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Humanity Rising Day 731 Chat Page   –   Friday June 30, 2023

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11:01:35 From Richard Page to Everyone:

   Love the new logo and music intro

11:01:52 From Georg Boch to Everyone:

   Thanks Richard

11:02:17 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   Thanks for this! It took me a while bc I’ve been watching on YouTube.

11:03:14 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   This session is not available on YouTube?  It won't come up

11:04:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!

   

   Bless you, Jim!

11:04:02 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   I’ve watched all other days on YouTube

11:04:22 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   They are there, but not this one

11:04:50 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   Need to find it for someone else

11:06:18 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Know the truth, and it will set you free - how do you know the truth?  — It is always based in love.

11:07:16 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   The propaganda of so long!!!

11:07:26 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Welcome to Day 731 of Humanity Rising

11:08:14 From Jodie Evans to Everyone:

   ::https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2023/06/29/dod-chinese-spy-balloon-did-not-collect-transmit-data-over-the-us/::

11:08:38 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   The YouTube live stream of this episode can be reached on OtherNetworks ::https://othernetworks.org/HR!Day731::

11:09:18 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Fury of fear!  So true Jodie, WE ARE ON THE FRONT LINES OF THIS WAR on TRUTH.  Everyday, in every way!

11:09:25 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   Thanks, Stan - I have been searching under 730!

11:09:44 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   there are two 729, so I thought it was 730

11:12:14 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Diana, there’s only one DAY PAGE for 729 - check this list: ::https://othernetworks.org/List_of_Humanity_Rising_Day_Pages#June_2023_-_Days_710_to_731::

11:12:56 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   Not on YouTube, Shannon!  There are two 729 and no 730!!

11:13:43 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   The list can be accessed from the list of tools on the left panel….  Oh YouTube… we need to tell Georg!  He can fix that.  GEORG?

11:14:17 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   Our national heritage “learned” from European conquest.

11:14:34 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Thank you Michael for being here with us!  So great to hear the TRUTH - that Neither China nor India have ever tried to colonize other countries!  TRADE over WAR.

11:15:19 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Background on the effort to build the war industry can be found on Project for the New American Century, ::https://othernetworks.org/Project_for_the_New_American_Century:: Written before the September 11 attacks, and during political debates of the War in Iraq.

11:17:01 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   I’ve attended several talks/panel on Islamophobia

11:18:32 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   These riots are inHong Kong?

11:19:15 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   Were in HonKong

11:19:34 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   WOW! Even Democracy Now was/is propagandized!

11:21:14 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   It’s a shame when we can only believe what’s fashionable, even when the truth is otherwise.

11:22:10 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   The speaker yesterday, Fred Teng, served as the chief executive officer of News China Magazine, a publication he launched worldwide on newsstands and digitally online. The magazine is useful in understanding a Chinese point of view.

11:23:10 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   I spent YEARS drinking in the Democracy Now message without opposing view! Sad.

11:24:35 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   I would LOVE a recording of this 1st event!

11:24:55 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Thanks for mentioning PNAC! A bold, aggressive plan for planetary domination!  Anne Wright exposed all of this, which was unleashed by (pre-planned!) 911 - which was a classic "false flag terrorism event" to invade IRAQ over US lies about (non existent) Weapons of Mass Destruction.  Constant illiegal, immoral, unjust, unconstitutional, obscenely costly, destructive wars - IN OUR NAME!  WITH OUR TAX DOLLARS!

11:26:07 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   You would be a great addition to the Peacemakers Circles. Please accept this gift of membership in the PeaceMakers Circles/Network. PeaceMakers do it in Everything. BEING THE BEST ANCESTOR to 7 Generations ahead.

   

   We are thrilled that after 50 years of working globally with success techniques and leadership skills to have an opportunity to build the PeaceMakers Circle/Network. We already have people in Africa, Asia, Europe, and N. America. We are, for the first time, bringing ancient wisdom together with the best leaders and the best tools of the 21st century.

   

   See how we can do it even faster with the PeaceMaker MasterHeart Circles ~ to be all you can be in bringing Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace:  ::https://noblegoldman.com/fun/intentional-change-network/kurtkrueger::

   

   A person’s reach should exceed their grasp, or what’s a Heaven for?

   ~ Robert Browning ~

   

    90 minutes discussing PeaceMakers: What are PeaceMakers Circles and How do they bring Peace to Life? ::https://youtu.be/EU36VUWlodk::

11:26:29 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Access to the recordings for this whole week on China is not our enemy can be found here: ::https://othernetworks.org/HR!Day727::

11:26:30 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   Thank you for embracing your difficult new experience!

