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Humanity Rising Day 637 Chat Page   –   Tuesday February 21, 2023

Text of the Zoom Chat from Humanity Rising Day 637

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11:02:08 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Bless you all, and all you do… Loving greetings from the traditional lands of the Secwepemc now known as Kamloops BC Canada. Welcome to Humanity Rising!

11:07:22 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Today we have a serious program as Day 637 of Humanity Rising titled Echoes of the Holocaust (part 1)

11:08:16 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Breathe in peace; breathe out love…

11:12:46 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   Hello from the Credit River Watershed, home of the Mississaugas, Huron-Wendat, Neutrals and Haudenosaunee Confederacy.

11:16:50 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Thank you for your immense courage for truth telling.  It's true, that words fail to describe this atrocity.  It's the deep background story of (now) four generations of my family.

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11:24:12 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

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               Welcome to Humanity Rising

               With Love...          

               Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.          

              You can join the After Chat here:       

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      We’ll post this notice several times…

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11:25:41 From Andrew Cameron Bailey to Everyone:

   Warm greetings from the foothills of the Colorado Rockies where the temperature is about to drop 60 degrees - from +53 today to -7 tomorrow.

11:31:11 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Yes, perfect!

11:36:35 From Janice Hall to Everyone:

   what a handsome couple... your mom is absolutely beautiful!

11:37:15 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:

   tears & chills!

11:37:53 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you for enduring, speaking through the emotion so we can learn the story of your parents. Bless you, and them, always and forever.

11:44:07 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:

   A powerful presentation.

11:47:27 From Janice Hall to Everyone:

   I grew up in Bergen county... New Milford and the Ramsey. I know Westwood very well

11:47:42 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   Its also a good idea to mention that the prison camps, and the genocide of jewish people, was fashioned after the Residential School system designed by the Crown and Church

11:48:24 From Eve Jacobs to Host and Panelists:

   Yes , I feel badly I missed the beginning. I am also a first generation American and my  grandfather was also a survivor of Buchenwald concentration  camp and heard a number of stories. HIAS the resettlement  organization is still active in Jewish Communities  all over the US and still as the speaker stated helps immigrants that come to the US from all over the world!

11:49:07 From Eve Jacobs to Host and Panelists:

   Maze Tov to the speaker!!

11:49:17 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   The colonial genocide of Indigenous Nations was the foundation of concentration camps, that was fueled by the Germans

11:49:36 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you, Kevin. It’s appalling.

11:50:10 From Eve Jacobs to Host and Panelists:

   Thats a whole another awful conversation about the genocide of the white man of the indigenous people of our country

11:52:40 From Eve Jacobs to Host and Panelists:

   want to quickly hear of the milk can please  her the story

11:53:33 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   As a descendant of Dutch and British Grandmothers, migrants after WW2, I would like to ask the difference , as felt by Jewish people, between the terms ‘Holocaust’ and ‘Genocide’?

11:55:01 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Your parents Rest In Peace now; thank you for speaking to us today. May your heart rest easy, having completed this mission. Blessings…

11:55:08 From Janice Hall to Everyone:

   Nina Meyerhof founded One Humanity Institute after visiting Auschwitz and witnessing her grandmother listed as being murdered the day Nina was born

11:55:21 From Eve Jacobs to Host and Panelists:

   can we here the milk can story

11:56:03 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   I’ve seen many times that people using the word Holocaust, as a reference for current slow moving atrocities, that then starts a huge argument ….stifling discussion; why is that so?

11:56:09 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:

   Thank you, Peppy, for sharing the story of your extraordinary family.

11:56:12 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   With Love...          

               Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.          

              You can join the After Chat here:       

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               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

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11:56:40 From Janice Hall to Everyone:

   The one Humanity Institute race in Oswiecim Poland next to Aucswitz.

   I visited there this past September. it was beyond even the most horrible that I had imagined.  I don't recommend anyone go... and yet everyone must.

11:57:11 From Monica Plant to Host and Panelists:

   That was such a moving presentation, Peppy. Bless you for your service in sharing the story of your parents and family.

