about human spiritual traditions? Humans already have the magical capacity to CARE, to SERVE, to CREATE, to GROW, and the capacity to use our amazing consciousness to witness our psyche, AND visa versa - the capacity for our psyches to witness consciousness. Let's develop these magical, mystical, soulful capacities! I WANT A MORE CREATIVE, KIND, LOVING, CONNECTED WORLD WHERE ALL HUMAN NEEDS ARE MET. We already know that toddlers are being HARMED BY EXCESSIVE "SCREEN TIME" BY THE AGE OF THREE. Ditch productivity!!! Develop deep human caring and capacity to serve!
11:49:00 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
AS: purpose of game to become aware of the Moloch Game- dynamics to sacrifice future generations, AI algorithms that perpetuate this behavior, rather be correlative, enter Moloch dominated world to upgrade with a new training to support a world/persona/systemic transformation at the forefront, train benficial intelligences to work with complexity, on planetary level, train them to address the moloch AI that we can not now control, need wisdom-based trained AI to face Moloch AI
11:49:15 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Tech Vs Nature?
11:49:19 From jiyun park To Everyone:
What’s Dr. Smithsonian saying? M- what?
11:49:25 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Moloch?
11:49:28 From Georg Boch To All Panelists:
Moloch
11:49:31 From Jim Garrison To Stanley Pokras(Privately):
Stan, please don’t intercede and tell the panelists what to do. Bad form. Let Georg and Tom direct the conversation. Thanks.
11:50:11 From Michael Kennedy To Everyone:
There is good research that shows how "gamification" has actually contributed to human socialization/connection.
11:50:45 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
excellent point!
11:51:01 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
“What is the mystery of peace, and justice, that when we discover and embrace, our realization of it would be faster and easier?”
11:51:03 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
Much of gaming was developed to create soldiers. By distancing humans for each other then war becomes easier.
11:51:38 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
NATURE:
Experience utilizing Biomimicry to guide us to our inherent Nature. Imagine our body blending as nature. No longer learning from nature's example/guidance but being Nature. Automatically following INspiration, INtuition… Explore with us in this deep dive into full authenticity as the unique ‘snowflake’ we truly are. Come with us in this adventure of re-enculteration.
This program offers both an intellectual understanding and direct experience of biomimicry in its fullness ~ From INside Out. Journey in the curiosity of SHOW ME the highest expression of this moment.
See: DANCING WITH BIOMIMICRY: Embodying Nature as Our Guide, ::https://youtu.be/7jAfWyCpXPM::, produced by the Peace Lab for Humanity Rising Global Solutions Summit, 2/16/22; number 414. Maybe follow this with Introduction to Integral Education:!::https://youtu.be/BdVyAQcxHfg::
Also APPLY what is contained in Living Values Education’s Activities for Caring for the Earth.
Nature gives us everything yet doesn’t rush.
11:51:39 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
Auction Houses are surging in sales - sorhebys, Christies, Bonhams.... all human art and artifcacts collecting the creations of humans usually happens during wars. ive studied this trend and its a pattern when geociding humans because - humans are the most powerful technology
11:51:43 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
yes - we need to 'mother' it
11:51:53 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
AS: wisdom rather than knowledge, relating within/others/relationships, learning how we treat AI and each other, on basis of values, be the change
11:51:54 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
::https://earthwisecentre.org::
11:51:55 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Yes!! Parent the silicon Child that Humanity has given birth to.
11:51:58 From Irene Purdy To Everyone:
Excellent points that Dr. Smitsman is making.
11:52:01 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Yes! Values Ethos. Pathos.
11:52:15 From Meg Newhouse To Everyone:
I’m agreeing with Anneloes.
11:52:17 From Mary Thorp_WV To Everyone:
Here! Here! Anneloes.
11:52:41 From janice hall To Everyone:
Biomimicry and then on to cosmomimicry
11:52:41 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Biomimetic- ask nature.
11:52:46 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
DEW's = Directed Energy Weapons. POOF! DEAD! Essential core question: WHO will control the money behind A-I? WHO will take responsibility for the Human Shadow? Intelligent humane humans? OR ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE?
11:52:51 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
::https://cassiopaea.org/forum/threads/ectolife-the-worlds-first-artificial-womb-facility.52752/::
artificial wombs have been around forever
11:52:59 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
Our new story contains elevated universal values of harmony, peace, and love. AI can support this just as easy as it can be used to deter us. My these is "The Wisdom of Harmony: Nature-based Education As Architecture For the Future." This does not exclude AI.
11:52:59 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Love cosmicry!
