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10:52:08 From Connie Zweig to Host and Panelists:
Link to my new book:
10:52:11 From Connie Zweig to Host and Panelists:
10:56:37 From Ubiquity University to Everyone:
11:01:26 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
No shadow here! Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:03:04 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
How do the Aborigines look at the Shadow? Do they? Or is simply Being Present.
11:03:51 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Hello, Shannon. It’s Day 717 with Connie Zweig on “The Shadow”
11:05:39 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
The brighter the light, the darker the shadow?
11:07:15 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
And if there is no ‘place’ for the SHADOW to to ‘land’ and only clear light/consciousness?
11:08:18 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
poobah and betsy shadow & shade ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-InnIfeMZzw:: “As long as I have a shadow, you have shade.” I’ve had the privilege of meeting Poobah.
11:08:48 From Ubiquity University to Everyone:
You can find Connie’s new book here:
11:08:50 From Ubiquity University to Everyone:
Link to my new book:
11:10:34 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
Happy to be here for this challeging subject
11:10:41 From judith to Host and Panelists:
to be sure, human nature as the root of all we're inflicting
11:11:10 From judith to Host and Panelists:
the root of all we're inflicting upon our life source, Mother Nature
11:12:21 From judith to Host and Panelists:
and why?
11:13:29 From Stan Pokras to judith, Host and Panelists:
Please set the “To” to “Everyone” so all can see your comments
11:13:37 From judith to Host and Panelists:
and why?orgot it should be to everyone re our human nature being at the root of all we are doing to Mother Nature --
11:15:07 From judith to Everyone:
sorry Stan...trying again! re out human nature being the root of all we are inflicting upon our life source, Mother Nature..and why?
11:17:05 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
What if we Nurture with Love and Wisdom, AND Discipline with Peace and Respect? Are there shadows produced?
11:28:53 From Marie-France Lepage to Everyone:
An enlightening history of the God Image: ::https://www.amazon.ca/God-Image-Antiquity-Jung-Lionel-Corbett/dp/1630519847::
11:31:30 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
The book, Nurturing with Love and Wisdom, Disciplining with Peace and Respect: Mindful Parenting, by Diane Tillman offers an amazing ‘Way’. Have the Living Values practices taught is schools… For 2 minutes listen to this: ::https://youtu.be/A7VQHNd_MKE::
Developing and applying quality values is vitally important for all levels of society.
11:31:50 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Or HE, not simply the she’s
11:35:57 From Andrew Stock to Host and Panelists:
great stuff
11:36:37 From Ina Albert to Everyone:
Ina Albert: Yes Kurt. Both sexes are victims.
11:42:33 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
In Brasil we have seen the past few years the exposure of sexual abuse in gurus, famous healers...like Joao de Deus that attracted thousands from all over the world for years...
11:42:35 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
That’s awesome, Connie~ thank you for sharing with us today!!
11:42:56 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
TY Connie. Blessings abound when You’re around. :)
11:43:09 From Anneli Martini to Host and Panelists:
great talk looking forward to take part
11:43:12 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
With Love...
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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11:49:44 From lalli drobny to Host and Panelists:
Connies email again pls
11:52:10 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
People…. Please set the blue “To” button to “Everyone”
11:52:37 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Discernment is the key word… 🙂
11:53:16 From Andrew Stock to Everyone:
This will be on youtube, correct?
11:54:38 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Jacob Needleman wrote that Solomon built the Temple steps using the powers of both “good and evil”. What does that mean?
11:54:45 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
This is already on Youtube…. here
11:54:58 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
here is the link ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mRGw6y8Pg8::
11:56:23 From Andrew Stock to Everyone:
thanks Stan
11:56:24 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
The incident with the Dalai Lama was a misunderstanding. It has to do with an idiom.
11:56:26 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
Dalai Lama explained
11:56:28 From Richard Page to Everyone:
So, Jim, you read the ma but never walked the territory
11:56:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Idioms make idiots of us all
11:57:06 From Richard Page to Everyone:
MAP
11:57:55 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://www.netflix.com/title/80145240:: (WIld Wild Country documentary 2018)
11:58:05 From ann cole to Everyone:
Working with the shadow requires great discipline and moral work. I wonder how we learn these skills in community? Projections so rife.
12:00:12 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
I was in training with Muktananda to be a swami and realized I couldn’t be celibate and backed off… only to find out other facts. I have taken away the best of some great TRUE teachings and choose to “Judge Not … lest ye be judged.” Cause I know Kurt is not without fault. 🙂 Happy days ensued and ensue because Kurt has chosen to manifest more Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace.