11:58:10 From Janice Hall to Everyone:

   yes Peppy a story of horror ...yet great faith and courage.. thank you for sharing

11:58:29 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   What an extraordinary family!  Your stories and pictures will live on inside me, for sure. Thank you for writing your book and creating your film.  The US must include your great works in our school curriculum.  No words can express my gratitude for your courage and deep humanity.  Thank you!  FOREVER. Thank you!

11:59:33 From Margaret Dessau to Host and Panelists:

   Link to Raritan valley colleges movie

12:00:40 From Eve Jacobs to Host and Panelists:

   Thank-you so much peppy for sharing your story and making your history known and reminding us all how important it is to understand and know history so that it doesn’t repeat itself. There are those today that are Holocaust deniers string that it never occurred and was made up. All the survivors are dying off so it’s so important to educate  the world population about what transpired so  it perhaps will never happen again (but it can unfortunately).

12:02:20 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   If you wish to share your comments with everyone watching set the “To” to “Everyone”

12:04:08 From Peppy Margolis to Everyone:

   Thank you for your invitation to tell my parent's story because they could not speak so I am their voice.  Thank you for listening and caring. If there is time after this presentation, I can tell you the story about the milk can. Some one asked about the use of Genocide which is the umbrella term that includes Holocaust.

12:04:25 From Eve Jacobs to Host and Panelists:

   so happy to see it

12:06:12 From Jim Garrison to Everyone:

   Thank you for your willingness to share your story. Very powerful.

12:06:20 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   ^^^^^ the response from using the words Holocaust and Genocide interchangeably does NOT illicit the same response from within the Jewish community; in my experience.

12:15:52 From Eve Jacobs to Host and Panelists:

   Ronnie, What a magnificent film. I need to go to another meeting but I am a first generation survivor also. G-d bless you and your family and the legacy and history of your family. G-d bless

12:16:10 From Marc Silverman to Host and Panelists:

   Thank You, Thank You, Thank You

12:16:14 From Davidson - KENYA to Everyone:

   Awesome. Love connecting with human history as this informs where we have come from and guards us from drifting into such a regrettable past.

12:17:00 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Oh. Thank you for sharing. His life’s purpose is clear, and important. Sometimes our mothers push us, and we must let us be pushed. We learn from our parents; your parents… and we live on to teach the children so the lessons are learned by future generations.

12:17:30 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   This is the second time seeing this SAADD and powerful film. Let us all join together in Loving memory and bring Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace. We get to join together and bring all the Imaginal cells surrounding us and create the new butterfly like society, bringing beauty and harmony for all our Relations. 🙂 Thank You God

12:17:30 From Davidson - KENYA to Everyone:

   I am a member of the International Network of Museums for Peace and the Peace Palace domiciled in the Hague. Would love sharing the link to this video clip with my peace-lovers network.

12:17:53 From elle stockton to Everyone:

   please keep sharing

12:18:14 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   This isolation of the word Holocaust as a jewish thing, is a sad lack of respect to the dead, considering genocides continue

12:18:36 From Ruth Buzi to Everyone:

   As a child of holocaust survivors I was moved by the stories and appreciate the program today.

12:18:46 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   My God, THANK YOU for your father!  Your love and devotion to your father AND to be his voice - is indeed precious and sacred.  YES, in honor of you, your father, and your whole family - I will pass this on and keep it alive.  OUR humanity depends on knowing this story AND preventing it from ever happening again.

12:18:47 From Jane Norton to Everyone:

   this is one of the most moving Humanity Rising sessions ever. Thank you both for your courageous work.

12:18:53 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:

   Words fail, but I must at least say thank you for sharing the film and your family's horrific and courageous story.

12:18:57 From Marc Silverman to Host and Panelists:

   Most frightening, as a world, culture, many have learned so little

12:18:58 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:

   I am very emotional and gratefulI you have screened this short film.  I showed Schindler’s List” to 8th grade students after reading the “Diary of Ann Frank”.  Ronnie Dunetz this film was a powerful testament for global peace.

12:19:17 From Marc Silverman to Host and Panelists:

   we continue to create many autocratic cultures

12:19:31 From Marc Silverman to Host and Panelists:

   which creates the soil for this kind of horror

12:19:46 From Marc Silverman to Host and Panelists:

   today anti-semitism, tomorrow racism

12:20:34 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Please set the “To” to “Everyone” so the others watching can see your comments.

