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11:02:14 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Bright blessings, Everyone! Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:05:13 From Mary Thorp_WV To Everyone:
“Almost” gods is the operative here, Jim.
11:05:59 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
Yes, Mary! Great catch! ALMOST is the troubling word here!
11:06:21 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Jim you are so eloquent and articulate and deeply intelligent.
11:07:20 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
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Welcome to Humanity Rising
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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11:07:37 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Everyone, please include Everyone here in the chat!
11:07:52 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
Welcome!
11:08:00 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Please preface your questions with the word in caps. ie. QUESTION: How can Jim find your question most easily?
11:10:49 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Good morning, Bart!
11:11:05 From diana Winhill To Everyone:
QUESTION: Are you going to explain the difference between Open Source and Closed source AI?? Please😊
11:11:40 From Tom Eddington To All Panelists:
Thanks for your question Diana. Yes, we will be answering that question.
11:12:09 From Bart de Witte To All Panelists:
Good evening Shannon! ;-)
11:12:33 From Monica Plant To All Panelists:
Yes! to question above; also, could someone (Stanley?) please let me know how to access yesterday’s conversation? I regret having missed it.
11:12:38 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Diana, great question!
11:15:29 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
Jim, your eloquent wisdom bring tears of deep appreciation, sorrow, and concern to my heart and eyes. When Google's A-I expert steps down with a global warning, it's a HUGE HUMANITARIAN WARNING! OUR HOME IS ALREADY ON FIRE! Why would any sane human trust BIG TECH? Most urgent FACT is this: A-I is one huge step towards TRANSHUMANISM! WAKE UP EVERYONE!!! World Economic Forum leader (insane Claus Schwab states with a smirk on his face) "YOU WILL OWN NOTHING AND BE HAPPY! Another alarming warning!!! FOR REAL!
11:15:49 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Open source is following Natures way, no hidden agendas - if it’s useful, anyone can take advantage of it
11:17:06 From Kathleen McTeigue To Everyone:
It seems to me that another code red for humanity is the evolution of consciousness. By going within we can discover the unitive nature of reality and bring that consciousness into the world. When we discover the sacredness of all life, our motivations are transformed.
11:17:57 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
More beer please!!
11:18:12 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
Yes Kathleen! Consciousness is Cause! And everything is better conscious!
11:18:17 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Yes Kathleen McT
11:18:32 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
and Kim
11:19:19 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
Love your humor! Sovereign BEER = BETTER BEER! YES, YES, YES! 😂🤣😎
11:19:50 From maureenedwardson3@gmail.com To Everyone:
Beer and Bread. Now we're good.
11:20:46 From Bart de Witte To All Panelists:
https://opensourceseeds.org/gossi
11:22:19 From Diane. To Everyone:
Seeds - good comparison!! In Spain Monsanto tried to make it illegal to use anything other than their tomato seeds. People were not allowed to share seeds. Luckily loads of people decided to share all their seeds - here (in the UK) too
11:22:42 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Hello Diane…!!!!
11:22:57 From Diane. To Everyone:
😊 xxxxx
11:23:27 From Diane. To Everyone:
Lots of love xxxxx
11:24:19 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
Outstanding simple analogy! From A-Z! Thank you Bart! So appreciating this critically important discussion and all four of your wisdom!
11:25:22 From Diane. To Everyone:
And good example of 'start with healthy happy conscious base practice and - All we Need is Love - again
11:25:36 From Diane. To Everyone:
And yes, we can make money - and then SHARE IT!!!!
11:26:47 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
"Regulatory capture" is a huge problem! Thanks for naming this Daniel! Corporate secrecy, behind closed doors is another horrible evil.
11:27:43 From Michael Putz To All Panelists:
Open AI is very different than Open Source software. The distinction has not been made clear enough. It would be helpful to explain why Open AI went from open to closed AI.
11:29:16 From Michael Putz To All Panelists:
Please help explain why people of goodwill would want ‘Closed’ AI - also the cons of ‘Open AI’ should be discussed to have a balanced discussion
11:32:39 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
All true! Well said: ANOTHER BATTLE! Lets notice how many things in our sacred world have been weaponized" Including language!!! So many institutions have been "captured"!!! CAPTURED? is abuse of power and most often SECRET! Not a fan of secrecy!!!
