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11:07:20 From Jim Hckman to Host and Panelists:
I am on but not as a panelist. cannot find my panelist link
11:07:31 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
We tell our kids, “Use your words!” We should ask our leaders to do the same… Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!
11:07:55 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:
A conflict between oligarchs for control of the melting Arctic
11:12:30 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:
and its now accessible mineral wealth
11:17:23 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
YES, John. What happens when we focus on what we want?
We know the history and how horrible people and our planet HAVE been treated.
We are living NOW, and can create a new reality when we focus upon it. When we want virtues and values to be expressed by others, how do people learn these? DO our schools educate for quality character? Does our society have a 200 year old Medical and Economic system creating good for all? What can replace it?
Research shows that when the least of us is uplifted/educated/healed, it VASTLY improves all others.
The Stoics had an expression: Acta non verba. Deeds not words.
11:17:25 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Host and Panelists:
Is Dr. Barbara Legere going to be joining us this week? Her work with the people in the Ukraine is very important. Good morning, everyone.
11:19:00 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Brilliant paradigm insight! Yes, of course, ALL GREAT MOVEMENTS ARE BORN IN HOT TUBS! With great souls, I might add. THANK YOU PEACE LEADERS!
11:20:22 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
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11:20:50 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
And Jodie too! All Passionate Spiritual Warriors!!!
11:23:21 From Shauna Muir to Host and Panelists:
Blessed is the spiritual humanity
11:23:52 From Marijke Kuipers to Host and Panelists:
Nice comment about monarchy on our Dutch Kings Day!
11:24:29 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Another BRILLIANT POINT about INTERNALIZED OPPRESSION in US citizens. Mind control becomes psychopathology.
11:27:34 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Fascinating question! Which tools? How to illuminate, educate, and wake up the entire American psyche?
11:28:33 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
Oliver Stones documentary on 2016 issues with the Ukraine offers some understanding of the WHY’s.
11:30:06 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
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To be fully effective, this gets to be done periodically through the day, until well practiced to work. Here’s a 15 minute video describing PeaceMaker Meditation. ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo:: Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace. will reverberate throughout your day… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and ‘others.’
A few scientifically proven benefits that meditation also gives: stress/trauma reduction, improved performance in sports and elsewhere, increased mental and physical health.
When I was teaching at Stockholm University in 1984, I gave a special program for the Swedish Prison Wardens and Priests on Using Meditation for Rehabilitation ~ It Changes People Inside so When They Go Outside, They’re Different. ˆThey’re recidivism rate is about 20%, ours 80%.
LOVE and helpfulness work wonders... When we work it, and we are worth it!
We are here to serve ~ Lot’s of Love,
11:32:17 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Brilliant, John
11:32:52 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
Diplomacy doesn't work because ultimately the powers that be don't want it to work -- they are invested in war... war is an economic driver for the elite and weapons are a major profit center for US... Governments will not be the answer.
11:34:38 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Love this idea of two "Super Powers" actually cooperating to create, and sustain PEACE. Yes, yes, yes!
11:34:49 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Janice, what you’re saying seems to indicate you think either citizen diplomacy or a revolution against the governments at war are the only options?
11:35:01 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
I wish organizations that care about disinformation would have stepped up to keep Buzzfeed alive.
11:35:20 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Sure, Kim, in the world you and I want to live in that could happen.
11:37:55 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:
Does anyone have a link to the Walz (?) article mentioned?
11:38:25 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
Aptly put, Jim - I use Game of Thrones as an analogy all the time.... patriarchal win/lose consciousness still drives us.
11:39:44 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:
Is this the article mentioned? ::https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/02/15/putin-right-ukraine-war/:: by Stephen Walt
11:39:48 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
If there ever was a time for citizen diplomacy, it is now - but we need a new model that addresses the systemic problems and is a sweeping global action program
11:41:54 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Isn’t it possible that “Peace” is a nonstarter as motivation to the American population. We are a population that looks to Sports for the ideas of how things work. In our Sports, ties are not the goal. Only winning is the desired outcome. So, wishing for Peace doesn’t offer much to the American mind.