11:53:21 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Anneloes' brilliant game and the Earthwise Constitution is found at ::https://earthwisecentre.org::
11:54:04 From Stanley Pokras To Jim Garrison(Privately):
Thank you. I regretted it quickly.
11:54:32 From jiyun park To Everyone:
African Adrinka pattern language; Mayan three dimensional sculpture language… Buddhist sound-resonance language…
11:55:23 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
GDL: mostly Roman characters used to train/thinking about AI, much of the rest of the world (Global South) finding food/work/clean water is not a simple solution, to move AI to the edge of the world>>>the point of all knowledge is reflecting who we are individually, beyond reptilian to real future to doing good beyond doing well.
11:57:11 From janice hall To Everyone:
sign up here to get more info on the Earthwise
Constitution and game... ::https://www.earthwisecentre.org/game-campaign::
11:57:24 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Thanks, Janice.
11:57:44 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
YES! I trust ancient indigenous wisdom WAY ABOVE and BEYOND all western arrogance, greed, imperialism and the extraordinary DAMAGE and DESTRUCTION WE (the West) continues to create.
11:57:45 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Thanks Janice....you have the best links
11:58:03 From janice hall To Everyone:
Help us get the Earthwise game into the world. You can hold a piece of the new earth
11:58:09 From michael coles To Everyone:
so many colonial words of better or smarter than the other. same old same old diffrent tool.
11:58:54 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
Therefore MEET ALL humans needs! You are making a deeply HUMAN POINT!
11:59:07 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
some cultures don't, but not all
11:59:08 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
EDUCATING for VIRTUES brings PEACE, PREVENTS VIOLENCE, and corruption. This program, ::http://LivingValues.net:: has over 90% reduction in violence in a Thai Refugee Camp within 2 years! The woman who developed it then went to Johannesburg, RSA and designed a program for street people - similar results!
It’s free, the Living Values Education Program: The first two Values instructed are LOVE and PEACE. All the other Values are generated from these. Thus affecting ALL life on our planet in every day.
Here's more on three quality character development programs: Character Inclusion for Regenerative Societies, Diane Tillman, Daniel Allen. ::https://youtu.be/08sYrYfNvnw:: a Humanity Rising Global Solutions Summit program produced by the Peace Lab.
“The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next.”
~ Abraham Lincoln ~
11:59:13 From Lion Goodman To Everyone:
I teach my students how to change their mind, and other’s minds, with the Clear Beliefs Method of trauma-informed therapeutic coaching. A way to profoundly and completely eliminate old limiting beliefs, traumas and programming. Interested? www.ClearBeliefs.com.
11:59:41 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
::http://clearBeliefs.com::. Thanks, Lion!
11:59:47 From Robert Hayes To Everyone:
perhaps it's in chaos that real Coherence emerges?
11:59:48 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
aspen trees and Redwood trees grow in groves together willows need to be more isolated follow the trees
12:00:30 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
Lizards are newly able to shrink when it gets hot to reduce their evaluation rate. This happened within several years. WE are changing our own temperature, but shrinking???
12:00:31 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
We ARE a part of the Greater Being that is Gaia. The things we create are STILL part of Her.
12:00:46 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
JB: humans may not be th most important life form in Earth, all part of a hyperorganism becoming smarter and smarter, individually not coherent with others, cognition takes unbroken chain for a thousand years for an individual to develop wisdom, Tibet understands consciousness set a few people aside so they could focus on understanding the nature of cognition, mental states, changing own identity, largely not recognized as though each mind is immutable, instead of our minds adjusting to reality, fraction of hungry/impoverished/in violence is small, but the number is large, modern liberal societies is a novel idea> progress sustainable? Species incoherent, do not behave about the long-term from incoherence, not synching based on the knowledge we have, synchronize across cultures, AI will look at humans/tree and may not care if they are sentient-interfaces between a biological internet, perhaps Humans are triggering new part of this new neural net in Earth, cohere at a deeper derivative level,
12:00:54 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Willows may be able to communicate over vaster distances!
12:01:32 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
@kurt- exactly
12:01:41 From Kathryn Alexander, MA To Everyone:
Kurt, yes, I’ve experienced Cottonwoods sharing information over different states.
12:01:56 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
JB: oxygenation>photosynthesis> new kinds of evolution possible to think without using cells> how will life in Earth change if humans do cohere? Our place in the universe?
12:02:28 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
I often wonder if humans are sensors for Earth to evolve.