12:20:38 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   The design of the holocaust was a gift from the west

12:21:18 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   6 million jews and 60+million Indigenous people

12:21:47 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   No, Kevin. It was a gift of a Pope from long ago, and the sickness that prevailed in the church at that time.

12:22:48 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   NEVER call this horrific collective atrocity a "gift"

12:24:38 From Davidson - KENYA to Everyone:

   The Jewish people are God's chosen ones as stated in the Scriptures. Their suffering birthed the United Nations in 1948. Yes, we can rightly call that a "gift" to the Nations.

12:25:05 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Educate yourself more deeply please!

12:25:35 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   The reality is that the residential schools had many decades of genocide prior to the Jewish Holocaust; which was designed AFTER the relative success of what was happening in North America.

12:26:38 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:

   There is plenty of blame to go around over our combined history, East, West, North and South.   We must learn from history!  We must stop wars and learn to negotiate for peace and respect all religions and cultures globally.  We must all work to abolish nuke weapons and weapons of mass extinction.  It is our only hope for human survival.

12:29:31 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   The simple fact that they keep exposing indigenous youth gravesites, over 10,000+ so far, proves that the success of the churches attempt to hide the truth of where genocide spawned from

12:29:42 From Jøran Solberg to Everyone:

   🐯

12:30:05 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Check out ULF's Trauma dharma. He’s left Child Soldiers of the Congo and Rwandan genocide survivors dancing and singing for the first time since their traumas. Here’s a simple and effective stress/trauma release. Outstanding soul like you...

   

    The Intersection of Trauma, Compassion and Value Economics, https:/youtu.be/_gx9ei2QrUM, Ulf Sandstrom, Chip Williams, Ann Helmke, David Pinto, Day 195 of Humanity Rising produced by the Peace Lab.

12:30:08 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   that is so important -- less concerned about apologies and more concerned about helping.  That is the point upon which humanity rises.  Thank you.

12:30:42 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Thank you for your deep humanitarian mission for helping traumatized survivors!  Your work is leading the way for ALL of us, in this dark night of our collective soul.

12:30:46 From Mary Thorp_WV to Everyone:

   Stan, a fellow “helper” in Ronnie’s speaking. A miracle in the making.

12:32:24 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   I would be interested to hear, from the presenters, the difference between Holocaust and Genocide.

12:32:42 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:

   In memory of Burt Bacharach’s recent death, this song says it all:  ::https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIccm6CpLqY::

12:33:05 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   That is why you needed the milk.

12:33:11 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   In the opinions of the presenters, is their reaction to these terms effect them differently, when used outside of the WW2 narrative

12:33:27 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Kevin, the Holocaust was one genocide. It’s over. Genocide continues.

12:33:57 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Thank you, Mary… I believe that Helpfulness is an important factor in bringing peace to the planet. Wherever people are neglected and suffering, others need to step in and be helpful.

12:34:02 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   What an amazing miracle!  The drive to exist, marry, have children, and claim precious life.  What a miracle that  your mother conceived YOU!!!  You are a miracle.  OUR miracle.  Thank you - beyond the telling.

12:34:29 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   ^^^^^shannon, so after ww2 the term holocaust is no longer a usable term then?

12:35:32 From Douglas Jennette to Everyone:

   Friends, please have some respect- Listen!

12:35:34 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:

   On Passover the haggadah says "No Jew shall rest until all slaves are free! That means now when we have more slaves than ever! Please join me to free the slaves today. It is hypocritical to celebrate Passover without doing something now. I am grateful my grandfather survived and escaped Russia before the Holocaust. Otherwise I wouldn't be here. Yes better to be in appreciation and gratitude is the best revenge! Please help me organize and present a program here!

12:36:13 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   HEY, WE ARE THE LUCKY ONES!  THANK GOD AND GODDESS FOR BOTH PRESENTERS TODAY!

12:36:20 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   The term is used to remember the horror of that time, and to honour the stories that you hear here today, and all others.  Yes, Douglas, thank you. I hear these stories in my ears and in my heart.

