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10:51:29 From Stan Pokras to Host and Panelists:
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11:00:36 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
Good day to you all — Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:03:25 From Stan Pokras - AfterChat host - Philadelphia to Everyone:
Welcome to Day 715 of Humanity Rising - on the topic of Autism
11:05:21 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
"Nature" framed as creation is full of abundant life.
11:05:47 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
...and value.
11:08:29 From Stan Pokras - AfterChat host - Philadelphia to Everyone:
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Welcome to Humanity Rising
With Love...
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11:14:49 From Andrew Bailey to Everyone:
Wonderful to hear Plotinus on HR! Very much confirms my writings in THE TRUST FREQUENCY. The Universe is ALIVE. It’s CONSCIOUS and it LOVES US because we ARE IT! It is entirely composed of Love, so what else could it do?
11:15:50 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://duaneelgin.com/books/the-living-universe/:: (Duane Elgin 2009)
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HD4WthE414k:: (54:31 The Living Universe - Documentary about Consciousness and Reality | Waking Cosmos. based on an essay Adrian wrote for his philosophy master's degree, inspired by the work of, among others, Brian Swimme, Thomas Berry, Thomas Nagel, and Richard Tarnas.)
::https://www.youtube.com/@metaRising/featured:: (19 videos)
::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkuxCPS4b7o:: (12:18 The living universe, Elisabet Sahtouris; an excerpt from SAND Anthology Vol. 2. ::http://www.sahtouris.com/::)
11:16:07 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
They were great sessions!
11:18:17 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
dominion IS the problem…
11:18:34 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Stewardship is better
11:20:05 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
Welcome, Mandy!!
11:20:37 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Wow, Mandy - wonderful work you do…
11:21:43 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
What spurred your interest in Autism?
11:22:53 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Chemicals/Pollution in the foods, air, water. What do you think caused it?
11:23:44 From Russell Donda to Everyone:
No clear answers Kurt
11:26:41 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Check out one simple chemical added to the water in America, Floride… When did it come into prevalence?
11:28:00 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
Kurt, 1945 is what Google says
11:28:19 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
::https://www.kosmosjournal.org/article/the-living-universe/:: (A Living Systems Paradigm for Viewing Big History By Duane Elgin 2015)
::https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/6202723:: (The Living Universe: Where Are We? Who Are We? Where Are We Going? by Duane Elgin, Deepak Chopra, Foreword)
::https://living-universe.com/:: (The Living Universe is alternative theory of physics by James Carter.)
11:29:56 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Dr Zach Bush has had some interesting things to say about the prevalence of autism and other disorders. See his presentation from AfterSkool ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw16LPVnNco&t=2s::
11:31:27 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Many functional medicine doctors think that there are several critical path nutritional components
11:31:40 From Brandon Herscovitch to Host and Panelists:
There are a lot of correlations people look to but when we start looking at background probabilities and causal relations the reliability deteriorates. Many contend Autism has been around for years, though the diagnostic criteria only came around later.
11:33:28 From Brandon Herscovitch to Host and Panelists:
Consider that many kids are in day care, EI, and school all week. As Mandy said, it can and should be enjoyable to participants and target their needs in a way that a positive experience.
11:34:18 From Kat Haber to Everyone:
My grandson did not speak for the first 4 years of his life. I gave him an iPAD and encouraged walks outside. He graduated last week with the first 4 scholarships going to him. He gained dual credits at our local community college while completing high school. He was bullied at age 13 by a Latina who ultimately committed suicide. He changed from a traditional academic school to a school that put the students passions at the center. He had an individual education plan his entire life.
11:35:21 From Brandon Herscovitch to Host and Panelists:
Very well said George
11:35:35 From Shannon McArthur to Host and Panelists:
Thank you for sharing, Kat. Grateful to hear such a good story.
11:35:54 From judith to Everyone:
and some of us, so old, our ADD, ADHD, Dyscalculia, Dyslexia, ASD....is/was undiagnosed! It takes its toll as we've born it alone and with no understanding..
11:36:00 From Brandon Herscovitch to Host and Panelists:
Great to hear Kat!
11:36:09 From Stan Pokras to Brandon Herscovitch(Direct Message):
Please set the “To” to “Everyone” so all can see your comments
11:36:43 From Brandon Herscovitch to Stan Pokras(Direct Message):
Thanks!
11:37:34 From Stan Pokras to Brandon Herscovitch(Direct Message):
Shall I repost your comments?
11:41:26 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
With Love...
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11:45:36 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Host and Panelists:
#ItsNotBinary!
11:46:43 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
#ItsNotBinary!
11:47:32 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Kurt, Google says it was the 1940s when fluoride was added to city water supplies.
11:48:49 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thank you, Kat, for an autism story with a positive outcome. Congratulations to your grandson; he had a great grandmom!
11:49:42 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Mandy, what does #ItsNotBinary mean?
11:50:50 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
Short version: It means that more than one thing can be true and valid at the same time.
11:51:08 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks!
11:51:24 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
People are not black or white - they are shades of gray. All of us.
11:51:49 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Idk, I seem to be full colour!! ;)
11:52:04 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
Love it!
11:58:35 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
I have a white paper on the matter.
12:00:16 From judith to Everyone:
one cause I understand, neurodevelopment, in-utero, parent's PTSD etc...necessary self-protective dissociation
12:00:20 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Mandy, can you share your paper?
12:00:40 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
I will get it up on my website asap today.