11:34:02 From Michael Putz To Everyone:
Please explain why people of goodwill would want ‘Closed AI’ - and also cons of ‘Open’ AI. We need balanced discussion that does not default to ‘Open’ is good, and Closed is ‘bad’
11:37:38 From Andrew Stock To Everyone:
Tomorrow’s Library in Sa Francisco holds 279 billion web pages https://craftsmanship.net/tomorrows-library/
11:39:54 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
Many movies have warned us about A-I! Great truth telling analogy Daniel! Yesterday, a lovely young pregnant women and her sweet toddler were killed in Seattle, on I-5, by failed A-I breaking system. I trust my REAL HUMAN MAZDA mechanics infinitely more! Always will! I LOVE AND TRUST MY EXPERT MEN MECHANICS! 🌹🌹🌹
11:40:00 From Connie Baxter Marlow To All Panelists:
Jim: Please replace the Day 1 copy for my forum with the copy I just sent you via email. The incorrect copy is currently online. Thank you!! I will send Day 2 correct copy in another email. Warmly, Connie
11:40:03 From Michael Putz To Everyone:
There is reason to be concerned that Facebook is the champion of ‘Open’AI - they don’t fit well into the bootlegger analogy
11:40:46 From Jim Garrison To Connie Baxter Marlow and All Panelists:
Yes, got your email. Will do.
11:41:22 From Diane. To Everyone:
We need to have a world where we understand that 'There are no secrets'!! They always come out and - if what we do is fine then we don't need secrets!!
11:41:26 From Bart de Witte To All Panelists:
https://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/research/projects/computational-propaganda/
11:42:20 From Diane. To Everyone:
What we do, consciously, must be for the good of the whole!!
11:42:56 From Diane. To Everyone:
Trouble only crops up when money is involved!!
11:44:09 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
Yes Diane! Profits OVER people is a serious problem. "Disaster Capitalism" is an outstanding read!
11:45:11 From Connie Baxter Marlow To All Panelists:
Thanks Jim!! XO
11:46:47 From Connie Baxter Marlow To Everyone:
Yes Diane! That day is coming re no secrets as we access higher frequencies and the Love that we are!
11:47:31 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
Rational thinking, evidence, facts, critical thinking, and human discernment are foundational to HUMAN SOVEREIGNTY! Yes, Daniel! All true. EXCEPT when humans with power have been captured! 😎 DATA COLONIALISM! NO ETHICS!
11:49:53 From Diane. To Everyone:
(Keep having to go away hahaha)
11:50:03 From Diane. To Everyone:
Answering door etc
11:50:18 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Just keep coming back, Diane ;)
11:50:19 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
Public health and tobacco industry???? Seriously insane! George Orwell warned us: "The truth shall pass as double speak, and double speak shall pass as truth." Classic example!
11:51:04 From Bart de Witte To All Panelists:
Paper on BigTobacco and BigTech analogy - https://arxiv.org/pdf/2009.13676.pdf
11:51:11 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
LOVE HIS BEARY BEARY BEARY BEAUTIFUL SHIRT!😂
11:51:26 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
Big tobacco tried to block my United Way funding for the American ❤️ Assn back in the ‘90s . I publicly fought them under great pressure by them. I succeeded in negotiating the largest AHA-UW contract in the country. But it was a nightmare.
11:51:28 From Connie Baxter Marlow To Everyone:
Important to focus on what we are becoming as the the vibratory level increases and we cleanse out our fear-based systems and behaviors and beliefs. Since AI is US, then WE need to do the work of cleansing our shadow and feeding the collective consciousness with high vibration thinking and doing! AI is our great mirror of our light and our shadow!
11:51:44 From Robert Hayes To Everyone:
" Mustafa Suleyman CBE (born August 1984) is a British artificial intelligence researcher and entrepreneur who is the co-founder and former head of applied AI at DeepMind,[1] an artificial intelligence company acquired by Google and now owned by Alphabet. His current venture is Inflection AI. " - Wikipedia
11:52:40 From Diane. To Everyone:
Today: UK 'news' - all children to have chicken pox vaccine. 'They do it in USA and Australia so it's good'. Aaaaaaagggh. They feed our fears!!!