12:00:41 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Eastern Tibetan customary saying “I have given you the candy, now all that’s left is to eat my tongue
12:01:49 From Richard Page to Everyone:
Please do the backstory research
12:02:21 From Marie-France Lepage to Everyone:
Tibetan Buddhism is a theocracy and has managed to “enslave” a whole population to sustain it. The Dalai Lama ostracizes followers from another of the four branches of Buddhism. Children can’t go to school and people can’t get a job in India where they are refugees if they don’t abandon beliefs in the “right” Dharma protectors our equivalent to saints. Hypocrisy from a Nobel laureate…
12:03:31 From Connie Zweig to Everyone:
conniezweig@gmail.com
12:04:58 From Michael Putz to Host and Panelists:
I don’t accept the idea of excusing the Dali Lama protecting corrupt teachers to preserve Tibetan Buddhism in the West in general
12:05:09 From m monk to Host and Panelists:
so much interest in character asassination
12:05:30 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:
I haven't ever heard anything bad about Bede Griffiths.
12:05:57 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Please write to “Everyone” — set the blue button.
12:06:21 From Richard Page to Everyone:
I was filming in the Dalai Lama’s living room during this meeting of western Buddhist teachers who were applying for equality with the Tibetan teachers in order to censure male Buddhist teachers who had sex with their students, certainly a violation of power and privilege.
12:08:25 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Nityananda is a successor of Baba Muktananda, he ‘fell’ with his secretary and ‘came back to celibacy after being told he was no longer a successor. I choose to think he never stopped just had his trip - like most of us!
12:08:37 From Eve Jackson to Host and Panelists:
This is not to excuse the Dalai Lama’s refusal to condemn the transgressing teachers, but although he was the political head of Tibet he was only the head of one of the Buddhist schools (Gelugpa) and had no direct authority over the teachers mentioned.
12:09:13 From Stan Pokras to Eve Jackson, Host and Panelists:
Please write to “Everyone” — set the blue button
12:09:50 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Let the ‘gossip’ cease and focus on what WE can do for another Transition Time. :)
12:10:25 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
What happens when we focus on what we want?
We know the history and how people and our planet HAVE been treated.
We are living NOW, and can create a new reality when we focus upon it. Syntropy is caused by Loving Focus. When we keep the focus on what we want, we can get it. The unwanted then gets to wither up and turn into compost for growing more Love and Helpfulness.
Where our attention goes, energy flows.
When we want virtues and values to be expressed by others, how did people learn these? DO our schools educate for quality character? Our society has a 200 year old Education, Governmental, Medical, Economic, and Prison system. Has it created good for all? We can replace it?
When and how will we focus on creating Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace? What happens when we realize that war is never the answer.
Research shows that when the least of us is uplifted/educated/healed, it VASTLY improves all others.
12:11:04 From ann cole to Everyone:
Thank you
12:11:09 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
I was part of a Gurdjieff group for 20 years until the "teachers" started to do the abuse talked about here...I am almost fell into their trap...
12:11:20 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
You would be a great addition to the Peacemakers Circles. Please accept this gift of membership in the PeaceMakers Circles/Network. PeaceMakers do it in Everything. BEING THE BEST ANCESTOR to 7 Generations ahead.
We are thrilled that after 50 years of working globally with success techniques and leadership skills to have an opportunity to build the PeaceMakers Circle/Network. We already have people in Africa, Asia, Europe, and N. America. We are, for the first time, bringing ancient wisdom together with the best leaders and the best tools of the 21st century.
A person’s reach should exceed the grasp, or what’s a Heaven for?
~ Robert Browning ~
90 minutes discussing PeaceMakers: What are PeaceMakers Circles and How do they bring Peace to Life? ::https://youtu.be/EU36VUWlodk::
12:11:38 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
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12:11:38 From Susan Iancanelli to Everyone:
Connie, what do you think the choice you made was centered in by within your self?
12:12:24 From ann cole to Everyone:
Whistleblower can also be another way to shame publicly. I think it is a personal path to talk one on one.
12:12:45 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Hi everyone: WE MUST protect and educate our children! The idea that the Dalai Lama would dedicate his whole life to ascending from attachment to the five senses but not quite be able to relinquish a freakish sexual attachment to children is absurd” and the suggestion that “he’s just a perv, based on one interaction among the countless thousands he has had with children throughout his life, is ridiculous.”
12:13:01 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Thanks for your life’s work for a thriving life for all. Together in collaboration, coagulation, and dialogue, we get to prompt the world back into thriving for ALL our relations. See how we can do it even faster with the PeaceMaker Master Heart Circles ~ to be all you can be to bring Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace: ::https://noblegoldman.com/fun/intentional-change-network/kurtkrueger::
Kurt Krueger, AnotherU, PeaceMakersCircles AT gmail DOT com
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‘We don't address their brains; we address their hearts.’ ~ Mandela
12:13:11 From Marie-France Lepage to Everyone:
Yes to meditation! Religious/gurus structure face the challenge of a increased number of participants who rely on credos and obedience rather than having the direct mystical experience… The greater the distance, the greater the vulnerability…
12:13:15 From Tricia Fortina ; ) to Host and Panelists:
Without getting political... can Connie say more about the collective shadow onto political leaders... ie D Trump...