12:01:27 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
George, right, there is the famous story of Milton Erikson dealing with a schizophrenic patient who believed he was Jesus Christ. When Erikson first met him, he said to him "I understand that you are a carpenter". My memory is that the man was then put to work on some carpentry projects at the institution where he was staying. He was eventually cured.
12:01:31 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thank you so much, Mandy.
12:02:35 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
I like your kind of delusion, Mandy.
12:02:54 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
(Smirks. Shimmies.)
12:07:01 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Repeating my earlier comment… Dr Zach Bush has had some interesting things to say about the prevalence of autism and other disorders. See his presentation from AfterSkool ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw16LPVnNco&t=2s::
12:09:50 From judith to Everyone:
and PS, post WW2 PTSD, passed down in-utero and infancy....and for how many different post war generations?
12:09:54 From michael coles to Everyone:
THIS IS A CHEMICAL BASED PROBLEM NOT A HUMAN TRAIT ONE
12:10:16 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
::https://linktr.ee/amandaralston::
12:10:38 From judith to Everyone:
I, for one, do now agree with what you say Michael
12:10:39 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
I want to emphasize that none of these diagnoses are problems to be “cured”
12:11:21 From judith to Everyone:
meant so say I do NOT agree with you Michael...my ADD showing up
12:12:59 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
As Mandy has said, there seem to be many causes /bases of autism. Keeping our minds open allows information to come in.
12:14:09 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
I treat and reverse autism ADD & ADHA, Depressiin, etc and each time the parent said they were fine until the vaccines. Read Say Goodbye to Autism by Dr. Nambudripad, only one of my 5 teachers curing all these things. Where is the funding coming from these studies? Read Bobby Kennedy's Book!
12:15:57 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
There is no such thing as NORMAL - only common and rare.
12:16:48 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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12:17:03 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thanks, Stan, looking forward to it!
12:17:23 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
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12:17:34 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Who is larry dausie?
12:17:57 From judith to Everyone:
LARRY DOSSEY MD
12:18:28 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
Thank you George!
12:18:46 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
Functional relationships
12:19:13 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
Cultural competence
12:20:06 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
Yes, Larry Dossey and Lynn McTaggart have evidence.
12:20:41 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Does some of the thinking on this KIND of topic have anything to do with differences in people such as some people wanting to attack and kill whole populations and others who want to enter a time where there is no violence in the world?
12:20:54 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
There are lots of studies!
12:21:32 From Katherine Augustine to Everyone:
Yes wow - so informative today… thank you both and Rush, Tom, and George, too!
12:21:39 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Yay, Russ!! Thank you so much for join us here on Humanity Rising!
12:22:00 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
Russ is my favorite lovable agitator. ;)
12:22:20 From Brandon Herscovitch to Everyone:
Thanks Russ!!
12:23:58 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
Yep. Trying to help make sure these decisions are CLINICAL and not operational
12:25:52 From judith to Everyone:
HUGE VARIABLES
12:26:27 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
I wonder if there is research on the effect of certain chemicals that affect brains? Nitrous Oxide (laughing gas) comes to mind as well as psychotropics such as LSD?
12:27:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Could this be a human-wide mutation fuelled by our lack of focus on our children?
12:27:29 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:
Excellent question.
12:27:38 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
Look up In A Different Key documentary about this, George
12:28:46 From judith to Everyone:
lack of focus on what it takes to shape a brain, to shape a life...no education for parenting!
12:28:51 From Michelle Massi to Everyone:
Question everything, its all up for another reality depending on your beliefs and no science is often lacking in scruples depending on the who, why and How. People have their shadows and fame can be a flame, just saying . Question everything. ,research it , and check you own intuition to add to it. Michelle M we are an evolutionary process so things change over time. new ideas ,new science. etc.. we no longer use leeches for an infection, glad to be here now! M.M.
12:29:15 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
Alzheimers also may be caused from the nano aluminum in all vaccines which have never been studied for its safety! We had very litgle if sny of this until vaccine!
12:29:39 From Charry Stover to Everyone:
I keep wondering if anyone has tried working with different brain wave states -- alpha, beta, gamma, etc. with the autistic spectrum individuals.
12:30:15 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Yes, George… it’s really a smart use of our time, energy and money to fund weapons at $60 billion a year?
12:31:33 From judith to Everyone:
yes Stan....patriarchal priorities on automatic-pilot
12:32:48 From Brandon Herscovitch to Everyone:
Great point Mandy
12:33:18 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
1 in 36…
12:33:35 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Thank you so much for coming to speak to us.
12:33:41 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Mandy, could there be a medical cause for my urge to be “helpful” to other people? I promote the idea that “helpfulness brings people in focus.”
12:33:53 From judith to Everyone:
Thank you all for tackling this complexity
12:34:05 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
Stan I’d love to talk more about it!
12:34:09 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Stan, if so, let’s spread the cause!!
12:34:17 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Come to the AfterChat!!!
12:34:26 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Thank you, Shannon.
12:34:37 From Amanda “Mandy” Ralston, to Everyone:
Thank you all so much
12:34:45 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:
Mandy, Stan and I will welcome you, and Everyone.
12:34:52 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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12:35:04 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:
Aluminum replaces itself in the brain because it is the same shape as iron but doesn't produce oxygen so the cell around it die. Turns out the nano aluminum passes the brain blood barrier OOPS! I have been a Allergist since 1996
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