11:26:48 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Where are the Chinese bases anywhere in the world? NONE?

11:29:00 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   This patient view of Mainland China is a very good example for me. I disagree with people, but I have to embrace the notion that I do for now!

11:29:23 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   When are we getting to the SOLUTION?

11:29:35 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   Thank you!

11:30:15 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

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                   Welcome to Humanity Rising

                   With Love...          

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11:30:45 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:

   Thank you Michael..brought lots of clarity in this theme

11:31:37 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   That’s why my biography had to be longer! 😆

11:31:58 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Thanks Michael for your astute overview and your deep dedication to Peace!

11:32:05 From James Duffin to Everyone:

   Eventual "peaceful reunification" with Taiwan? How many people in Taiwan want that?

11:33:23 From anne de Lovinfosse to Everyone:

   Totally for peace and wanting to hear balanced presentations.  Very aware of the imperialist”attitude of US and how my chinese friends have been demonized> I am totally confused…Is the invasion of Tibet not for just for minerals…or is it not an invasion?The silk road of nowadays ..in Africa the chinese are creating infrastructures  and not creating jobs for the africans but bringing chinese workers..(according to the experience of multiple belgian family members working there…) Yes, lifting chinese out of poverty …but the means used are questionable…like creating “modern cities”disconnected from the natural world> What is the deal today with AI surveillance.etc. Let’s not forget that China  needs the chips manufactured by Taiwan.                                            I love the position of Kennedy clearly stating that China is not our enemy!

11:34:43 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   Wow! “China is not our enemy” is very powerful!

11:36:19 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   Thanks, Anne, for your Point of view - you have expressed my Questions, too.  I would love These Topics to be brought up ,as well

11:36:28 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   Out of the mouths of babes! Beautiful!

11:36:51 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Beautiful to hear. Thank you!

11:37:05 From Michael Wong to Host and Panelists:

   According to polls, opinion in Taiwan on eventual reunification goes up and down.  It was up for awhile, then down, but now there are demonstrations saying if it's choice between being the next Ukraine or reunification, they'd prefer reunification.  But what's consistent is that majorities always want to maintain the status quo for now.

11:37:30 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Your joyous messages are so vital!  Thank you! Peace and Caring are ALWAYS worth showing up for!

11:37:43 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   The leaders of the U.S. military manufacturers are well served by having enemies. That’s where their profits are gained.

11:38:36 From James Duffin to Everyone:

   What about what China has done in Tibet, including installing a false spiritual leader? Is the following link part of American propaganda (without any validity)? ::https://www.polygraph.info/a/factcheck-china-tibetan-buddhism/6743362.html::

11:39:46 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   The newest message I’m hearing? Cubas spy base being built by China. Does that deserve a response? How do we do this?

11:40:42 From anne de Lovinfosse to Everyone:

   Stan, the military manufacturers are not the privilege of US…they are in Europe and other part of the world….  This industry does not care who wins or loses…just wants the money of war…

11:42:19 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   I want to go to China. Someone here organizing a trip soon?

11:42:45 From Josh Mitteldorf to Everyone:

   I'm going to an international conference on aging in Shanghai in October

11:43:03 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   Hitler tried a two front war that didn’t go very well.

11:43:14 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Anne, I understand that the owners of U.S. corporations are spread around the world.

11:45:06 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   Wow! I was hoping my town board could form relationships with Chinese. Sad our nation is moving against this.

11:45:42 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   With Love...          

                   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

                           You can join the After Chat here:       

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11:46:19 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   Good to understand the neocon hubris!

11:46:20 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Paul, I think your town forming a relationship with Chinese is a step towards Peace. I encourage you!

11:47:05 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   Shannon who can help guide me on this?

11:47:48 From Josh Mitteldorf to Everyone:

   I think it's not a strategic or Realpolitik decision. Even Kissinger says that war with China is crazy. There's something even more mysterious and more evil going on, people who regard nuclear annihilation as an acceptable risk, or even a plus. I don't claim to understand it.

11:48:22 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   Yes Josh, sad…

11:48:30 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   There are Canadian cities with “Sister Cities” in other nations, including China. Perhaps look into how those relationships have been cultivated…

11:48:49 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Jim, the principal of Project for the New American Century can be found here ::https://othernetworks.org/Project_for_the_New_American_Century::

11:48:59 From Josh Mitteldorf to Everyone:

   US-China People's Friendship Association was headed by a friend of mine for many years.