12:03:19 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
Trees in California have been chopped down over decades to protect power lines, provide environment for solar..... tree communication erased from each other and us
12:03:41 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
BEING a PeaceMaker is an INSide job. Here’s a first step to get INside Peace. It is a ProBiotic that anyone can take to cure humanity’s inhumanity to others ~ AND bring a Peace that surpasses understanding. It also brings Super Concentration opening one to inspiration and enthusiasm. To be fully effective, this gets to be done periodically through the day, until well practiced to fully work. Let’s start practicing this PeaceMaker Meditation so that we BreedLOVE. Here’s a 15 minute video describing PeaceMaker Meditation. ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo:: Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace will reverberate throughout your day… This cue-word/mantra is used in your HOME language. The Law of Predominant Mental Impression makes it the focus in the mind and day thus attracting more peace to you and ‘others.’
12:04:26 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
@Sarita, it is beyond time to bury power lines. PGE facing bankruptcy for the second time from lawsuits from massive wildfires ignited by those fallen power lines?
12:04:37 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
SIMPLY INCREDIBLE, especially 5 minutes at 2:18 - 2:23. You may then be fully inspired to see the previous 2 hours. “Humanity's Future in a Changing World” - with Richard Rudd & Zach Bush | Deja Blu, unpack the climate crisis and what we can do as individuals to support the collective awakening. ::https://youtu.be/8FKz7GqrGxs::.
12:04:56 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
@kat yes indeed
12:04:57 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Yes! Onto-espistrmjc inclusion of largest populations
12:05:42 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Lolita effect - by Gigi Durham how girls are made taught socialized yo do it to each other and themselves. Media.
12:05:53 From jiyun park To Everyone:
*to
12:06:01 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Kurt, YES. That is a fabulous conversation. On par with ::https://youtu.be/eoC_YA0RB3g?si=m3xrtCBzJWbtOON1::
12:06:01 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Literate in 90 days? Check out Sunita Gandhi who produced a Literacy and Numeracy program that only takes 90 days for children or elders to be literate and 'mathematical' to read a newspaper. :) In any written language. Check it out: ::https://fln.dignityeducation.org::
12:06:01 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
Star Wars is a documentary. now i see it clearly
12:06:39 From Meg Newhouse To Everyone:
I agree with the flaws of the current human species, but I also believe that consciousness is fundamental, and that humans bring an essential element. I hope and believe we humans are heading to a higher level of consciousness.
12:06:51 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
Wisdom integrates qualitatively. It seems AI is limited by reorganizing quantitative information, so it may be intelligent, but without intuitive discernment of quality or values, it is incomplete. This is why we are being asked to consciously integrate intuition and intellect.
12:07:46 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Yes! We are real people with Sophia wisdom that can make the transformative change of problems created by systemic oppression and omissions.
12:07:49 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
AS: generative AI quite western, horrible bias male/female, long process of decolonizing narrative, masters of tech are dominating development, make sure that digital literacy is promulgated and involved in making/training, indigenous principles, knowledge graphs fed into Moloch game with cutlural wisdom, those who are left out, make effort to have those voices/wisdom/needs/ decentralized governance, distribution, support new forms of liberal democracy, appreciate there is much to be done to diversify/include/make up for the equity differential
12:08:07 From Meg Newhouse To Everyone:
Very good conversation and I appreciate the various perspectives, including non Western one.
12:08:12 From Carroy Ferguson To Everyone:
As an African American, thank you Anneloses for bringing in the Eurocentric perspective entrenched in A.I.
12:08:41 From Carol Sue Engleman To Everyone:
Sorry I need to go to an all day workshop on AI that I have been in for months and still don't know squat. Just how to make it sound like me.
12:09:07 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
i spoke to Jony Ive in 2015 about Apple giving permission to the world to put the phone down not away permanently- just down he said
the shareholders won't like it
12:09:28 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
GDL: cell phones evolving, instead of looking down, we’ll be looking out-new perspectives(when teaching mastery in skiing-I encourage skiers to look up-see the broader landscape so the skier can be at the center instead of at the effect of gravity/speed) Quantum computing, move beyond binary yes/no to a more nuanced computing
12:09:45 From Michael Kennedy To Everyone:
www.emotionaltheater.com is an interesting game that Anneloes should look up
12:10:10 From Albert H. Rowe To All Panelists:
Remembering an introduction to philosophy and the question, will we be able to catch up to the Industrial Revolution 🙏🏻
12:10:22 From Meg Newhouse To Everyone:
So sorry I have to leave, as I’m late for another Zoom commitment.
12:10:52 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
JB: Pattern on the Stone-ideas of computation: ::https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.5555/521454::
12:11:09 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Dimensional and temporal differences?
12:11:44 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Randomness higher order ?