11:43:27 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Stan, Americas think they have peace, and they don’t care much about anyone else…
11:44:42 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Stan, I think what you’ve touched on is intriguing. I remember the Earth Shot. The whole country was galvanized into that goal. The States need to refocus on a worthy goal.
11:45:06 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Yes Kathryn, this delusion of US peace (within) and without, is constantly reinforced by US education, media, and endless US military mind control.
11:45:26 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
Shannon yes, however I would call it a rEvolution but not necessarily 'against' - governments but one that fosters real transparency and somehow holds governments accountable.. democracy is not a spectator sports
11:45:54 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Good analysis, Mark.
11:47:02 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
The way to convince the U.S. and China to work together to end violence is to convince the population that the outcome will be “Profit.” For the population of both countries that profit needs to be seen in terms of the satisfaction of life style. Prosperity will hold more sway than Peace.
11:47:21 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Yes, consciousness is cause. AND everything is better consciousness. THESE are indeed, the two most powerful human tools. Outstanding point!
11:47:21 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
Agree, Stan
11:47:52 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
In other words, we need to convince the American public that Peace is more Profitable than war.
11:48:10 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
Mark you are so right about the 'stories' We somehow need to find the '3rd way - one that acknowledges the 'truth' in each story and creating a new story.
11:48:28 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:
Yes, when people are far away from war, (we fight them over there so we don´t fight them over here) and have not experienced the horrors of destruction and death all around, we are sympathetic to the stories as Mark is saying, but have no real understanding of WAR actually means.
11:49:27 From Kathryn Alexander, MA to Everyone:
I think that has been a long held belief. Certainly the trade issues that came out of Ukraine should carry that issue. Ego, and the hardness of belief is a new wrinkle
11:49:31 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:
but have no real understanding of WAR actually means
11:49:41 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Here's a wonderful local resource for sharing great documentaries: Meaningful Movies.org. Online and local live groups! Learn, grow, and act together in community! Join us 😍
11:55:41 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
My theory is that Helpfulness brings people into focus. And the world I am working for is the Age of Helpfulness.
11:56:41 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Mark, your contribution has been very valuable. Thank you for coming and speaking to us.
11:56:41 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
I get to go to a PeaceMakers Circle meeting at the hour also. CU manana. 🙂
11:56:42 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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Welcome to Humanity Rising
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11:56:44 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
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‘We don't address their brains; we address their hearts.’ ~ Mandela
11:56:47 From Shauna Muir to Host and Panelists:
Thank You Mark for your work inPeacemaking
11:56:47 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Sovereign State Banks in every US State, collateralized with $3 Billion, is one of the fastest paths to peace. WE THE PEOPLE must reclaim all the stolen wealth to PREVENT the insanity of immoral military spending. CONTROL OUR OWN MONEY! PREVENT WAR, THEN ALWAYS ENGAGE IN RECONCILIATION! THANK YOU!
11:56:51 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
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11:58:06 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
YES, KIM that works wonders.
11:58:48 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
yes the old patriarchal win/lose John drives the emotions
11:58:58 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
How that would happen, Kim, should be supported.
12:00:21 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:
ALWAYS Love… focusing on what WE want! 🙂
12:02:53 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
It would seem that by promoting Prosperity instead of “just” Peace would be a better way to help populations to understand the rational for avoiding conflict.
12:03:52 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:
What about promoting human survival on the planet as a motivating force? So much long-term harm is being done and so much worse is a trigger away
12:03:56 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Prosperity can be an incentive to end conflict.
12:04:54 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:
Thanks for a great question. Quick answer: ) WA state unleash 2nd National Mortgage Settlement 2) reclaim at least $150 Billion offshore 3) Create 50 sovereign state banks run like credit unions 4) Prosecute all banking criminals! IMAGINE THIS REALITY! and then check out NORTH DAKOTA TWO STATE BANKS TO THE TUNE OF BILLIONS!