   Still going strong.  ::https://www.uscpfa.org/::

11:49:03 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Paul, check out Surrey BC

11:49:22 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Written before the September 11 attacks, and during political debates of the War in Iraq, a section of Rebuilding America's Defenses entitled "Creating Tomorrow's Dominant Force" became the subject of considerable controversy: "Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event – like a new Pearl Harbor."[48] Journalist John Pilger pointed to this passage when he argued that the Bush administration had used the events of September 11 as an opportunity to capitalize on long-desired plans.[52]

11:50:28 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Paul, also, come to the AfterChat. Josh has come before and you might connect with him.

11:50:32 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   I live in Seattle, within 20 miles of the largest stockpile of nuclear weapons in existence.The Bangor Naval Submarine Base is the primary nuclear missile submarine base on the West Coast and has one of the largest collections of nuclear weapons in the country, with approximately 1,700 Trident missiles either stored at its hill-top depot or onboard its fleet of eight Trident submarines which roam the seas on secret missions. I HAVE NEVER FELT THREATENED BY ANY COUNTRY EVER!  NO BOMBS HAVE EVER CREATED A BETTER WORLD.  NEVER!  WAR creates only human and ecological destruction, US hegemony, organ harvesting, and many other UNIMAGINABLE atrocities and endless intergenerational TRAUMA.  Will women RISE into PEACE LEADERSHIP?  PS:  Shame on Hilary for her destructive ignorant propaganda!!!

11:51:12 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   Hillary Clinton. “Our Secretary of State” sad about this history.

11:51:46 From James Duffin to Everyone:

   I'm confused. You say that the world is too big for any country to dominate the world, but earlier you said that the U.S. is dominating the world. What am I missing?

11:52:54 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   US leaders are groomed, indoctrinated, and paid to be WAR MONGERS.

11:54:36 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Hate sells guns and bombs!

11:54:43 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   US is also BLESSED by native indigenous tribes for 1000's of years!  Time to cooperate and RECLAIM all of our diverse wisdom paths AND our regenerative farming!

11:55:54 From anne de Lovinfosse to Everyone:

   European countries also have lost discrimination….it is not just Us….Solution is a shift of consciousness..

11:56:10 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   CREATING VIRTUES through education PREVENTS VIOLENCE, and CORRUPTION. This program, ::http://LivingValues.net:: has over 90% reduction in violence in a Thai Refugee Camp within 2 years! The woman who developed it then went to Johannesburg, RSA and designed a program for street people - similar results!

   

   It’s free, the Living Values Education Program: The first two Values instructed are LOVE and PEACE.  All the other Values are generated from these. Thus affecting ALL life on our planet in every day.

   

   Here's more on three quality character development programs: Character Inclusion for Regenerative Societies, Diane Tillman, Daniel Allen. ::https://youtu.be/08sYrYfNvnw:: a Humanity Rising Global Solutions Summit program produced by the Peace Lab.

   

   “The philosophy of the school room in one generation will be the philosophy of government in the next.”

     ~ Abraham Lincoln ~

11:56:40 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:

   I wonder if we looked at this as the expression of young souls, instead of branding folks, would that open up new approaches? As it is it is force against force, us against them, in several configurations, and that only create more force in opposition. Money and power are young soul interests. China is a old soul country, however there are some young souls in power and that is problematic.

11:56:43 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Yes, Jodie… they make money on war… just having “enemies” sells weapons.

11:58:45 From Josh Mitteldorf to Everyone:

   I don't think they're delusional. They are propagating a delusional narrative -- that's for sure. It's on purpose, but it is not easily explained. How can nuclear war be good for anyone, anywhere, no matter how much money and power they have? Something very strange is going on. We don't know who they warmongers are, but they are not the same as the neocons or the Realpolitik Strangeloves. This is something new and hard to understand.

11:59:00 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   Have all "western countries" been manipulated into believing in war?  Not just the US.

11:59:03 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   DUMBING DOWN OF AMERICA!  This is a central problem, from birth to death.  Jodie, Deep Thanks for mentioning this issue.  YES!  We Americans have become delusional, complacent, and lazy in many regards. Tragic propaganda! coming from all directions!  YES, 100% INSANE!