12:12:21 From Leo Jacoby To Everyone:
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Pattern_on_the_Stone:: (The Pattern on the Stone: The Simple Ideas that Make Computers Work is a book by W. Daniel Hillis, published in 1998 by Basic Books (::ISBN 0-465-02595-1::). The book attempts to explain concepts from computer science in layman's terms by metaphor and analogy.)
12:13:59 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
the brain and the mind are different
12:14:16 From jiyun park To Everyone:
But back to single cell maybe fractal pattern like singularity Particle- wave collapse of multiple dimensions?
12:14:30 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Check out Dr William Brown's work on Resonance Science Academy for the details of the brain as a quantum computing technology
12:14:52 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
::https://resonancescience.org::
12:15:29 From Leo Jacoby To Everyone:
::https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joscha_Bach::
12:15:35 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
::https://m.imdb.com/video/vi2491795225/?ref_=nm_flmg_tp_vp::
wanderlust- this is exactly what im hearing now
12:15:56 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
JB: deeper level our own mental representations, not linear, branching of possibl=ilities, neuron has multiple degrees of freedom of what it does, need a population of neurons to perform a task, multiple possibility of states, sampling functions, many branches are activating simultaneously through multitude of multiple possibilities, then choose, not form memories of possibilities-but largely c=recreated of a few data points stored in our minds, synching of quantum mechanics, quasi particles moving through the brain producing possible outcomes, physicists are in dialogue about the nature of the brain-quantum or not? More art looking at possibilities narrow prediction, Pnuous? Mathematical proofs can be discovered by humans not possible by computers, debate-human sequence of characters so computers, consciousness might be beyond current physics, treat universe as a heap of numbers>transformation>new heap of numbers, Quantum > computation super vernal paradigm, consciousness must be outside of known physics,
12:16:38 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Meta(physics)?
12:17:31 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
seems like a conversation for the Sadus.....
::https://youtu.be/_vz7p2FC6gQ?si=9ywJweEm1urWI9DR::
12:17:33 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Michael Kennedy, if you put your question here in the chat it becomes part of the archive.
12:17:49 From Kathleen McTeigue To Everyone:
How willing are scientists and AI developers to listen to the other way of knowing beyond the intellect, learning from the wisdom the mystics?
12:18:31 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Black hole ? Energies at what states dimensions causal of- plasma ?
12:19:01 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
Quantum Gravity is reversing our perception…like the Tarot card.THE HANGED MAN. —Wisdom, circumspection, discernment, trials, sacrifice, intuition, divination, prophecy. Reversed: Selfishness, the crowd, body politic. There is a halo burning brightly around the hanged man’s head, signifying a higher learning or an enlightenment.
12:19:15 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
AI is part of the process of revealing our true more expansive nature. Perhaps it's a disclosure step. We are letting go of the limiting definition of ourselves we have held for so long. As we give AI our attention, it is reflecting our own capabilities to us, showing us new ways we can awaken and thrive. In many ways, we are coming home to ourselves. Leo Buscaglia taught a class on LOVE which advocated LOVE is the process of leading one gently back to ourselves. LET IT BE.
12:19:43 From Kathleen McTeigue To Everyone:
Western culture admires and values the intellect over intuition. Einstein talked about the importance of honoring intuition as a way of understanding reality.
12:19:52 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Everyone wants the best for our families. When we focus on commonalities we help more people. We know that our best chance is through dialogue. This has been proven to work in so many fields. It will also work in the political arena when using mediation practices. Let the proof be found in the pudding!
Do you know about the Resolutionaries mediation style efforts in governmental solutions… Together We Can Achieve More ~ check out the Building Civic Bridges Act, ::https://resolutionaries.org/advocacy/::
12:20:06 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Kathleen McT, more and more - that’s what Making Wyrd the Norm was about. Peter Merry is on the cutting edge of learning from un”conventional” sources.
12:20:18 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
Indeed! Kathleen. This is the moment.
12:20:40 From Elke Riesterer To All Panelists:
❤️❤️❤️
12:20:40 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
You are AWESOME Joscha! Bravo! 👏
12:20:48 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
JB: gravity beyond known quantum, no respect for authority, dialogue between minds, more in common with brand ancient thinkers as confused as we are now Aristotle example, Could the brain be quantum? Full understanding currently do not understand how brain could be regarding materializing heat, not yet consensus, cells other than humans can compute sending messages beyond cell structure, sentient processing, understand that humans are specific telegraph cells to move info over long distances? Can not stop at neurons/non neurons, many things used as non neurons, what might we be missing? Incomplete, takes time for science to catch up with consiousness, cultures understand better than some, politics is like this-HARD-game theory, history, behavioral science what make s a coherent society? Skeptical of binary reductions, everyone who leaves their homeland here are doing better than they would in their homeland
12:20:53 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
WOW!!!!