11:53:35 From Michael Putz To Everyone:
What is the date of this talk?
11:55:23 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
This talk is currently LIVE
11:55:38 From Diane. To Everyone:
Connie - great!!!
11:55:43 From Monica Plant To All Panelists:
Stanley, how can we access yesterday’s talk?
11:55:48 From Michael Putz To Everyone:
The recorded video
11:55:53 From Diane. To Everyone:
Was that Mustafa Suleyman?
11:56:02 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
Ubiquity Youtube channel
11:56:07 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Today is November 14, 2023
11:56:15 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
It was the mr. sutskever from OpenAI
11:56:24 From Robert Hayes To Everyone:
who were the two people who were speaking in that video?
11:56:27 From Diane. To Everyone:
Thank you
11:56:28 From Monica Plant To All Panelists:
Thank you
11:56:35 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
It was the mr. sutskever from OpenAI
11:56:46 From Georg Boch To Everyone:
CTO of OpenAI
11:56:54 From Robert Hayes To Everyone:
thx
11:58:35 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
Excellent point! TRUST is a moving entity!!! And, I would ADD, only HUMANS embody TRUST! Never met a machine that is - in essence - trustworthy. Humans use machines, NOT the other way around!!! (Think nuclear disasters!)
11:59:34 From Robert Hayes To Everyone:
" Ilya Sutskever FRS (Hebrew: איליה סוצקבר; Russian: Илья Суцкевер; born 1985/86) is a Russian-born Israeli-Canadian computer scientist working in machine learning, who co-founded and serves as Chief Scientist of OpenAI. " - Wikipedia
11:59:34 From Kim Kerrigan To Everyone:
THANK YOU GENTLEMEN FOR YOUR EXCELLENT PRESENTATION TODAY! 😻
12:00:29 From Diane. To Everyone:
Open AI and a philosophy of secrecy? Weird!!
12:01:14 From Diane. To Everyone:
Brilliant Robert Hayes. Thank you
12:01:49 From Bart de Witte To All Panelists:
Swiss physician, bibliographer, naturalist and alpinist Conrad Gessner’s argument against the printing press was that ordinary people could not handle so much knowledge. (16th Century)
12:02:04 From Bart de Witte To Everyone:
Swiss physician, bibliographer, naturalist and alpinist Conrad Gessner’s argument against the printing press was that ordinary people could not handle so much knowledge. (16th Century)
12:02:12 From Stanley Pokras To Monica Plant and All Panelists:
Here is the OtherNetworks page for yesterday. But send me your email address to receive my daily report of links. https://othernetworks.org/HR!Day802
12:02:21 From Bart de Witte To Everyone:
Paper on BigTobacco and BigTech analogy - https://arxiv.org/pdf/2009.13676.pdf
12:02:37 From Bart de Witte To Everyone:
https://www.oii.ox.ac.uk/research/projects/computational-propaganda/
12:02:37 From Diane. To Everyone:
And if the electricity goes..........
12:04:06 From Diane. To Everyone:
We have to encourage the good stuff!! Let the baddies go -
12:05:02 From Diane. To Everyone:
Ban the word 'fault' - it leads us astray!! Thank goodness I'm not part of the real world!!!
12:08:38 From Bart de Witte To Everyone:
https://www.techzine.eu/news/security/109442/dutch-government-insisted-on-backdoor-in-tetra-system/
12:14:54 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Please come to the AfterChat for direct contact with some of the Open Billions of “BI” - BIOIntellegence
12:15:39 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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12:16:09 From Bart de Witte To Everyone:
https://opensourceseeds.org/gossi
12:16:35 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Jon Ramer (from yesterday’s panel and the AfterChat) will be joining the AfterChat today to continue our AI Sprint to create an OtherNetworks AI Companion.