12:05:41 From Hyacinth Oesterlin to Everyone:
IF WE WANT PEACE WE CAN MAKE PEACE!!!
12:07:07 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Amy, I like that idea. Seeing the before and after the war in the Ukraine… seeing the happy faces of the people who have been killed through this governMENTAL savagery COULD make a difference.
12:07:17 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
What about the damage to the earth, the waters, the environment during these conflicts. Is there a possibility to raise the awareness of the significance of the damage that makes the land uninhabitable for animals and people. Raise consciousness of "place" as a significant part of sustaining life.
12:08:18 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Rita, yes, your idea of the changes to place and mine of the people - that would make a powerful movie.
12:08:22 From Amy Blumenshine to Everyone:
All kinds of toxins including depleted uranium, unexploded ordnances throughout the grain belt.
12:08:43 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
I spent 7 straight hour with Linda Tellington-Jones a few weeks ago. She spoke very highly of you Jim. Horses need stroking and calming and healing, just like countries.
12:08:50 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
building relationships through understanding the 'other'
12:09:18 From Jan Krick to Host and Panelists:
Thank you, Rita, for your ideas!
12:09:45 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Chris Hedges mentioned yesterday the driving force of "the culture of self." What if we nurture the "culture of place."
12:12:35 From Jan Krick to Everyone:
Rita, I love your perspective.
12:12:46 From Jan Krick to Everyone:
Jim, this is a great story.
12:13:11 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Wow!!! what a great story!
12:13:25 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
Look up Gorbachev's THE SINATRA DOCTRINE, based on Sinatra's song "My Way", in which those Soviet territories could do their own thing. That is what Putin is as
12:14:28 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
you never cease to amaze me Jim!
12:14:34 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
This ‘Little Guy” is my hero!
12:14:36 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
against! I was working at the UN at this time when the caca hit the fan.
12:15:41 From Jan Krick to Everyone:
How do we do this again?
12:15:50 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Jim… you’re talking about what our Shannon calls the Magic of Ordinary Moments…. MOM
12:17:00 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
The impulse that gave rise to Jim suggesting the pilot speak is definitely attributable to MOM, yes Stan, I completely agree! I love MOM!
12:17:20 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Always listen to MOM!
12:22:44 From Clare Hedin to Everyone:
I have found that there can be positions that are held unconsciously adversarially. This makes it hard to actually step forward into a conversation of mutuality and discovery.
12:24:15 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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12:24:59 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
Putin said, with great dismay, in January 2016 "If it's Hilary, that means war!"
12:26:05 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Finally - the word LOVE! Thanks, Jodie.
12:26:38 From astridstahlberg to Everyone:
Your stories are given courage. I will keep saying ”Yes” when people ask me to ”show up” That keeps me growing and becoming me.
12:26:38 From Paul Hillery to Everyone:
Many people thought if a woman is president, what will happen during her time of the month? They're a lot who still think this way.
12:27:40 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Being Peace! Thank you all.
12:28:08 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Host and Panelists:
Stan, my apologies, I will not be in the AfterChat today. The covid is requiring me to rest. Best wishes for a great conversation!
12:28:28 From Jan Krick to Everyone:
Love your neighbor, and in the world, we are all neighbors.
12:28:29 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Why do we have the AfterChat? People need to talk to each other. Especially after hearing profound Speakers.
12:28:41 From Janice Hall to Everyone:
DEMOCRACY IS NOT A SPECTATOR SPORT!
12:28:45 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Yes, Shannon get well.
12:28:45 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Great profound speakers today!!!
12:28:48 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:
Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.
You can join the After Chat here:
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Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451
Passcode: 919541
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12:28:54 From Rita Marsh to Everyone:
Yes Team Humanity Rising and guests! Well done!
12:29:00 From Leo Jacoby to Everyone:
We might ask researchers at ::https://implicit.harvard.edu/implicit/aboutus.html:: to develop an IAT about attitudes toward Russians
12:29:04 From Shannon McArthur (she/her) to Everyone:
Thanks, Stan, looking forward…
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