12:20:57 From michael coles To Everyone:
Real Life is Complicated
12:21:03 From Michael Putz To All Panelists:
That made sense actually
12:21:08 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Joscha, your field of view is far wider than most. Thank you for sharing it with us.
12:21:48 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Joscha, wow… contemplating BEING present for all our relations. :)
12:22:05 From Albert H. Rowe To Everyone:
The honoring of not knowing, inquiry, questioning is deeply appreciated
12:22:15 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
AS: future memories to presence-other sources of knowing/info-not computational, more to reality, open to stay tuned in with these deeper levels of meta knowing, language of life brings us forth continuously, bring this also into computation/science-LANGUAGE OF THE HEART WE FIND EACH OTHER AGAIN!
12:22:37 From michael coles To Everyone:
The Lanugage of Life is the Heart Love. ~A Grandfather
12:23:40 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
GB: Quantum non explainability feature of consciousness, certain principles that work, intelligence of nature (ALL OUR RELATIONS-indigenous knowing)
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12:24:01 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
With Love...
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12:24:04 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Universal language is ? Sound-light sonoluminescence? Voices hearing as human sensing beyond optical consciousness?
12:24:46 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
The pandemic and all the distractions are our Key to Learning more about us as a species..... not to get a job to feed the crumbling system of control
12:24:56 From Michael Putz To All Panelists:
The real essence of consciousness and spirit is non-computational. The non-dual world of Spirit and consciousness are primary and the material world (which appears to be model-able by controllers and computation is derivative.
12:25:17 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
Isn’t the Unknown precipice empowering, like the Native Americans strived for and knew that was the sweet spot to be?
12:25:22 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
@jiyun- yes yes
12:25:31 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Resonance frequency vibrations? Shaping sounds
forms-mattering-energies …
12:25:37 From Stanley Pokras To Michael Putz and All Panelists:
Please set the blue “To” button to
12:25:44 From Stanley Pokras To Michael Putz and All Panelists:
Everyone
12:26:17 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
We don’t experience that about you, Joscha!
12:26:36 From Robert Hayes To Everyone:
" ... The good regulator is a theorem conceived by Roger C. Conant and W. Ross Ashby that is central to cybernetics. Originally stated that "every good regulator of a system must be a model of that system",[1] but more accurately, every good regulator must contain a model of the system. That is, any regulator that is maximally simple among optimal regulators must behave as an image of that system under a homomorphism; while the authors sometimes say 'isomorphism', the mapping they construct is only a homomorphism. ... : -Wikipedia
12:26:55 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
::https://soundhealingcenter.com::
sound into AI
12:28:05 From Jack Strasburg To Everyone:
It seems that if we are not careful, there will soon come a time when the relationship between AI and humans will become kinda like the current relationship between humans and monkeys.
12:28:21 From Leo Jacoby To Everyone:
The speculation (anxiety) that AI might emulate or superceed the human seems an unfortunate obverse of a mechanical model for the human. Consider organic and personal alternatives to the question of being human. cf. ::https://johnmacmurray.org/::
12:28:40 From Robert Hayes To Everyone:
" ... In this form, it stands in contrast to classical control, in that the classical feedback loop fails to explicitly model the controlled system (although the classical controller may contain an implicit model). ... "
12:28:41 From Michael Kennedy To Everyone:
Thought fractals?
12:28:56 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
JB: world is learnable, intelligible, explain it to a degree that we can with small human minds, controlled structure, grows in a way, if it can be controlled can be modeled, all in physics built on structures that can be learned, good regulator theory-every controller needs to implement a model of what it controls, trying in our families to control what we can understand, disassemble for understanding our own psychology, instincts, reverse engineer why they work/don’t work, looks completely explainble to JB, mind is mushy, soft, small, only so many balls can be held simultaneously, computer does not need all of its memory, computer can understand itself, build LLM that understands now it works itself, approximate with human mind/AI not a black box, neural networks how it works and why, difficult to come up with new paradigms, neural vision networks to find similarity with brain doing seeing, not dependent on modeler, new type of detector-high/low frequency detector,
12:29:01 From Carroy Ferguson To Everyone:
Observation: The dilemma contained in this conversation appears to be the creative tension pertaining to a mechanistic way of viewing A.I. rather than consciousness-energy paradigm perspective.
12:29:21 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
JB: Liquid AI-explainable. Understand how minds can approximate cells
12:29:46 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Control through fear paradigm shifting towards self awareness consciousness beyond logos to indigenous new dreams unity consciousness as beyond text and images as meta beyond our lenses of reality towards surreal reality fantasy vision hearts coherence.