12:37:24 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   Some of us are gathering in a Zoom meeting for conversation after this session.          

              You can join the After Chat here:       

               ::::::::::https://us02web.zoom.us/j/81045613451?pwd=S1JxSE9WNzJQV2JKSXhhaFZ3Wng1UT09::::::::::   

               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

                            ..oOo..

12:37:29 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   ^^^^is that to suggest the term holocaust is set in that time of history Shannon, and not to be referenced for any other examples of atrocity?

12:37:46 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   YES! YES! YES!

12:37:58 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   Thank you both so much.

12:38:07 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Thanks for your life’s work for a thriving life for all to survive. Together in collaboration, coagulation, and dialogue, we get to prompt the world back into thriving for ALL our relations. See how we can do it even faster with the PeaceMaker MasterMind Circles ~ to be all you can be to bring Peace IN Everything, Everything WITH Peace:  ::https://noblegoldman.com/fun/intentional-change-network/kurtkrueger::

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   ‘We don't address their brains; we address their hearts.’ ~ Mandela

12:38:07 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:

   We have heard your voices loud and clear for love, compassion and courage. Thanks you!

12:38:37 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   To receive a copy of this chat, send me your email address.

12:38:40 From Carol Sue Engleman to Everyone:

   married to a man whose father was a survivor of a camp and survived by cutting ogg his feelings and passed it on to his kids!

12:38:59 From Charry Stover to Everyone:

   There is such deep wisdom in Judaism and from the Jewish people.

12:39:10 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Please come to the afterchat and schmooze

12:40:24 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   I propose that the untouchable term ‘holocaust’ , being something that immediately brings consternation, actually allows ongoing atrocities to continue

12:40:57 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   Isolating the term holocaust allows them to continue

12:42:35 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   Here is a rapid Super Concentration and STRESS release practice for you. See why and how it works in just 15 minutes. PeaceMaker Meditation. ::https://youtu.be/vv1VxDv80wo:: Peace In Everything, Everything With Peace will reverberate throughout your sleep and day (use it in your HOME language)… making it the focus and bringing more peace to you and all our Relations.   

   Groups are forming together or through teleconference to bring more Peace to our home planet.  Together in the company of the seekers of Truth, we fly more easily ~ like the two wings of a bird…    

   You know that when we take some responsibility for being the Peace where we are, we are then models for others to follow ~ the ripples begin with us!

12:42:50 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Let’s talk about it in the AfterChat, Kevin.

12:42:51 From Kathleen McTeigue to Everyone:

   God bless you, Peppy, for all the pain you've endured. May you find peace and healing.

12:43:32 From Kurt Krueger, PeaceMakers Circles/Network to Everyone:

   AND creating a NEW STORY!

12:43:35 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   God bless you, Peppy, for the courage to speak, and the love that endures within you, and through you.

12:44:02 From Jean Stevens to Everyone:

   Yes!  One by one we can make a difference for loving kindness on our planet!  Thank you for this powerful presentation and to Humanity Rising for its great humanitarian work.

12:44:11 From Kim Kerrigan to Everyone:

   Extraordinary!  All the traumatic memories arising in our elders. Yes, we must navigate the deep pain together.  Thank you again and again and again. To bear witness to your courage.  We must open hearts and listen, heal, and serve.  THANK YOU BOTH!

12:44:12 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you for changing the world in a good way…

12:44:42 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   One way to help peace, is to prevent suffering wherever it happens. Being helpful to those in need is a great step towards letting the human family recognize each other.

12:44:48 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   Shannon, I was hoping to have the presenters identify these 2 terms in a way that non-jews might better understand

12:44:48 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you, Stan, for changing it in your way — another Jew who is making a difference in our world.

12:45:03 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Kevin, perhaps they’ll come...

12:45:15 From Stan Pokras to Everyone:

   You can join the After Chat here:       

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               Meeting ID: 8 10 4561 3451    

               Passcode: 919541       

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12:45:30 From Kevin he/him Canada to Everyone:

   ^^^^^thanks for ensuring they can’t now.

12:45:37 From Shannon McArthur to Everyone:

   Thank you so much, Jim!

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