12:16:53 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
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12:17:03 From Connie Baxter Marlow To Everyone:
Speaking of TRUST - We shift frequencies when we trust the process, with bold committed action! Check out our book “THE TRUST FREQUENCY: Ten Assumptions for a New Paradigm” - we have a free ebook “THE CONSCIOUS LOVING UNIVERSE: A Guidebook” https://TheTrustFrequency.net/CLU-ebook - Change your assumptions and world changes with you!
12:17:10 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
I invite you all to join us and see AI design in action!
12:18:14 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
BANNED BOOKS are the same… 🙁
12:18:19 From Cindy Bledsoe To Everyone:
Pay-to-play systems that withhold intelligence and wisdom are unnatural and doom a societal downfall.
12:18:45 From Monica Plant To All Panelists:
Really grateful for this panel and this discussion, and for the thought to dedicate this week to AI literacy; deep gratitude to all. Would also be grateful to see greater diversity (women, people of colour) participating in these panels/discussions.
12:19:20 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Everyone wants the best for our families. When we focus on commonalities we help more people. We know that our best chance is through dialogue. This has been proven to work in so many fields. It will also work in the political arena when using mediation practices. Let the proof be found in the pudding!
Do you know about the Resolutionaries mediation style efforts in governmental solutions… Together We Can Achieve More ~ check out the Building Civic Bridges Act, https://resolutionaries.org/advocacy/
We also started the PeaceMakers Circles/Network to bring Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace. So here’s a way to bring our Vision/Mission/Mantra to life.
12:19:58 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Look at all the hidden scriptures the Vatican has still hidden…
12:19:59 From Diane. To Everyone:
Would love to join you - just on phone and doing humanity xxxxx
12:20:32 From janice hall To Everyone:
QUESTION: can't you edit this HR into a shorter version to show as part of your lobbying?
12:20:46 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
Monica and everyone: PLEASE set the “To” button to “Everyone.”
12:20:49 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Working on that, Janice — come to the AfterChat and find out.
12:21:22 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
Open Source is NATURE’S WAY.
12:21:48 From Bart de Witte To Everyone:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Wisdom
12:21:51 From Monica Plant To Everyone:
Thank you, Stan. Will be more mindful in future.
12:21:56 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network To Everyone:
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This program offers both an intellectual understanding and direct experience of biomimicry in its fullness ~ From INside Out. Journey in the curiosity of SHOW ME the highest expression of this moment.
See: DANCING WITH BIOMIMICRY: Embodying Nature as Our Guide, https://youtu.be/7jAfWyCpXPM, produced by the Peace Lab for Humanity Rising Global Solutions Summit, 2/16/22; number 414. Maybe follow this with Introduction to Integral Education:!https://youtu.be/BdVyAQcxHfg
Also APPLY what is contained in Living Values Education’s Activities for Caring for the Earth.
Nature gives us everything yet doesn’t rush.
12:22:58 From Connie Baxter Marlow To Everyone:
Jim - You are so totally brilliant!!
12:23:55 From Shannon McArthur To Everyone:
Jim: “Many historians believe it was the Andalusian Age that gave rise to the Age of Chivalry, Renaissance…”
12:24:00 From Monica Plant To Everyone:
I appreciated the analogies/cultural translations that Bart and Daniel provided along the way during their shares. I appreciated the framing that Tom provided at the beginning, and the insightful moderating that Georg did. Bravo and gratitude!
12:24:44 From janice hall To Everyone:
yes both have consequences... but in each case the results are dependent on someone or some group assuming 'they' have the 'right' answers
12:24:57 From Diane. To Everyone:
Phew!! Love the technology (and walked in to chivalry hahaha) but - seeds of Love to play with - People, more important for here and now over the techie stuff
12:25:07 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
OtherNetworks holds the most comprehensive list of Humanity Rising
12:25:10 From Anne Marie Law To Everyone:
🙏
12:25:12 From Stanley Pokras To Everyone:
You can join the After Chat here:
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Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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12:25:17 From Charry Stover To Everyone:
Thank you.
12:25:22 From Charry Stover To Everyone:
Very enlightening
12:25:23 From Diane. To Everyone:
Thank you all too xxx
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