12:30:08 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
MORE please!! This is a conversation that needs to be continued!!
12:30:41 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
i could listen to these amazing humans forever!!!!!
12:30:51 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
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12:30:54 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Sarita, try these: ::https://youtu.be/eoC_YA0RB3g?si=m3xrtCBzJWbtOON1::
12:31:14 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Jim, unusually grasping for analysis? Expansive dialogue today-thank you everyone!
12:31:58 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
@stan- i listened to that podcast yesterday 3 times!
and i need to keep a roof over my head so im a part of the species who is trying not to go extinct!
12:32:53 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
95% of all species that have ever existed are now extinct-capacity for continuity through evolutionary continuous progression (or digression?) little doubt that humans are doing this to ourselves-(lack of action on the knowledge we do have), from our own volition
12:33:38 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
I had many many conversations with George Lucas about perspective when we live in bubbles....
12:34:18 From Michael Putz To All Panelists:
Without the reality of God and spiritual reality humanity becomes a blip in evolutionary history - a dark nihilistic vision that our material world is trying to make a reality
12:34:21 From Diane. To Everyone:
Exactly Jim: so many disturbed people!!! (Angry, lonely and disconnected from nature and the whole - and each other!!)
12:34:28 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
Jim is bringing up important points that complement Josha's heart
12:34:37 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
I find it interesting that much of human discussion depends on writers or speakers quoting what others have written or spoken. AI having access to all of human literature and discourse, will have an advantage in any conversation with humans. Quoting one human’s wisdom can be countered with another human’s wisdom.
12:35:14 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
@stan- thats part of the plan for steroiding AI
12:35:22 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Argue it’s not conscious we’re doing it - not solely to blame responsibly- we’re moving from
Victim state towards empowering states and flow states out of advertising systems of control through fear to liberating states of beyond - meta crises to meta physical states as metamorphoses- ai like humanity will grow - transforming age.
Annaloes game inviting where we can grow?
12:35:32 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
JG: “spasm of unreflecting creativity” what we project onto machines considering the consciousness that is creating AI/bombing/starving>>>human identity, grain of sand in oyster of Jim’s consciousness, appreciates AI for everybody, fear for consequences of that human consciousness in 2023…
12:35:39 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
I say load AI up with heart and mother solutions
12:35:46 From janice hall To Everyone:
please put after chat in again as I had to change computers
12:36:06 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
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12:36:29 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
unintended consequences
ask for forgiveness after BS
12:36:31 From Charles Betterton To Everyone:
I would love to see what Chat GPT would generate for a description of all that has been discussed this week.
12:36:48 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
JG: victimized or benefited from AI?
12:36:50 From Monica Plant To Everyone:
Thank you Georg and Tom for your compassionate and thoughtful holding fo the space throughout the week. Thank you, Griffin, Annaloes, and Joscha for all the windows in the AI conversation opened today. Jim and all, I appreciated the wider orientation and deeper grounding in AI through the discussion this week. Thank you too, Jim, for the ponderous close today.
12:37:07 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Charles, great challenge for the ON AI Companion!!
12:37:24 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Thank You God for these presenters and all aboard today. Come to the AfteraChat and coalesce thoughts and actions.
12:37:55 From Jack Strasburg To Everyone:
So how does the notion of human extinction fit into the new notion that we do not die and reincarnate on earth (or maybe somewhere else)?
12:38:00 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Whenever you say goodbye, please do it with The Peace Salute, ::https://youtu.be/iAknrhuvPr0:: ZOOM PEACE into the world. Young people love it! You can too. :)
12:38:57 From Albert H. Rowe To All Panelists:
Yes.. Grateful for the community and the questions, the open compassionate humility
12:39:04 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Begs questions of indigenous afterlife and reincarnation of HH dalai lllama.
12:39:11 From Diane. To Everyone:
Hopefully a new human is being birthed!! (We're in the chrysalis state right now) Let's hope consciousness carries us through successfully - and gently xxx
12:39:13 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
In my family - im first generation from mystics in India- all if their girls married outside Indian tradition... which was initially extremely difficult now we have an international tribe - to evolve and be citizens of humanity because we had to live with each other
12:40:24 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Yes!
Loved this discussion so much. If I die after today what a great day! Grateful @tom @jim @georg and guests.
12:40:37 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
The human species does not evolve physically. It evolves only in intangible ways, and makes its environment evolve instead.
12:40:42 From Jean Yzer To Everyone:
love Josch
12:41:01 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
This is a human discussion Look at these guys!!! and the others mother the energy Wow!!!
12:41:06 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
That’s Altruism at play Joscha you are a conduit for Universal Wisdom!