12:14:29 From Stan Pokras to Tricia Fortina ; ), Host and Panelists:
Please write to “Everyone” — set the blue button
12:14:35 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
A vaccine that anyone can take to cure humans inhumanity to others ~
To be fully effective, this gets to be done periodically through the day, until well practiced to work. Here’s a 15 minute video describing PeaceMaker Meditation. ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo:: Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace. will reverberate throughout your day… This ‘mantra’ is used in your HOME language. Then Law of Predominant Mental Impression makes it the focus thus attracting more peace to you and ‘others.’
A few scientifically proven benefits that meditation also gives: stress/trauma reduction, improved performance in sports and elsewhere, increased mental and physical health.
When I was teaching at Stockholm University in 1984, I gave a special program for the Swedish Prison Wardens and Priests on Using Meditation for Rehabilitation ~ It Changes People Inside so When They Go Outside, They’re Different. ˆThey’re recidivism rate is about 20%, ours 80%. They now use more rehabilitation practices.
12:15:42 From harriett crosby to Everyone:
How does all of this help us understand why so many of Trump’s supporters are still under his spell?
12:16:12 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
I think we have issues with “purity” and what those who are successful in any way (founding fathers?) who also have human desires and faults, lessons? There is a lot to be learned here. Do we throw out the baby with the bathwater? Kurt, I SO understand, I chose the same path - trust what you know is good and no blame, no judgement.
12:16:14 From Dr. Carroy (Cuf) Ferguson to Everyone:
For those who desire to explore the shadow as it relates to race relations, here’s a link to a resource: ::https://www.amazon.com/Evolving-Human-Race-Game-Soul-Centered/dp/1947247212/ref=sr_1_1?crid=1MA3W8A24PCT8&keywords=evolving+the+human+race+game&qid=1686586494&sprefix=evolving+the+human+%2Caps%2C128&sr=8-1::
12:16:19 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:
I'm very grateful for this discussion on the shadow and light. I'll definitely get the book.
12:17:23 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
One needs to accept one’s own self in order to accept the shadow in others.
12:18:14 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Trump is called the second coming - he’s been blessed etc.
12:18:36 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
Same in Brasil with Bolsonaro...
12:18:39 From Yanjun Song to Everyone:
I feel Connie is asking all the questions to me!
12:19:14 From Yanjun Song to Everyone:
Thank you for all the questions.
12:19:28 From Susan Iancanelli to Everyone:
Absolutely - a feeling of desperation is driving this.
12:20:49 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:
But sometimes when the church leader is supported by a loving community they are willing to listen and to change. I have experienced this recently.
12:22:02 From Judy Hanmer to Everyone:
But this was a case of angry behaviour, not exactly abuse.
12:23:38 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
All roads lead to a 1000 YEARS of Colonial Trauma perpetrated by Western White Christian Supremacy and the horrendous atrocities committed by the shadow of Christianity, Islam, and the UNHOLY alliance of the British and US Empire. ONLY WAY THRU THIS MADNESS IS BY RECLAIMING ALL THINGS SACRED - ONE ELECTON AT A TIME!!!
12:24:56 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Kim, I think the only way out is understanding the depth of one’s own shadow, forgive one’s self and then be able to forgive and deal with others in love.
12:26:35 From Meg Newhouse to Everyone:
This is so wise, Connie. Thank you both. Meg
12:26:37 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Yes Connie! How did the entire world MISS this extraordinary PSYCHOPATHOLOGY! Unchecked SHADOW in our midst! Thank you Connie! Superb courage, Connie!
12:27:04 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
All the world scriptures were written by men during (causing?) the Kali Yuga ~ described in India as the darkest and most troublesome times of the Four Great Yugas ~ each thousands of years long. According to tradition, the next Yuga is Satya, the most peaceful, pure time of the Yugas. Where Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace permeates life on Gaia.
What is your rendition of a scripture that would be adhered to bring us into the coming Satya Yuga? Would there be more than one? This is something that may allow us to “be the architects of the future, not its victims,” as Buckminster Fuller wrote. What say you?
In Service…

12:27:12 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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12:27:15 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Yes. Jim, WE must HOLD the sea of opposites! On our way to next Golden Age!
12:27:17 From Meg Newhouse to Host and Panelists:
Connie, I couldn’t come on until very late. Can you point me to the link recording.
12:27:22 From Rebekka Kvelland to Everyone:
Thank you for this space and for Connie. I red hour books and will keep on reading
12:27:22 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Gentle no’s, instead of punishment and banishment.
12:27:23 From MARIA PATRICIA PRADO to Everyone:
Super thanks for bringing this topic...wow!
12:27:27 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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