11:59:37 From anne de Lovinfosse to Everyone:

   AS “we are not the elite”what is the solution?Intellectual awareness is not enough…

12:00:05 From Paul Flansburg to Everyone:

   Can I admit sometimes that’s kind of sad? When Mike, who sounds a lot like me says “we,” there’s a reflexive pause I notice in my consciousness. However, even when a Black person with an accent says “we,” there’s no necessary conscious pause for reflection about their “Americanness.” I don’t say this with pride but only because I want profitable reflection and understanding.

12:00:54 From diana Winhill to Everyone:

   China understands Peace? But what is it doing to ist own People??

12:01:03 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Everyone wants the best for our families. When we focus on commonalities we help more people. We know that our best chance is through dialogue. This has been proven to work in so many fields. It will also work in the political arena when using mediation practices. Let the proof be found in the pudding!

   

   Do you know about the Resolutionaries efforts in governmental solutions… Together We Can Achieve More ~ check out the Building Civic Bridges Act, ::https://resolutionaries.org/advocacy/::

12:02:10 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Yay!  The Summer of Peace!  Ready to go!  Got my colorful outfit, signs, facts, and passion together!  Count me in!

12:02:46 From Diane C to Everyone:

   Sounds like it's still us/them thinking though. How do we create an option that invites, inspires, provokes those who want war to want something else?  Identifying with victimhood sounds like a losing proposition.  Let's create a culture where we value reality and kindness and reflection and generosity (of spirit and materiel).  No one wins unless we ALL (even the ones we're criticizing) win.

12:02:51 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   I find it sad that this conversation seems to be missing the need for a constitutional amendment to stop money being “free speech” and corporations are “persons” with the right to spend as much as they want to control congress.

12:03:36 From Jodie Evans to Everyone:

   ::https://www.codepink.org/china::

   

   ::https://www.codepink.org/chinaday::

   

   ::https://www.codepink.org/pbs_china::

   

   ::https://www.codepink.org/nowarintaiwan::

   

   ::https://www.codepink.org/chinapeaceplan::

   

   ::https://www.codepink.org/summerofpeace::

12:03:38 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Excellent central psychological & spiritual point Jodie!  YES, we have created the "enemy within"

12:04:23 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Please see Move to Amend ::https://othernetworks.org/Move_to_Amend_(MTA)::

12:04:42 From Paul Flansburg to Host and Panelists:

   Thank you kim an Jody for emphasizing “enemy within “

12:04:43 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Even bring 2 friends, if you can’t bring 5…

12:04:53 From James Duffin to Everyone:

   Connection is wonderful. Unfortunately, we usually define ourselves by not being others, by separation. That makes it harder to see that we are all one.

12:04:54 From Robert Hayes to Everyone:

   ☆  Yeah, like we have a choice.  ☆

   But we do.  

   If we had chosen to not squander our enormous wealth but instead bought into something like OTEC, for instance - even Lockheed could have made out.  They’re already active proving this technology.  

   Several thousand of these Ocean Thermal Energy Conversion arrayed on deep water areas could have made a HUGE dent in our profligate fossil fuel appetites.

   Civil cooperation might really advance our peaceful, intact, resilient life here.

12:05:07 From Marie-France Lepage to Everyone:

   Might China’s collective psyche also been transformed by its historical constatation that all their invaders became sinisized over time? That the Chinese are such their own singularity that they not need to invade others? Are we projecting our own shadow of disassociated discultured identities?

12:05:08 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   BRUSH YOUR TEETH AND CALL CONGRESS! 🤩 I LOVE THIS MORNING ROUTINE AND MANDATE!

12:05:45 From Stan Pokras to Paul Flansburg, Host and Panelists:

   Paul, please set the “To” button to “Everyone”

12:06:10 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   What happens when we focus on what we want?

   

   We know the history and how people and our planet HAVE been treated.

   

   We are living NOW, and can create a new reality when we focus upon it. Syntropy is caused by Loving Focus. When we keep the focus on what we want, we can get it. The unwanted then gets to wither up and turn into compost for growing more Love and Helpfulness.

   

   Where our attention goes, energy flows.  Eco-centered Everything! Yes! Positive Focus, lets the negatives compost themselves.

   

   

   When we want virtues and values to be expressed by others, how did people learn these? DO our schools educate for quality character? Our society has a 200 year old Education, Governmental, Medical, Economic, and Prison system. Has it created good for all? We can replace it?

   

   When and how will we focus on creating Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace? When we realize that war is never the answer.

   

   Research shows that when the least of us is uplifted/educated/healed, it VASTLY improves all others.

12:07:07 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.

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