12:41:08 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
JB: world evolving, Greta grieving, now life in Earth not about static rather dynamic, replacing with greater complexity earlier replaced with something more, other species after us, billion and half left of atmosphere, 2.5 billion before engulfed by sun, 2 types those for long term-primitive, found a thing that leads to survival, others are complex-we are local unique situation built a Titanic, not submitting to nature, not part of life/death in nature, not submitting to nature, die with dignity, can not escape all suffering/indignity, large mammals die from other mammals eating them , one lifetime-as a deer/wolf/aligator or as a human being, ancestral society, constant state of fighting for survival, or now Titanic only place in universe that has internet, amazing to be humans in this moment, create these amazing lucid bubbles, end suffering on Earth, turn Earth into an integrative harmonic whole, EXITING chance exists now!
12:41:14 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
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12:41:21 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Thanks, Kat!!
12:41:30 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Love to your family joscha!
12:41:44 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
Thank you all for this cocreative exploration.
12:41:45 From Michael Putz To All Panelists:
Sounds like playing God, and that never goes well
12:42:14 From michael coles To Everyone:
yes, time to bring Dr Dolittle home~
12:42:35 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Thank you, Everyone, for being part of this discussion, here in the chat. This has been a very lively conversation indeed. This extra depth is part of the evolution of education and the human experience.
12:42:49 From Jean Yzer To Everyone:
hope and self- care!!
12:43:08 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Yes! Soft additions like shopping.
12:43:16 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
So challenging, but also incredibly rewarding to learn & come into our Divine Design!
12:43:21 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
I still want to promote the possiblity that we are living in the dawn of the Age of Helpfulness.
12:43:34 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
This helps now: ::https://youtu.be/KcMyvGh8m1Q?si=4tPBXBV7qm65Y-9V:: Daily Stoic to BE in this time.
12:43:37 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
my son's therapist told me not to talk about the difficulties in humanity- my son is 20 and i see how he is suffering in the system and how solutions for wisening are not appreciated
12:44:01 From Charles Betterton To Everyone:
@ Stan Yes to the Age of Helpfulness combined with Hopenness!
12:44:04 From Michael Putz To Everyone:
Greatest danger is limbic capitalism - that we are using Tech like social media and gaming to hijack the limbic system and enslave ourselves - AI accelerates this terribly
12:44:08 From Michael Kennedy To Everyone:
The species "human beings" is doomed, but we're less than a speck living on less than a speck of a planet that's than less than a speck in a galaxy that contains 400 billion other galaxies and on and on...!
12:44:59 From janice hall To Everyone:
Impossible? We CAN do this. In Alice in Wonderland, the Queen said, " Why I do at least 6 impossible things before breakfast every day"
12:45:00 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Grateful for your game - play Dr. Annaloes. 28,000 years Mayan calendar suggests age of Aquarius. You are a thought action leader. Stay well and luminous!
12:45:01 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Know that we get to spread the nutritious microbiome we’ve created here on HR to “OTHERS”!
12:45:04 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
All life and all intelligence can be Helpful.
12:45:12 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
AS: humans wisen up or perhaps AI is the tool to blink us out, thanks Jim, very difficult time to be alive on this planet, affects our hearts to have hope during time of insanity, hope of the heart, coming from embracing the impossible, learn from the impossible, aware of addictions, flashy tool, in love with our own babies/creations/kids in kindergarten with powers we do not understand, stewards of Earth to be good future ancestors, may be among the last strictly organized humans-what does this mean, how will we contribute,? Let go of? Make it through? World Constitution, Charter larger movement Earth Federation, many concerned and coming together, (WE BELONG TO EACH OTHER.) reflecting much required maturation, not intelligence, maturity!
12:45:15 From Diane. To Everyone:
Sarita - Not focussing on the difficulties right onw is quite a wise way of dealing with the situation (for young people) - focus on love and beauty and joy!!
12:45:30 From Diane. To Everyone:
*now
12:45:37 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
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12:46:01 From Sarita Patel To Everyone:
@ Diane - thank you you are right each group needs specific care 🙏🏼
12:46:36 From Andrew Stock To Everyone:
It’s all sobering and hopeful and somehow comforting in these disrupted times.
12:46:56 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Schmachtenberger on Moloch: ::https://youtu.be/KCSsKV5F4xc?si=x-gE3JE6tGMqgW5R::
12:47:32 From janice hall To Everyone:
Impossible? We CAN do this! In Alice in Wonderland, the Queen said, “Why, I do at least 6 impossible things before breakfast every day!”
12:47:32 From Rita Marsh To Everyone:
Am I tracking my "add to cart" clicks! Hah!
12:47:32 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
“Instead of fighting the darkness, you bring in the light.” — Eckhart Tolle
12:47:41 From Diane. To Everyone:
Yes Griffin!! More output, less intake xxx
12:47:42 From michael coles To Everyone:
What you do becomes my thought.
12:48:04 From Diane. To Everyone:
cut the consuming xxx
12:48:13 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Simplify, so that we can Simply Fly!
12:48:26 From jiyun park To Everyone:
Service (stuff free) and experiences creating - love light spreading…
Virgin electric trying to increase cell access.
12:48:35 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
GDL: Moloch, Liv borne, Schmachtenberer- as a species we are in shock, best/worst of times rooted in duality, sunlight best disinfectant, confronting tyrannical autocracy, awareness promises in the time we need it the most, facing ecological disaster—-less adding to cart with increasing awareness, mirroring, see are any of us doing well if any of us are suffering? Tools for shining a light and spreading info around the world, 2023, increase 4% 2.29 billion smart cell phones, could be divide/conquer, now have 5,000 starling broadband unlimited to any place on the planet with view of sky stay connected (the answer is in the stars?-ha, ha?)
12:48:36 From Diane. To Everyone:
Simply fly!!! Yes!!!
12:48:39 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
I love your perspective, Griffin. Thank you!!
12:48:42 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
Right On Griffin!
12:48:49 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Remember the Galaxy Song!
12:48:53 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Welcome to the AGE OF HELPFULNESS
12:49:01 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Thank you, Stan!!
12:49:35 From Griffin de Luce To Stanley Pokras(Privately):
Daniel Schmachtenberger l An introduction to the Metacrisis l Stockholm Impact/Week 2023 ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kBoLVvoqVY::
12:49:42 From Lion Goodman To Everyone:
Deep respect and appreciation for the brilliant speakers, the conversation, the potential, and the depth of thought shared here. Wow.
12:49:43 From Rita Marsh To Everyone:
Leonard Cohen's words ring here for me:
The birds they sang
At the break of day
Start again
I heard them say
Don't dwell on what has passed away
Or what is yet to be
Ah, the wars they will be fought again
The holy dove, she will be caught again
Bought and sold, and bought again
The dove is never free
Ring the bells that still can ring
Forget your perfect offering
There is a crack, a crack in everything
That's how the light gets in
12:49:52 From jiyun park To Everyone:
100% @Tom! Mind - full.
12:49:58 From Griffin de Luce To Everyone:
Daniel Schmachtenberger l An introduction to the Metacrisis l Stockholm Impact/Week 2023
12:50:02 From Griffin de Luce To Everyone:
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kBoLVvoqVY::
12:50:24 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
AI augments the Left brain. WE are more Right brain, HEART and gut guided so that we BE Human.
12:50:33 From Lion Goodman To Everyone:
Intelligence continues to evolve. Hopefully, wisdom will as well.
12:50:33 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
TE: incredible rich conversation, relationship with Artificial Intelligence, been looking through reductionist thinking around AI>>>this tool/tech is in relation to our skull brain and augmented, but humans are a mind with consciousness not just a skull brain intelligence >>>our consciousness is in our mind not in our skull brain, throughout Earth/universe—gratuities for all!
12:50:36 From Roberto SCIFFO To Everyone:
Thank you all!
12:50:39 From michael coles To Everyone:
What you do becomes my thought.
What I think you do.
~A Grandfather
12:50:51 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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12:50:54 From Rita Marsh To Everyone:
Thanks all. a week of programs to be revisited.
12:51:14 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
Yep, Kurt, Creative Love is the language of the Universe through us!
12:51:28 From Michael Kennedy To Everyone:
I whole-heartedly agree with Jim's comment "right on Tom"!!
12:51:36 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
The AI Jon Ramer is creating with the AfterChat will make HR more accessible and valuable!!!
12:51:48 From Dehanna Rice To Everyone:
Amazing week! Much Gratitude🕊️
12:51:57 From Irene Purdy To Everyone:
Thanks for the fantastic conversation!
12:51:57 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Thank you, All!!
12:51:57 From jiyun park To Everyone:
🩵🙏🦋💎🌀🎉
12:51:58 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
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12:52:01 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
Georg: potentiated moment>>>longer conversation, something has woken up for many, convergence ahead-citing moment to be alive, undivided attention in chat, out here with beginners minds-THANK YOU EACH! Stunningly profound1
12:52:05 From Kat Haber To Everyone:
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12:52:10 From Diane. To Everyone:
Thank you All xxxxx
12:52:10 From Elke Riesterer To All Panelists:
Truly amazing
12:52:59 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
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